[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: But if Ravi is plain old seriously manic, and then gets good treatment and maintains it, then all this guru stuff will seem wild to him, too. In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread ditzyklanmail
] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: But if Ravi is plain old seriously manic, and then gets good treatment and maintains it, then all this guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: There is a case to be made here for an Indian guy, tired of the responsibilities of wife and children, trying to find an acceptable way of dumping them. In his culture, one of those ways is to declare yourself enlightened.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Rick -- and he's still never told us how he came to hear about

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:32 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: On Behalf Of TurquoiseB snip My point is that people seem to be stopping at the surface of this whole tempest in a pisspot, and not looking beneath the surface at its implications. I'm merely looking at them, and bringing

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Peter
--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 1:49 PM

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread gullible fool
r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 1:44 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gullible fool Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:39 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula I'm really out of the loop here, what with my last

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gullible fool Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:39 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula I'm really out of the loop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Turq: And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. Rick: I removed it. I think each interview stands on it's own, but if I were one of the people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Bhairitu
lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Turq: And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. Rick: I removed it. I think each interview stands on it's

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 3:25 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Turq: And now Ravi's interview has quietly been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: I had a conversation with Ravi this evening. I wish him the best in his endeavours. His awakening is such that it seems he is embarking on a new career, that of Raviguru. This is nothing other than what he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula - Minor, Important Adjustment

2010-05-22 Thread shukra69
you didnt think it best to advise him to seek the help of a mental health professional? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I had a conversation with Ravi this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula - Minor, Important Adjustment

2010-05-22 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Well, you can imagine that it was pretty lopsided conversation with one party doing most of the talking, and the other party doing most of the listeneing. My main advice to him was that if he calls himself a simple brahman, to live the life of a simple brahman. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread Jason
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:24 AM   As counterpart, based on my recent skims of the BATGAP forum, t'would seem that many there felt something off about Ravi, from Day One. The only person who in my reading

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread wayback71
all good if Ravi met with a disaster. --- On Sat, 5/22/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:24 AM   As counterpart, based on my recent skims of the BATGAP forum, t'would seem that many

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula But if Ravi is plain old seriously manic, and then gets good

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread anatol_zinc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula But if Ravi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread Joe
Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula But if Ravi is plain old seriously

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Yep, you wonder just how much of the whole story is bullshit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread Joe
retread time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread anatol_zinc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of anatol_zinc Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Authfriend makes some excellent points above and most likely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_z...@... wrote: snip in an earlier post authfriend make this observation: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Something to bear in mind is that certain kinds of psychosis can generate mystical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: snip But you know, the whole episode brings up a topic that has long fascinated me; and that is the very fine line that separates so-called enlightenment from borderline behavioral disorders such as paranoid schizophrenia.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread Joe
Right, my wife is a licensed behavioral therapist, not me, so my terms might not be quite right. However, I really do wonder about this fine line. Could it be that enlightenment is nothing more than sanctioned and approved paranoid schizophrenia? If so, did we pay a lot of money and spend a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Right, my wife is a licensed behavioral therapist, not me, so my terms might not be quite right. However, I really do wonder about this fine line. Could it be that enlightenment is nothing more than sanctioned and approved

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote: But if Ravi is plain old seriously manic, and then gets good treatment and maintains it, then all this guru stuff will seem wild to him, too. In fact, if he gets well, he will understand why he felt that way but also

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: On Behalf Of Joe Yep, you wonder just how much of the whole story is bullshit and what isn't. Could it be some kind of over-the-top weird devotional to Amma? A very poor advertisement if so. Hardly one she would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

2010-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:03 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Yep, you wonder just how much of the whole story is bullshit and what isn't. Could it be some kind of over

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula - Minor, Important Adjustment

2010-05-21 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: I had a conversation with Ravi this evening. I wish him the best in his endeavours. His awakening is such that it seems he is embarking on a new career, that of Raviguru. This is nothing other than what he has