- choosing either is OK. It is my
feeling that Antigen is better at anti virus stuff and is easier to work
with but scanmail provides more features. BTW I use Sybari and like it a
lot.
-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 9:52 PM
Hi,
We have been using for Scanmail for past couple of years.
Recently we are calling in Antigen - who just setup an
office here in Singapore, for a demo. The tech guy informed
us that Scanmail is adopting the same technology as Antigen,
making use of ESE in their ver 3.7.
We have just upgrade
-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen question...
Hello!
Ok, from what I can gather from you talented folks is that Antigen is the
best. Period. I think I have convinced management that I need
Hello!
Ok, from what I can gather from you talented folks is that Antigen is the
best. Period. I think I have convinced management that I need this
software. I just have a few questions.
We have two Exchange 5.5 servers in the same site. Would I have to install
Antigen on both servers
I have not used Antigen but can vouch for Trend's NeatSuite as a complete
A/V solution for your network. It covers your servers, gateway, Exchange,
and desktops. It's easily managed and Trend is very quick in responding to
new threats, often the first to make new definitions available
Are both servers connected to the internet separately? You need to protect
the one that is the internet gateway.
There is an Antigen for Exchange2000 as well as 5.5. You can download and
run the demo. It uninstalls clean if you choose not to run with it.
-Original Message-
From
-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen question...
Hello!
Ok, from what I can gather from you talented folks is that Antigen is the
best. Period. I think I have convinced
]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen question...
Are both servers connected to the internet separately? You need to protect
the one that is the internet gateway.
There is an Antigen for Exchange2000 as well as 5.5. You can download and
run
\Services\Antigen
(where is the services names)
Delete the Antigen folder and its subdirectories. by default: C:\Program
Files\Sybari Software
Check for the following files in the WINNT\system32 directory. inetfl.ocx,
SybariNavigator.dll, RemotingLayer.dll. If any of these files exist rename
them
No errors in the event log. We turned up logging to program.log in Antigen
at the request of Sybari, but nothing indicated a problem there. Where did
you find the FAQ?
Laura Bibel
Allegheny Energy: Information Services
Voice
We've been having persistent problems with Antigen, possibly since upgrading
to W2K. We have Exchange 5.5SP4 with Antigen 6.2 build 840. We've upgraded
Antigen several times (from 5.5). On occasion, the manual scan or internet
scan will stop working. We can't run a manual scan or attach
Title: RE: Antigen problems
Hi Laura,
I can't help you(NAV punk).. but there are many ANTIGEN experts online.. they maybe able to assist..
-Rick
-Original Message-
From: Bibel, Laura Y. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 7:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
I was having a problem that sounds very similar to yours Laura. Antigen had
a FAQ about it that outlined what to do to fix it. What kind of errors are
you seeing in the Event Log?
Diane
-Original Message-
From: Bibel, Laura Y. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 03
Title: RE: Moving to Antigen
Adam,
I'm
planning to do the same this weekend. I hope to follow the McAfee instructions
for removing Groupshield. I hear it's a bit of a pig. Anything I should be
warned about? I understand installing Antigen is a piece of
cake?
Thanks
Frank
-Original
Martin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 04 October
2001 22:10To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Moving to Antigen
Go
ahead and visit NAI's website and hunt down the document for manually removing
GroupShield from Exchange. Once you've accomplished that, installing Antigen
AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving to Antigen
You can find the document
for manually removing Groupshield on the CD - gse45nag.pdf - in the -
\GrpShld\Exchange\Server_v4xx directory. I believe page 52. Very simple
procedure.
So what exactly do people
not like about the NAI
So what exactly do people not like about the NAI
products?What's the worst thing you could say about an
anti-virus package?
The answers are the
same.
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
-From: Martin
Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,
October 04, 2001 5:53 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to Antigen
Oh,
believe me...It is a REAL PIECE OF WORK
-Original Message-From: Sean Martin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent
-Original Message-From: Clark, Steve
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 05 October 2001
12:57To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to
Antigen
To
start:
I
tried to contact technical support to get the hotfix7 which corrects the
problem with mutually exclusive
So let me ask what if you could start from scratch would you install
Antigen on all desktops and servers or just on the Exchange boxes?
thks,
Jonathan
-Original Message-
From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:57 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Title: RE: Moving to Antigen
It scans the IS and IMC of MS Exchange Server, nothing else. Antigen is a messaging AV solution.
-Original Message-
From: Jonathan K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving
Thanks for the education.
-Original Message-
From: Micciche Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving to Antigen
It scans the IS and IMC of MS Exchange Server, nothing else. Antigen is
a messaging AV
Trouble is when you buy a AV solution you want a
trusted package including product, support and advice. Antigen is the only one
that provides this. WIth an AV solution, when you need support you need it
yesterday. Groupshi* has lost sight of this. I believe the support for Antigen
Lets
put it this way.
I've
NEVER had to come in to work on problems after hours with Antigen. NAI and
Symantec I did. Symantec is good for everything but Exchange. NAI I wouldn't
recommend to my dearest enemies . . .
--Forrest
-Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD
Anyone try reaching Symantec Gold Support during the Nimda fiasco? The
WHOLE WEEK I got busy signals.
-Original Message-
From: STEVE BROOK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving to Antigen
True, maybe I have
l:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 05,
2001 8:41 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Moving to Antigen
Trouble is when you buy a AV solution you want a
trusted package including product, support
level. (should not that be "an
AV solution" pray??) :)
Steve
(happy to let the leasing company pay for
servicing)Brook
-Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 05 October 2001
17:41To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to
Did
you see the thread from David Duke titled Exchange Jet database error. I
bet he gets in at weekends :)
Steve
Brook
-Original Message-From: Swick, Forrest
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 05 October 2001
17:52To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to
Antigen
or any
thing remotely like a normal car
-Original Message-From: Sean Martin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday,
October 05, 2001 13:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to Antigen
Us
'American's' hardly consider a Volkswagen Passat a "Sport
Damn!
How did you know that?
Kevin
-Original Message-From: Sean
Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 05
October 2001 18:06To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:
RE: Moving to Antigen
Us
'American's' hardly consider a Volkswagen Passat a "Sports Car&qu
IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to
Antigen
or
any thing remotely like a normal car
-Original Message-From: Sean Martin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday,
October 05, 2001 13:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to Antigen
Us
'American's' hardly
their one pay phone in the support center was broken ;)
-Original Message-
From: Lunsford, Sean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 13:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving to Antigen
Anyone try reaching Symantec Gold Support during the Nimda fiasco
But
can you lease an Aston Martin???
-Original Message-From: STEVE BROOK
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 05 October 2001
18:15To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to
Antigen
True, maybe I havespent too long in this
business and got used to working with non
My key
word was Antigen. I spend more time with Exchange then my wife and kids. :-(
-Original Message-From: STEVE BROOK
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October
05, 2001 11:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:
RE: Moving to Antigen
Did
you see the thread
]
-Original Message-From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 05,
2001 12:10 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
Moving to Antigen
Damn! How did you know
that?
Kevin
-Original Message-From:
Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL
Has anyone had any experience moving from Groupshield to Antigen? Tips,
traps kind words..
NT 4 SP 6a
Ex 5.5 SP 4+
Thanks.
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584
voice
240-465-0323
Efax
A wise move. Very wise move.
How's that for kind words.
Just install Antigen and you'll finally realize that AV software doesn't
have to suck.
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject
-
From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving to Antigen
A wise move. Very wise move.
How's that for kind words.
Just install Antigen and you'll finally realize that AV software doesn't
have to suck
Go
ahead and visit NAI's website and hunt down the document for manually removing
GroupShield from Exchange. Once you've accomplished that, installing Antigen is
a piece of cake. I think you'll need your grant number to search the Prime
Support Knowledge base for the documentation. If I can
PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001
5:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving to Antigen
Go ahead and visit NAI's
website and hunt down the document for manually removing GroupShield from
Exchange. Once you've accomplished that, installing Antigen is a piece of cake.
I
-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Moving to Antigen
Go
ahead and visit NAI's website and hunt down the document for manually removing
GroupShield from Exchange. Once you've accomplished that, installing Antigen
is a piece of cake. I think you'll need your grant number to search the Prime
I went
from NAV to Antigen. So smooth I didn't have to uninstall Norton. I just stopped
the service for NAV and installed 30 day trial version. I have since installed
the licensed version and have seen many viruses caught and I love the file
filtering.
Gabe
-Original Message
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001
5:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving to Antigen
I went from NAV to
Antigen. So smooth I didn't have to uninstall Norton. I just stopped the
service for NAV and installed 30 day trial version. I have since installed the
licensed
No NAV
is actually a little bit better. Don't use it for Exchange. Use
Antigen. It's the best.
I use
NAV CE 7.51 for my servers and workstations. It pushes updates to all
users pretty well. I have to keep on top of it though since I also have it
at 2 remote offices. Even users who log
]
-Original Message-From: Clark, Steve
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001
1:23 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Moving
to Antigen
But is
NAV as much as a piece of work as NAI? That's what concerns
me.
Steve
Clark
Clark
Systems
]
cc:
10/04/2001 Subject: Moving to Antigen
01:49 PM
Title: RE: Moving to Antigen
I am a former NAI employee. I have recently changed to a new company and just migrated from Groupshield to Antigen. I have found it to be much more efficient and much less intrusive. I still run Mcafee on my Servers and Desktops, but I do believe that Antigen
: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: ANTIGEN users
In over a year I've had less than a dozen legitimate (legitimate ==
dept. of biology related) *.exe attachments that I had to go to the
trouble of delivering manually. Compared to the headache
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ANTIGEN users
We just started blocking it, and I get a copy of all the
Scanmail messages
stating which attachment was blocked. It really is amazing
to actually see
how many are not business-related. Plus, wth the new
reporting another
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ANTIGEN users
Here's a list of some of the .exe files we've blocked or
cleared out of our IS in the last few days
, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ANTIGEN users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
I've been pulling *.exe for months now. No one really complains and
if they do...I pretend to listen.
J
Title: Message
I can
only agree, Trend is the way to go.
;-B
-Original Message-From: Martin Henriksen
Sent: 20. september 2001 10:32To: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Mail Essentials or Antigen
My
money is on Trend
/MH
-Original Message-From
Title: RE: Mail Essentials or Antigen
Glad to see that others are as happy with Mail Essentials as I am. We're a company of about 40 people, and Mail Essentials works extremely well.
Does the content filtering so the junk mail doesn't get through, the disclaimers at the end of the mail
Title: RE: Mail Essentials or Antigen
Before we settled on a mail filtering software we
tested 7 of them, including Mail Essentials. We found out that their support was
essentially non-existent.
Mail Marshal has everything that they have and have
never had a limit on how many rules you can
Admin Issues
Subject: ANTIGEN users
Here are the settings for the filter to deal with the new
virus w32Nimda.a@mm mailto:w32Nimda.a@mm
Set the following filter to deal with this issue:
File Name: readme.exe
File types: all types
Action: Delete: remove contents
Nelson Aguillón
I'm looking to go
away from Norton on my Exchange Server. I've looked into Mail Essentials and
Antigen. If I'm looking to do content filtering, extension filtering, basically
blocking unwanted content from my site, which is the best product? Is there
someone around that can speak
or
Antigen
I
recommend you look at Trend too. I have noticed a pattern with
anti-virus software on Exchange while I've been on the list, and that pattern
has been success through all these bad outbreaks with both Antigen and
Trend.
-Original Message-From: Gabe Austin
Title: Message
I'm
a Mail Marshal fan too, but why keep away from Mail
Essentials?
Simon
-Original Message-From: m2web
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2001 12:53
p.m.To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Mail
Essentials or Antigen
Also take
Sybari Software
-Original Message-
From: Michael Brubaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Who makes antigen?
Michael Brubaker
Vice President Tel: (321
Sybari
www.sybari.com
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Michael Brubaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Who makes antigen?
Michael Brubaker
Vice
What is the pricetag on antigen?
Michael Brubaker
Vice President Tel: (321) 631-8073 Fax: (321) 632-8769 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IICwww.iictel.com http://www.iictel.com
Sybari
-Original Message-
From: Michael Brubaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 September 2001 15:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Who makes antigen?
Michael Brubaker
Vice President Tel: (321) 631-8073 Fax: (321
Admin Issues
Asunto: RE: Antigen
Sybari
-Original Message-
From: Michael Brubaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 September 2001 15:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Antigen
Who makes antigen?
Michael
I am trying to do a good eval of this program. Does anyone have a list to
set up file filtering?
Thanks,
Joseph L. Heaton, MCSE
NT Administrator
FDI Consulting, Inc.
Sacramento, CA 95815
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
If you're just doing an eval, start with the most common:
.exe
.vbs
.bat
.js
etc.
Send yourself some of these files from an outside address and witness
Antigen's unrelenting power.
You could also
Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Here you go my little friend
VB;ASX;ADE;ADP;BAS;BAT;BIN;CHM;CMD;COM;CPL;CRT;DLL;EXE;HIV;HLP;HTA;INF;I
NS;
ISP;JS;JSE;JTD;MSC;MSI;MSP;MST;OCX;OFT;OVL;PCD;PIF;PL;PLX;SCR;SCT;SH;SHB
;
SHS;SYS;VBE;VBS;VSS;VST;VXD;WSC;WSF;WSH;
-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin
Good one!
-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
If you've got time, you could calculate every 2 and 3 character combination
possible using all 26 letters
ARRGGGH!!! Youare a meanie
.exe
.com
.vbs
.bat
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Here you go my little friend
VB;ASX;ADE;ADP;BAS;BAT;BIN
Here is the basic list I also have. The other one was the extended list.
vbs;shs;js;com;bat;cmd;pif;scr;chm;VB;EXE
-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
No way!
I didn't put in .JPG, MP3, AVI, etc
Just the crappy file types
-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
ARRGGGH!!! Youare a meanie
.exe
.com
.vbs
:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
No way!
I didn't put in .JPG, MP3, AVI, etc
Just the crappy file types
-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE
Thank you all for your responses. This is COOOLLL!!
Joe
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Here is the basic list I also have. The other one
: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
Thank you all for your
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-Original Message-
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Antigen
*.*
-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September
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