[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: what thype of rigorous requirements would you suggest for studies done on homeopathy? I'm asking out of curiosity because a friend of mine is

[FairfieldLife] The case for giving Europe back to the Basques

2009-01-14 Thread guyfawkes91
Before the Indo-Europeans arrived in Europe in the late Neolithic Europe was populated by other people. They got pushed to the margins and presently the sole surviving remnant seem to be represented by the Basque people of North West Spain and SW France. See

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: Where are the numbers? In South America, if the initiations we here of are true, and in India, based on what the TMO shows us about TMO money at work in India. Now I remember 20 years or more ago there were these

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: all i am left with is suggesting you try TM for awhile, and draw your own conclusions. Fair enough. That is all anyone can do. the so called conventional wisdom is often just conventional, and not wisdom at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Something Bizarre...

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: I got the super radiance numbers by copying and pasting the figures from: http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html However, for some reason, when I pasted it here, it pasted text that DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE WEBSITE!

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread guyfawkes91
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: I predict that the TMO as we know it will reinvent itself. That Doctor Bevan Morris and Dr. John Hagelin will retire and quickly thereafter no longer be mentioned in the TMO. That thereafter, once the sycophant fools

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@... wrote: It could be that someone might have sufficient intelligence to realize that the good bits of Maharishi's message can only be saved from being dragged down with the collapse of Vlodrop's authority by copying the tape

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Mason
I remember the first tape recall that you mention, in the mid-1970's, prior to the release of the boxed tape of Humboldt lectures. Is that right that the tapes were actually destroyed? If so that is gross. Interestingly, it would make the contents of the mp3 recordings which are now

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Mason
I remember the first tape recall that you mention, in the mid-1970's, prior to the release of the boxed tapes of Humboldt lectures. Is that right that the tapes were actually destroyed? If so that is gross. Interestingly, it would make the contents of the mp3 recordings which are now circulating

[FairfieldLife] More MANswers!

2009-01-14 Thread cardemaister
According to MANswers, Indian men have the shortest lingams (shepa's) on this planet! shepo romanvantau bhedau [...] icchati?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandp...@... wrote: I remember the first tape recall that you mention, in the mid-1970's, prior to the release of the boxed tapes of Humboldt lectures. Is that right that the tapes were actually destroyed? If so that is gross.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome numbers Drop in FF

2009-01-14 Thread dhamiltony2k5
In a town of 9,500 people, these numbers are HUGE. Everyone deserves congratulations for doing what it takes to maintain superradiance, now in its 30th year. Yes, what is in their attendance number though? About a thousand hireling pujaris from India (out-sourced attendance),

[FairfieldLife] Re: More MANswers!

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: According to MANswers, Indian men have the shortest lingams (shepa's) on this planet! Interestingly, they testably also spend the least amount of time of any men on the planet in foreplay, and are second only to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: More MANswers!

2009-01-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: According to MANswers, Indian men have the shortest lingams (shepa's) on this planet! shepo romanvantau bhedau [...] icchati? Well, just occurred to me, how many shepa's nowadays really want *romanvantau* bhedau? :D

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Mason
As to the provenance of the tapes that have surfaced on mp3, the very oldest of those of Maharishi, and one of the most revealing was actually discovered on a long overlooked cassette tucked away in someone's belongings. Parts of the tape were discovered to have been recorded back-to-front (!)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-14 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2009, at 10:15 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: As far as I am aware, the pictures have been removed from the bottles. Quite right. Pay attention, people. How many times do I have to repeat this? I thought he

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: I predict that the TMO as we know it will reinvent itself. That Doctor Bevan Morris and Dr. John Hagelin will retire and quickly thereafter no longer be mentioned in the TMO. That thereafter, once the sycophant fools

[FairfieldLife] Some things can make you go 'WOW!'

2009-01-14 Thread do.rflex
Thinking small: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdGJxSDgWlo

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Guy, is a good quick reading of the tea leafs. In watching, the Bevanistic-Haglinist faction are not joined at the hip. Yes, both are idealistic but Morris is the still powerful bull dogmatist inside and Hagelin calculated moving TM practically forward outside in a secular way. Each with a

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
OK, finishing up on this reply... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip FWIW, I'm a skeptic on both the personal improvement and objective measurement of enlightenment counts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal L.Shaddai@ wrote: Where are the numbers? In South America, if the initiations we here of are true, and in India, based on what the TMO shows us about TMO money

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-14 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: As far as I am aware, the pictures have been removed from the bottles. Quite right. Pay attention, people. How many times do I have to repeat this?

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: all i am left with is suggesting you try TM for awhile, and draw your own conclusions. Fair enough. That is all anyone can do. the so

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip To some extent I associate this belief that you can reinvent history with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and I associate some aspects of that dis- order with popular spiritual teachers. They exist in a cocoon of Yes

[FairfieldLife] Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Recent Jerry Jarvis http://tinyurl.com/8ypwcq http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=0c4jhBY22dAfeature=channel_page

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread enlightened_dawn11
i have no argument with what Ruth says. she does draw some conclusions based on her lack of experience with TM, just as Barry does. i don't see anything like the same arrogance and nastiness that i see in him, however. and she never trolls like he does. as to your earlier post about Barry

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 13, 2009, at 10:15 PM, I am the eternal wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: As far as I am aware, the pictures have been removed from the bottles. Quite right. Pay attention,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-14 Thread I am the eternal
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.comwrote: L. Shaddai wrote: MAPI products will slowly undergo more iterations of starting to look like Crest toothpaste so's the products can sell next to the vitamin display of your local pharmacy/chemist shop.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread pranamoocher
Nice find. Nothing like Jerry, who was always a pleasure to listen to. You immediately got a sense of genuine integrity and peace when he spoke. Too bad the video is so short. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Recent Jerry Jarvis

[FairfieldLife] Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek -- copywrite morals?

2009-01-14 Thread Duveyoung
ruthsimplicity wrote: Reproducing an entire article without permission of the author is copyright infringement, even if you give the author credit. Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek, I would be grateful if you folks would do some posting about the copyright issue. I have read about this online,

[FairfieldLife] Question for Paul Mason

2009-01-14 Thread Vaj
You have posted on the textual pieces that make up the TM initiation puja. I'd also heard the story of the pundit-poet who composed a tribute to SBS, which on reading it, he asked MMY to throw away. Are these two stories connected? i.e. is the TM puja connected to this same tribute?

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: what thype of rigorous requirements would you suggest for studies done on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread Duveyoung
What was Jerry's reason to be doing this? Was he giving an advanced lecture or what? Maybe he's testing the waters for a coup or comeback? He's still the one TMO leader who could possibly pull it off -- he could represent that he knew the real Maharishi. Like that. That said, he'd better

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread guyfawkes91
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Guy, is a good quick reading of the tea leafs. In watching, the Bevanistic-Haglinist faction are not joined at the hip. Yes, both are idealistic but Morris is the still powerful bull dogmatist inside and Hagelin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek -- copywrite morals?

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
I have little or nothing to say, Edg. I am torn on the issue. On the one hand, the creator of the material deserves to make some money from it, if it is in fact good enough to generate income. On the other hand, nothing galls me more than artists who whine about people stealing from them

[FairfieldLife] Re: The case for giving Europe back to the Basques

2009-01-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
guyfawkes wrote: Likewise all of America should be given back to the native Indians... There are no 'native Indians' in America because Indians are from India. Many of the native inhabitants of South America came from islands in the Caribbean. But it would probably be a mistake to give

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Paul Mason

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Mason
Vaj, a Sanskrit Poet of Benares, an Ashu Kavi (spontaneous poet), Pt. Veni Madava Sastri 'Shashtrartha Maharathi' wrote verses about Guru Deva in about 1952. But, Guru Dev asked for them to be taken to the river. 'Tie it down with a big stone, heavy, put it in the Ganges!' However, there still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek -- copywrite morals?

2009-01-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: ruthsimplicity wrote: Reproducing an entire article without permission of the author is copyright infringement, even if you give the author credit. Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek, My info is pretty narrow but thanks for

[FairfieldLife] Global warming: a hallucinatory cult

2009-01-14 Thread shempmcgurk
[From Camille Paglia's column of today at salon.com ] Have you noticed how much the call for combating global warming crusade has in common with how we got into the Iraq war? In both cases, there are experts who tell us that evidence justifying action is undeniable. They say, The risk of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Paul Mason

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Mason
Vaj, it is the fifth verse that is included in the puja and it is likely these five verses are all that survived the submersion, probably re-written with the help of the poet. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandp...@... wrote: Vaj, a Sanskrit Poet of Benares, an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek -- copywrite morals?

2009-01-14 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: ruthsimplicity wrote: Reproducing an entire article without permission of the author is copyright infringement, even if you give the author credit. Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek, I would be grateful if you folks would

[FairfieldLife] Copyright morals and the Fair Use Doctrine

2009-01-14 Thread shempmcgurk
Not to be confused with the Fairness Doctrine (which, in a way, is its polar opposite), the Fair Use Doctrine is a federal law which outlines the rules under which one is allowed to reproduce, without permission, copyrighted materials belonging to another. My understanding is that all of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek -- copywrite morals?

2009-01-14 Thread Bhairitu
Duveyoung wrote: ruthsimplicity wrote: Reproducing an entire article without permission of the author is copyright infringement, even if you give the author credit. Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek, I would be grateful if you folks would do some posting about the copyright issue. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: What was Jerry's reason to be doing this? Was he giving an advanced lecture or what? Maybe he's testing the waters for a coup or comeback? He's still the one TMO leader who could possibly pull it off -- he could

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 13, 2009, at 8:32 PM, sparaig wrote: As far as I am aware, the pictures have been removed from the bottles...but I haven't purchased any MAPI products on moral grounds (and for safety reasons) in a while. Since

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@... wrote: Bevan relishes the role of authoritarian dictator and for the time being is the alpha male at Vlodrop whom all the others take their cues from. Nutjobs like Schiffgens gravitate to Bevan, and the camp komandant types

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: OK, finishing up on this reply... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip FWIW, I'm a skeptic on both the

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal L.Shaddai@ wrote: Where are the numbers? In South America, if the initiations we here of are true, and in India, based on what the TMO shows us about TMO money

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-14 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote: Were they ever on the front? Yes. Here's an old picture. http://www.amritdirect.com/images/amrit_180.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: Were they ever on the front? Yes. Here's an old picture. http://www.amritdirect.com/images/amrit_180.jpg OK. somewhere I have an original

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-14 Thread Vaj
On Jan 14, 2009, at 12:55 PM, sparaig wrote: Great. So they still use the man's likeness whose formulas they stole. Another is dead. How noble. Don't see their pictures on the web site bottles. Are they hidden on the back? Were they ever on the front? Last time I bought it (years

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: thanks for sharing this. the true state of enlightenment- quite a mouthful. though i think we are talking apples and oranges. although Hsuan Hua appears to be a very evolved person, and probably a nice enough guy,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread Vaj
On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:02 PM, sparaig wrote: Patterns of EEG coherence, power, and contingent negative variation characterize the integration of transcendental and waking states There are others, but this is the one with the complete article available online via pub med. As far as I

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:02 PM, sparaig wrote: Patterns of EEG coherence, power, and contingent negative variation characterize the integration of transcendental and waking states There are others, but this is the one

[FairfieldLife] Re: G i v e

2009-01-14 Thread yifuxero
---Not practical. Does this mean I'm supposed to give $100 to the next street person I meet? In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote:     G  i  v  e Unconditionally, with no expectation! Give from feelings

[FairfieldLife] Re: Superconsciousness Words from the Master

2009-01-14 Thread Arhata Osho
Interesting person.  30 years old! Wow. Video results for Nithyananda{var m=window.document.images[window.document.images.length-1];var n=m.src.indexOf('/ThumbnailServer2');if(n=0)m.src='http://video.google.com'+m.src.substr(n);}Living Enlightenment - 1st Samadhi Experience ... 52 min

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: We all have to make decisions in our life. Accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior? Keep kosher? Wear a burka? Go to a scientolgy meeting? Do TM? Give away all your worldly goods to the poor? Lots of

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip Curtis: That seems like a position I can relate to. The question comes, where do you go for information about enlightenment? If anyone takes Maharishi as an expert they have to ignore a lot of what he claimed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: G i v e

2009-01-14 Thread Arhata Osho
I'll send you my address ---Not practical. Does this mean I'm supposed to give $100 to the next street person I meet? In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespeech@ ... wrote:     G  i  v  e

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:02 PM, sparaig wrote: Patterns of EEG coherence, power, and contingent negative variation characterize the integration of transcendental and waking states There are others, but this is the one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread Vaj
On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:35 PM, sparaig wrote: As far as I am aware there is no standard neurological definition of transcendental consciousness, so they made up their own definition. It's self-defined--and therefore quite meaningless--beyond TB's and people who buy the marketing spiel. This is

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: snip MMY said: Right action came to be regarded as a means to gain nirvana, whereas right action is in fact the result of this state of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 14, 2009, at 10:33 AM, pranamoocher wrote: Nice find. Nothing like Jerry, who was always a pleasure to listen to. You immediately got a sense of genuine integrity and peace when he spoke. Too bad the video is so short. No kidding. Somebody articulate, intelligent and with an actual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: What was Jerry's reason to be doing this? Was he giving an advanced lecture or what? Maybe he's testing the waters for a coup or comeback?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ruth - Curtis - Turq - Marek -- copywrite morals?

2009-01-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: [snip] The Mickey Mouse Law or what is known as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) took away a lot of the fair use rights. Some still remain. It really depends on the rights holder and many of the rights

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread guyfawkes91
And from where do you get this nonsense ? History. That's how these things typically pan out. The present TMO is an authoritarian regime grafted on top of a collection of well meaning and oftimes very good people. All authoritarian regimes require a large pool of submissive fearful people. They

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread yifuxero
---thx ...below - e-mailed to Jerry just now. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 10:33 AM, pranamoocher wrote: Nice find. Nothing like Jerry, who was always a pleasure to listen to. You immediately got a sense of genuine

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread Marek Reavis
This has been an excellent thread, thanks to both of you. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Curtis: That seems like a position I can relate to. The question

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread yifuxero
--Brahmasthan, the TMO's Spiritual Center of America, will crumble with the crumbs being picked up by the Mormons, who will establish their own New Jerusalem in Missouri.: Joseph Smith received revelation in July of 1831 that the New Jerusalem and a temple would be built in Independence,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Guy, is a good quick reading of the tea leafs. In watching, the Bevanistic-Haglinist faction are not joined at the hip. Yes, both are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:50 PM, yifuxero wrote: ---thx ...below - e-mailed to Jerry just now. Wish he'd drop by here, would love to say thanks. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: I disagree. The movement is making public claims and among those is that it is involved in science. Challenging claims for no evidence is legitimate. People can interpret their internal experiences as

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@... wrote: People with access to the tape library are not selected for courage and insight. HaHa Quote of the week !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread Duveyoung
yifuxero, If you're a real friend of Jerry, send him my earlier post, below. Challenge his ass, be a, you know, real friend. Let's see if even with you running as his shield he'll feel comfortable enough to react to my considerations. Betting he'll not opt so -- and despite his personal

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:35 PM, sparaig wrote: As far as I am aware there is no standard neurological definition of transcendental consciousness, so they made up their own definition. It's self-defined--and therefore quite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread bettyblue109
Its no mystery, its just LIFE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: What was Jerry's reason to be doing this?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread yifuxero
--- Thx - I'm not his shield. Just now I forwarded the message below. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: yifuxero, If you're a real friend of Jerry, send him my earlier post, below. Challenge his ass, be a, you know, real friend. Let's see if even with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread william108wm
Jerry used to do weekend Gita workshops around the U.S. He's starting to do them again. This YouTube video was from Seattle, I believe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: --- Thx - I'm not his shield. Just now I forwarded the message below. In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Youtube of Jerry Jarvis

2009-01-14 Thread Duveyoung
MaribethMartell has replied to my comment on the Jerry Jarvis youtube clip on Jan 12 2009: I'm sorry, I only recorded these two minutes on my phone; they (the Palo Alto and/or the Sausalito Center) were doing an official recording but I don't know if they'll be making that available anywhere.

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Curtis: That seems like a position I can relate to. The question comes, where do you go for information about enlightenment?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread Vaj
On Jan 14, 2009, at 4:12 PM, sparaig wrote: As far as I am aware there are no Buddhist meditation techniques that sell and market their form of meditation using research, either legitimate scientific research, pilot research or marketing research. So, you think the only reason why the TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: In the Western Regional Office, I was in charge of the tapes to be sent out to centers for resi- dence courses and advanced lectures... Turq probably meant 'film' instead of 'tape', since recording to video tape for SCI didn't happen until the invention of the composite

[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment according to Dattareya

2009-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3hM6LFzWlUfeature=related

[FairfieldLife] Apple now has the thinnest, lightest CEO on the market.

2009-01-14 Thread I am the eternal
Steve Jobs announced in an email today to Apple Computer that he is taking off at least until June because his health issues are more complex than he first thought. Isn't Steve Jobs a meditator?

[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment is a gift from the Guru

2009-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3-0lOWVKGwfeature=channel

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip ...this is my disagreement: but *I* sure don't feel I have to ignore a lot of what MMY claimed on that basis. Seems to me it's apples and oranges. Just for one thing, I don't think listening to a

[FairfieldLife] False Enlightenment according to Dattatreya

2009-01-14 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMjOavf6em0feature=related

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread Vaj
On Jan 14, 2009, at 6:41 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Maybe we've heard different speeches; I've gotten more than that. But in any case, I don't buy that a person has to be intellectually brilliant to claim enlightenment as far as what MMY taught is concerned. Remember Trotaka? That is an

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2009-01-14 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 10 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 17 00:00:00 2009 628 messages as of (UTC) Thu Jan 15 00:00:00 2009 50 enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 47 authfriend jst...@panix.com 39 TurquoiseB

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 4:12 PM, sparaig wrote: As far as I am aware there are no Buddhist meditation techniques that sell and market their form of meditation using research, either legitimate scientific research, pilot

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: We have no idea as to whether TM successfully produces enlightenment or unity consciousness. Rick says there are dozens of Fairfielders claiming to be enlightened. Some post here. All either did TM for years, or still do.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread Vaj
On Jan 14, 2009, at 7:50 PM, sparaig wrote: I'd agree they have a lot at stake, for example the Shamatha Project scientists are not Buddhists at all. The reason they're willing to risk their careers--and these include some famous scientists like Elizabeth Blackburn--is numerous scientists have

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread yifuxero
--My Kriya Yoga teacher. Enlightened, probably. Others, maybe not. http://www.sanskritclassics.com/aboutbaba.html - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: We have no idea as to whether TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 7:50 PM, sparaig wrote: I'd agree they have a lot at stake, for example the Shamatha Project scientists are not Buddhists at all. The reason they're willing to risk their careers--and these include some

[FairfieldLife] CRITICAL Phone Action: Your Chance to Put Chaney/Bush on the Stand!!

2009-01-14 Thread arhatafreespeech
You don't like having no ability to speak out!  Watch these 2 short videos, particularly one on Obama and George Stephanopolous and CALL IN! ARHATA We scored an amazing mass media victory this week, which we must immediately build on and expand, when first Keith Olbermann took note

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: We have no idea as to whether TM successfully produces enlightenment or unity consciousness. Rick says there are dozens of Fairfielders claiming to

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 7:50 PM, sparaig wrote: [...] Who is in charge of the Shamatha Project, and who is doing research on it? The PI is Cliff Saron

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment according to Dattareya

2009-01-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Nablusoss1008, interesting video, do you subscribe to this fellow's point of view? Do you remember when Maharishi used to speak about the softening of the breath that occurs as the person grows in enlightenment? While I was watching this guy I remembered that and realized that I'd completely

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 6:41 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Maybe we've heard different speeches; I've gotten more than that. But in any case, I don't buy that a person has to be intellectually brilliant to claim enlightenment

[FairfieldLife] Pete Seger and Joan Baez -- You've got to walk that lonesome valley

2009-01-14 Thread I am the eternal
http://www.4shared.com/file/80687968/aeb11d9e/Pete_Seeger__Joan_Baez_-_Lonesome_Valley.html http://tinyurl.com/9l9ptb

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