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On Dec 10, 2005, at 1:35 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote:
Maybe I read a bad translation!
Well, as a
On Dec 12, 2005, at 3:02 AM, Robert Gimbel wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 10, 2005, at 1:35 PM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote: Maybe I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Maybe I read a bad translation!
Well, as a semi-devoted TMer, I like to read
Sanskrit texts from TM POV. Here's yet another tranlation
for lokaanandaH samaadhi-sukham:
18.
Translation - Enjoying Samadhi is like enjoying
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On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote: Maybe I read a bad translation! Well, as a semi-devoted TMer, I like to read Sanskrit texts from TM POV. Here's yet another tranlation for "lokaanandaH samaadhi-sukham": 18. Translation - Enjoying Samadhi is like enjoying the world. Exposition
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote:
Maybe I read a bad translation!
Well, as a semi-devoted TMer, I like to read
Sanskrit texts from TM POV. Here's yet another tranlation
for lokaanandaH
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote:
Maybe I read a bad translation!
Well, as a semi-devoted TMer, I like to read
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On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote:
Maybe
On Dec 10, 2005, at 1:35 PM, cardemaister wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:14 AM, cardemaister wrote: Maybe I read a bad translation! Well, as a semi-devoted TMer, I like to read Sanskrit texts from TM POV. Here's yet another
cardemaister writes snipped:
Here's yet another translation, from sanskrit.gde.to -site,
that seems to be erroneous:
1.18 The bliss of the sight is the joy of samadhi.
It's true that the root for 'loka', namely 'lok', means
'to see, behold', but despite that the noun 'loka' doesn't
seem to have
On Dec 10, 2005, at 5:49 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:Tom T; Shiva Sutras Translated by Sage Vasugupta 1.18. His being in the ecstatic state of samadhi bestows bliss and happiness to the whole humanity or the totality of enjoyment in the universe constitutes (or comprises) his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has *anyone* suggested Tom get a wrathful mantra/ishta rather than a
peaceful one? Peaceful deity mantras are just peachy for your average
Joe or Judy wanting to *transcend*, but special mentations require
special
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has *anyone* suggested Tom get a wrathful mantra/ishta rather than
a
peaceful one? Peaceful deity mantras are just peachy for your
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Imagine the day in the life of a cetain 5 year
old
boy.
snip
Sorry to
On Dec 9, 2005, at 4:09 AM, anonymousff wrote:You're assuming that Tom is just wrath. No, not at all. Just that he had possible anger issues. In any event, it helpful for *anyone* to be able to integrate the movement of thought with the calm, transcendent state irregardless of what individual
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Damning Tom once again. He's not a survivor who's getting over.
He's
forever damned because his emotional development was arrested at
the
time of abuse..
snip
Yes, you're
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Damning Tom once again. He's not a survivor who's
getting over.
He's
forever damned because his emotional development
was arrested at
the
time of
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it's our work to do as
individuals--you can't
really outsource your own sadhana to India.
Very wise words.
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--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it's our work to do as
individuals--you can't
really outsource your own sadhana to India.
Very wise words.
I noticed that, too. Nor, IMO, can you outsource
them to a guru or
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--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it's our work to do as
individuals--you can't
really outsource your own sadhana to India.
Very wise words.
I noticed
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Damning Tom once again. He's not a survivor who's
getting over.
He's
Comment below:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**SNIP**
Tom has arranged for a $50,000 legal retainer to sue
Ben the lier. If Ben posts a fully apologitic statement in which he
admits in every line that he, and not Tom was wrong and he apologizes
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Comment below:
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**SNIP**
Tom has arranged for a $50,000 legal retainer to sue
Ben the lier. If Ben posts a fully apologitic
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--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it's our work to do as
individuals--you can't
What do you guys think is the connection between
the individual and collective consciousness? I've
often felt that my individual evolution is in thrall
to the collective, just as my income usually depends
on the larger economy.
Your remarks below consider only individual power,
independent
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What do you guys think is the connection between
the individual and collective consciousness?
Here we go with another paradox. Once the illusion of seperation is
largely dispelled as a result of identification
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The Shiva Sutras have a sloka(?) that specifically
states that you become realized only through your own
effort, nothing else.
Another
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The Shiva Sutras have a sloka(?) that specifically
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[...]
However, instead of then taking a breath of fresh air and getting on
with life, he squanders his equity by trashing others. Aside from
finding it annoying and disruptive, it doesn't help Tom in the
slightest.
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The Shiva Sutras have a sloka(?) that specifically
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[...]
However, instead of then taking a breath of fresh air and
getting on
with life, he squanders his equity by trashing others. Aside
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The Shiva Sutras
Just happened to find a PDFile of
Maybe I read a bad translation!
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The attributes of a survivor and what makes Anon exceedingly
successful in his profession.
Which is?
lurk
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Dying to be thin? Anorexia.
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Dr Pete: writes
The Shiva Sutras have a sloka(?) that specifically
states that you become realized only through your own
effort, nothing else.
Tom T:
from the shiva sutras as posted here two years ago by Michael Goodman
Shiva Sutras
Translated by Sage Vasugupta
First Awakening
1. Universal
On Dec 8, 2005, at 7:20 AM, anonymousff wrote:Had he been a foster child, his ability to attach, ability to love and intellect would not have made him a horror but a joy to have, love and hold.I don't know that that would be the case. My one child, we were his 12th home by the age of 5 and he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 8, 2005, at 7:20 AM, anonymousff wrote:
Had he
been a foster child, his ability to attach, ability to love and
intellect would not have made him a horror but a joy to have, love and
hold.
I don't know that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sincerity is in the eye of the beholder, as you well know. Now run
along and accuse someone else, if it makes you feel any better...
Yes. Thank you Dr. Lechter. I get it. With fava beans and a good
chianti. Thank
On Dec 8, 2005, at 8:33 AM, anonymousff wrote:You're obsessed with this foster home thing, aren't you?No, not particularly. I am concerned that in some instances it can foster attachment disorders. It's a known entity, it's not like something I have to point out. Therefore there should be
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Sincerity is in the eye of the beholder, as you well know. Now run
along and accuse someone else, if it makes you feel any better...
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Sincerity is in the eye of the beholder, as you
well know. Now run
along and accuse someone else, if it makes you
feel any better...
Yes. Thank you Dr. Lechter.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Imagine the day in the life of a cetain 5 year old
boy.
snip
Sorry to come in late on this thread, but is this Tom Pall's story,
and if so, is this a reposting, or is this new information? Thanks.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
Imagine the day in the life of a cetain 5 year old
boy.
snip
Sorry to come in late on this thread, but is this Tom Pall's story,
and if so, is this a reposting, or is this new information? Thanks.
lurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has *anyone* suggested Tom get a wrathful mantra/ishta rather than
a
peaceful one? Peaceful deity mantras are just peachy for your
average
Joe or Judy wanting to *transcend*, but special mentations require
special
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
lurkernomore20002000
Imagine the day in the life of a cetain 5 year
old
boy.
snip
Sorry to come in late on this thread, but is this
Tom Pall's story,
and if so, is this a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
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In reading some of the recent posts, and the feeling,
That the TMO avoids discussing emotional healing.
I have had some experience with emotional healing.
Feeling what is at the root of what is blocking emotions.
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In reading some of the recent posts, and the feeling,
That the TMO avoids discussing emotional healing.
I have had some experience
Comment below:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**SNIP**
Imagine the day in the life of a cetain 5 year old boy. An only
child, so no siblings to confide in or get help from.
The boy comes home from school. It's freezing cold, blizzard
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In reading some of the recent posts, and the feeling,
On Dec 7, 2005, at 3:41 PM, anonymousff wrote:Imagine the day in the life of a cetain 5 year old boy. An only child, so no siblings to confide in or get help from. The boy comes home from school. It's freezing cold, blizzard conditions outside. The boy is as usual made to strip completely
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