[EVDL] EVLN: $5k Kiwi converted motorcycle ready for racing @Ruapuna, NZ

2014-06-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
''We just like to go fast,'' ts:130+kph http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/10191101/Electric-bike-ready-for-racing-debut Electric bike ready for racing debut WILL HARVIE 24/06/2014 [image http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1403520872/172/10191172.jpg Electric motorbike / DEAN KOZANIC/ Fairfax

[EVDL] EVLN: Electricity is stable, while gasoline price$ fluctuate wildly

2014-06-28 Thread brucedp5 via EV
An EV is incredibly simple in comparison to an ice http://winchester.wickedlocal.com/article/20140403/NEWS/140408477 Electric cars: Electrics go luxe By Melissa Erickson Apr. 3, 2014 [image http://winchester.wickedlocal.com/storyimage/WL/20140403/NEWS/140408477/EP/1/1/EP-140408477.jpg $100k

[EVDL] Fw: 3d printing auto body

2014-06-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Attn: Jerry Dycus -- Forwarded Message -- From: Peri Hartman pe...@kotatko.com To: Jerry Dycus jer...@ij.net Sent: 28-Jun-14 9:09:47 AM Subject: 3d printing auto body Hi Jerry, I saw this article via EV World and thought of you. I wonder if you could access and make your Freedom EV

Re: [EVDL] 3d printed auto parts

2014-06-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: EVLN: Local Motors Will Build Deliver The 1st 3D-Printed EV @IMTS 2014 Funny, Urbee claims the same thing. I'm sure there are others. Do *any* of the companies that claim world's first... bother to check history before making their claims? http

Re: [EVDL] Fw: 3d printing auto body

2014-06-28 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 3:51 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Attn: Jerry Dycus -- Forwarded Message -- From: Peri Hartman pe...@kotatko.com To: Jerry Dycus jer...@ij.net Sent: 28-Jun-14 9:09:47 AM Subject: 3d printing auto body Hi Jerry, I saw this article via EV

Re: [EVDL] Fw: 3d printing auto body

2014-06-28 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
!! Jerry Dycus On Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:06 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Good to hear.  I'd like to see you achieve your goal of a 250 mile range ev! -- Original Message -- From

[EVDL] EVLN: MG EV concept UK first drive review r:~71mi

2014-06-29 Thread brucedp5 via EV
MG's EV is based on parent company SAIC's Roewe E50 http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mg-motor/mg3/first-drives/mg-ev-concept-uk-first-drive-review MG EV concept UK first drive review 24 June 2014 [images http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/mg-ev-concept-1-14.jpg MG's

[EVDL] EVLN: VHS vs Betamax automakers' chose different paths

2014-06-29 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% Tesla-S' near 300mi range is not mentioned, yet refueling time is % http://www.autotalk.com/global-automakers-split-on-green-car-strategy-24059/ Global automakers split on ‘green car’ strategy By AFP June 19, 2014 Global automakers are locked in a showdown evoking the video format wars of

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VHS vs Betamax automakers' chose different paths

2014-06-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
can only be a short term solution. If a large percentage of vehicles were to use hydrogen, the environmental and monetary costs would be visible to the public and prohibitive. Please be more responsible in your reporting! Thanks. Peri -- Original Message -- From: brucedp5 via EV ev

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VHS vs Betamax automakers' chose different paths

2014-06-29 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
USA On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: This is another oblivious report on hydrogen as a fuel. I sent a comment to the editor but could not figure out how to post a comment for the article (logging into the forum does not allow you to post

[EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Was shocked to hear that the Postal Service gets an average of 7 MPG in the delivery of mail. At first, I couldn’t see how those little jeeps can be so poorly designed, and then I realized that the average daily use is 28 miles with 500 stops over a span of several hours, during which the

[EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
A friend said they got a Solar City Quote for $8k for a 6 kW system here in Maryland. That’s under $1.50 a watt installed! That is a one-time fully pre-paid upfront lease. Pay it once and free electricity for the next 20 years. The homeonwer can buy out the array any time from now till then

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VHS vs Betamax automakers' chose different paths

2014-06-29 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
guess the reporter had to make up his own facts to fit the article he wanted to write. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:28 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: % Tesla-S' near 300mi range is not mentioned, yet refueling time is % http://www.autotalk.com/global-automakers

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
It seems like a natural, doesn't it? However, over the years, the USPS has run several trials of EVs. None of them has ever resulted in significant additions of EVs to their regular fleet. Similarly, there have been many pilot programs in Europe. I don't know of any which has yet resulted

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-29 Thread Michael Ross via EV
not figured out quite how they operate in all the various situations that people find themselves in vis a vis their utility and local government. On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: A friend said they got a Solar City Quote for $8k for a 6 kW system

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
a lot of items compared to what an in-city fleet carries per vehicle. Peri -- Original Message -- From: EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 29-Jun-14 12:57:19 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: It appears to me that EVs have not yet been a success in postal delivery. I can't understand why not. Anyone with other (I hope more positive) information please post it. I have some information on this regarding the US Postal Service's efforts. The Post

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread Rush Dougherty via EV
Rush www.TucsonEV.com -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:37 PM To: EVDL Administrator; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average EVDL

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Great info I wasn't aware of - explains a lot. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: It appears to me that EVs have not yet been a success in postal delivery. I can't understand why not. Anyone with other

[EVDL] Postal Service EVs

2014-06-29 Thread brucedp5 via EV
/ {brucedp.150m.com} On Sun, Jun 29, 2014, at 01:37 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: It appears to me that EVs have not yet been a success in postal delivery. I can't understand why not. Anyone with other (I hope more positive) information please post it. I

Re: [EVDL] Postal Service EVs

2014-06-29 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Must've been mid-90s when I had a little involvement. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2014, at 3:56 PM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Current USPS mail truck ice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_LLV The opec.org oil-embargo fuel-shortage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC

[EVDL] EVLN: CARB Publishes EV Driver Dashboard Survey Results

2014-06-30 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://cleantechnica.com/2014/06/24/california-publishes-results-ev-survey/ California Publishes Results Of EV Survey June 24th, 2014 by Christopher DeMorro [image http://c1cleantechnicacom.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2014/06/carb-ev-study.png CARB EV study ] Without a doubt, California

[EVDL] EVLN: Owner Sez ‘Yes’ You Can Tow With a Tesla-S EV! (video)

2014-06-30 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'May be illegal if your area doesn't allow towing using your EV' http://transportevolved.com/2014/06/24/can-tow-tesla-model-s-one-owner-answers-emphatic-yes/ Can You Tow With a Tesla Model S? One Owner Answers With an Emphatic ‘Yes’ June 24, 2014 By Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield [images

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
incentives. --Rick On 06/29/2014 04:01 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: I am interested in Solarcity. They offer a way for people with less funds and credit to get solar on their house. But, I have not figured out quite how they operate in all the various situations that people find themselves

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-30 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
On 06/29/2014 03:57 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: It appears to me that EVs have not yet been a success in postal delivery. I can't understand why not. Anyone with other (I hope more positive) information please post it. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator Our

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall via EV
is not good. Z On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I have 9.3kw of SolarCity cells on my house using their Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) and they've been great to work with. With a PPA I basically agreed to buy all the electricity the panels produce

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: VHS vs Betamax automakers' chose different paths

2014-06-30 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
, Dennis Miles via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Peri, some of us read and comprehend your postings, I agree with you. Hydrogen has a long tail pipe with a diameter twice as large as electricity from the utility has and wastes 50% of the solar PV electric produced if it used to form hydrogen, compared

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Owner Sez ‘Yes’ You Can Tow With a Tesla-S EV! (video)

2014-06-30 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
with someone from Europe. He was asking what approvals I had to get on the design. I explained that in my state, you could do anything you wanted with your car unless it is specifically illegal. He was shocked. Mike On June 30, 2014 2:20:09 AM MDT, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: 'May

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Michael Ross via EV
systems with no warrantee any more is not good. Z On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I have 9.3kw of SolarCity cells on my house using their Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) and they've been great to work with. With a PPA I basically agreed to buy all

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
with Geothermal. I got estimates from $28k to $45k for the same job. And turns out the real pros were the $28k and the other estimates were from me too contractors jumping on the bandwagon. Bob -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ross via EV Sent

Re: [EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-30 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Rick Beebe via EV wrote: On 06/29/2014 03:57 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: It appears to me that EVs have not yet been a success in postal delivery. I can't understand why not. Anyone with other (I hope more positive) information please post it. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
right now. I do derive a great deal of satisfaction charging an PHEV and BEV and still getting a $0 electric bill. --Rick On 06/30/2014 11:41 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Actually, Solar City is mostly just a marketing, and financing system. They then hire local companies to do

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Well, Solarcity is buying a panel manufacturer. In true Musk form, he is going to push PV as hard as he can - partly to fuel Tesla cars. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Actually, Solar City is mostly just a marketing, and financing system

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Michael Ross via EV
surcharges - all hidden from view in that one line item. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Not true here. Every one involved in my installation was a SolarCity employee. That said, they've been growing so fast that they have a hard time hiring enough people

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Mon Jun 30 09:44:00 PDT 2014 ev@lists.evdl.org said: I use 0 net power and they bill me for a couple bits less than $20 every month. For electric service, and various surcharges - all hidden from view in that one line item. There there are those lucky enough to have PSE (Puget Sound Energy).

Re: [EVDL] Fw: 3d printing auto body

2014-06-30 Thread Lee Hart via EV
jerry freedomev via EV wrote: lithiums... BMS... composites...finally makes long range EVs viable at a reasonable cost. The FreedomEV has the weight, space, and capacity for 450-500 mile range if I wanted to... But probably stick with under 150 miles to save weight, cost... I agree. Just

[EVDL] Battery Swap - the idea that just wont die!

2014-06-30 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Just because you *can* get a 400 mile range doesn't mean you should. For one thing, doubling the range doubles the cost of your batteries. It also lowers efficiency, since you'll be carrying around twice the battery weight. ... But I do like the idea of a re-sizable pack. Yes, good idea to

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
No, just $0 generation/distribution. I have to pay $16.50 as a base connect/govt fee charge. --Rick On 06/30/2014 12:44 PM, Michael Ross wrote: Do you really get a $0 utility bills? According to my utility Duke Progess you should be ashamed of your self hanging infrastructure costs on poor

[EVDL] What procedure you use to predict and extend battery life?

2014-06-30 Thread Roland via EV
I install thirty US Battery 6 volt 250 AH batteries on Sept 4 2009. This time, I made changes to the fiberglass battery box by coating the surfaces with acid proof epoxy coating. Install a explosion proof and acid proof inline exhaust fan which is connected to the battery box with acid proof

[EVDL] EVLN: Can all my stuff fit in a BMW i3 EV?

2014-07-01 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.bmwblog.com/2014/06/25/can-fit-bass-bmw-i3/ Can I fit my Bass in a BMW i3? BMW i | June 25th, 2014 by Chuck Vossler [images http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/bmw-i3-bass-fit-14.jpg http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/bmw-i3-bass-fit-11.jpg

[EVDL] EVLN: Nissan woos women with Ladies First Dealerships (video)

2014-07-01 Thread brucedp5 via EV
I brought a Nissan LEAF so it's great that I can charge my EV here while I feed my baby. And older children can play in the kids' corner. http://www.motoring.com.au/news/nissan/nissan-woos-women-44324 Nissan woos women 24 June 2014 [image

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Owner Sez ‘Yes’ You Can Tow With a Tesla-S EV! (video)

2014-07-01 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
On 30 Jun 2014, at 15:41, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: I think that Willie (on this list) has been towing a trailer with his Tesla Model S for some time. I read his postings on some of the trips. I think it was late last year. I find the differences between the U.S. and Europe kind

[EVDL] A different approach: higher parking cost for fuel hog$ free for EVs

2014-07-01 Thread brucedp5 via EV
While in the U.S. EV drivers have to contend with the icing of EV spots, and the cost in some cases of both the parking cost and the cost the EVSE dings them, Madrid.es has a different idea: Madrid's smart parking meters charge up to 20 percent more for high polluting cars, to completely free

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Owner Sez ‘Yes’ You Can Tow With a Tesla-S EV! (video)

2014-07-01 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
.     Jerry Dycus On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:36 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Vehicle mods in Europe are generally very much frowned upon.  Trying to convert an ICE to an EV, for example, is nigh-on impossible

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Owner Sez ‘Yes’ You Can Tow With a Tesla-S EV! (video)

2014-07-01 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
parts, not that I have a choice.   And why all trains are electric drive.   Just another reason to love EV's, it's torque, economy make towing a breeze.     Jerry Dycus On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:36 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev

[EVDL] EVLN: 1st look @Nissan e-NV200 e-van that’s loaded with tech

2014-07-02 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/features/enterprise/nissan-e-nv200-first-look/ Nissan e-NV200: a first look at the all-electric van that’s loaded with tech by Jim Martin 27 June 2014 [images http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3527720/Nissan-eNV200-main.jpg Nissan e-NV200

[EVDL] EVLN: 2014 Leaf July7 replace-inverter recall EV might Auto-Shutdown

2014-07-02 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2014/nissan-leaf-recall-shutdown.shtml Nissan recalls LEAF after finding the cars can shut down on their own By David A. Wood June 27, 2014 [image] Leaf EV June 27, 2014 — Nissan is recalling 196 model year 2014 Nissan LEAF electric cars that could shut down

[EVDL] EVLN: $5.5k dealer swaps-in improved Leaf pack with better chemistry

2014-07-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'The new lizard battery formulation is more capable of resisting very high temperatures' http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1092983_nissan-leaf-battery-cost-5500-for-replacement-with-heat-resistant-chemistry Nissan Leaf New Battery Cost: $5,500 For Replacement With Heat-Resistant Chemistry By

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $5.5k dealer swaps-in improved Leaf pack with better chemistry

2014-07-03 Thread rustybkts via EV
This is great news but not surprising regarding the price as I have never understood why the cell packs were touted as being a huge expense on EV's. The price paid by the guy in the street for small quantities always going to be a minimum of 100% higher as my own 36kWh pack was around £8000 two

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 500e's well-deserved kudos, best low-co$t EV ever driven ...

2014-07-03 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
Rustybkts, Your comment says it almost plainly. Its funny isn't it that some CEO's see the future and others are hooked on oil. I tend to compare it to their earning 13 pieces of silver, paid by the Oil Producers, to the CEOs, for serving Oil, not the consumer. Kick oil out, buy Electric Vehicles.

[EVDL] Newswires a buzz about Tesla Model E ...

2014-07-03 Thread brucedp5 via EV
I previously posted http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-Drops-Using-Model-E-Trademark-tp4669528.html EVLN: Tesla Drops Using 'Model E' Trademark May 15, 2014 that Ford threatened to sue if Tesla did not drop using the Model E naming (Tesla now calling that

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 500e's well-deserved kudos, best low-co$t EV ever driven ...

2014-07-04 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
if he's ever driven one? MW On 3 Jul 2014, at 10:02, rustybkts via EV wrote: Why is it that Fiat Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne seems to go on so much about how much he is losing from each 500e when it gets so much praise? I remember not so long ago that all new ICE models used to be advertised

[EVDL] EVLN: tudelft.nl students show off an extreme racing-EV 0-62mph:2.13s

2014-07-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
'50% more power than a Leaf EV, though its only a tenth the weight' http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/auto-blog/a-sick-new-ride-by-the-makers-of-the-fastest-ev-16940656?click=pm_latest A Sick New Ride by the Makers of the Fastest EV June 30, 2014 by Alexander George [image

[EVDL] EVLN: Harley e-Motorcycle to Debut in 'Avengers' sequel

2014-07-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=119797 Harley Davidson's Electric Motorcycle to Debut in Avengers: Age of Ultron June 23, 2014 Harley Davidson, Associated Press [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=ZtQMQeIc7fI UPTV.kr· Apr 4, 2014 (ecycle at the 1min point)

[EVDL] EVLN: Plugins are the most patriotic car decision you can make

2014-07-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Show American pride make the switch to a plug-in UK should buy more British cars Sunderland built electric Leaf http://www.torquenews.com/2250/most-patriotic-car-decision-you-can-make The most patriotic car decision you can make By Luke Ottaway 2014-07-04 This 4th of July we should recognize

[EVDL] EVLN: Tesla-S thief survived 100+mph crash w/ driver's half into bldg

2014-07-04 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% Note: pack fires did not start until after Tesla-S EV was cut in half, and EV's design is so safe, the driver survived! % http://ktla.com/2014/07/04/tesla-crashes-into-cars-and-building-splits-in-half-in-weho-multiple-people-injured/ LAPD: Stolen Tesla Involved in Police Pursuit Crashes Into

[EVDL] EVLN: Hon-Hai/Foxconn talks electric cars priced under US$15, 000

2014-07-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Foxconn CEO: 'Suicides weren't our fault' 'some from monotonous work' http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/business/2014/06/26/411014/Hon-Hai.htm Hon Hai promises electric cars priced under US$15,000 CNA June 26, 2014 TAIPEI, Taiwan -- Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., a Taiwanese assembler of

[EVDL] EVLN: Canadians get big EV tax incentives Evatran wireless EVSE

2014-07-05 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://green.autoblog.com/2014/06/26/ev-support-in-canada-with-tax-incentives-wireless-ev-charging/ EVs get support in Canada with big tax incentives, wireless EV charging By Danny King Jun 26th 2014 [images

[EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-05 Thread Roland via EV
On the program - Outrageous Act of Science - there is a engineer that built a EV using only a motor that is power by a alternator connected to a flywheel that is human power through a step up gear system. One battery is use to excite the alternator. The person or a group of persons uses the

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
-- From: Roland via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 05-Jul-14 3:28:10 PM Subject: [EVDL] Man power EV On the program - Outrageous Act of Science - there is a engineer that built a EV using only a motor that is power by a alternator connected

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-05 Thread Roland via EV
site title human power vehicle by passengers with the address http://io9.com/5613347/http://io9.com/5613347/ came up. Roland -- Original Message -- From: Roland via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgmailto:ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.orgmailto:ev

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
: Roland via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 05-Jul-14 3:28:10 PM Subject: [EVDL] Man power EV On the program - Outrageous Act of Science - there is a engineer that built a EV using only a motor that is power by a alternator connected to a flywheel

[EVDL] EVLN: ElectraGirl Sez 5 Things You Might Not Know About Your BMW i3 EV

2014-07-06 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://transportevolved.com/2014/06/28/5-things-might-know-bmw-i3/ 5 Things You Might Not Know About Your BMW i3 June 28, 2014 By ElectraGirl [images http://media.transportevolved.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-BMW-i3-Hill-hold.jpg? 2014 BMW i3 Hill hold

[EVDL] EVLN: Buy a Polaris EV w/ a Farm Bureau Member Advantage! discount

2014-07-06 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.minnesotafarmguide.com/news/regional/discounts-on-polaris-off-road-vehicles-offered-to-farm-bureau/article_fc618f68-0154-11e4-b491-0019bb2963f4.html Discounts on Polaris off-road vehicles offered to Farm Bureau members 07.01.2014 Farm Bureau is pleased to announce that a new FB

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Canadians get big EV tax incentives Evatran, wireless EVSE (EV Digest, Vol 21, Issue 5)

2014-07-06 Thread Darryl McMahon via EV
/07/2014 4:03 PM, via EV wrote: Message: 4 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 01:47:04 -0700 (PDT) From: brucedp5 via EVev@lists.evdl.org To:ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Canadians get big EV tax incentives Evatran wirelessEVSE Message-ID:1404550024607-4670243.p...@n4.nabble.com Content

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-06 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Really, as creative as it is, can it be more effective than a bicycle mechanism? You'd be surprised. Any crank mechanism is rather limited in efficiency. At the top and bottom of the stroke it doesn't matter how

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
. Bob http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/other-gadgets/solowheel.htm Search for onewheel cycle or solowheel and On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Thanks. Didn't expect you to research it, I just thought you might already have more info

[EVDL] EVLN: Li liked the Rimac EV so much, he's buying the company 0-100kph:2.8s

2014-07-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% Partner China-Dynamics in Beijing would produce Rimac EVs % http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=21art_id=147015sid=42563991con_type=1d_str=20140704fc=7 Dream drives closer for Richard Li July 04, 2014 [image] Every man has his dream car. Richard Li Tzar-kai, pictured, is no

[EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV
After seeing many misinformed newswires on that topic, that did not state where EVs are available and at what price so the public can compare, I thought I would put together this post. I encourage comments and evdl members to post similarly of what EVs are available and their prices in their

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: AAA sez hot weather reduces EV range by a 33%

2014-07-07 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 07/07/2014 03:53 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://foxct.com/2014/07/03/july-4th-travel-tips/ July 4th Travel Tips by Samantha Schoenfeld [2014/07/03] If you are taking a road trip this holiday weekend make sure to plan ahead ... Temperature can greatly impact how far cars—especially

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: AAA sez hot weather reduces EV range by a 33%

2014-07-07 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
...@evprofessor.com *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913* Dade City, Florida 33523 USA On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:53 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: http://foxct.com/2014/07/03/july-4th-travel-tips/ July 4th Travel Tips by Samantha Schoenfeld [2014/07/03] If you are taking a road trip

Re: [EVDL] Vibration

2014-07-07 Thread Roland via EV
Hello Dennis, To balance a assembly, it is best to have each unit balance separately and then again as a assembly. Some electric motor shops can do balancing for engines assemblies and electric motors. About every 10 years, I pull my motor for maintenance and install another motor and

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV (lesson learned)

2014-07-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
bike experience. Oh, and yes, it does have an electric boost motor, hence, on-topic. Bob, WB4APR -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:51 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL

[EVDL] Webinar - What Has Happened To The Electric Vehicle Market? July 15th

2014-07-07 Thread Len Moskowitz via EV
http://electronics360.globalspec.com/calendar ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV (lesson learned)

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Ross via EV
of heart. I think you might get used to it and even appreciate it. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Speaking of maneuverability. Here is my $1000 lesson learned: I bought a recumbent trike with the idea of riding the ideal commute 12 mile rail

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Ross via EV
the intel about dealer cost interesting. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:41 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: After seeing many misinformed newswires on that topic, that did not state where EVs are available and at what price so the public can compare, I thought I would put together

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
No iMiev? Even though sales are low, I would consider them a non-compliance car. Peri -- Original Message -- From: Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.org To: brucedp5 bruce...@operamail.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org Sent: 07-Jul-14 8:44:00 AM Subject: Re

[EVDL] Gas Rewards - No!, EV's yes!

2014-07-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Hearing the Grocery Store ads for their “Gas Rewards” programs just hit me this weekend as being a perfect example of how WRONG-HEADED we are. If you feel similarly offended by “gas reward programs” that encourage just more burning of fossil fuel, you might want to WRITE to them and register

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Jamie K via EV
at 5:41 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Leaf: ~427 (=32000/75) i3: ~511 (=43000/81) Tesla-S: ~337 (=7/208) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing

[EVDL] EVLN: Palmdale Tesla Crash driver OK, ice3killed+2injured (video)

2014-07-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV
The Media's Tesla Fear Mongering For Headlines Must Stop % 2nd holiday Tesla crash, Palmdale is north of LA, this time it was the ice that split in two and caught fire % http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Family-Members-Dead-After-Tesla-Honda-Crash-in-Palmdale-265890521.html One Adult,

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV
I believe the EPA range is fact, but to compare apples with apples. {brucedp.150m.com} On Mon, Jul 7, 2014, at 09:21 AM, Jamie K via EV wrote: Note that the LEAF is currently rated at 84 mile EPA range, not 75. Taking that into account, and if you look at the actual price people

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Jamie K via EV
the tax incentives are a bigger percentage of the purchase price for the LEAF than the Tesla. It will be interesting to see how the expected longer range LEAF and lower priced Tesla line up in a few years. Cheers, -Jamie On 7/7/14 10:53 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: With a little help from my

[EVDL] Miles EV Parts Available?

2014-07-07 Thread lektwik via EV
Hi Folks Miles cars is now out of business and the only source of new parts has gone away. Possibly someone on this list knows of cross-reference info. Particularly for brake parts. Info I can find says they are a Chinese copy of the Daihatsu Move, a low-speed vehicle never imported into the

Re: [EVDL] Sources for Miles EV Parts?

2014-07-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV
via EV wrote: ... Miles cars is now out of business and the only source of new parts has gone away. Possibly someone on this list knows of cross-reference info. Particularly for brake parts. Info I can find says they are a Chinese copy of the Daihatsu Move, a low-speed vehicle never

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Ben Apollonio via EV
, the Tesla is definitely the superior car for 99% of your driving needs. -Ben On Jul 7, 2014, at 5:41 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: After seeing many misinformed newswires on that topic, that did not state where EVs are available and at what price so the public can compare, I

Re: [EVDL] Sources for Miles EV Parts?

2014-07-07 Thread Cruisin via EV
I have a lot of new and used parts for the Miles cars and trucks. email me at crui...@live.com with a specific list of what you need and I will provide price and availability. -- View this message in context:

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Apollonio via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I know it's not a 'true' EV, but definitely don't forget the noble Chevy Volt. At just $34k before tax credit, it provides decent EV range (unlike the other PIH), decent performance, a coddled battery that will last forever, actual back seat and trunk

[EVDL] A cheap used Volt pih for Michael

2014-07-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Chevrolet-Volt-Raleigh-d2012_L25152 2012 Volt Base Good Deal $841 BELOW Instant Market Value of $16,629 Price: $15,788 $229/mo Mileage: 86,250 Location: Sanford, NC Also see http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Chevrolet-Volt-Charlotte-d2012_L25416

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Jamie K via EV
On 7/7/14 6:47 PM, Ben Apollonio via EV wrote: I know it's not a 'true' EV, but definitely don't forget the noble Chevy Volt. At just $34k before tax credit, it provides decent EV range (unlike the other PIH), decent performance, a coddled battery that will last forever, actual back seat

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-07 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: With a little help from my friends, I am corrected: according to http://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/leaf/charging-range/range/ The Nissan LEAF® can get you 84 miles on a single charge. [*] Speed, topography, load, and accessory use can significantly affect

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Li liked the Rimac EV so much, he's buying the company 0-100kph:2.8s

2014-07-07 Thread David Nelson via EV
Good for Mate Rimac! He has been working on this for a long time. I watched his progress he used to post on DIY. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion,

[EVDL] EVLN: Public shaming used as a tool to stop icing of EV spots

2014-07-08 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/taking-aim-at-bad-parking-with-social-media-1.1899598 Taking aim at bad parking with social media July 4, 2014 [images http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1899857!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg CTV Ottawa: Local group shames poor

[EVDL] EVLN: Nimbus E-Car pih summons the ghost of the hippy dippy VW bus

2014-07-08 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Onboard microgenerator for backup battery-pack charging http://ecomento.com/2014/07/07/nimbus-e-car-electric-vehicle-concept-summons-the-ghost-of-the-vw-microbus/ Nimbus E-Car electric vehicle concept summons the ghost of the VW Microbus July 7, 2014 [images

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-08 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
Smart ED: ~377 (=25700/68) Leaf: ~427 (=32000/75) i3: ~511 (=43000/81) Tesla-S: ~337 (=7/208) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use

Re: [EVDL] Sources for Miles EV Parts?

2014-07-08 Thread lektwik via EV
Thank you very much for all your effort here Bruce! Will pursue some of these. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:14 PM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I'll assume you have already tried using the contact info on their web site http://www.milesev.com/ To Order Parts: Login to EPC to order

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-08 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Excellent points. All renewable installations have to have this sort of accounting. Building for peak use is often unreasonable. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I don't know if your metric is the right one to use, but for the Tesla, I think

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 8 Jul 2014 at 11:05, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: For an extra $500 per hour for a 30 minute highway charge? I don't think so. I've read this over 4 times, and I'm still having trouble understanding your point with it. I guess I'm still missing something. is it worth an extra $26,000

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-08 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
. Or even better, take the train and get a lot of work or rest done on the trip. Washington to NYC is one of the worst drives in this country. --Rick On 07/08/2014 11:05 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: I don't know if your metric is the right one to use, but for the Tesla, I think that using the 85

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-08 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: The smart EV driver would buy a leaf for $32,000 or a Smart ED for $25,700 and spend $40 a week to rent an ICE car for their Washington to NY trip instead of spending $40,000 extra for the Model S and having to cool their heels at some truck stop

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-08 Thread harry henderson via EV
what about the chevy spark? harry Albuquerque, NM current bike: http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/1179 current non-bike: http://evalbum.com/1000 On Mon, 7/7/14, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Subject: Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs

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