Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread paul dove via EV
need to be > compressed? A cell should only expand when it's damaged. > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please disc

Re: [EVDL] Toronto.ca Volt pih can't charge on street> waits on bylaws-rewrite (no garage= no plug-in)

2016-09-03 Thread Ron Porter via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread paul dove via EV
> Lithium stack to the frame of the lift, you are aware that the Leaf > cells (and probably other Li cells as well) must remain under > compression or risk bursting the cell pouches open, inside the modules? I don't believe that at all what proof do you have the cells need to be compressed? A

Re: [EVDL] NiCd (BB600): Golf Cart& Forklift PbSO4 battery alternatives

2016-09-03 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
Hi Willie and All, Be careful buying nicads strange to you as many, most have very low power, amp output. Check their model specs first as only high output ones are useful for us. Jerry Dycus On Sat,

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Paul, Every time the cell is at the top of charge, it will expand. Don't compress and you will likely burst it in short order. I have taken apart packs that were used *with* the Leaf BMS so charging has always kept them under 4.115V max but when I remove the nuts that hold a stack in compression,

Re: [EVDL] NiCd (BB600): Golf Cart& Forklift PbSO4 battery alternatives

2016-09-03 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 09/03/2016 01:25 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: IMO, Lee's idea of switching to NiCd is best ...>bottom line (jumping to the end of my long internet searches) ... look at

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread Matthew Quitter via EV
A > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag raci

[EVDL] NiCd (BB600): Golf Cart& Forklift PbSO4 battery alternatives

2016-09-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Sep 03 11:25:13 PDT 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >bottom it references to a yahoo group for BB600 >https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BB600/info >which is a slow load, and the number of posts means to me, that this group >is dormant (few are active on it. A shame as they may have know

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
John, One of the US Electricar owners just pulled his BB-600 out of his truck since several had died and excess electrolyte was eating the alu box. He has appropriately replaced them with a Leaf pack. I will shoot him an email with your question to see if he wants to sell/ship to you,

[EVDL] NiCd (BB600): Golf Cart& Forklift PbSO4 battery alternatives

2016-09-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV
IMO, Lee's idea of switching to NiCd is best ...>bottom line (jumping to the end of my long internet searches) ... look at http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marathon-Flooded-Plate-NiCad-NiCd-batteries-11AC20-11Ah-aircraft-radio-medical-/281788934148?hash=item419bede804:g:5TwAAOSw1vlUt4~S (Lurkers should

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread via EV
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2016, at 11:43 AM, jerry freedomev via EV wrote: > > Hi John and All, >If you can't find them closer I can ship them and iirc you > have some cool stuff to trade I can't get here. >They need to go

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread Matt Parkhouse via EV
I recently replaced a set of 4 12 volt deep cycle lead-acid batteries (280lbs) with a set of lithium ion batteries. (80 lbs). They are new and pulled from sets of Chevy Volt batteries. Got them from a fellow on eBay. The parts, batteries, BMS and cables ran about $1600 for everything. The

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Sep 03 09:40:10 PDT 2016 leeah...@earthlink.net said: >John Lussmyer via EV wrote: >> The cheapest 36V forklift battery I've found is a refurb, 1yr warranty, >> 510AH for $2000. >> That is FAR more battery than I really need. > >Ouch. I've seen complete working pallet-jacks with battery go

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Sep 03 09:14:30 PDT 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said: > They still pop up occasionally on the >surplus market, as aircraft are still using them. They usually go for >low prices, because people are worried about disposal fees for something >with cadmium in it. So, if anyone knows where I can get

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread Lee Hart via EV
jerry freedomev via EV wrote: > Sounds like a job for bb600 nicads... John Lussmyer wrote: > So, I assume you have some to sell? jerry freedomev via EV wrote: I do have some , 96vdc worth but wasn't thinking of selling them... Since they last forever, make big amps and don't die from sitting,

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Sep 03 08:54:20 PDT 2016 leeah...@earthlink.net said: >John Lussmyer via EV wrote: >> I have a couple of old electric forklifts that I use occaisionally in my >> shop. >> One is a little walk behind unit that uses 2, 6V golf cart batteres. >> The other is a full size forklift that has a

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
Hi John and All, I do have some , 96vdc worth but wasn't thinking of selling them i got from Bob Rice in his big buy. Since they last forever , make big amps and don't die from sitting for a mower project they would be good. Plus shipping to Cal from Florida is rather high. There were

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sat Sep 03 03:37:06 PDT 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Hi Cor, John and All, >Sounds like a job for bb600 nicads that last neat forever, can handle the >current easily. And lots of them lying around and no expensive bms, charger >required. So, I assume you have some to sell? I haven't seen

Re: [EVDL] Alternatives for Golf Cart and Forklift batteries

2016-09-03 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
Hi Cor, John and All, Sounds like a job for bb600 nicads that last neat forever, can handle the current easily. And lots of them lying around and no expensive bms, charger required. Jerry On Sat,

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20160903

2016-09-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV
discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-EV-newswire-posts-for-20160903-tp4683601.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listi

[EVDL] EVLN: ICON's Jonathan Ward's DIY '49 Mercury dual Electric-motor EV conversion

2016-09-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-ICON-s-Jonathan-Ward-s-DIY-Electric-49-Mercury-dual-e-motor-conversion-td4683597.html ] http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/videos/a30585/icons-jonathan-ward-is-building-an-all-electric-49-mercury/ ICON 4x4's

[EVDL] Toronto.ca Volt pih can't charge on street> waits on bylaws-rewrite (no garage= no plug-in)

2016-09-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'He’s been fined about $300, and worried the cord is a tripping hazard' http://www.canadianautoworld.ca/industry-news/toronto-electric-car-owner-stuck-trying-to-charge-car-on-the-street Toronto electric car owner stuck trying to charge car on the street September 1, 2016 Robin Levinson

[EVDL] Buy UL approved j1772 EVSE: Forget obsolete AVCON EVSE

2016-09-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/WTB-Semi-obsolete-AVCON-charging-station-tp4683591.html Keith, IMO do not bother with converting an AVCON to j1772. Why after you have modified it, it is no longer UL approved so if there is a fire, the insurer will opt to not pay

Re: [EVDL] WTB: Semi-obsolete AVCON charging station

2016-09-03 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Check out my webpage on how to convert a DS-50, it might be helpful http://tucsonev.com/EVIDS50.html Rush Dougherty www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Keith Richtman via EV > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 8:11 PM > To: