In a message dated 8/20/06 7:40:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:>> ---
MDixon wrote:> >> > Presidents always have to follow the
law. However the question is, is the
In a message dated 8/20/06 9:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 8/20/06 7:07:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> > MD, you recount these extreme measures
by past presidents > as if they were all justified. I'm no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 8/20/06 3:11:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> What was *not* fine was your misrepresentation of it
> as supporting WARRANTLESS wiretapping, which it most
> certainly did not.
>
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 8/20/06 3:34:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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> Not that I've seen, beyond the bogus claim that
> getting a warrant involved "silly red tape."
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> Then you haven't read all the
In a message dated 8/20/06 9:17:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Except
that in every poll I'm aware of that askedabout WARRANTLESS wiretapping
explicitly, a majorityDID NOT approve of it.
The polls you sited either failed to mention the calls involved in the N
In a message dated 8/20/06 9:18:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I* had
to dig up the administration's rationalefor not wanting to have to
get warrants. YOu didn'tsay a word about it other than the silly "silly
redtape" comment.
I did later
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 8/20/06 7:40:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> , "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 8/20/06 7:07:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> MD, you recount these extreme measures by past presidents
> as if they were all justified. I'm not ready to assume they
> were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 9:17:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> Except that in every poll I'm aware of that asked
> about WARRANTLESS wiretapping explicitly, a majority
> DID NOT approve of it
In a message dated 8/20/06 9:32:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:>> > In a message dated 8/20/06
7:40:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:>
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In a message dated 8/20/06 9:32:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bullshit. If it were President Hillary Clintondoing warrantless
wiretapping, they could hearyou right-wingers screeching about it as
faraway as Pluto.
Yes, Hillary did get her hands on the FBI fil
In a message dated 8/20/06 9:38:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After
the Republicans had lied up a storm about thenature of the program, you
mean.
What lies specifically did the republicans tell about the nature of
the program?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>In a message dated 8/20/06 7:07:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>MD, you recount these extreme measures by past presidents
>as if they were all justified. I'm not ready to assume they
>were. For example, I've encountered many citation
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>In a message dated 8/20/06 9:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>In a message dated 8/20/06 7:07:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>>MD, you recount these extreme measures by past presidents
>>as if
authfriend wrote:
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>
>>In a message dated 8/20/06 7:07:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>>MD, you recount these extreme measures by past presidents
>>as if they were all justified. I'm not read
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 8/20/06 9:38:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> After the Republicans had lied up a storm about the
> nature of the program, you mean.
>
> What lies specifically did the repub
Rick Archer wrote:
>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2063667852598904740&hl=en
>
Yup, that's the way they drive in India alright. I had a lot of fun
playing videos to folks of that kind of driving from my trip there. I
also have some good footage of them "playing chicken" on their so-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem is that the FISA issue is too complicated for the average
> American and most of those polled probably really didn't understand
> the issue.
Largely because the administration and its supporters
were doing t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
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> >
> > In a message dated 8/20/06 9:38:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > jstein@ writes:
> >
> > After the Republicans had lied up a storm about the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:
> >NOBODY (except maybe Bhairitu) objects to
> >wiretapping with judicial oversight. We've
> >been doing that forever.
> >
> Where did I say that?
Don't know that you did; I just thought if anybody
wo
Did i miss something? Ah, what the hell does the Jonbenet murder
have to do with FFL?
May be that point here comes close to FF or FFL, about habeaus
corpus. An editor of a FF newspaper then (19th century) was
arrested, sent off to prison in the DC area and NY and later
released in that late c
Off the meds again, Doug?
Sal
On Aug 20, 2006, at 10:16 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> Rick Archer seems too damn permissive and liberal as owner and
> moderator of FFL and should kick some of these imposters off of FFL
> for flooding it with such unrelated to FFL shit. Flex some muscle
> Rick and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote:
> > >
> > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-
> 2063667852598904740&hl=en
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>
authfriend wrote:
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>authfriend wrote:
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>>>NOBODY (except maybe Bhairitu) objects to
>>>wiretapping with judicial oversight. We've
>>>been doing that forever.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Where did I say that?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://video.google.com/videoplay?
> docid=204179715777164552&q=guru+dev&hl=en
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Where did that come from?
To subscribe, send a message to:
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Or go to:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- Rick Archer wrote:
> >
> > It may be someone¹s karma to suffer, but
> > we don¹t have to choose to deliver
> > it to them. On the contrary, we can make
> > it our karma to relieve them of suffering.
>
> On
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > >
> > > It may be someone¹s karma to suffer, but
> > > we don¹t have to choose to deliver
> > > it to them. On the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 7:07:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> MD, you recount these extreme measures by past presidents
> as if they were all justified. I'm not ready to assume they
> were
In a message dated 8/20/06 10:45:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well,
yeah, but at least he would be obeying the
law
You don't know that he isn't. You have the opinion of one very liberal
judge playing politics with the matter.
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In a message dated 8/20/06 10:36:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My
arguments have been against Bush being above the law not that wiretaps are
wrong. These laws must be used in a sensible way or we have lost
everything that was fought for in the last 230
ye
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 10:45:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> Well, yeah, but at least he would be obeying the law
>
>
>
>
> You don't know that he isn't. You have the opinion of on
Doug
Thank you S much for saying this.
This group, FFLife, is essentially nearly meaningles.
A few people have come over from alt.med.transcendental and have
clogged it with hundreds of worthless posts on a daily basis, nearly
none of which have anything at all to do with either Fair
In a message dated 8/20/06 9:56:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The
problem is that the FISA issue is too complicated for the average American
and most of those polled probably really didn't understand the issue. That
65% might have a different opinion if br
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick Archer seems too damn permissive and liberal as owner and
> moderator of FFL and should kick some of these imposters off of FFL
> for flooding it with such unrelated to FFL shit. Flex some muscle
> Rick and
In a message dated 8/20/06 10:03:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What
lies specifically did the republicans tell about the nature> of the
program?That it was all perfectly legal, that Bush had
beenauthorized to do it by the resolution on the use offorce in I
In a message dated 8/20/06 10:08:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh,
yeah, and the biggie, of course, that having toget a warrant kept them
from being able to act onthreats quickly
enough.
And unless you know exactly how the operation works you don't know tha
In a message dated 8/20/06 10:08:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The
problem is that the FISA issue is too complicated for the average >
American and most of those polled probably really didn't understand >
the issue.Largely because the administration and it
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Finally-someone said something / Kudos to Doug Hamilton
on 8/20/06 11:02 PM, chaim_laib at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have often wished I could simply delete this entire group and let it
start over and to limit the conversation to meaningful FFLIfe materal.
And to l
In a message dated 8/20/06 10:58:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You
don't know that he isn't. You have the opinion of one very liberal judge
> playing politics with the matter.>??? Defacto, laws
are to be obeyed until a judge rules
OTHERWISE.
Bush isn't c
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL, and the Jonbenet murderer?
on 8/20/06 10:16 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Rick Archer seems too damn permissive and liberal as owner and
> moderator of FFL and should kick some of these imposters off of FFL
> for flooding it with such unrela
In a message dated 8/20/06 10:15:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>NOBODY (except maybe Bhairitu) objects to> >wiretapping
with judicial oversight. We've> >been doing that forever.>
>> Where did I say that?Don't know that you did; I just
thought if anybodywou
I certainly agree with Doug that most of the messages in this forum
have nothing to do with the TMO, and I think that most of what
sparaig, authfriend, and some others post is total drivel.
However, I am against censorship of these people in the forum. [The
other extreme to what is happening h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 9:56:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> The problem is that the FISA issue is too complicated for the
average
> American and most of those polled probably really didn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 10:45:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Well, yeah, but at least he would be obeying the law
>
> You don't know that he isn't. You have the opinion of one very
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 10:36:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> My arguments have been against Bush being above the law not that
> wiretaps are wrong. These laws must be used in a sensible w
Correction: In my previous message, I meant to say "that _many_ of
the messages in this forum have nothing to do with the TMO..."
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I certainly agree with Doug that most of the messages in this
forum
> have n
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 10:03:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> What lies specifically did the republicans tell about the nature
> > of the program?
>
> That it was all perfectly legal, that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 10:15:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >NOBODY (except maybe Bhairitu) objects to
> > >wiretapping with judicial oversight. We've
> > >been doing that forever.
> > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 10:08:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> The problem is that the FISA issue is too complicated for the
average
> > American and most of those polled probably really d
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It may be someone¹s karma to suff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 8/20/06 10:08:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Oh, yeah, and the biggie, of course, that having to
> get a warrant kept them from being able to act on
> threats quickly enou
In a message dated 8/20/06 11:46:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And
don't you think the Democratic party would have tweaked that poll by the
> Washington Post by emphasizing warrantless wiretaps in another poll
after > May 11, if they thought they could hav
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I certainly agree with Doug that most of the messages in this forum
> have nothing to do with the TMO, and I think that most of what
> sparaig, authfriend, and some others post is total drivel.
Folks might j
In a message dated 8/21/06 12:14:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And
unless you know exactly how the operation works you> don't know that
isn't true.They can start wiretapping *immediately*,
withoutgetting a warrant first. That's in the FISA
law.
And as fa
In a message dated 8/21/06 12:03:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In a message dated 8/20/06 10:15:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> > >NOBODY (except maybe
Bhairitu) objects to> > >wiretapping with judicial oversight.
We've>
"Just learn to be selective with it and skip posters who, in your
experience, waste your time."
This is why this group is such a blast. Actual opened mindedness, not
just lipservice.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 8/20/06 11:02 PM, chaim_laib
Shit Spraig, you get more real by the minute. That sounds like a lot
to deal with.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
wrote:
> >
> > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > >
> > > It may be someone¹s karma t
First of all I dig your posts. You seem sincerely interested in the
TM movement . You also seem more than open minded about TMO's flaws
and I appreciate that. I am guilty of throwing the Jonbenet murder
story up here because I like to hear this group's take on events. I
am not a spiritual person
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