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Lee, you said, "Another example: If there's an arc, it self-extinguishes on
AC at the next zero-crossing. On DC, the arc will *continue* until some
external device interrupts the flow of current." Remember if there is any
plasma in the arc the AC zero crossing will not exist long enough to break
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> the flames, not the ideas that are a problem, not so?
Some places have lively, animated, intelligent discussions about politics.
(I hear that's the way it goes
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
I can see that my original statement was confusing. What I meant was that
for the same conductor and same I^2R loss, DC can deliver nearly 40% more
power because the DC line can operate at the PEAK voltage rating of the
line, whereas the AC line only delivers that
> > needed. Pipelines do the same thing for oil but are an ultimate
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"It is just not feasible to meet clean air requirements with just
battery electrics."
- this is news to me. Care to elaborate?
I always thought that between BEV and plug-in HEV we would be in good
shape.
Just the other day I looked at the MPG display of my Prius (which is not
even plug-in) and saw
There are a number of you that think that this is a technology food fight. It's
not. Any food fight is one way, and fortunately you're just shouting into your
own echo chamber.
That's a good thing, because despite the ignorance being espoused (much like I
hear from the climate change deniers),
Mark,
Are the laws of Physics different in California?
It is simply be design and following science that tells us that
Hydrogen powered cars will never be cost-effective.
Of course, a state can set up a grande grant-scheme and create
an artificially unbalanced market that will collapse as soon as
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Sorry, finger slipped before I was done.
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Sounds like a very old analysis.
Toyota will be selling their cars in California, which should be your first
clue. BEV have had (and still do) their own challenges, too. But it's just not
productive to focus on those as have all the "nega
Sounds like a very old analysis.
Toyota will be selling their cars in California, which should be your first
clue. BEV have had (and still do) their own challenges, too. But it's just not
productive to focus on those as have all the "negative Nellies" for decades.
I've heard over 30 years of "c
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% while I was searching, I came across several craigslist housing listings
touting how EV friendly they were. Several of these listings were ended by
the lister (assume it was rented), so below is only the ones that were
viable at the time of the searches.
Clearly, the EV movement has matured to
If you look at the "sliced open" Toyota FCV you will see two
Hydrogen tanks and in between a largish (slightly larger than the Prius'
hybrid) battery pack. So, one tank under the trunk and one under the
rear seat. The two front seats were directly over the fuel cell and the
front
of the vehicle had
AC Propulsion had a Power Point slide where they compared the efficiency
of various "fuels". Their standard was an EV with the equivalent of 50
MPG. A similar vehicle, powered by hydrogen produced from reformatted
natural gas and fed into a fuel cell, was the equivalent of 30 mpg while
hydrog
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In the early 1990's when I first got outlets put in at a work-site
parking spot in the middle of the hp Cupertino, CA parking lot for my EV
charging use, there was no painting or signage. I placed a cone with a
sign Electric car only . But it was moved and or just plain ignored
(these were the ear
And that is also why I am so happy about the success of another EV,
the e-Bike. You do not always need 3,000 pounds of dead weight
around you to go for an errand or to bring your laptop to work.
Cor van de Water
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> [the main] reason we have AC transmission
> is due the difficulties sending DC over long distances.
But for very long distances, high voltage DC now wins. At very long
distances AC transmission is inefficient due to capacitance (and much
shorter when underground or underwater). AC also has ad
e we do. They cannot use natural
>>> gas plants to make-up solar/wind shortages. Where we view "storage" as a
>>> short-term (max 12 hour overnight) need, they view storage as a long-term
>>> requirement and not just for backup electricity, but for weeks or mo
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>> Just some thoughts.
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hort-term (max 12 hour overnight) need, they view storage as a long-term
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"switching to EV's for commuting does nothing to solve congestion..."
Rick Woodbury's Tango EV does. See www.commutercars.com
The Tango is a 4-wheel car that's only 3 feet wide and 8 feet long. It's
the same size as a motorcycle. Four of them can park in the same parking
place that holds just
to be on the receiving end of such assistance.
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y not be a problem, while the OSC has from
today onward to approach a solution.
The people with whom I have been in contact have been quite supportive and it's
a good feeling to be on the receiving end of such assistance.
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Hey don't say that too load !
Wayne should make a pretty decent profit on this one.
Dennis
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On 25 Jun 2014 at 12:17, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
> I am interested in other peoples politics, but not getting hollered at.
> It is the flames, not the ideas that are a problem, not so?
Some places have lively, animated, intelligent discussions about politics.
(I hear that's the way it goes
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And what is the problem with a few stage hands rolling this Model T vehicle on
and off stage?
Why does it need to be self- propelling?
Matthew Parkhouse, RN
hobomatt@ aol.com
> On 25 Jun 2557 BE, at 10:28, Alan Brinkman via EV wrote:
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> Wayne,
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> How about a 1927 Ford Track T rat rod? Ele
Wayne,
How about a 1927 Ford Track T rat rod? Electric even!
eBay item number: 181442550341
I saw this yesterday on E-bay, and some other interesting electric vehicles as
well. I have no financial interest in this vehicle.
Alan
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>> Generally, Hydrogen for transportation (no infrastructure) makes
>> little sense compared to EV’s (everyone has an outlet in their
>> garage). The business model for hydrogen cars is very weak (though it
>> is needed for trucks and road warriors).
> I'm not sure what you mean by "needed for tr
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> Somebody has to pay for road repairs.
> Pipelines are a different issue.
Rather than spending $billons of dollars on a pipeline monument to the
past, it is better to make that same investment into electrical
transmission lines for now and the future instead.
The only thing holding back a near i
"...that switching to EV's for commuting does nothing to solve
congestion..."
Me, too. But at least when stuck in a jam, EV's aren't belching out
pollution :)
Peri
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> About the only solution I can think of [wont] fly politically...
> charge a ... license renewal fee based on the weight of the vehicle.
Yes, but some people use the roads a lot more than others. It is better
if we balance cost, for use.
Most of us don't like the VMT (vehicle miles traveled) an
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I repeat - no politics, please. (That's what this is really about.)
It's off topic, too.
The original post in this thread was provocative - I might even say
trollish. Don't take the bait.
Thanks,
David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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>> Kennedy Center of preforming arts in DC. They want it for a play they will
>> be putting on this summer. LOLOLOL No range, no speed, just move it on &
>> off the stage ..guess whos paying for this?? can you say Tax
>> pay
Folks, a couple of threads here are edging into politics. There be dragons!
Let's not get into flame wars. Please check your political views at the
door and stick to discussing EVs here.
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Our definitions of obsolete must differ. In my book, neither are obsolete.
Far from being obsolete in 1984, phono cartridges are still not obsolete, have
been showing double digit growth, and are part of the most high end sound
systems. I'm not aware of any upcoming technology to replace them,
say Tax payers..what a country
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To continue on the point I was making about rail infrastructure being
hopelessly lost in the 19th century, here is an interesting read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/us/chicago-train-congestion-slows-whole-country.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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> road wear is not the only social negative caused by vehicles.
> ... noise and air pollution are pretty close to the top.
> EVs have a positive impact on these factors.
Here's how we say it on this web page:
http://aprs.org/EV-and-gas-taxes.html
"EV's are getting free ride on the highways, but a
It's always a tough call to figure out how government spends it's money.
Every department would LOVE to have an infinite budget.
I guess I've just grown unbelievably cynical about the government constantly
crying they don't enough money then seeing first hand they waste
it instead of trying
On 25 Jun 2014 at 5:44, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> getting stuck for another decade with a Mustang that is still, at its
> core, the same vehicle it's been for the past 50 years just
> seems.backwards.
Well said. It's about time someone realized that this is where the
automobile industry is stuc
'Nissan Leaf EV versus Dodge Ram 1500 Eco-ice truck'
% Writer's views are not-winning TX a Tesla Gigaplant %
http://www.dallasvoice.com/butch-vs-femme-5-10174678.html
Butch vs. Femme
20 Jun 2014 by CASEY WILLIAMS
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MASCULIN,
"I still love you Ford, and you almost had me ..."
http://gas2.org/2014/06/20/op-ed-why-i-now-want-a-tesla-instead-of-the-2015-mustang/
Op-Ed: Why I Now Want A Tesla Instead Of The 2015 Mustang
by Christopher DeMorro [2014/06/20]
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Amazing thing is that even though your fuel tax is so low you still have so
may EV's historically, done more for the development of EV's than any other
country. It must be a great place to live in.
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