[FairfieldLife] 'Google Earth get intimate...'

2007-07-24 Thread Robert Gimbel
July 21, 2007 9:27 PM PDT Google acquires ImageAmerica to boost mapping Posted by Stephen Shankland Google has acquired ImageAmerica, a company that builds high-resolution cameras and uses them to take aerial photographs. (Credit: Google)

[FairfieldLife] Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Right, but Byron Katie is a Neo-Advaitin, and if we go too far into that realm, there's no karma, no people, no suffering (in fact, nothing!). Nope - Buddhism as a whole has more compassion. While I agree

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Samadhi by Shr Chinmoy'

2007-07-24 Thread george_deforest
i wonder if it is fair or accurate to translate the language of Sri Chinmoy using Maharishi's language of his Seven States of Consciousness? could it be, that savikalpa samadhi is TC (transcendental consciousness); nirvikalpa samadhi is CC (Cosmic C'nes); and sahaja samadhi is UC (Unity, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush appoints himself dictator in case of catastrophic event

2007-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: You'd

[FairfieldLife] Re: My experience with the awakened Kundalini

2007-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note I am not being a parakeet when I tell you that my experience is it is moving me faster to enlightenment. Let me put it this way, I feel this very stronly. It is giving experience of the things I hear are the signs of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread george_deforest
TurquoiseB wrote: I'm interested in hearing the fans of advaita (neo- or not) or Byron Katie explain to me why what seems like a contradiction to me isn't one. The desire in this case is to have no expectations of others in terms of their behavior, and to see them as other aspects of

[FairfieldLife] Re: My experience with the awakened Kundalini

2007-07-24 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: Note I am not being a parakeet when I tell you that my experience is it is moving me faster to enlightenment. Let me put it this way, I feel this very

[FairfieldLife] 'Walking the Faith Line with Eboo Patel'

2007-07-24 Thread Robert Gimbel
uthors Walking the Faith Line with Eboo Patel Talk of the Nation, July 19, 2007 ยท Author Eboo Patel talks about the hate and rejection he sees in many young religious extremists, and why ignoring the faith line that divides us comes at a huge

[FairfieldLife] Re: Response to Alex's Kundalini symptoms

2007-07-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tanmay: How much time do I get before I turn into a pumkin? If and when you get a proper job and focus instead of fooling around on the internet you will be ok. Fear no pumpkin :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Samadhi by Shr Chinmoy'

2007-07-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wonder if it is fair or accurate to translate the language of Sri Chinmoy using Maharishi's language of his Seven States of Consciousness? could it be, that savikalpa samadhi is TC (transcendental

[FairfieldLife] Re: My experience with the awakened Kundalini

2007-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Ron, I'm really not trying to argue with you or accuse you of anything -- that's how you're reacting. I merely presented a different way of looking at your experience. That you respond to that different way of seeing things as an accusation says more, IMO, than the experiences. More below,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread billy jim
We buddhists? What is this about? empty TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Right, but Byron Katie is a Neo-Advaitin, and if we go too far into that realm, there's no karma, no people, no suffering

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Vaj
On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:01 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: FWIW I still support my original premise: If we criticise another (particularly if the other isn't even present, and we're criticising them to a 3rd party), we generally *are* coming from a place of pain (hurt/anger), whether or not we are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'MIC Threatens Hillary'

2007-07-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/22/07 11:29:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you just hoping nobody here reads the newspapers? No, just one or two that don't spin left. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Right, but Byron Katie is a Neo-Advaitin, and if we go too far into that realm, there's no karma, no people, no suffering (in fact, nothing!). Has that been your experience with her Inquiry? It certainly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it necessary to tread the Kundalalini path for Realization

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: a position that is fraught with addictive pain. Hi Rory, so are you using the expression addictive pain because we find it easier to recycle

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to use paradox as a vehicle, try running through a couple hundred mahavakyas you don't already know an answer to or have discursive ideas about. Sorry Vaj, there are only 4 mahavakyas, all else are just vakyas.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is, How is doing 'the work,' Byron Katie- style, *not* fraught with addictive pain? It seems to me that what Rory describes above is very much a form of moodmaking -- starting with the assumption that one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Vaj
On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:23 AM, t3rinity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to use paradox as a vehicle, try running through a couple hundred mahavakyas you don't already know an answer to or have discursive ideas about. Sorry Vaj, there are

[FairfieldLife] Re: My experience with the awakened Kundalini

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron, I'm really not trying to argue with you or accuse you of anything -- that's how you're reacting. I merely presented a different way of looking at your experience. That you respond to that different way of seeing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the above example, Rory is embracing absolute POV 'criticizing is projecting our own inner pain on others' and therefore taking an extreme POV, rather than embracing the paradox: all is one and assholes still exist.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: The desire in this case is to have no expectations of others in terms of their behavior, and to see them as other aspects of one's Self, snip We Buddhists... We Buddhists? Do Buddhists believe in a Self? ...might have compassion for the poor, drugged- out guy, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Question, short form: Is Katie's the work, whether valuable or not, just another form of moodmaking? Answer, short form: No. I don't know.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush appoints himself dictator in case of catastrophic event

2007-07-24 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HEY AMERICANS - ARE YOU WATCHING WHAT'S HAPPENING TO YOUR COUNTRY ??? Bush Anoints Himself as the Insurer of Constitutional Government in Emergency Matthew Rothschild The Progressive, May 18, 2007

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Question, short form: Is Katie's the work, whether valuable or not, just another form of moodmaking? Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Answer, short form: No. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'MIC Threatens Hillary'

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/22/07 11:29:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you just hoping nobody here reads the newspapers? No, just one or two that don't spin left. Spin left being defined as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Question, short form: Is Katie's the work, whether valuable or not, just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'MIC Threatens Hillary'

2007-07-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/24/07 8:39:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you just hoping nobody here reads the newspapers? No, just one or two that don't spin left. Spin left being defined as anything that doesn't follow the hard right-wing line. Unfortunately,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I'm chuckling, remembering when you suggested the Byron Katie approach to me some time back, and I rejected it on similar grounds to what Barry's

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'MIC Threatens Hillary'

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/07 8:39:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you just hoping nobody here reads the newspapers? No, just one or two that don't spin left. Spin left being defined as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush appoints himself dictator in case of catastrophic event

2007-07-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: HEY AMERICANS - ARE YOU WATCHING WHAT'S HAPPENING TO YOUR COUNTRY ??? Bush Anoints Himself as the Insurer of Constitutional Government in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:23 AM, t3rinity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: If you want to use paradox as a vehicle, try running through a couple hundred mahavakyas you don't already

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
Rory: Right, you didn't offer me that marvelous image to play with -- but you *did* (in my reality anyhow) offer me your pain, which was all I really wanted. To whatever degree You and I are separate, my heartfelt thanks to You :-) Me: I have been enjoying lurking I have been thinking something

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Vaj
On Jul 24, 2007, at 12:09 PM, t3rinity wrote: I suggest to investigate terms from spiritual path within their own respective philosophies and not a hotchpotch of new age ideas. I couldn't agree more, but then of course I get called a traditionalist. sigh Not just advaita vedanta uses

[FairfieldLife] VIDEO: The Bush Liars Lying on Tape

2007-07-24 Thread do.rflex
Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and Powell shown lying to the American people and to the world Watch them lie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slsCBqrQfkmode=relatedsearch=

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory: Right, you didn't offer me that marvelous image to play with -- but you *did* (in my reality anyhow) offer me your pain, which was all I really wanted. To whatever degree You and I are separate, my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
Are you sure you are talking about *Judy* here? because what I am hearing is you talking to yourself Barry, all the way down. Has nothing to do with Judy, except as a device for your own distraction.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your *stories*

[FairfieldLife] Eating Slaumers

2007-07-24 Thread Duveyoung
This morning I had a tasty treat -- I ate a slaumer. It was surprisingly juicy, had a yellow and rose colored thin outer skin, quite sweet but not overwhelmingly sweet like some fruits can be, crispy and crunchy flesh. I've seen this fruit before in other colors too -- all yellow, all green, all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Rory: Right, you didn't offer me that marvelous image to play with -- but you *did* (in my reality anyhow) offer me your pain,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eating Slaumers

2007-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, wait. Did I say slaumer? I meant apple. Why didn't you know I was describing an apple until now? Okay, next subject: I had a spiritual experience this morning, and I want to describe it for you . . .

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread qntmpkt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: In the above example, Rory is embracing absolute POV 'criticizing is projecting our own inner pain on others' and therefore taking an extreme POV,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread qntmpkt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: In the above example, Rory is embracing absolute POV 'criticizing is projecting our own inner pain on others' and therefore taking an extreme POV,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip What you say about Rory's use of language as a ranking device certainly strikes a resonance with me, but now that you've brought it up, I can see it in many others as well. And yes, occasionally in myself. Rarely in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 12:09 PM, t3rinity wrote: I suggest to investigate terms from spiritual path within their own respective philosophies and not a hotchpotch of new age ideas. I couldn't agree more, but then of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for responding Turq. Pinning it all on Rory isn't completely fair since it is a quality in many posts as you mention. I had a nice little self-reflection on whether or not I was using my own self admitted commonness in the same way! It is an imposition of my own values onto someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for responding Turq. Pinning it all on Rory isn't completely fair since it is a quality in many posts as you mention. I had a nice little self-reflection on whether or not I was using my own self

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread yifuxero
---Below: Rory says suffering has no objective reality. True, but irrelevant in terms of the actions that may be required to offset the suffering. The proposed remedies - whatever they are - also have no objective reality, so we are back to square one. Thus, if some home invaders are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to Richistan, USA

2007-07-24 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where Shemp dreams to live. America's super-rich have returned to the days of the Roaring Twenties. As the rest of the country struggles to get by, struggles to get by? Sure, if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush appoints himself dictator in case of catastrophic event

2007-07-24 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have actually written, on this forum and on others, several times now, of one of the things I do almost religiously with my posts. Once a month or so, I go through all of them and reread them as if the person I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Vaj
On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:38 PM, yifuxero wrote: ---Below: Rory says suffering has no objective reality. True, but irrelevant in terms of the actions that may be required to offset the suffering. The proposed remedies - whatever they are - also have no objective reality, so we are back to square

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you willing to actually see me as an equal? Completely equal? Not in some cosmic perspective way that you unequally comprehend, but brother to brother? Here my opinion: We are not equal. I think what you are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to Richistan, USA

2007-07-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/24/07 2:47:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quality public education even for college should be free. We could easily have that and money left over if we didn't waste money on that stupid war in Iraq which is only done to profit Bush's

[FairfieldLife] Jesus Christ speaks of the living waters..bliss consciousness!

2007-07-24 Thread BillyG.
Jesus (addressing the Samarian woman at the well) answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again, ...but, whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst, the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water (bliss,anandam)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hillary Kicks Brass'

2007-07-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/22/07 10:47:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She didn't vote for the war. She voted to authorize Bush to use force only if diplomacy was unsuccessful. Bush, of course, never had any intention of using diplomacy. The war was a done deal long

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Vaj
On Jul 24, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Vaj wrote: the two truths I'm sorry (someone nudged me offlist). The two truths are the relative (truth) and the absolute (truth). Thanks Kala. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for taking the time to respond in detail. I think you have brought out some very good points about our different world views. I do agree with your point about people's differences concerning talents, intelligence and skills. You have correctly noted that I do not recognize the same

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to Richistan, USA

2007-07-24 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Where Shemp dreams to live. America's super-rich have returned to the days of the Roaring Twenties. As the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't view the ego in the way you seem to be using it and losing my personality is not a goal for me. As I understand it, enlightenment doesn't mean losing one's personality, only the attachment to and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (BTW nuts are actually very hard to kick so their use in fights is really overrated!) Tell that to Bobby Hill! http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gp1JPPFVWIw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't view the ego in the way you seem to be using it and losing my personality is not a goal for me. As I understand it,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to Richistan, USA

2007-07-24 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Where Shemp dreams to live. America's super-rich have returned to the days of the Roaring

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to Richistan, USA

2007-07-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/24/07 6:30:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think we had quality public education before the war in Iraq...after all, we were spending 100s of billions of dollars on public education... What I am saying as an example that the Iraq

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't view the ego in the way you seem to be using

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip I don't view the ego in the way you seem to be using it and losing my personality is not a goal for me. As I understand it,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread curtisdeltablues
I suspect he'd be willing to rewrite it as: If you lose your attachment to/identification with your own personality, you can afford to be non-equal. I think he makes a good point that insistence on equality can mean not just humble unwillingness to give oneself a higher status, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread matrixmonitor
---the people you mention - living in cages. They should practice TM regularly and buy all the CD's DVD's relating to Ramana Maharshi from http://www.arunachala.org What do you suggestsome type of mood-making to grok I'm out of the cage, out of the cage, out of the cage.? i.e. a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: The question is, How is doing 'the work,' Byron Katie- style, *not* fraught with addictive pain? It seems to me that what Rory describes above is very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect he'd be willing to rewrite it as: If you lose your attachment to/identification with your own personality, you can afford to be non-equal. I think he makes a good point that insistence on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus Christ speaks of the living waters..bliss consciousness!

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus (addressing the Samarian woman at the well) answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again, ...but, whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point is that when you've lost your attachment to your ego, you don't go around setting standards and comparing yourself to others, nor do you care if someone thinks you're lower on the totem pole. That's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my life the people who I give the credit for be the most actualized in their personalities are the people who draw out the best from everyone around them. They don't radiate that they are higher but just that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its funny to see some here twisting themselves this way and that, with elaborate explanations and such strident voices that keep them from being free. Holding on to the bars of their cages as one poster said about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to Richistan, USA

2007-07-24 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/07 6:30:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think we had quality public education before the war in Iraq...after all, we were spending 100s of billions of dollars on public education... What I

[FairfieldLife] Godchecker.com adds mystical numbers to its services.

2007-07-24 Thread tertonzeno
--- http://www.godchecker.com/offerings/index.php?article-numbers I'm assuming godchecker.com is already on your list of indispensable sites. Especially if you're looking for some new to pray to. -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:38 PM, yifuxero wrote: ---Below: Rory says suffering has no objective reality. True, but irrelevant in terms of the actions that may be required to offset the suffering. The proposed remedies -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Its funny to see some here twisting themselves this way and that, with elaborate explanations and such strident voices that keep them

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So thanks for not seeing it as Rory bashing. A bashed Rory is as Perfect as an unabashed Rory.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you feel all perception and cognition (in the mundane sense) are projection? Now, try expressing all that you have pondered and answered as if everyone else is truly YOU, not projected from you but actually YOU.lol.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I do have a certain confidence that everyone else is just like me, doing the best they can with the weird mix of genetics and circumstances that brought us to where we are in our lives. Yes. I find that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Its funny to see some here twisting themselves this way and that,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---the people you mention - living in cages. They should practice TM regularly and buy all the CD's DVD's relating to Ramana Maharshi from http://www.arunachala.org What do you suggestsome type of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether an asshole actually exists or not is impossible for me to say. Actually a nice analogy (for satsang on the south side). Like a donut (from Krispy Creme), is there a donut hole?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread sinhlnx
---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the apartment is real, but really be living inside Mae West's head? http://www.planetperplex.com/en/item203 Or, Jim, you were fortunate in realizing you were in a cage. So I guess the people living in the cage but don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: The question is, How is doing 'the work,' Byron Katie- style, *not* fraught with addictive pain? It seems to me that what Rory describes above is very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH my current understanding of moodmaking is in no way condemnatory, as all the states of consciousness look much like moods to me. From where I stand, we have a choice as to our primary mood or frequency, which

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome to Richistan, USA

2007-07-24 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/24/07 9:28:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I am saying as an example that the Iraq war billions could have provided education or better highways or housing for the homeless. Instead we just blow stuff up with it so that the defense

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me: I have been enjoying lurking I have been thinking something about how you write that I would like to run by you Rory. I think you are using language that very carefully does separate you from the person

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the apartment is real, but really be living inside Mae West's head? Some time ago, and periodically, I consider that we are all living in Krishna's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Do you feel all perception and cognition (in the mundane sense) are projection? Now, try expressing all that you have pondered and answered as if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the apartment is real, but really be living inside Mae West's head? http://www.planetperplex.com/en/item203 Or, Jim, you were fortunate in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:38 PM, yifuxero wrote: ---Below: Rory says suffering has no objective reality. True, but irrelevant in terms of the actions that may be required to offset the suffering. The proposed remedies -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I feel pity for those who haven't experienced this, but I can't look down on them, nor do I think that Rory indicated this in any way. I see him as a completely humble spiritual practitionar, who is far beyond me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the apartment is real, but really be living inside Mae West's head? http://www.planetperplex.com/en/item203 Or, Jim, you were fortunate in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Do you feel all perception and cognition (in the mundane sense) are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the apartment is real, but really be living inside Mae West's head?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I am recommending that one be aware of where the criticism is coming from -- that one place attention on the core expectations behind the criticisms, and thereby to discover the illusory and projective nature of one's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---Consider an apartment as a type of cage. Could a person only think the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Byron Katie's the work a form of moodmaking?

2007-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip I feel pity for those who haven't experienced this, but I can't look down on them, nor do I think that Rory indicated this in any way. I see him as

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