Re: [EVDL] EV-spirits: Use a Halloween Costume for the EV-cause

2014-11-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote: > That's a no brainer. Get a Volt! First thing I suggested to him. It's out of his price range...he's looking for under $20K if possible -- thus, he's holding out (for now) for another year or so until a certain 2013 model year Honda somethi

Re: [EVDL] EV4sale: Walter Kern’s 1974 Saab Sonett III EV r:30/50mi ts:65+mph

2014-11-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 5, 2014, at 6:02 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > He converted this 1974 Saab Sonett III to run on > electric power all the way back when it was new. It's now for sale on eBay [ > http://www.ebay.com/itm/271654497901 Looks like a sweet ride. It also looks like it's not yet been bid on. Only a

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Featherlight-weight Visio.M EV r:100mi p:13.5kWh le$$-than-ice

2014-11-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:57 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The overall design should result in an EV that's actually less expensive > than a comparable gas car This is promising, of course...but it also must be pointed out that many of their claimed and very impressive innovations are completely agno

Re: [EVDL] Sad news about Dennis Miles

2014-11-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Sorry to hear. I've got some replies from him squirreled away that I'll be referring to once the conversion gets under way b& On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:23 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > Posting for Andrew Miles, son of our longtime friend Dennis Miles: > > It is with a heavy heart that

Re: [EVDL] EV-spirits: Use a Halloween Costume for the EV-cause

2014-11-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Nov 1, 2014, at 3:54 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > This is my observation about countering anti-EV rhetoric. If you find > things are different where you are, I'd like to hear about it! I don't seem to run into a lot of anti-EV rhetoric outside of the types of Internet trolls who'

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What Click-n-Clack know about regen (?)

2014-10-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:36 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > You basically get regen "sort-of free" with AC induction motor controllers > and with some sepex controllers. However, with a series motor, regen is > almost never included in the controller by default. In fact it's usually >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Bad Tesla-S brakes>ploughed through windows, tables& hit wall.cn

2014-10-24 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:11 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The report said there was a fault with the > brakes. While that _could_ be the case, as often as not it's the driver panicking, mashing his foot as hard as he can to stop the car...only he's mashing the accelerator rather than the brake...

Re: [EVDL] VW conversion motor needed

2014-10-23 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:32 PM, David Chapman via EV wrote: > I was wondering if anyone on the list had found a motor that is a good fit HP > and voltage wise (120v or so) for a bug? Would like to build something > freeway capable. VWs in general and Bugs (and Ghias) in particular make great EVs

Re: [EVDL] VW conversion addendum

2014-10-23 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:11 AM, David Chapman via EV wrote: > I should have added that I am looking at running a clutchless single speed > gearbox around 3:1 final drive. Dach. In that case, you're going to need an oversized motor to be able to handle either the torque demands of low-speed driv

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VW Is Auctioning-off their 1st E-Golf EV, ends 10/29

2014-10-19 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:02 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The auction is already live at: > Charitybuzz.com/vwegolf. They're not doing a good enough job at getting the word out about the auction; only ten beds as I type and the highest bid is $2k shy of MSRP. Especially considering the too-short l

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 1st Tesla Battery Swap Site Will Go Live In December 2014

2014-10-17 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:25 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > First Tesla Battery Swap Station Online Soon I gotta give Tesla props for the fantastic engineering feat they've pulled off with this one, but I just don't see it being practical. First, it only makes sense if it's a reasonably universal d

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: e-NV200 e-Van Converted into a Camper / B-class e-RV

2014-10-17 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:22 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > British Firm Turns Nissan e-NV200 Electric Van Into Cosy, Family-Friendly > Camper Van I wish them the best of luck, of course, but this strikes me as a classic case where the vehicle's 80-ish-mile range is an overwhelming obstacle. Almost

Re: [EVDL] Batteries that can be recharged to 70 percent in just 2 minutes

2014-10-16 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:49 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > As long as "EVs are ...a poor purchasing decision ..." the > only way we'll get significant numbers of ordinary folks to buy them is to > give them (the people, I mean) cash or other monetary incentives. This is true for most per

Re: [EVDL] Batteries that can be recharged to 70 percent in just 2 minutes

2014-10-15 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Ross wrote: > I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home. Need? Obviously not. Want? Who wouldn't? The question is what it'd cost. You can be sure Elon himself will have such a station in his own personal garage. If it "only" costs ten grand or s

Re: [EVDL] Batteries that can be recharged to 70 percent in just 2 minutes

2014-10-15 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Peter Gabrielsson via EV wrote: > As for cellphones the real limiter on how fast you can recharge tends to be > the connector, cables and power supply. Cars, too. 10 kWh / minute is 600 kilowatts, a most impressive power transfer rate. That's going to be a signifi

Re: [EVDL] Need Lithium batteries.

2014-10-10 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 10, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Roland via EV wrote: > If you just type in your search engine - hybridautocenter.com - you will get > to the main page. And, unless I'm mistraken, these would be the four-cell (2S2P) battery modules: http://hybridautocenter.com/HAC4/index.php?option=com_hikashop&c

Re: [EVDL] Need Lithium batteries.

2014-10-10 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 10, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Roland via EV wrote: > These are the batteries from the Hybrid Auto Center that I am going to use. > You can get them preassemble or unassembled in metal case modules that > contains four cells each connected two in series and then two in parallel for > a voltage

Re: [EVDL] OT: Alive, back-home after-surgery, and working on getting well ...

2014-10-10 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 10, 2014, at 1:35 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > After that EVangelizing, my throat was sore, but I was quite pleased I could > still 'do-it'. Wonderful news! Welcome back, and congratulations! We're quite lucky to live in a time with true miracle workers such as your surgical team b&

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: orangeev.com e-truck maker revs up

2014-10-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:04 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Kurt Neutgens worked 17 years at Ford Motor Co., including time as > engineering manager for Ford’s F-150 pickup truck, but his dream was to > someday develop an electric vehicle. > > So when Ford offered buyouts in 2006, he jumped at the oppo

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 5, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: > [T]hey could not support TLS on their computers and would not upgrade the > computer until there was "a strong need". The computer would be dealing with > billing for the power used to charge the vehicle!!! Then it won't be long bef

Re: [EVDL] Open source software to control donor ICE's CPUs

2014-10-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 5, 2014, at 10:39 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI via EV wrote: > I wondered then, why has not some one written generic code to control the > factory installed "cpu"s. The embedded systems in cars are varied and lacking in uniformity, and they're difficult to access and there's not a lot you'd no

Re: [EVDL] afk ...

2014-10-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
For my own selfish reasons, I hope your recovery is much faster than anticipated! b& On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:05 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > I had queued this message for 10/8 my last day, but it might be better to > post it now even though we all expect the best for the scheduled evdl ser

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair&drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
le (and pay the backlog) > to be higher than the value of the vehicle. > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info > Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 > &

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 2, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Collin Kidder via EV wrote: > It is very common. People buy cars with a salvage title and fix them. Exactly -- the car basically becomes a kit and / or homemade car...very much like the overwhelming majority of EVs owned by the people reading these words, save that

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 2, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > But, the whole point of transferring a title is to officially change > ownership. It it mighty hard to get any kind of damages from an original > owner unless one can show that there was fraud or misrepresentation. And, in this case, in whi

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 2, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Yes, but again, it depends on what the buyer signed. For example, with > software, the licensing agreements usually state that you do not own the > software but only have the right to use it which can be terminated under > certain condi

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 2, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Haritech (Gmail) via EV wrote: > Trouble is you didn't own the car when it was disabled. Then the sale was fraudulent, whether intentionally so or otherwise. The buyer thought he was buying a salvageable car, not a pile of scrap metal. But, considering that it's Tes

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 2, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Collin Kidder via EV wrote: > Heh, you realize who deactivated it in the first place, right? I mean, you > wouldn't have to "activate it" were it not for the fact that they turned it > off in the first place. Exactly. "Nice car you've got there that we've just sold y

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair &drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 1, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > As it looks now, they are only refusing to enable the car out of concern > for their brand image... Ironically enough, they may well be doing their brand image more harm with their current actions than if they were to work with the gu

Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 1, 2014, at 10:34 AM, David Kerzel via EV wrote: > When You connect to the grid then the power company has say in anything that > can energies the power lines and they may require only listed devices. ...and, let's not forget: linemen have one of the roughest jobs, and they're out there

Re: [EVDL] Solar for my EV

2014-09-30 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 30, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Finally finished my solar pier enough to take some pictures. Congratulations, and thanks! It's a shame you had to go through so much just to do the right thing...but now that you have, hopefully the trail you've blazed will soon be v

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair & drive! (video)

2014-09-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:34 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: >> Surely an independent Tesla dealer would just sell him >> the parts. > > Is there a law that requires that they do so? That's getting into questions of anti-trust and safety and environmental regulations and similar laws. They

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV.

2014-09-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 27, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > The laws are the same though. Yes and no. For example, not all jurisdictions have "three-foot" laws...and, even in those that _do,_ the laws might as well not exist. First, though the laws don't say anything about paint on the roadway

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV.

2014-09-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 27, 2014, at 11:00 AM, Michael Ross wrote: > ​A velo implies not carlike speeds.​ Presumably you are OK with that part. > If you want more than 20mph on electric only then you have exceeded the > federal limits. That was a big part of the problem. From a mechanical standpoint, there's

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV.

2014-09-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 27, 2014, at 8:39 AM, fred via EV wrote: > My first velomobile was equipped with a Stokemonkey. Some years ago, I gave some serious thought to getting a Quest velo and electrifying it. This article I just found has an excellent discussion of the practical and mechanical permutations and

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 27, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Have you looked at thermoelectric generators? That would be Peltier coolers run in reverse. Not just heat-generating reverse as opposed to cooling (which is a matter of reversing the positive and negative leads), but taking an existing

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:21 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > I would add that for an EV hobbyist, building a car like this would be one > heck of an undertaking. Maybe Lawrence can do it. I would love to see him > succeed. I know I couldn't. "Ditto." The solar challenge is always and f

Re: [EVDL] co-operation

2014-09-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:38 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > Another problem that's come to the fore in recent years is convincing the > car's body computers that they should let the accessories work without the > car's orginal engine running. Modern cars are miracles of engineering...but

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-26 Thread Ben Goren via EV
While it sure sounds like a fun project...by far the easiest way to have a solar-powered car is to leave the panels at home, on the roof of the garage or home. Unless I'm sorely mistraken, a significant fraction of the EVs owned by people reading these words are already solar-powered. Not to di

Re: [EVDL] co-operation

2014-09-26 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:15 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > There's a whole mini-industry that > serves EV hobbyists with components, batteries, and even a few kits (where > model-specific, mostly for now rather old cars and trucks). EVWest has such kits for the aircooled VW platform. Eng

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to ahigher mpge design

2014-09-16 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Yes -- exactly. Trying to find an alternative fuel filling station is a real pain...but the instant that somebody discovers that all they have to do is drag an extension cord from the 110 outlet in the garage to the car and the next morning they've got 20 "free" miles...well, almost nobody is g

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a higher mpge design (and fossil free)

2014-09-15 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Actually, in the big picture it is true - EVs consume fossil fuels. Even if > all the power to operate them comes from solar, please consider: > - energy to design and manufacture the vehicle, > - energy and materials to provide charging

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a higher mpge design (and fossil free)

2014-09-15 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Bill Woodcock via EV wrote: > I track our cars' power usage and our grid-intertie solar power generation, > and we generate, on an annual average, seventeen times as much as our two > cars use. So we're only using hydrocarbons in so far as everything's > fungible,

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a higher mpge design

2014-09-15 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 14, 2014, at 11:29 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > As I see it, we really have only two ways to go. Either we look for ways to > make EVs that match those massive ICEVs in utility, or we concentrate on > making great EVs that do other things really, really well. Actually, there

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles> converting buyers to a higher mpge design

2014-09-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 14, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > Any others? NetGain has a PIH kit with a pair of inline smallish motors that replace much of the driveshaft and act as a range extender. I don't think they're readily available except as fleet conversions, but give 'em a call and they

Re: [EVDL] 270.224 mph at Bonneville

2014-09-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 13, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > The A123 Systems 14 Ahr pouch cells are really unbelievable. Any chance these are readily available to the public? If so, where...? b& -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Menacing Copper-Theives> A 'Cut & Steal'EVSEScourge

2014-09-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 1, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Dennis Miles wrote: > That is why I suggest the steel wire be used only for the signal > wires which only have milliamperes of current so that is not a > problem. The power conductors made of stranded aluminum with copper > coating is actually lighter than pure copper,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Menacing Copper-Theives> A 'Cut & Steal'EVSEScourge

2014-09-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Sep 1, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Note that using steel cable and even getting somewhat close to the same > resistance would make the cable several times heavier and stiffer, so > much more difficult to handle. First, this isn't at all a problem limited to EV charging

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 29, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Jamie K via EV wrote: > I'll just quibble somewhat with your conclusion below about BEVs as a "second > car." Excellent point. Obviously, a car that's superior (and actually used) for 85% of driving should be considered the primary car -- even if such a car general

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 29, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I think one could argue that if you take a 100 mile trip once every 6 weeks, > an EV for everything else might work. Renting once every 6 weeks would be > reasonable, perhaps. For some, perhaps. It's definitely much less convenient tha

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 29, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Dennis Miles wrote: > 85% of driven trip miles were under 39 miles. Also, > 99% of driven trip miles were less than 100 miles , leaving only 1% of > trip miles being over 100 miles. Those statistics seem quite reasonable. What's _not_ reasonable is your interpreta

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 9:44 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > However, for a long as I've followed EVs (and that's over 40 years) the > battery has always been the main source of reliability problems. For me, too. That's why I'm looking to use the smallest pack I can get away with for my 19

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 29, 2014, at 10:27 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > IIRC, the average person thinks that he needs about 150 miles of EV range. > He doesn't really, but that's his perception. That depends on your definition of, "need." Sure, 90% of trips are under 150 miles -- but just think of

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: > Slight variant: I'm leasing a Smart ED and renting the battery. Considering how young and rapidly evolving the EV world is, leasing and / or renting makes more sense than it does in the gasoline world. At the end of the lease the new mode

Re: [EVDL] 241 mph on the salt....

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > Today, we did 241 mph with a 239 mph back-up run in the opposite direction. > (Official record will be ~240 mph.) Um...on a slightly selfish note...any chance you can provide enough information on your battery that somebody else can build

Re: [EVDL] 241 mph on the salt....

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > Today, we did 241 mph with a 239 mph back-up run in the opposite direction. > (Official record will be ~240 mph.) First, please imagine a rather lengthly expletive-filled rant about your sanity -- or, rather, of course, your lack thereof.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:26 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > From what I've read, part of the idea behind their lease - they'll sell you > the car, but not the battery - is to keep the car's selling price low. I > think the battery lease costs about what you'd spend on on fuel for a > com

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: > I see this as the way to make the econobox electric vehicles possible. > The Nissan Leaf would sell for the same price as its essential twin the > Versa and the battery pack would be leased. If it plays out like that and it speeds the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Ed Blackmond via EV wrote: > In the leasing model, battery packs have a guaranteed capacity. It does > not have a guaranteed manufacture date. That implies a corollary: that you might buy the car with a lease on a 24 kWh battery...but are you still going to pay th

Re: [EVDL] Cargo bike with electric chain.

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > If you look to motorcycles - there is empirical evidence - the highest > performance bikes have chains. They do dyno testing and will do whatever > they can to increase how far a tank of gas goes, or to improve acceleration > and top spee

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: > Certainly the BEV dan be designed to make the battery swappable Indeed, Tesla has already done that. I'm sure most here have already seen this, but even so it's worth the few minutes to watch it again: http://www.teslamotors.com/batter

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > There is a certain material inefficiency to make the car larger for > something it only has to do occasionally. At the other end of the process, there's another type of efficiency gain for reducing the number of designs. If a manufactur

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall> ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 28, 2014, at 4:54 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:53 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >> A new study brings an old topic back to the forefront: how much range is >> enough, and is it better to use battery advancements to decrease price >> without improving range o

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: You Just Got Musked> Electric Car Etiquette

2014-08-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 27, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Dennis Miles wrote: > As for your ROAD > Trip capability, the need for public distance transportation the > simple solution is Take the airplane, train, and intercity bus. The > times are changing, you need not drive a personal vehicle across the > USA , Fly and ren

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: You Just Got Musked> Electric Car Etiquette

2014-08-27 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:10 AM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: > On a personal note, I feel that PIH should be prohibited from using > FREE public charging, let them buy gas and only charge at home or at > locations where they have to pay . Make the PIH less appealing ... > Save the FREE Public Location

Re: [EVDL] cost of gas form Oil Sands?

2014-08-22 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: > So the simple conclusion is electricity that Solar PV or wind turbine or > hydro generates is better used charging the BEV battery than the > complex process of manufacturing hydrocarbon. Not only that; the article did the math and concl

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Incentives make buying a new EV better than buying used

2014-08-22 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 22, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: > In general I favor purchasing used over leasing for long term value, but > you can't just ignore the possible maintenance costs an 8 year old car > will have over a 0-3 year old car. While it's always a roll of the dice and an older car is

Re: [EVDL] cost of gas form Oil Sands?

2014-08-21 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 21, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Peakfoto Digital Photo Still n Video via EV wrote: > http://www.hybridcars.com/the-oil-sands-surprising-new-nemesis-plug-in-vehicles/ > > Electric cars are Far more cost n energy effective. At the $200/bbl range the article so casually mentions, even unimaginably

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Vehicle-apartheid! RI law punishes EV & hybrid drivers

2014-08-20 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 20, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: >> Other Hydrogen systems use the hydrogen as fuel for the ICE. > > I'm not aware of any of these, but would certainly be interested in learning > about where it is being done. Regular gasoline engines are, for the most part, equally

Re: [EVDL] 'We're developing a prototype battery powered train'...

2014-08-16 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 16, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: > I can remember streetcars using the catenary wires for power then rubber > tires busses with limited lane changing capability using catenary wires in > Pittsburgh, PA in the mid 1950`s. Unless my remembery is playing tricks on me, MUNI i

[EVDL] Phys.org: Could hemp nanosheets topple graphene for making the ideal supercapacitor?

2014-08-14 Thread Ben Goren via EV
"As hemp makes a comeback in the U.S. after a decades-long ban on its cultivation, scientists are reporting that fibers from the plant can pack as much energy and power as graphene, long-touted as the model material for supercapacitors. They're presenting their research, which a Canadian start-u

Re: [EVDL] Conversion advice (regen)

2014-08-11 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 11, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: >> As for regen, the efficiency improvement you get over DC will vary... >> Typically the improvement is small, because you just don't spend >> that much time braking. ... Learn to make use of coasting and >> you can probably match the

Re: [EVDL] Conversion advice

2014-08-11 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 10, 2014, at 8:58 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > The EVDL is here for all kinds of EV lovers. Amen! What's exciting about EVs is that we're finally at the point that you can buy a good one from a dealer, or that you can take pretty much any car on the road plus a check for ~$2

Re: [EVDL] Electric F-250 new pack tests

2014-08-10 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 9, 2014, at 6:09 PM, David Nelson via EV wrote: > Maybe so but it is in the ballpark and fits a significant number of > conversions with Li batteries. ...and ballpark estimations are invaluable in the early planning phases. Are you going to need $6000 and 300 pounds and 2 cubic feet of b

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Vs UK's Ecotricity Dispute - MoreBackgroundInformation...

2014-08-09 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 9, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Have you ever been customer of a US bank? > I was totally shocked when I came to the USA, fed my new ATM card into > the nearest machine and was asked to pay several dollars "convenience > fee" just to pull my money out of the machine,

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Vs UK's Ecotricity Dispute - More BackgroundInformation...

2014-08-09 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 9, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > The problem, in the US anyway, is that generally each company requires a > membership to use their station. Exactly. Imagine if Ford had its own gas stations which were the only places to fill Ford vehicles and which only let Ford vehicl

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 5:27 PM, "Roland" wrote: > They did this for me and was subjected for my installation, is to have a > opposing belt in the opposite direction of each other or a continuous belt > place on 3 or 4 pulleys 60 to 90 degrees of each other to reduce the bearing > load of the drive

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > I'm thinking it'd be a good idea to see if I can't find somebody at Gates to > help me run some numbers and suggest part specifications. I'd almost > undoubtedly use their belts (I just replaced the disintegrati

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
estment in rail-road infrastructure. >>> >>> Dennis Lee Miles >>> >>> (*evprofes...@evprofessor.com )* >>> >>> * Founder: **EV Tech. Institute Inc.* >>> >>> *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913 (12 noon to 12 midnight Eastern US Time)*

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: > I believe you are mistaken. I think what you need to consider is termed > "overhung load"; this Gates document gives a good overview: Roger, thanks for that excellent resource. Obviously, I'm not an ME...but I'm sure getting a crash c

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: expecting the car to plug itself into a wall outlet / cable is asking a bit much. > >>> I can easily imagine a robot arm that can reach out, find and connect to >>> some >>> contacts mounted somehow on the front license plate area. >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > The other problem with cordless charging - whether robot arm or induction - > is that it requires a certain orientation of the vehicle. In my case, I back > into my driveway because it's too difficult to see when backing out into > traf

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: >> expecting the car to plug itself into a wall outlet / cable is asking a >> bit much. > > Actually If I had the time (after I retire maybe) I can easily imagin a > robot arm on the garage wall that can reach out, find and connect to so

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: > With the gearing Ben could avoid the second > electric motor, and buy more batteries. But it is your decision, Ben. I do like the idea from a mechanical elegance perspective...but the second motor also gives more "oomph" and doesn't cost

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: > Ben Goren wrote: > >> Very interesting! That exact design won't work, as I'm keeping the V8 -- >> but the basic geometry is very similar to what I have in mind. > > Understood; I was thinking that it might be easier to modify the combin

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 9:02 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > On 6 Aug 2014 at 3:37, Dennis Miles via EV wrote: > >> Ben, autos stopped using chain or belt drives 80 years ago ... > > Thank goodness! Imagine having to crawl under your car to clean and lube > the chain every month or so. >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 6, 2014, at 12:13 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > EVLN: i3 EV self-parks> driver climbs out of window to prove (video) When cars become fully autonomous a la Google, that'll significantly change many dynamics, especially efficiency. I'd expect individual ownership to plummet, and instead f

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 5, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: > Ben Goren wrote: > >> The AC-51s use 6207-2RS bearings; my main job is to research their side >> loading capacity. However, Bill says there're a number of side-loaded AC- >> 35s out there, and that he thinks I'm probably okay -- though,

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 5, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: > If I were the OP, I'd still want HPEVS to provide some max safe RPM value, > not just a verbal statement that the 8000RPM limit is a controller limitation > and not a limitation of the motor. No worries. The plan is to treat 8000 RPM a

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-05 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 5, 2014, at 2:25 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > On 4 Aug 2014 at 18:14, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > >> He says it's okay to spin the motors faster than 8000 RPM so long as >> it's not the controller that's sending the current to the motors that

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
e Video link: http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss > <http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss> * > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > >> On Aug 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Lee Hart wrote: >> >>> Since you live in AZ, why not an evaporative &

Re: [EVDL] As an aid when recommending an EV to someone else,

2014-08-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
I have an uncle in San Francisco who has an Honda Fit EV -- part of one of their limited lease public trials. He lives near the top of the hill just south of the park. When he drives down to the park, regen "overfills" his batteries (I'm sure Honda intentionally doesn't have the wall charger tak

Re: [EVDL] As an aid when recommending an EV to someone else,

2014-08-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Don't forget another important time-and-distance metric: time to go 1/4 mile. The street-legal White Zombie's 10.24 quarter mile should more than counter any snickers about EVs being golf carts for old farts. Yes, EVs are vital for stemming the tide of resource exhaustion and pollution, but they

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Lee Hart wrote: > Since you live in AZ, why not an evaporative "swamp cooler"? They work pretty > well in low humidity environments. Sadly, about half the hot season is humid enough for evaporative coolers to be ineffective. Some people have both systems in their ho

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-04 Thread Ben Goren via EV
Just to follow up on this: I spoke with Bill at HPEVS this afternoon. I still don't think he'd be willing to sign off on the project considering the uncharted territory I'm heading into, but he was also rather more encouraging with this latest round of changes. The AC-51s use 6207-2RS bearings;

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
ottle on the carb, though there's a lot to be said for something mechanical.) On Aug 2, 2014, at 1:18 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > On 2 Aug 2014 at 6:48, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > >> I'm now leaning towards insulated battery boxes with Peltier coolers. &

[EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: motorcycle drivetrain?

2014-08-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
So, as I mentioned in that previous post on air conditioning, I was at my shade tree mechanic's yesterday; he was fixing a fuel leak on my '68 Westfalia. And he had what I'm thinking may be the best idea yet for connecting the electric motors in the Mustang. Basically, mount a gear (two gears,

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-02 Thread Ben Goren via EV
earn!* > > * You Tube Video link: http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss > <http://youtu.be/T-FVjMRVLss> * > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 12:22 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV < > ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > >> On 1 Aug 2014 at 13:17, Ben Goren via EV wrote: >&

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Jul 31, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > I believe John Wayland converted one for someone. He's a genius at building > beautiful high-performance conversions -- have you contacted him for details? Didn't occur to me to actually try to contact one of the EV gods. But I suppose it c

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-01 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Aug 1, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > That's an interesting idea. Make it a classic series hybrid! Agreed, Peri, an interesting idea -- and, Lee, your thought of an aviation starter-generator is interesting, too. Not sure that's the direction I want to go, but it's definitely w

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