Rick (or anyone with a finger on the pulse of
the 'ru community in Fairfield), have you noticed
any blowback from the recertification
and pundit debacles of the past few years?
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Rick Archer wrote:
Many of these 550 people [on the recertification
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 6/26/06 2:57 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick (or anyone with a finger on the pulse of
the 'ru community in Fairfield), have you noticed
any blowback from the recertification
and pundit debacles
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That's easy on Yahoo dude!
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That's easy on Yahoo dude!
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That's easy on Yahoo dude!
OK Vaj, I get it :)
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Had there been any uptick in the exodus, however,
you would have probably noticed. Just wondered
if enough people throw up their hands for it to register.
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On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote:
I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with
the TMO. What
happened? I saw him
about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine
person.
He was to be the one for Ayurveda.
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On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
Chopra is such a public figure, who would still be
just another
M.D. in Boston if MMY had not given him the
knowledge of Ayurveda and
other Vedic knowledge
So you actually believe that Chopra was
On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
Isn't interesting how the TMO wants to
enslave everyone that has value for them?
It is interesting but also very sad.
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It is interesting but also very
sad.-It is very interesting. Is it
enslaving? There's a good bit of choice involved. Much of it is
moral choice. MMY appeals to peoples moral choices, as any religious
figure does. My guess is that many of these, so called, slaves are would
be just as
Oh and then they slapped the name "Maharishi" on front of
it.It's business and a money making scheme. It has nothing to do with
"purity of the tradition" or rescuing Ayuved.Ayur-greed.
yeah, that was my complaint
too.
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When I look back at the Movement I see myself and my desires, not
really much more than that.
Oh yeah baby, the smoke clears and what do we see?
Yaw cookin wit gas now, sucka!
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As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the
bargain
everything will be fine.
Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always
sent the correct percentage back and the correct
percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a few
years until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry.
-Peter
Well, for the
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on 4/5/05 12:05 PM, Peter Sutphen at
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Can you cite a few examples where they have kept
up
their end of the bargain?
L B S
When I started teaching TM in 1973, National
always
sent the correct percentage back
on 4/5/05 12:48 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
until someone sucked the ATR credit account
dry.
-Peter
That someone was MMY. He ordered it.
Rick, do you know that for sure? I know Jerry Jarvis
was really furious about it. Remember the letter they
sent...It is such a joy
Yes, I understand Peter.
As long as you continue to comparmentalize wholeness into little
domains, and feel the need to keep tracking all your different
dharmas blazing in your mind, you will continue to feel the need to
play dharma cop -- and to continue to cite people for your own
internal
My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it - that MMY ordered
the
draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason Jerry was no
longer
welcome in the TMO - he had expressed - in front of MMY - his reservations
about taking
earned ATR points away from
on 4/5/05 1:10 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it - that MMY
ordered the
draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason Jerry was
no longer
welcome in the TMO - he had expressed - in front of MMY -
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While I will let others comment on your history, my reference to
Brahman was incidental to my main point. I will rephrase it,
where in the Universe is the problem.
Just curious, with so many references to
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I asked Punditji and he said he is the course. Go
figure.
-Peter
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PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on
going ?
JohnY
---Thank you.
( Great
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on 4/5/05 12:05 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up
their end of the bargain?
L B S
When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always
sent
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on 4/5/05 1:10 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it -
that MMY
ordered the
draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason
signs of excessive meditation, he finally
flipped out:
http://tinyurl.com/4dphk
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who is this guy? surely he has another name?
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signs of excessive meditation, he finally
flipped out:
http://tinyurl.com/4dphk
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who is this guy? surely he has another name?
Yes, it was once mentioned on this list by Rich Archer (IIRC).
He's
on 4/4/05 12:45 AM, m2smart4u2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
signs of excessive meditation, he finally
flipped out:
http://tinyurl.com/4dphk
snip
who is this guy? surely he has another name?
Ted Nevels. I wouldn't say he's flipped out. I've spoken with him in the
last year and he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 4/4/05 12:45 AM, m2smart4u2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
signs of excessive meditation, he finally
flipped out:
http://tinyurl.com/4dphk
snip
who is this guy? surely he has another name?
Ted
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Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that Chopra's ego, big as all
outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so he left. A good
portrait of his
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SNIP
Why does someone who once was with the TMO have to
labeled as pathological when they leave it? In my
encounters with Chopra I found him to be a very decent
guy, far from the egomaniac that some people try to
On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
Chopra is such a public figure, who would still be just another
M.D. in Boston if MMY had not given him the knowledge of Ayurveda and
other Vedic knowledge
So you actually believe that Chopra was trained in Ayurveda by
Maharishi? Interesting.
I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What happened? I
saw him
about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person.
:
On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:
Chopra is such a public figure, who would still be just another
M.D. in Boston if MMY had not
On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote:
I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What
happened? I saw him
about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person.
He was to be the one for Ayurveda. Just before he was to go out to be
announced at a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote:
I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What
happened? I saw him
about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person.
He was to be the one for
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On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote:
I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO.
What
happened? I saw him
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I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach my own
children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it
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I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach
my own
children the Trancendental Meditation Program
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I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach my own
children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it today, or
go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else find
this
On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote:
if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards
world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin with.
Ain't no money in the woods.
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The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going to
happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm for
this recert program is muted, and unlikely to have a very long shelf
life because of its
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On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote:
if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards
world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin
with.
Ain't no money in the woods.
or chicks willing to
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on 4/3/05 8:33 AM, jyouells2000 at
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The fact that the Vedic City course is the only
one that's going to
happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff
that the enthusiasm for
this recert program is muted, and unlikely
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As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain
everything will be fine.
Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up their end of the bargain?
L B S
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Apologies for butting in, but they ..?
Who?
The TMO as a rational entity?
The TMO is a stage, a sprititual battle field - it has no existence of
its own.
People may chose to join the play for while, but to put up ones tent
on Kurukshetra...?
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Many of these 550 people may have given up
jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they would
be able to support themselves
You
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Maybe it was all just April Fools!
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From:
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:22
AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded
of April 4th deadline
On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff
wrote
Okay, I am replying to my own posting (Frasier, you may not be far
away from seeing a new client ringing your doorbell).
I was suddenly stung by guilt by the posting below (there may be some
truth to what is said in it) - but consider this:
You're invited to take up a position in an
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On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote:
if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards
world enlightenment then he would have stayed
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Apologies for butting in, but they ..?
Who?
The TMO as a rational entity?
The TMO is a stage, a sprititual battle field - it has no existence of
its own.
People may chose to join the play for while, but
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay, I am replying to my own posting (Frasier, you may not be far
away from seeing a new client ringing your doorbell).
I was suddenly stung by guilt by the posting below (there may be some
truth to what is said
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If you were to approach a real business on the basis you are
suggesting, then real
businessmen would question your judgment. If one has examined the
track record of a
company and concluded that (according to
It could do more harm than good. Many of these 550 people may have
given upjobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they
would beable to support themselves on $4,000 a month. If that ends of
fizzling out,a big chuck of the remaining core may end up
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Quite a few of us here have performed the experiment you suggest
(perhaps with more
excitement than caution) and consider the current proposal a bad
risk, at best.
L B S
Come on Charlie Brown. I promise I won't
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That people some people will probably be financially ruined by this
program is sad, even though they are, in effect, volunteers. That a
big chuck of the remaining core may end up disuillusioned is a
good
Congrats!
I've been keeping this argument on the shelf myself, you beat me to
using it.
It's really the final argument - case closed.
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By whining that if this company plan does not work: Oh man, we will
become even greater whiners than we were before.?
If you were to approach a real business on the basis you are
suggesting,
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Congrats!
I've been keeping this argument on the shelf myself, you beat me to
using it.
It's really the final argument - case closed.
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Many of these 550 people may have given up
jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full
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By whining that if this company plan does not
work: Oh man, we will
become even greater whiners than we were
before.?
If you were to
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Johny Bob,
I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course,
you would probably call it 'being
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I'll present 2 options, feel free to chose:
a. If you have used Vedic match you would have come with better #s.
Your thinking is too linear, the solution comes from a higher
dimension.
b. The whole cert program is just for PR purpose and more importantly
to check the world consciousness. 550
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Johny Bob,
I'm surprised by your
On Apr 3, 2005, at 10:24 PM, anonymousff wrote:
I'll present 2 options, feel free to chose:
a. If you have used Vedic match you would have come with better #s.
Your thinking is too linear, the solution comes from a higher
dimension.
b. The whole cert program is just for PR purpose and
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Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that Chopra's ego, big as all
outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so he left. A good
portrait of his arrogance and bizarre behavior is in Esquire magazine
issue of Oct 1995, Deepak
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I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach my own
children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it today, or
go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else find
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