Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Damon Lynch
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 03:54, Chuck Burns wrote: > We never SIGNED kyoto, because it was nothing more than a ploy to LOOK GOOD to > ecologists. The WORST polluting countries are the 3rd world countries with > NO environmental protection agencies, and the Kyoto treaty left them alone, > so, of c

Re: [expert] APIC enabled or no boot

2003-01-29 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 01:02:23 -0500 "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, its odd here. My 2 sons and I played a 3 way Tribes 2 game for > about 2-3 hours today with no problems. > > Went back in this evening (nothing added or changed) and it crashed > out hard after about 15 mins. G

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread logic7
According to accounts from different areas of the world, we didn't enter the war until we were attacked. I've heard this from folks from several european countries. Our history books would have you believe that we were the heros of ww2, in fact the consensus seems to be that Russia had the biggest

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Damon Lynch
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 06:29, Mark Weaver wrote: > and you know this how? please...proof of this would be interesting. Check the mainstream human rights websites :-) Even if American personal are not directly involved, they know full well what happens when they hand prisoners over to their comrad

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread mathews . 5
I would put forth, that if Bush collected the majority of the electoral votes, that Occam's razor would tell us that he also collected the majority of the popular votes since the electoral votes are based upon the popular vote. Consider this case: A large state such as California had 1,000,000 v

[expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Hi, after having started one of the longest running OT thread of this list (by numbers of postings) I'd like to turn to a not so important but more OnTopic issue - my unability to install 9.1Beta2. Downloaded both ISOs, checked the md5sums, burned the CDs, again checked the md5sums, done. Booted

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Jane
Title: RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? One of the beautiful things about America & the freedoms within - filing for bankruptcy protection. . . . Now that's madness! -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Bornath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:50

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would put forth, that if Bush collected the majority of the electoral > votes, that Occam's razor would tell us that he also collected the majority > of the popular votes since the electoral votes are based upon the popular > vote.

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Todd Lyons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:49:36AM +0100 : > Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a > future for MandrakeSoft. > After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and > the world as we

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? The sun will come outtomorrow, bet your bottom dollar...

2003-01-29 Thread Damon Lynch
On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 06:51, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: > How many citizens in Iran and Afghanistan are or were truly happy with the > fundamentalist governments they have or had? I'm sorry to say it gets much worse. In the 1930's and 1940s, in the North West Frontier Province of what is

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:34 pm, logic7 wrote: > According to accounts from different areas of the world, we didn't enter > the war until we were attacked. I've heard this from folks from several > european countries. Our history books would have you believe that we were > the heros of ww2, i

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Todd Lyons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Franki wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 02:48:37PM +0800 : > get a grip people > I don't know much about iraq.. none of us really do.. and thats the point, Take it offlist or people will start getting booted from the list. I don't have the capabili

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Last word for me on this topic

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:09 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:14 pm, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: > > of US citizens with contrary views to those of the court-appointed US > > president and his apologists - I count s

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:09, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: > Guys, PLEASE! Uncalled for, ugly, and way too knee-jerk U.S.A.-conservative. Oh but there's been absolutely no leftist socialist knee jerking here, has there? Not getting too hot for you, is it, praedor? > Let's please cut the pers

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread et
> > Take it offlist or people will start getting booted from the list. I > don't have the capability to do it right now, but I will request it if > this thread continues too much longer. > don't do that, don't even threaten it. these are very helpful folks that feel a need to discuss this. besi

Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:24 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote: > I've been attempting to set up an enviroment that will let a user use > sftp, but not allow them to 'walk' the rest of the system. > > I've tried _numerous_ different variations (created a chr

Re: [expert] OT crap about Iraq, etc

2003-01-29 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For my part I apologize for letting myself getting involved and helping to stretch this stupid thread beyond its useful lifetime. In order to prevent getting bumped off the list, I promise to hold my keys and respond never again to any portion of t

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 14:34 -0500, logic7 wrote: > According to accounts from different areas of the world, we didn't enter the > war until we were attacked. I've heard this from folks from several european > countries. Our history books would have you believe that we were the heros > of ww2, in

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 29 2003 1:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *snip* > Consider this case: > A large state such as California had 1,000,000 votes cast. After counting > 750,000 ballots, Bush is leading by 300,000 ballots. California, under the > electoral vote system can stop counting now as those rema

Re: [st_barszus@gmx.de: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?]

2003-01-29 Thread Todd Lyons
Dallam Wych wrote on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:57:55PM + : > On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:34:31AM -0500, Sascha Noyes wrote: > > The only reason that he posted privately (by error) is that you have got a > > "reply to" set while discussing on a mailing list. > I don't think so, I think it is a kmai

Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-29 Thread James Sparenberg
Mark, Been using it here for a while in it's most basic setup just to keep marketing people from poking around my server *grin*. I've also found vsftpd to also be nice in this respect. Both seem to have tha advantage of locking down the user. Downside is that they use the system commands (ls

Re: [expert] OT - This Damn List

2003-01-29 Thread James Sparenberg
I believe he's refering to sylpheed-claws. On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 10:06, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 01:13 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:57:31 + > > > > Daryl Johnson <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 15:55 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: > > >(1280x1024 generic flatscreen) and claimed I had a GeForce2 card. I > >changed that to Generic GeForce4 and marked XFree 4.x.x. The installer > >showed an error and claimed that some files in /mnt/usr/... were > >missing. Only part of th

Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here

2003-01-29 Thread James Sparenberg
Wobo, A dirty method for getting multi-boot to work. (I've got QA boxes running up to 9 different versions of Linux so this had to be done quite often some of them (SuSe!) don't play nice.) I go through the install and let lilo do it's thing normally. Yes this does result in only being able t

Re: [expert] syncing Palm m515 with J-Pilot

2003-01-29 Thread David Robertson
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 10:15 pm, Russell W. Behne wrote: > On pressing sync button on cradle: > Jan 29 16:12:51 behne kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, > assigned device number 18 Jan 29 16:12:52 behne kernel: usbserial.c: Palm > 4.0 converter detected Jan 29 16:12:52 behne kernel

[expert] Highpoint HTP372 not detected under Mdk9.0

2003-01-29 Thread Mark Stewart
So I'm a bit disappointed. I finally installed 9.0 on my monster box (nforce board, athlon 2000) expecting that, as reported by various mandrake users, that the Highpoint HPT 372 controller would be detected and I could use it as an extra IDE controller. Alas, HardDrake doesn't appear to have a clu

Re: [expert] A twist on NAT/Connection Sharing

2003-01-29 Thread Cokey de Percin
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 08:16, civileme wrote: > OK could someone point me at the right document to figure this out? I will, > of course, share the answer back. > > I have a friend who MUST remain concealed and who has recently gotten DSL. > The DSL service provided gives only Static IPs, and t

Re: [expert] Highpoint HTP372 not detected under Mdk9.0

2003-01-29 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Mark Stewart wrote: So I'm a bit disappointed. I finally installed 9.0 on my monster box (nforce board, athlon 2000) expecting that, as reported by various mandrake users, that the Highpoint HPT 372 controller would be detected and I could use it as an extra IDE controller. Alas, HardDrake doesn't

Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here

2003-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 12:31 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: > Wobo, > > A dirty method for getting multi-boot to work. (I've got QA boxes > running up to 9 different versions of Linux so this had to be done quite > often some of them (SuSe!) don't play nice.) > > I go through the install and

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 12:12, et wrote: > > > > Take it offlist or people will start getting booted from the list. I > > don't have the capability to do it right now, but I will request it if > > this thread continues too much longer. > > > don't do that, don't even threaten it. these are very hel

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread et
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 07:12 pm, Jack Coates wrote: > On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 12:12, et wrote: > > > Take it offlist or people will start getting booted from the list. I > > > don't have the capability to do it right now, but I will request it if > > > this thread continues too much longer. >

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Damian Gatabria
> > Except when it comes to people that are not here, like the President of > the United States. Better to talk in insults about people when they > can't respond or see your emails directly, eh? ...Is Bush your uncle or something? -- -- I don't want Windows t

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Damian Gatabria
> > For the same reason however, I feel strongly that many people would die > needlessly by the hands of dictators and terrorist regimes if the US did > retract, similar to the deaths of those that have occurred already under ..OH! That guy is going to kill his neighbour! Quick! Let's nuke them bo

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 09:01, Chuck Burns wrote: > The decision for war is with Saddam. According to Hans Blix, Iraq has NOT > allowed U2 Flyovers, has HIDDEN documents, etc.. THEY HAVE HAD 12 YEARS to > COMPLY with the UN Eunuchs.. Now.. Do you think if we give him more time, do > you REALLY t

Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-29 Thread Dianne Marie Montesa
hi i use wu-ftpd (2.6.1 currently) which doesnt allow users to go beyond the directories they are allowed to. They are restricted to their ftp dir. on my setup, the user's shell on /etc/passwd is set to /bin/false and the home dir set to the ftp directory. Of course, /bin/false should be added

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
Fortunately that happens to include all your text as well; into the stupid category that you conveniently created. On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:46, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: > I beg your all pardon but I could not keep my fingers away from the > keyboard after such a stupid things written bel

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Mark Weaver
Sascha Noyes wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 09:54 am, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 8:43 am, tarvid wrote: *snip* Bush chooses internationalism when it suits him. He scuttled Kyoto, ABM and the Biological weapons protocols and ignores the Viena and Geneva conventions. So,

Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-29 Thread J.P. Pasnak
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 29, 2003 14:38 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:24 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote: > >>I've been attempting to set up an enviroment that will let a user > >> use sftp, but not allow them to

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 18:56, Robert Goshko wrote: > New flick, coming to a theatre of war soon: > >The Bush Administration > In Association With > The Other Bush Administration > Presents > > Gulf Wars__ > E P I S O D E I I > Clone Of The Attack >

Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread James Sparenberg
This is class!... hats off to the author now just to clean up the monitor after I spit out my dinner laughing. *grin* James On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 16:19, Damian Gatabria wrote: > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 18:56, Robert Goshko wrote: > > New flick, coming to a theatre of war soon: > > > >

[expert] One hell of a thread, and the plugger...

2003-01-29 Thread J. Craig Woods
Just wanted to thank all who shared their views. It was most interesting. It takes all kinds to make the "world go around". Winston Churchill once said, "Democracy is the worst form of government in the world, except for all other forms". Now back to business. Since the recent upgrades to 9.0 m

[expert] packet forwarding unstable

2003-01-29 Thread Bryce Conner
I'm using a crossover cable to test Mandrake 9.0 as a packet forwarding host, connected to a cable modem. Eventually I plan to run more computers through it, but I can't seem to solve a problem I'm having with forwarding. It seems that Mandrake starts to drop packets from eth0 to eth1, and everyt

[expert] Updates with non-mdk packages - e.g. snort

2003-01-29 Thread stefmit
Hello - all experts: What is your recommended/preferred/used methodology for upgrading previously installed mdk packages, with latest non-mdk rpms or even tar balls, with minimal or no effect on existing conifguration and workings? Example: I have 1.8.7 snort, pre-installed from the mdk packagi

Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-29 Thread J.P. Pasnak
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On January 29, 2003 21:11 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote: > On January 29, 2003 14:38 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: > > Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: > > > On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:24 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote: > > I could be wrong on this but I do believe Pure-f

Re: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-29 Thread Mark Weaver
Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:24 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote: I've been attempting to set up an enviroment that will let a user use sftp, but not allow them to 'walk' the rest of the system. I've tried _numerous_ different variations (created a chrooted user, using r

Re: [expert] Memory problem? Memtest86 question

2003-01-29 Thread David E. Fox
> Are you indicating that 9.0 doesn't support anything other than ext2 or > ext3? If so, Where's the BEEF? Do you have any Documentation available? Mandrake 9.0 supports reiserfs. Personally, I've been using reiserfs on all my partitions save one since roughly version 8.0 or 8.1. I've yet to e

[expert] modules

2003-01-29 Thread Jorris Graad
Can someone tell me how to compile and install modules. Please explain it step by step because I'm not an expert at this things. Ivo. _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/br

RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
I have just two more comments on this thread... 1. Germans are not cowards. - They are mostly ashamed of the whole "Hitler" thing and what to guard against it ever happening again. (perhaps they are even paranoid of it happening again.)ie to learn from it. and that is as it should be. - Most peo

RE: [expert] sftp and chroot

2003-01-29 Thread Franki
So would I... I had to give out two logins recently, and would have loved to be able to lock them in their directory.. I was hoping Todd would respond with some wisdom on this one.. :-) rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Praedor

Re: [expert] 9.1Beta2 - no way to install it here

2003-01-29 Thread Mark Weaver
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Hi, after having started one of the longest running OT thread of this list (by numbers of postings) I'd like to turn to a not so important but more OnTopic issue - my unability to install 9.1Beta2. Downloaded both ISOs, checked the md5sums, burned the CDs, again checked t

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