man.demon.nl
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:46 AM
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Don't know why your are complaining about your dirt cheap fuel prices
Average price for Jun 30 source:
http://www.unitedconsumers.com/link.asp?m=t&c
roach.com
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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:51 AM
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You sure you don't mean the 4.0 liter _IN-LINE_ six?
:P
-sc
>
You sure you don't mean the 4.0 liter _IN-LINE_ six?
:P
-sc
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> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
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From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:ewittersh...@aasmnet.org]
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Yes they do. Check it out. http://www.jeep.com
Wittersheim [mailto:ewittersh...@aasmnet.org]
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> Yes they do. Check it out. http://www.jeep.com/crd/
>
>
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Yes they do. Check it out. http://www.jeep.com/crd/
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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:45 AM
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The test I read was using a
HP is rated at 215 I think for the GC CRD.
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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
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Very cool... although the estimated 18
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> I bet this could have been the Jeep power plants. I drove the Grand
> Cherokee with the diesel and the 5.7 Hemi.
.
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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:41 AM
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Man, I'd love to have that plant in mid-size SUV.
There are few attractive small di
> the lumps now has twin turbo :-)
>
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> Man, I'd love to
:-)
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Man, I'd love to have that plant in mid-size SUV.
There are few attractive small diesels in the US, but
Oh, and torque approaching 2X the HP rating makes me horny.
-sc
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> From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
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> 5 Cylinder
> Direct Injection Turbo Diesel with Intercooler
> ECU Controlled
> 122 bhp (120 PS, 90 kW) at 4200 rpm
> 300 Nm (221 lb.ft) of torque at 1950 rpm
&
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Don't know why your are complaining about your dirt cheap fuel prices
Average price for Jun 30 source:
http://www.unitedconsumers.com/link.asp?m=t&c=waartankenbanner.asp?regio=8&c
t=a&s=0
Fo
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What's the specs on a TD5 power plant?
-sc
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> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:02 AM
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zonden: dinsdag 30 juni 2009 6:55
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Shessh - paid $AU 1.12 ltr this morning,(cheapest day of the week for petrol
in Brisbane) there's about 3.8 ltr to the US Gal which is about $AU 4.59 US
Gal. Taking
idea !
Brian
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Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 1:50 AM
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Mini cooper _DIESEL_??
I wish the US would get it's act togeth
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> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Micheal Espinola
> Jr wrote:
>>> http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx
>>
>> There is something very wrong with the coloring of that
It looks awesome from here in Tulsa! :-)
TVK
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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:11 PM
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Micheal
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Micheal Espinola
Jr wrote:
>> http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx
>
> There is something very wrong with the coloring of that map.
> Something very very wrong...
I imagine it looks fine if you live in Oklahoma. ;-)
I assume the sharp boundaries alon
_
>
> From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:44 PM
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>
>
> $3.059 Regular
>
> $2.859 Diesel
>
>
>
> East Bay (walnut Cre
http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx
;)
From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:44 PM
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$3.059 Regular
$3.059 Regular
$2.859 Diesel
East Bay (walnut Creek) California
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:53 PM
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$2.59 Regular
$2.67 Diesel
gt; > From: bounce-8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:
> bounce-8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Ben Scott
> > Sent: 26 June 2009 16:47
>
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Since we're on the subject of fuel efficiency, I was curious what
gas/diesel prices are in your area.
Reg. Unleaded = $2.89
Diesel = $3.29
Anchorage, Alaska
- Sean
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009
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$2.59 Regular
$2.67 Diesel
Southern Indiana
From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:36 PM
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Since we're on the subje
In the west burbs of Chicago Diesel is a bit cheaper than regular gas
the last time I looked.
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:51 PM
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Reg. 2.63 at
$2.59 Regular
$2.67 Diesel
Southern Indiana
From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:36 PM
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Since we're on the subject of
Reg. 2.63 at Costco
Not sure about diesel right now
Northwest Indiana near Chicago
From: Sean Martin
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:35:56 PM
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Since we're o
lt-software.com
>> > [mailto:bounce-8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Ben
>> > Scott
>> > Sent: 26 June 2009 16:47
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>> >
never did that, honestly).
> >
> > /loves fuel bill.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: bounce-8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:
> bounce-8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Ben Scott
> > Sent: 26 June 2009 16:
6:47
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>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
>>> Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
>>> yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear. :-)
>
&
rom: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:40 PM
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>
> I've made several trips in my 2002 Kia between my home near Seattle
> and destinations in Eastern
What's the specs on a TD5 power plant?
-sc
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> From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:johnel...@wirral.gov.uk]
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:02 AM
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>
-software.com [mailto:bounce-
> 8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Ben Scott
> Sent: 26 June 2009 16:47
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>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
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I've made several trips in my 2002 Kia between my home near Seattle
and destinations in Eastern WA (minimum trip time, 4 hours, maximum 7
hrs) at sustained speeds over 70mph, usually pushing 80. I still get
30mph, and RPM around 4500. I love the little beast,
Subject: RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)
Makes me so proud of my ~60MPG @ 70MPH in my new Mini Cooper Diesel (and ~40MPG
@ 105MPH, but I never did that, honestly).
/loves fuel bill.
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From: bounce-8579465-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Of Ben
Scott
Sent: 26 June 2009 16:47
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
>> Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
>> yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear. :-)
On
I've made several trips in my 2002 Kia between my home near Seattle
and destinations in Eastern WA (minimum trip time, 4 hours, maximum 7
hrs) at sustained speeds over 70mph, usually pushing 80. I still get
30mph, and RPM around 4500. I love the little beast, even if
acceleration is dismal, and the
6, 2009 1:59 PM
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No gauges. The only thing I'm really missing is a boost gauge. It would
be nice to have a transmission temp gauge easily viewable rather than
having to cycle through the on-board o
mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
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>
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>
>
> Thanks. It has been a great truck. I got a SuperChips programmer for it. It
> doesn't p
I had).
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:03 AM
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Thanks, I do too ;) It's actually somewhat rare to see an Orange
Xterra, Nissan only ma
, June 26, 2009 12:47 PM
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Thanks. It has been a great truck. I got a SuperChips programmer for it.
It doesn't pull quite as much power out of it as some of the other
chip/programmers available, but it
even M. Caesare wrote:
> Nice rig.
>
>
>
> I did love my chipped F350 w7.3 liter PowerStroke.
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 12:30 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>
Nice rig.
I did love my chipped F350 w7.3 liter PowerStroke.
-sc
From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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All joking aside, I do envy the
Honda Odyssey here...can hit 32mpg with seven adults and AC running at
80mpg!
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Sean Martin wrote:
> All joking aside, I do envy the efficiency of cars capable of 20+ MPG. I've
> got a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500HD, Duramax, 6 speed allison transmission (I use
> it to pul
All joking aside, I do envy the efficiency of cars capable of 20+ MPG. I've
got a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500HD, Duramax, 6 speed allison transmission (I use
it to pull a 38ft 5th wheel). Thanks to updated emmissions regulations put
into effect the second half of 2007, I'm lucky if I see 12-13 MPG. Previo
t when it's wetwant
to guess which vehicle I like better?
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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: June-26-09 11:47 AM
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scott
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
>> Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
>> yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear. :-)
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola
Jr wrote:
> I believe it. I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+. I've
> never seen sav
ally liked the second one better. It was nice to sit back and watch a
> blow out against someone else for once. J
>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:45 AM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Americ
Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:26 AM
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Yup, exactly!! I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook
wr
Thanks, I do too ;) It's actually somewhat rare to see an Orange Xterra,
Nissan only made them in that color 1 year - 2003. I figure I've got
another 5-6 years on driving this one. My last Nissan was a 1995 Pathfinder
that I put over 220K miles on before I finally had it pried out of my hands
(m
il.com]
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Yup, if you're at Wolf Creek the first week of Feb. 2010 you will run
into this Texan.
Honestly, I loved seeing Elway finally win a Superbowl in 98, especia
Nice! I love that color on the Xterra!
--
ME2
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
> Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years. I think
> they are ugly. Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange. I can
> always find my vehicle in a cr
That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair...BOOM!
Shook
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM
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Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to
Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years. I think
they are ugly. Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange. I can
always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot. LOL
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
;
> There’s such a group hug between Texas and Colorado. I run into you guys on
> the slopes all the time. J
>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:30 AM
>
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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rcrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
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Yup, exactly!! I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook
wrote:
com]
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>
>
>
> Yup, exactly!! I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, An
Sherry you're a Denver Bronco's fan. I never would have guessed. J
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:26 AM
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Yup, exactly!! I also have a
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>
>
> Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years. I think
> they are ugly. Personally I love my Nissan Xterr
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> I believe it. I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+. I've
> never seen savings at 55.
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
&
I believe it. I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+. I've
never seen savings at 55.
--
ME2
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martin wrote:
>>> Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
>>
>> No offense, but I'
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martin wrote:
>> Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
>
> No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
> other than "conservatively". :-)
Heh. :)
It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination,
No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
other than "conservatively". :-)
- Sean
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Maglinger, Paul
> wrote:
> > I just bought a Subaru a few months ago. I love that car.
>
> I bo
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:
> I just bought a Subaru a few months ago. I love that car.
I bought my Forrester new in May 2000 and it now has 185K miles on
it. I haven't had any surprising problems. The clutch was replaced
last year, but at 160K it's not like it owe
rofl
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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A slightly used Subaru!
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Eric Wittersheim
Maybe so. Around here they're hard to find.
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From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:ewittersh...@aasmnet.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:15 PM
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I just found 56 in my local
pbell, Rob
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That "W" engine of theirs is an interesting piece of design and engineering
work.
-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...
That "W" engine of theirs is an interesting piece of design and engineering
work.
-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:04 PM
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cvl.com]
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> Agreed. I started wondering why I was paying for a car that wore out after
> 100K even when I religeously followed the scheduled m
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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:47 PM
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This is also true, along with the insane unions they suffered with and
the financial overhead they represente
:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:47 PM
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This is also true, along with the insane unions they suffered with and
the financial overhead they represented.
All were factors, and all tog
MIcheal, what kind of TV do you have, I'm looking to buy not inferior as
well. ;-) (but serious too)
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to disagree. I believe its that they dont design and assemble
> cars well enough (as a whole) is
This is also true, along with the insane unions they suffered with and
the financial overhead they represented.
All were factors, and all together killed Detroit:
Lack of vision and innovation
Insane union overhead
Outsourcing of too many functions (which I actually consider part
o
I have to disagree. I believe its that they dont design and assemble
cars well enough (as a whole) is what got them into trouble. As an
example, many cars manufactured in the past 5 years still only being
good in a straight line with inadequate braking and cornering
abilities in comparison to the
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