They never got what Movement promised them especially payments, I remember
one pundit, he was a good one, you could saw him on most broadcasts in the
time of Global Country inauguration, he had family, he complained again and
again about the money, finally he was paid in Raams which is useless and
Such things were happening in Holland too, I have spent some time working
closly with indian comunity in Vlodrop, I knew very well their problems,
and that article is not very far from truth.
Dana 31. 1. 2014. 21:18 osoba Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
napisala je:
Then why did Hagelin
hi :)
2012/6/9 Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com
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On Aug 21, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
I just watched “David Wants to Fly” for the first time last night. I had
heard about the “controversy among the rajas” that was part of the film, but
no one had
Chaitanyas supposed lineage comes through Madhvacharya. Madhva is Dvaita.
Completely at the opposite spectrum of Nimbarki's Dvaitadvaita. YET,
Chaitanya upon entering Vrindavan decides to adopt Dvaitadvaita - and simply
adds his 'Achintya' infront of it. Whereas Nibarki's is Svabhavika
abuse them to make yourself important...
What a perverseness...!
Alex, Rick... how you will call this abuse...?
2010/1/19 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
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Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote:
I would never expose
The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married.
False.
Read whole post next time. Think before act.
The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married.
False.
include some kind of reference to
the post you are replying to? Reading what's below
(and your last post as well), there is no way that
we can tell who or what you are replying to. Thanks
in advance.
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WRONG
2010/1/19 authfriend jst...@panix.com
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[I wrote:]
The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married.
False.
According to the Hagelin email, Tony got married
think it started smehow in that time.
2010/1/19 authfriend jst...@panix.com
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[I wrote:]
The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married.
False.
According to the Hagelin
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Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote:
OK... I have misunderstand you... I was thinking you are
referring the fact about when Tony become king but you are
referring to the ''raja thing'' having in mind about when
those courses
,
Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote:
In my first post I was referring to the movement structure
before ''raja thing'' in which MMY put the administrators
who were single or married couples whom he suggested not
to have children. He was always in favor for single style
of life without
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snip
I also know situations after the ''raja thing'' in which
MMY asked people to join him and to leave wife and children.
Highly unlikely, I've never heard such a thing
What was your question? It's hard to hear here in kitchen!
2010/1/19 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
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I wasn't work in kitchen on a Prep Purusha even I would like
j_alexander_stan...@... wrote:
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I wasn't work in kitchen on a Prep Purusha even I
No... just about alligator wanted to breakfast Adi Shankara...
2010/1/19 WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com
Zoran Krneta wrote:
What was your question? It's hard to hear here
in kitchen!
Have you heard any rumors about the Maharishi
having girlfriends when he lived down in Spain
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Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote:
*Tony Nader is liar. That's now evident.*
Everyone who was with MMY last 10-20 years was aware about the fact that
he
was strongly encouraging people to join him in organization but to remain
as
a single or if they were married
Anyway... I can confirm that Schiffgins has ''close male friend'' but for me
that it's not issue here. It's about ''PEOPLE TELLING LIES''
I don't care if Nader would have 100 wives and 1000 children. It's about
credibility. MMY NEVER MENTIONED that Nader is going to be married... Ask
guys on
It's about ''PEOPLE TELLING LIES''
Again; what lies ?
Oh... I apologize for calling Mr. Nader a liar... he was just telling us
''unrevealed secret truth known only to him and MMY and which nobody can
confirm''. How does people call such arguments in your country? Are they
using them in court
If we assume that information is true and having in mind whole situation in
Vlodrop known from the people who were there last 10 - 15 years, then:
*This would be a fraud and big lie:*
Maharishi had requested him to, for the children's sake, maintain the
privacy of his family until the oldest was
I can confirm from my reliable sources from Vlodrop that story is true.
*Tony Nader is liar. That's now evident.*
Everyone who was with MMY last 10-20 years was aware about the fact that he
was strongly encouraging people to join him in organization but to remain as
a single or if they were married couple then MMY did not accept them to join
with children. There were
*Tony Nader is liar. That's now evident.*
Everyone who was with MMY last 10-20 years was aware about the fact that he
was strongly encouraging people to join him in organization but to remain as
a single or if they were married couple then MMY did not accept them to join
with children. There were
Aboriginal folklore and fairytales''...
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3225/aboriginal-dreaming-story-leads-meteorite-crater
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/30/dreamtime-meteor-impact-found-with-google-earth-2/
Yes, after that movie i didn't feel good for 2-3 days. Movie is actually
good... but what it describes is horrible.
2009/12/30 PaliGap compost...@yahoo.co.uk
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no_re...@... wrote:
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now i am at home in Croatia...
2009/12/23 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
On Dec 22, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Zoran Krneta wrote:
watched Avatar... disapointed... looks like New Age John Wayne in
psyihodelic environment...
Aren't you in India Zoran? Where did you see it at?
watched Avatar... disapointed... looks like New Age John Wayne in
psyihodelic environment...
I did not mentioned bijas... I referred your question to the fact that in
Upanishads the principle about nick names is described.
So stick to the subject Willy!
2009/12/14 WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com
But, how did the Gods get the 'nick-names'?
Zoran Krneta wrote:
So you did not read
The principles of the nick-names and the bija
mantras are described in the Tantras, Zoran, not
in the Upanishads.
So you did not read Upanishads carefully Willy. You don't know where in the
Upanishads is the part of the text which brings out principle that Gods are
pleased to be called
But, how did the
Gods get the 'nick-names'? Did someone make them up
or what? Maybe the Gods don't like being addressed by
their real names, so they told the Rishis to call
them by other, shorter names. But, who was the first
person to call a God by his nick-name?
So you did not read Upanishads!
I have gone through many purana texts... I did not find any part in it
mentioning human sacrifices...
It is true that in India still you can find human sacrifices but they belong
to tantric tradition not to vedic one...
2009/11/27 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:02 AM,
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,501020729-322673,00.html
http://www.theisticsatanism.com/asp/hs.html
2009/11/27 ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@netscape.net
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bitterness and arrogance is also included in your proper understanding of
the word advanced...?
2009/11/2 Premanand premanandp...@yahoo.co.uk
Doug, whilst I accept that the use of 'advanced' is normal within the
TMorg, I question that there is anything 'advanced' about advanced meetings?
most of them communicate through their secretaries... so rajas wont
answer...
you will get answer like life is bliss and if you persist probably you are
stressed person and need checking... or you don't live in proper vastu with
eastern entrance...
so before writing have a house with proper
There is no harm in saying mantra loudly but rather then listenng a
h-h theories on this form go and do the checking of your meditation.
2009/8/10 Damjan Jovanovic dj...@yahoo.com
Hi
I learned TM at the age of 10, and found it to be one of the most wonderful
and profound things
That's really a great question Damjan, however, there is NO evidence what so
ever, to suggest that TM is a *diksha* initiation where the Guru (MMY is NOT
a guru per se) charges the mantra with his shakti or enlightenment.
There are a lot of examples in Indian spiritual traditions where disciples
Please if someone have manuscript of that chapter can it compare?
Thanks
Everything has meaning, Zoran, but bija mantras
have no semantic meaning.
Richard, does the word usa have semantic meanining?
Every word have sound value dosen't matter it sounds meaningless or not. If
you listen or read Rig Ved texts you will get the result doesn't matter you
understand it or
Richard, you did not answer my question:
Does the word USA have semantic meaning?
There are Vedic mantras and Tantric mantras... Vedic procedures and Tantric
procedures.
Tantric means quickly, directly without long procedures and texts.
Vedic mantras are Vedic texts used in Vedic procedures of worship.
Tantric bija mantra is short, condensed esence of vedic mantras... like...
Zoran this may be the case in general in regards to older traditions
Yes, I was simplifying and made as general example.
but there are sages and yogis in the Buddhist tradition (and I'm sure
in the inner tantras of Hinduism as well) who are revealing/seeing new
tantras/cycles.
Can be... that's
Woodroffe and Eliade both say unequivocally
that the mantras have absolutely no semantic
meaning...
I don't know who Mr. Woodroffe and Eliade are, but Mr. Jaimini in Mimansa
said that there were a lot of words in Rig Veda which appeared only there
and only once and Mr. Jaimini did not know their
om apavitrah pavitro va sarvavastham gato 'pi va
yah smaret pundarikaksham sa bahyabhyantarah sucih
sri vishnu sri vishnu sri vishnu
that part is introduction in every puja that belongs to nityakarm...
Bija mantras cannot be translated into
English because bija mantras are not words with
semantic meaning.
They don't have semantic meaning like usual words.
Each letter in bija mantra has a meaning which you can translate. Guru who
gives you a mantra should know that meaning of each letter. So
You idiot, children don't smoke betel leaves,
they chew them.
So now you come to know that Indian pundits chewing something... but you
don't know what they are chewing... maybe nuts ha...
Tobacco is a relatively new ingredient in the mix,
however, the chewing of Paan dates back to the
Harappan
So most of people in Vedic City dont know habits of Indian pundits?!
This is outrageous - twelve year old children
don't smoke betel leaves!
So you don't know present habits of Indian pundits?
But you are learned abut their history which took place 5.000 years ago?
The largest sect of Adwaita Vedantins in
India ascribe to the Sri Vidya doctrine.
I dont know why some people here are relating Shri Vidya with Shankara and
Advaita Vedanta ONLY.
Acharyas like Ramunuja and Nimbark also had Shri Vidya incorporated in their
teachings... mantras too.
And Ramunuja
This kind of speech is supported by practice of all angas of Yoga?
2009/7/11 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com
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Since most TM'ers, especially in the tmorg,
have accepted TM in lieu of
BilyG,
I agree with you but MMY was more supportive towards Vedanta than Yoga,
especially knowing that Shankara lineage rejected Yoga as philospohy and
practice...
In India, if you ask some Swamis about Yoga usually they don't know nothing
about that and they will say is good for health because
Shankara rejected Yoga philosophy in his commentaries on Brahma Sutras.
Sankara philosophy has some logical inconsistencies in itself and that is
the reason why Shankara lineage is full of controversial teachings. Take SBS
example.
MMY took those aspects of Patanjali Yoga which were supportive to Vedanta
view but he did not claimed he was vedantin.
I am referring to his philosophy not practice.
He certainly edited it in every detail personally spending months on this
glorious book.
……….
Reading commentaries of chapters 8 and 9 I found that they are not on the
same quality level as commentaries of chapters 1-6. It seems that author
spent much more time editing them in every detail.
yes
1 Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@
2009/6/10 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
outing people as meditators?
No, you misinterpret this. No, these are not outings in the sense of that
word the way some might use it. Is simply a compiling in to a status list of
those admitted meditator
Thanks Rick for posting this... I spoke with him because I am going in
Alhabad soon. Nice guy..!
2009/5/24 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
*From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *bhawani_shank2000
*Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:00
...that his family was of the kayastha (scribal) caste.
That is correct... but that caste is not very much liked in India because
they were serving Muslim administration during their occupation of India.
In India they appreciate that cast as lower Kshatriya cast or upper Vaishya
cast.
Dear Friend,
It is a very great joy to inform you of the launch today - on the auspicious
day of Akshaya Tritiya, the day of Lasting Achievements - of the project to
create a new book to which all our Movement people will have the opportunity
of contributing their personal and professional
Those are 2 different types of practice for 2 different levels of
consciousness.
Cosmic consciousness: “The observer and the observed create a dualistic
reality [witnessing]…” – DHYAN PPRACTICE
Brahman consciousness: “…and the higher step of contemplation helps one to
realize that one's real
Kirk wrote:
TM is ultimately a Vaishnava methodology...
You are right...
Shankara had Shri Vidya and Saiva background... but his Guru was
Vaishnava... He worshiped Lord Narasimha and whole lineage was worshiping
Vishnu: Parashara (read Brihad Parashara Hora Sastra), Vyasa, Shukadev...
Hindu word for religion is Dharma.
It heightens awareness of an aspect of our mind. I don't believe that it
heightens awareness itself or our capacity to be aware of anything else more
or better. The purpose for me is that it is enjoyable. No higher state
needed. That said it is way down on my list of things I want to do with
*I believe* you are confused about the meaning of the word secular:
Hallelujah brother... you are believer :)
I know what word secular in strict sense means, but if you want to explain
to mass of others about your type of meditation you will end up in some sort
of belief system because you
Meditation is for Self realization and God realization.
Secular meditation simply does not exist. If Sufi meditation HELPS me to
realize my Self and finally God I would accept it.
You wouldn't?
Which you like…
In my personal life, sure. In state-sponsored public schools? No.
In my Country in state-sponsored public schools children have religion
classes and they participating on the voluntary basis. Other confessions
have the same chance. Nobody makes problems about that.
Meditation has many different
Secular meditation simply does not exist.
Sure it does.
You are claiming that secular meditation develops higher state of
consciousness too. If you are right than Self realization/God realization
are reachable by your secular meditation also.
So what are the differences between them?
You are claiming that secular meditation develops higher state of
consciousness too.
I don't see any evidence that they do.
I think meditation heightens an awareness of an aspect of our mind that has
a small role in who we are or how we perform in the world.
What you say is contradiction.
If
Gayatri Mantra comes together with Yagya Upavit Samskara. If you want to
learn and chant Gayatri there are some other things about which you have to
take care... not only how pronounce properly. Other mantras are not included
in this procedure.
Zero is infinitely smallest but... Brahman is bigger than the biggest and
smaller than the smallest.
lentils (dhal)
2009/2/24 off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Where are you getting your B-12 from as a vegetarian?
Anybody know?
OffWorld
then try beans
2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
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lentils (dhal)
Only if the lentils are contaminated with animal feces.
then farmacy :)
2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
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then try beans
Nope.
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm
2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan
cottage cheese also
2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
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wrote:
then try beans
Nope.
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm
2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan
All Vedic chanting records were done in Vlodrop - analog in beginning and
afterwards there were all digitized, while MMY was still there. Most of
analog records were damaged due the conditions in which there were stored.
What you are listening on MMY channel are digitized versions of Vedic
in adition... listening Rig Ved is not any more part of game... it's Vishnu
Sahasranam...
Try this:
http://sashas-india.blog.de/2007/12/26/8_ayurveda_bhavan_at_rishikesh~3493264
http://www.indiamart.com/amvpharmacy/about-us.html
http://dragandabic.com/
http://dragandabic.com/
Most bizarre thing is that he was going around teaching meditation!
http://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/clanak/art-2008,7,22,,127436.jl
(Sorry isn't in English)
Slobodan Milosevic and his wife were supporters of Serbian TM movement. All
time through they were in close connection with movement leaders and they
enjoy support. I heard that one of them started TM.
Daily meditation was the requirement of the SS
In Ramayana you have description of demon Ravana and his Rakshasa army. They
also followed and practised Vedic rituals, but with one difference - for
realisation of selfish aims - power, money and pleasure.
Lord Krishna in BG describes 2 types of
search for freedom from disease and poverty is not same as search for power,
money and pleasures... those are different categories...
realisation of Divine gives freedom from disease and poverty... if it
comes... if not... only Divine remains...:-)
again in BG Lord Krishna describes 4 types of
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
In Croatian kupiti - to buy
2008/6/1 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
There might be a connection between those twain things, or, of
course, then again, there mightn't. Be it as it may, I predicted
that a couple of weeks ago or so, in a forum(?) of Kauppalehti
(kauppa
The word 'kauppa'
It's not matter of accent … more important is the posture in which he is
addressing to us...
zoran
Sorry, Zoran, but your suggestion is a bit too coy
for my simple perception. What would I see in the
pictures from Maharishi's funeral? Thanks.
There are two movements in the movement:
American/European one (rajas) and Indian one (Maharishi's family -
Shrivastavas, Girish Varma, Nand Kishore
There are two movements in the movement:
American/European one (rajas) and Indian one (Maharishi's family -
Shrivastavas, Girish Varma, Nand Kishore etc.)
Maaharishi's family has shown during funeral who is with them and whom they
are supporting.
Indian part of movement was always dragging
He said now there's not one Maharishi, but in some sense Maharishi is now
expressing himself to all of us, that he has multiplied himself through all
of us.
But most through those who payed more
...closely look at the pictures from Maharishi's funeral...
and in adition make small intellectual exercise about movement's money...
Black Hand (Serbian: Црна рука / Crna Ruka), officially Unification
or Death (Serbian: Уједињење или смрт / Ujedinjenje ili smrt), was a
secret society founded in Serbia in May 1911, this
society's possible connections to the June 28, 1914 assassination in
Sarajevo of Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of
In the meantime, I've been following the thread on John Konhaus' email
responses to the Serb's emails, and the truth of this interchange is very
important to me because it speaks volumes concerning whether or not I can
continue being an active part of any organization under such leaders. As I
see
Then why did you claim that Konhaus attacked you, when the letter you
just posted shows the exact opposite ?
Read carefully: Konhous replay_ Open letter_2
Konhous replay came AFTER my first open letter... ok?
And ought to give rise to some excuses for the vile attacks on
Konhaus from certain
Brahman alone is real, this
world is unreal; the Jiva is identical with Brahman.
That would be Advaita philosophy but part of that statement is argument
which is used by mayavada philosophers. Shankara introduced concept of maya
or illusion of the world and with that he actually introduced
Maybe so, but the TMer tradition follows the Adwaita
tradition of Shankaracharya...
You may believe that Shankara's advaita is right one, but that philosophy
suffers from many inconsistencies. Shakara on many places did not put a
comment on Vyasa's sutras rather he introduced and forced his own
According to Shankara, we can only know Brahman through
transcendental knowledge; everything else experienced
through the senses is an appearance only.
If you are standing for Advaita it can't be Brahman and everyting else,
that's mayavada platform... Mayavadins are not pur monists.
Brahman
You are suggesting that there is a Brahman on one side which can be known
through transcendental knowledge and on the other side is everything else
like ego, mind, senses... etc.
What kind of Brahman is that which doesn't include everything and can not be
the object of gross perception?
Seems you
I remember during MMY birthday he had long hear and beard... I did not see
him on photos... or he shaved hear and beard, because that will be normal
if somebody participate that samskara.
Does somebody saw him for sure?
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