[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Lawson wrote:] > > BTW, did you pay a $700 check made out to Deepak Chopra or was it > made out to the > non-profit Maharishi Ayurveda Fund (MAF)? > > Good question, I can't remember. I may have a paper trail >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had the opportunity to exchange a few sentences with Dr. Chopra > not too long after he left the TMO. He essentially said the same > thing. Iindicating that the JAMA lawsuit was the final straw. That was my und

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
> BTW, did you pay a $700 check made out to Deepak Chopra or was it made out to the > non-profit Maharishi Ayurveda Fund (MAF)? Good question, I can't remember. I may have a paper trail somewhere. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Just one of those wonderful double standards-- > er, I mean, contradictions--that Curtis is so > fond of, I guess." > > Or more technically "gay" for. However I am just as gay for your > wicked sense of humo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
"Just one of those wonderful double standards-- er, I mean, contradictions--that Curtis is so fond of, I guess." Or more technically "gay" for. However I am just as gay for your wicked sense of humor Judy so please don't feel gay deprived. My "beef" with Chopra revolved around him giving me a ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > I had the opportunity to exchange a few sentences with Dr. Chopra not > too long after he left the TMO. He essentially said the same thing. > Iindicating that the JAMA lawsuit was the final straw. He had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" abutilon108@ wrote: > > > > I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with > > Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of > > c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chopra is whatever he is. I DON'T CARE. > > What is becoming apparent, however, is what YOU > and the others who are writing hundreds of lines > to FFL demonizing him are. > > Angry, vindictive, obsessed, and above

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bingo. > > Selfless service is called that because it's > selfless; you're do the work because it gives > you joy to do the work. If you EXPECT something > "in returh," then it's not really selfless > service now, is i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > [...] > > The fact that you can overcome it now and limit > > your number of posts and yet claimed for years > > that you couldn't *because* of the brain dys- >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
Lawson, I just sent you an email to whatever email address you have registered with Yahoo (i.e., I sent it via the Web site).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > The fact that you can overcome it now and limit > your number of posts and yet claimed for years > that you couldn't *because* of the brain dys- > function makes it applicable. I claimed that my ADHD made itimpossi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just trying to point out that Lawson's seem- > ingly noble stance ain't quite as noble as he'd > like to portray. Using his line of reasoning, > everyone who ever contributed big bucks to one > of Maharishi's boondog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > We (including Chopra himself, quite consciously --I know his > > > publicists, remember) literally worked for years to make > > > "Deepak Cho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We (including Chopra himself, quite consciously --I know his > > publicists, remember) literally worked for years to make > > "Deepak Chopra" a household word in order to further > > the goals Maharishi Mahe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with > Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of > course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite > straightforward and ho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > wrote: > > > > > > > I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread curtisdeltablues
> We (including Chopra himself, quite consciously --I know his publicists, remember) > literally worked for years to make "Deepak Chopra" a household word in order to further > the goals Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the TMO and he took our work and betrayed us. But Lawson, you know what it is like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > wrote: > > > > > I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who > > > decided to become the media darling rather than sit at the feet >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who > decided to become the media darling rather than sit at the feet of the > guru. The entire thing with the rajas and whatnot is obviously

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > On Behalf Of sparaig > > > > > > Nyah. Except maybe on YOUR part, to not note she's correct > > > about this. Few people ever call Barry on his Jud

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Behalf Of sparaig > > > > Nyah. Except maybe on YOUR part, to not note she's correct > > about this. Few people ever call Barry on his Judy obsession > > except to joke about it, but many make hostile remarks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > > > Who the hell cares? He wasn't there when the Beatles were > > > in Rishikesh. H

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One thing I recall hearing is that Chopra was hoping to > include non-Ayurvedic (Chinese? Tibetan? His own?) > modalities in the Maharishi Ayurveda clinics and MMY > said no. This prompted Douliard to leave the Mahari

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did publicity work for Chopra for years. I'm on a first > name basis with both his original movement publicist, > Carla Linton (-Browne) and Muriel Nellis (who is still > his publicist, last I heard). I know where a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > wrote: > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > [...] > > > > Who the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > > > wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Peter
It's an ethical violation that is usually dealt with by the state within which you are licensed. But since Chopra holds no current medical license, it is a moot point. --- Marek Reavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Addendum: One thing that I didn't think to mention > is that it's not > against th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Addendum: One thing that I didn't think to mention is that it's not against the law to divulge or breach a confidentiality, although breach of contract, intentional infliction or emotional distress and a host of other causes of action would likely be brought in tort against anyone who did -- a

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sparaig Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo Nyah. Except maybe on YOUR

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > [...] > > That whole pastoral idyll in England Chopra > > describes having alone with MMY seems to have > > been some kind of wish-fulfillment fantasy. > > Fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: [...] > > > Who the hell cares? He wasn't there when the Beatles were in Rishikesh. > > > H

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: [...] > > She's often speculated that its the fact she's a *woman* that > > draws certain people's ire. I often think so also. > > Appreciate the support, but I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > That whole pastoral idyll in England Chopra > describes having alone with MMY seems to have > been some kind of wish-fulfillment fantasy. > Fascinating... Where did you hear this? Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In F

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > > wrote: > > > > > > Judy, the only person who cares if if was a ""Gotta Get Judy" > > > pos

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > > > wrote: > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- claudiouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >.. And I was > > told that MMY said to Chopra much the same thing > > he'd said to Ravi > > Shankar - if you need to teach go ahead but we must > > go our separate > > way

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Towards the end MMY was clearly irritated by Chopra - I remember > seeing a video where Chopra was speaking to the camera and MMY was in > the background and clearly noticeable were subtle side to side > movements o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > The whole symptomatology is impossibly vague. And maybe it wasn't > actually pancreatitis but just a bad pain in the gut symptomatic of > the heart attack. Which would lead you down a whole 'nother path. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > > wrote: > > > > > Your and Judith's remarks about Chopra's (quite open and honest > > > IM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Your and Judith's remarks about Chopra's (quite open and honest IMO) article > in the > Huffington Post reveal an obvious agenda against him. > > In the past day we've had Bevan talking about Maharishi being w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- aut

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with > Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of > course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite > straightforward and h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Peter, it might be that being treated by a psychologist or psychiatrist is itself something of an admission that the patient has mental health issues and that carries something of a stigma that going to a medical doctor doesn't, and consequently there's that extra proviso. But that's only my s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Actually, since so many appeals (and brickbats) have > > already been addressed to (or thrown at) me alone, I'm > > not inclined to entertain even appeals add

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Peter
Maybe doctor-patient confidentiality is stricter for psychologists than for medical doctors. --- Marek Reavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shemp, I'm not an expert here. As has been pointed > out and based on > what Chopra has written, the times he attended on > Maharishi in a > physician cont

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Shemp, I'm not an expert here. As has been pointed out and based on what Chopra has written, the times he attended on Maharishi in a physician context was in India and England, both of those instances would have put him out of the jurisdictional reach of any U.S. court. Maybe not outside of r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, since so many appeals (and brickbats) have > already been addressed to (or thrown at) me alone, I'm > not inclined to entertain even appeals addressed to > both of us until after I see a bunch of them address

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with > Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of > course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite > straightforward and ho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
I read your website on the subject. Earliest pictures of Lakshmi are Buddhist coins of Gaja or Elephant Lakshmi from 100 CE. The Shri Suktam is considered late Vedic at placed at 400 BCE. If you know the Shree Suktam then you know the original 16 quatrains have the associated letters of the Sh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread abutilon108
I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite straightforward and honest. Clearly Chopra is reflecting on the contradictory impressions he is left with of M

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > wrote: > > > > Judy, the only person who cares if if was a ""Gotta Get Judy" > > post is you and maybe Barry. Perhaps you excercise tremendous > > constraint

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread shempmcgurk
Marek: It would be nice to hear a legal opinion on the following: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/165362 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant and > pointles

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hagen J. Holtz" > wrote: > > > > > > I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras came > > > from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy, the only person who cares if if was a ""Gotta Get Judy" > post is you and maybe Barry. Perhaps you excercise tremendous > constraint and don't reply as often as you'd like to Barry's > posts. All I can sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hagen J. Holtz" wrote: > > > > I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras came > > from the so-called mantra shastras. I have never been studying > > them, but he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hagen J. Holtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras came from the > so-called mantra shastras. I have never been studying them, but he said that this is a complete source, which may even contain the mantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Hagen wrote: > I heard Maharishi once been saying that the TM-Mantras > came from the so-called mantra shastras. I have never > been studying them, but he said that this is a complete > source, which may even contain the mantras of physical > immortality, which have once been carried off by som

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Kirk wrote: > Bija mantras exist in many tantras. > Maybe so, but aren't most of the tantras relativlely recent? Most of the works which mention bija mantras are recent compositions. For example, the Tripura Upanishad was probably composed as recently as the 18th century. My point is that the i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
. - Original Message - From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo Kirk wrote: > I also under the auspices of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > The very assumption that there *was* a poisoning > > is the part of Chopra's story that sounds weird > > to me. He's a doctor; how could he even suggest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 14, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant and pointless feuding. Obvious to one and all, irritating to the max, incapable of being ended because the 'other' always starts it up again. Turq posts with a broad (and often chee

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Judy, the only person who cares if if was a ""Gotta Get Judy" post is you and maybe Barry. Perhaps you excercise tremendous constraint and don't reply as often as you'd like to Barry's posts. All I can say is what has been said by many, many people who post here, myself included -- it's borin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
t: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo > Kirk wrote: >> I also under the auspices of the Kanchi Shank >> and other Sri Vidya devotees was the only white >> guy out of a hundred Hindus to be in the first >&

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It'll be obvious to one and all at FFL when Sat Yuga finally dawns. Another nomination for Quote Of The Week. The first one was pretty damn goog though... You folks crack me up.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > wrote: > > > > Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant > > and pointless feuding. Obvious to one and all, irritating to > > the max, in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Kirk wrote: > I also under the auspices of the Kanchi Shank > and other Sri Vidya devotees was the only white > guy out of a hundred Hindus to be in the first > Saundaraya Lahiri Japa Yajna > So, you're thinking that there is an oral tradition in India and that the TM bija mantras are derived

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant > and pointless feuding. Obvious to one and all, irritating to > the max, incapable of being ended because the 'other' always > starts it up again. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2008, at 9:15 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > (So much for Barry's umpteenth vow, made just > > yesterday, not to respond to me. This is the way > > he usually sneaks back in, by ostensibly > > responding to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Marek Reavis
Sal, who here hasn't asked these two to stop with the incessant and pointless feuding. Obvious to one and all, irritating to the max, incapable of being ended because the 'other' always starts it up again. Turq posts with a broad (and often cheeky) brush and Judy can't resist calling him on e

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 14, 2008, at 9:15 AM, authfriend wrote: (So much for Barry's umpteenth vow, made just yesterday, not to respond to me. This is the way he usually sneaks back in, by ostensibly responding to someone else who has responded to me and demonizing me in those comments, without mentioning my nam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maharishi, after all, did the same thing. We have > > NO IDEA what the "real" story of Guru Dev was. > > All we have is Maharishi's view of who and what > > he was. And that view is often at odds with the > > view of other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread nablusoss1008
ubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold > Story: Recollections of a Fo > > > > USA is still considered a western country, at least by many standards. > > Of course. And so are all the countries in Europe. Not all but most. Though I would not count the new members of the EC as european. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Houston, I think we have a problem. At the very > least, Chopra has some questions to answer. In addition to Chopra's contradictory stories about why the Beatles left Rishikesh, and the apparent falsehoods in Chopra's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This pretty much sums up my impression of the man also. 3 doctors in > > the ambulance, and only himself, after the car reached the hospital > > was able to revive a "dead" body ? Sounds very strange. > > > -That sou

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo USA is still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Larry
this reads like a 21st century rig veda - imagine the commentaries on this piece written 5000 years in the future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maharishi, after all, did the same thing. We have > > NO IDEA what the "real" story of Guru Dev was. > > Al

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The very assumption that there *was* a poisoning > is the part of Chopra's story that sounds weird > to me. He's a doctor; how could he even suggest > such a thing if no one ever did the tests to > support that theory?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread nablusoss1008
ups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold > Story: Recollections of a Fo > > > > Yes, and the american "purusha" that poisened him. > > The story didn't identify the suspect as an American Purusha. Just a > We

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
Kirk, did you notice that Chopra, as a mouthpiece for > MMY's teaching, got it wrong a lot? I used to listen > to him at various TMO events and realize that he > didn't have a clear understanding of what Maharishi > was talking about. I think this is because he didn't > spend all that time watching

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
Maharishi, after all, did the same thing. We have > NO IDEA what the "real" story of Guru Dev was. > All we have is Maharishi's view of who and what > he was. And that view is often at odds with the > view of other people who were students of Guru > Dev's at the same time Mahesh was. The only > rea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Deepak's credibility in this story comes down to this: > > Is it true what he says about Maharishi being incommunicado > with the public (i.e., "us", we the meditators) for such a > long period of time? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Pitoy Ko Dako
Was MMY was incommunicado between August 1, 1991 - August 1,1992? Did MMY move to Vlodrop late 1992? Where is Neil Patterson? Nandkishore? Jerry Jarvis? etc.? Too many rumors. Can someone please write a factual "Inside the TMO" book? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" wrote: > > > > ...even Bevan will be hard pressed to remember his motivation > > soon > > > > and within ten years it's likely this first TM Movement will > > be bas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Peter
--- Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and I've always wondered about the > >> strong anti-Chopra feelings I've seen expressed > >> on groups like this one. > > --Well, Ayurveda became a focal point in the mid > eighties. First we saw > all the vaidyas, then later yet we got Chopra for a >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > So, geeze, what do you make of the fact that Chopra's > > > given two conflicting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Damn! You're on a real roll today, Kirk. > Well said. That's it exactly. Yeah I agree. Kirk is serving up some mad intellectual gumbo this trip. Keep it up brother! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ki

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...even Bevan will be hard pressed to remember his motivation > soon > > and within ten years it's likely this first TM Movement will > be basically over > > I believe that Deepak shows that even those closest t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Geez, Chopra was well after my time in the TMO > > and, if I remember correctly, after yours as well. > > Therefore I have no feelings about him one way

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
hout a hub for their spokinesses. - Original Message - From: "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo >I blame Chopr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
and I've always wondered about the >> strong anti-Chopra feelings I've seen expressed >> on groups like this one. --Well, Ayurveda became a focal point in the mid eighties. First we saw all the vaidyas, then later yet we got Chopra for a spell. he seemed to me like a latecomer to the TMO wh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
This pretty much sums up my impression of the man also. 3 doctors in > the ambulance, and only himself, after the car reached the hospital > was able to revive a "dead" body ? Sounds very strange. -That sounds strange to you? That sounds strange. But Nablusoss1008 is Aliester Crowley reinca

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Kirk
Everyone can be pretty sure Bevan will push the Maharishi envelope as superlatively as anything Maharishi did. It will still be fun to watch. this is one reason I have been excited by the TM Movement stories my whole life; at least it's totally fascinating metadrama.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I blame Chopra for that as much as anyone. Chopra is the one who > > decided to become the media darling rather than sit at the feet > > of the guru. The entire thing with the rajas and whatnot is > > o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread Peter
--- claudiouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >.. And I was > told that MMY said to Chopra much the same thing > he'd said to Ravi > Shankar - if you need to teach go ahead but we must > go our separate > ways.. Interesting that both Chopra & Ravi Shankar > featured in > commentaries about MMY aft

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra: The Maharishi Years - The Untold Story: Recollections of a Fo

2008-02-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 > > > > Yes, and the american "purusha" that poisened him. > > The story didn't identify the suspect as an American Purusha. > Just a Westerner. The very assumption that there *was* a

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