Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-07 Thread meekerdb
On 5/7/2014 9:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I am not saying those can cure, but that the patient should have the choice. Better to be cured by a con doctor with a placebo, than killed by a diplom doctor with a genuine and fatal medication. All the patient has to do is go to Mexico for treatment

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 May 2014, at 12:22, LizR wrote: In New Zealand the government just made "legal highs" illegal, so I agree with you, they're just creating a black market for political reasons. No. Not for political reasons. for un-political reasons. But also from ignorance, brainwashing. It is a

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-07 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
http://www.lse.ac.uk/IDEAS/publications/reports/pdf/LSE-IDEAS-DRUGS-REPORT-FINAL-WEB.pdf >From economists perspective. PGC On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:30 PM, LizR wrote: > ...or rather ON a free market basis. > > > On 7 May 2014 22:22, LizR wrote: > >> In New Zealand the government just made "l

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-07 Thread LizR
...or rather ON a free market basis. On 7 May 2014 22:22, LizR wrote: > In New Zealand the government just made "legal highs" illegal, so I agree > with you, they're just creating a black market for political reasons. > > My point was that where do you get cops from if everything is run no a >

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-07 Thread LizR
In New Zealand the government just made "legal highs" illegal, so I agree with you, they're just creating a black market for political reasons. My point was that where do you get cops from if everything is run no a free market basis? On 7 May 2014 22:07, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 07 May 2014

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 May 2014, at 00:38, LizR wrote: On 7 May 2014 01:40, Bruno Marchal wrote: May be. In my conception, free market means that anyone can sell anything, as long as playing fair. If I sell you a medication, without warning you on some known side-effects, I should been able to be prosec

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-06 Thread LizR
On 7 May 2014 01:40, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > May be. In my conception, free market means that anyone can sell anything, > as long as playing fair. If I sell you a medication, without warning you on > some known side-effects, I should been able to be prosecuted, for example. > > OK. Who would enf

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 23:41, LizR wrote: On 5 May 2014 19:02, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 May 2014, at 23:46, LizR wrote: On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes wrote: Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at th

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-06 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:48 PM, LizR wrote: > On 5 May 2014 20:19, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:46 PM, LizR wrote: >> >>> On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 6 May 2014 08:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > In the US, if I may be so opinionated, would tell Lenny that Mr. Joe.. is > now US president, even though he hates the other 50% of the country. Those > people of Joe's hue, like anyone else, can, if o

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 22:44, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > The rigged game of inflationist economies became obvious with feminism: > once women joined the work force, it became harder for families to survive > on a single salary. It's an enslavement system that deprives children of > spending time with their

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 20:19, Telmo Menezes wrote: > On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:46 PM, LizR wrote: > >> On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >>> Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not >>> catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The >>> mo

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 19:02, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 04 May 2014, at 23:46, LizR wrote: > > On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not >> catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The >> money supply

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
ge- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Sun, May 4, 2014 5:40 pm Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture On 5 May 2014 00:00, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Liz, I am guessing the capitalism remark is undeserved, in the sense that making money is inherently evil (making goods, and

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
their perspective politicians, and these politically minded billionaires control what goes on. Both groups that is, not just conservatives. -Original Message- From: John Mikes To: everything-list Sent: Sun, May 4, 2014 5:34 pm Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture Somebody wrote

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > 2014-05-05 10:30 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes : > > >> >> >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:48 AM, LizR wrote: >> >>> On 5 May 2014 13:57, meekerdb wrote: >>> It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make bitcoin

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-05-05 10:30 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes : > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:48 AM, LizR wrote: > >> On 5 May 2014 13:57, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make >>> bitcoins first hope to profit from their appreciation. >>> >> >> Hm. It all sounds

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:48 AM, LizR wrote: > On 5 May 2014 13:57, meekerdb wrote: > >> It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make >> bitcoins first hope to profit from their appreciation. >> > > Hm. It all sounds a bit Ponzi-like to me. > If you go by that definition alo

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:46 PM, LizR wrote: > On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not >> catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The >> money supply itself is not under the control of the ma

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 03:57, meekerdb wrote: It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make bitcoins first hope to profit from their appreciation. Bitcoin was at first a way to go around the sickness (the non free- ness) of current capitalism, notably to reflect the demand of

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 23:46, LizR wrote: On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes wrote: Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The money supply itself is not under the control of the market, so the

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 23:34, John Mikes wrote: Somebody wrote (Liz?): It was me, answering to Liz. For example there is no problem with capitalism per se, unless you allow money to vote. Lobbying can be permitted, but not through financial helps. If you allow this, you kill capitalism,

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 22:48, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:17:29 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 May 2014, at 01:14, LizR wrote: On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, but yo

RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 6:12 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture I don't know much about bitcoin, except you can "mine" b

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 13:57, meekerdb wrote: > It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make > bitcoins first hope to profit from their appreciation. > Hm. It all sounds a bit Ponzi-like to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everythin

Re: FW: [Mind and Brain] RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 13:18, meekerdb wrote: > On 5/4/2014 3:00 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 5 May 2014 07:56, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 5/4/2014 1:45 AM, LizR wrote: >> >> "Concern on" isn't grammatical, I assume you mean "concern >>> with". Well, we were discussing creation myths vs science, hence

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread meekerdb
It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make bitcoins first hope to profit from their appreciation. Brent On 5/4/2014 6:12 PM, LizR wrote: I don't know much about bitcoin, except you can "mine" bitcoins at some expense - to your power bill, your time and the environment. Wh

Re: FW: [Mind and Brain] RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread meekerdb
On 5/4/2014 3:00 PM, LizR wrote: On 5 May 2014 07:56, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 5/4/2014 1:45 AM, LizR wrote: "Concern on" isn't grammatical, I assume you mean "concern with". Well, we were discussing creation myths vs science, hence the concern.

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
I don't know much about bitcoin, except you can "mine" bitcoins at some expense - to your power bill, your time and the environment. What's the point? (And how does it manipulate the medium of exchange?) On 5 May 2014 12:34, meekerdb wrote: > On 5/4/2014 12:38 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > Yes,

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread meekerdb
On 5/4/2014 12:38 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The money supply itself is not under the control of the market, so the system is non-capitalist at its core. Bitcoi

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 09:34, John Mikes wrote: > Somebody wrote (Liz?): > > *For example there is no problem with capitalism per se, unless you allow > money to vote. Lobbying can be permitted, but not through financial helps. > If you allow this, you kill capitalism, and transform it into corporatism >

Re: FW: [Mind and Brain] RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 07:56, meekerdb wrote: > On 5/4/2014 1:45 AM, LizR wrote: > > "Concern on" isn't grammatical, I assume you mean "concern >> with". Well, we were discussing creation myths vs science, hence the >> concern. >> It is grammatical in the same sense as "Senators Express Concern

Re: [Mind and Brain] RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 07:42, Philip Benjamin wrote: > [*lizj...@gmail.com* ] "Maybe you should attempt to > explain your position in a standalone post rather than making - to me > rather confusing - comments which allude to it". > [*Philip Benjamin*] > > *Testability:* There is no testability of any of

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes wrote: > Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not > catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The > money supply itself is not under the control of the market, so the system > is non-capitalist at its core.

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 00:00, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Liz, I am guessing the capitalism remark is undeserved, in the sense that > making money is inherently evil (making goods, and providing services?), > for me that is It's only undeserved if everyone

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread John Mikes
Somebody wrote (Liz?): *For example there is no problem with capitalism per se, unless you allow money to vote. Lobbying can be permitted, but not through financial helps. If you allow this, you kill capitalism, and transform it into corporatism and monopolism, which kill the "genuine" competition

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:17:29 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 04 May 2014, at 01:14, LizR wrote: > > On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, >> but you couldn'

Re: FW: [Mind and Brain] RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread meekerdb
On 5/4/2014 1:45 AM, LizR wrote: "Concern on" isn't grammatical, I assume you mean "concern with". Well, we were discussing creation myths vs science, hence the concern. It is grammatical in the same sense as "Senators Express Concern on Reverse Mortgage Rule/s/ [/not rul

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, May 4, 2014 7:09:27 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: > > Hi ghibbsa, > > > On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 3:24 PM, > wrote: > >> >> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:09:10 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 7:15 AM, wrote: >>> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 04 May 2014, at 01:14, LizR wrote: > > On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, >> but you couldn't term

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 01:14, LizR wrote: On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List > wrote: I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, but you couldn't term the Hindu faith as pacifist either. In the 20th century the political movement that had atheism at i

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi ghibbsa, On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:09:10 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 7:15 AM, wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:59 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: >>> On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything L

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
am Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:09:10 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 7:15 AM, wrote: On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:59 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I shan't defen

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:09:10 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: > > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 7:15 AM, > wrote: > >> >> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:59 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: >> >>> On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < >>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> I shan't de

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
beloved lands and culture. -Original Message- From: ghibbsa To: everything-list Sent: Sun, May 4, 2014 1:15 am Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:59 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I shan't defend the

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
soon surpass all of them if we aren't careful.) -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Sat, May 3, 2014 7:15 pm Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I shan't defend the behaviors of the A

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 7:15 AM, wrote: > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:59 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: > >> On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < >> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, >>> but you couldn't te

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
On 4 May 2014 17:15, wrote: > > On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:59 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: > >> On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < >> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, >>> but you couldn't term the Hind

Re: FW: [Mind and Brain] RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-04 Thread LizR
> > "Concern on" isn't grammatical, I assume you mean "concern with". Well, we > were discussing creation myths vs science, hence the concern. > It is grammatical in the same sense as "Senators Express Concern onReverse > Mortgage Rule > *s* [*not rule*] By RACHEL > ABRAMS

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:14:59 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: > > On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, >> but you couldn't term the Hindu faith as pacifist either. In the 2

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread LizR
On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, but > you couldn't term the Hindu faith as pacifist either. In the 20th century > the political movement that had atheism at its c

RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 12:22 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions over the centuries, but you cou

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 May 2014, at 11:46, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:24 PM, John Mikes wrote: Telmo, I admire your self-control in 'religious' topics. Do you indeed have a well fitting definition of religious? Dear John, I don't have a good definition. I do have a distinction thoug

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 May 2014, at 20:21, Samiya Illias wrote: On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 May 2014, at 05:35, Samiya Illias wrote: Evolution and Creationism are generally considered to be opposing world views. This article attempts to prove from Scripture the existe

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Sat, May 3, 2014 1:22 pm Subject: RE: Evolution from Scripture From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8

RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:15 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Evolution from Scripture On Fri, May 2, 2014 Samiya Illias wrote: > John asks: Name

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 2, 2014 Samiya Illias wrote: > John asks: Name one scientific fact in the Bible or the Koran that you > wouldn't expect members of a Bronze Age tribe in 1500BC to know. > >1. More than one stomach in a honey bee's body >2. Description of human embryo which can only be studied

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:24 PM, John Mikes wrote: > Telmo, I admire your self-control in 'religious' topics. Do you indeed > have a well fitting definition of religious? > Dear John, I don't have a good definition. I do have a distinction though: good religious feelings come from contemplating

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 03 May 2014, at 09:15, Kim Jones wrote: > > > On 3 May 2014, at 4:59 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: > > Will do as separate threads, insha'Allah (if God wills) > Samiya > > > > More than likely as YOU YOURSELF choose to. It’s the height of s

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 May 2014, at 09:15, Kim Jones wrote: On 3 May 2014, at 4:59 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: Will do as separate threads, insha'Allah (if God wills) Samiya More than likely as YOU YOURSELF choose to. It's the height of sophistry to give the Unknowable credit for your own decisions.

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread Kim Jones
On 3 May 2014, at 4:59 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: > Will do as separate threads, insha'Allah (if God wills) > Samiya More than likely as YOU YOURSELF choose to. It's the height of sophistry to give the Unknowable credit for your own decisions. Kim Kim Jones B.

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-03 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:47 AM, LizR wrote: > On 3 May 2014 06:01, Samiya Illias wrote: > >> >>> John asks: Name one scientific fact in the Bible or the Koran that you >> wouldn't expect members of a Bronze Age tribe in 1500BC to know. >> >>1. Worker honey bees who collect food are females >

RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Samiya Illias Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Evolution from Scripture Evolution and Creationism are generally considered to be opposing world

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
On 3 May 2014 06:01, Samiya Illias wrote: > >> John asks: Name one scientific fact in the Bible or the Koran that you > wouldn't expect members of a Bronze Age tribe in 1500BC to know. > >1. Worker honey bees who collect food are females >2. More than one stomach in a honey bee's body >

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread John Mikes
Telmo, I admire your self-control in 'religious' topics. Do you indeed have a well fitting definition of religious? On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > >> >> >> On 2 May 2014, at 6:05 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: >> >> >>

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 02 May 2014, at 05:35, Samiya Illias wrote: > > Evolution and Creationism are generally considered to be opposing world > views. This article attempts to prove from Scripture the existence of > humans pre-dating Adam, thereby showing tha

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
> > > John asks: Name one scientific fact in the Bible or the Koran that you wouldn't expect members of a Bronze Age tribe in 1500BC to know. 1. Worker honey bees who collect food are females 2. More than one stomach in a honey bee's body 3. Description of human embryo which can only be s

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 May 2014, at 05:35, Samiya Illias wrote: Evolution and Creationism are generally considered to be opposing world views. This article attempts to prove from Scripture the existence of humans pre-dating Adam, thereby showing that evolution is not opposed to creationism, rather it is on

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: > Proof is the domain of science. > Proof is the domain of mathematics, science can never prove that a idea is correct, it can only prove that something is wrong. > Scripture guides the way for those who believe. > Scripture, that is to say

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
PPS by the way, I think all that is being proved in that article is that holy texts tend to include a number of creation myths loosely stitched together, rather than just one. I'm fairly sure Genesis in the Bible (for example) contains at least two creation myths (I read it to check, and it certain

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
PS I meant to add, nice comment from Telmo! Wise words - avoid enlightenment, seek pleasure! I believe the Buddha did quite a bit of that, too... although he eventually succumbed to the temptations of enlightenment (I guess nobody's perfect). -- You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
1st post "This article attempts to prove from Scripture..." 2nd post "Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who believe." Do I detect some fancy footwork? Even I try not to contradict myself in consecutive posts. As for "[scripture] has much to offer to those seeking

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > > > On 2 May 2014, at 6:05 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: > > > > On 02-May-2014, at 11:03 am, meekerdb wrote: > > On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: > > Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who > believe. For tho

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Kim Jones
> On 2 May 2014, at 6:05 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: > > > >> On 02-May-2014, at 11:03 am, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: >>> Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who >>> believe. For those who believe theology to be a valid area

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
> On 02-May-2014, at 11:03 am, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: >> Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who >> believe. For those who believe theology to be a valid area of study, it is >> interesting to find that though the scriptur

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-01 Thread meekerdb
On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who believe. For those who believe theology to be a valid area of study, it is interesting to find that though the scriptures may be ancient, yet they are still relevant to modern age /

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-01 Thread Samiya Illias
Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who believe. For those who believe theology to be a valid area of study, it is interesting to find that though the scriptures may be ancient, yet they are still relevant to modern age / scientific knowledge, and thus should not be d

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-01 Thread Russell Standish
So what? If valid, one can probably prove anything from the Bible. On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 08:35:30AM +0500, Samiya Illias wrote: > Evolution and Creationism are generally considered to be opposing world > views. This article attempts to prove from Scripture the existence of > humans pre-dating Ad