On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:06 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:Vaj wrote: snipped It's also worth mentioning that in traditional meditation instruction, pranayama comes before meditation and learning how to sit properly comes first. Once people understand why these are important, then it
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What is Toastmasters?
Tom T:
URL http://www.toastmasters.org/
We did this as a service and attended every other Saturday for three
and a half years. We offered our time from 1PM till 7PM. About half of
the group has graduated from Maximum security to medium or minimum
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It's also worth mentioning that in traditional meditation instruction,
pranayama comes before meditation and learning how to sit properly
comes first. Once people understand why these are important, then it
makes sense. And it's helpful for people to learn some basics of
I agree with you. Asanas and pranayama before meditation makes a big
difference.
Lou Valentino. Check out my website regarding 21st Century Yoga. Namaste.Astrological Varieties
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A few years ago my wife and I were mentoring a Toastmaster Club at the
Maximim Security Prison in Fort Madison. ...This man was in for life for a
series of brutal rapes. Tom
No chance his name is John Knox, is there? Black guy, would be about 50
Just a note that bija seed mantras are short because they are meant for
transcendence of
the vertical approach to meditation. The longer ones are for material
benefits or chanting to
one of the waves of the ocean. Astrological mantras are used in this way. A
mantra for
Mercury and the
Vaj wrote:
On Nov 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
If you accept that bija mantras of goddesses bring the
boon of the deity, you should receive the benefit corresponding to
that deity, tempered on your own karmic limitations. And since it is
a bija mantra, it should also awaken
Vaj wrote:
On Nov 4, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
--- Vaj wrote:
if the elements are balanced, you will
experience less issues with imbalances
arising from your meditation
practice: any meditation practice.
Understood. It makes sense. That's why I do asanas
before my
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Vaj wrote:
On Nov 4, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
--- Vaj wrote:
if the elements are balanced, you will
experience less issues with imbalances
arising from your meditation
practice: any
On Nov 5, 2006, at 2:29 PM, Bhairitu wrote:Vaj wrote: On Nov 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: If you accept that bija mantras of goddesses bring the "boon" of the deity, you should receive the benefit corresponding to that deity, tempered on your own karmic limitations. And since it
Vaj wrote:
On Nov 5, 2006, at 2:29 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Vaj wrote:
On Nov 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
If you accept that bija mantras of goddesses bring the
boon of the deity, you should receive the benefit corresponding to
that deity, tempered on your own karmic
On Nov 5, 2006, at 3:11 PM, sparaig wrote:We don't want people to have bad experiences from their meditation so great care is taken. Doing TM checking of hundreds of people there were some I felt should have been told to stop meditating and perhaps just do asanas as they were becoming
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On Nov 5, 2006, at 3:11 PM, sparaig wrote:
We don't want people to have bad experiences from their meditation so
great care is taken. Doing TM checking of hundreds of people
there were
some I felt should have been
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
A few years ago my wife and I were mentoring a Toastmaster Club at the
Maximim Security Prison in Fort Madison. ...This man was in for life
for a series of brutal rapes. Tom
Patrick Gilliam WRites;
No chance his name is John Knox, is there? Black
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[...]
. When I
asked what it meant, he said TM's mantras
are Hindu gods that sap some energy from
people using the mantras, hence the user
gets some good but pays some price. He
said just about any Indian
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1. A Fairfield friend and former MIU classmate
whom I admire for his level-headedness thinks
this latest round of activity in Fairfield and
Vedic City is the real thing. I really think this
is the center of the
On Nov 4, 2006, at 12:19 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] . When I asked what it meant, he said TM's mantras are Hindu gods that sap some energy from people using the mantras, hence the user gets some good but pays some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Patrick Gillam wrote:
snip
2. Another Fairfield friend and jyotishi says
Maharishi cleverly timed the arrival of the
pundits to coincide with major planetary
transitions that of themselves will bring
Mea culpa.
I confused Saturn's position with Jupiter's
in my retelling. The jyotishi is not at fault.
The essence of the message remains, which
is that big planets have made big changes,
which will have noticeable effects on the ground.
The deeper discussion seems to be, was the
pundits'
Comments interleaved below.
--- Vaj wrote:
Is it possible your chiropractor is biased against TM? For example,
could he be from a religion that finds the use of Hinduism offensive
or verboten?
He's not affiliated with any religion per se, but
he attributes all his prescriptions and
--- sparaig wrote:
My doctor said
last year TM had a negative two aspect, but
lately the price of practice is going up - the
mantras are taking more from their users.
U...Yeah. And he knows this... how?
I didn't ask. I'll quiz him next time, if the time
permits. This level of
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The deeper discussion seems to be, was the
pundits' arrival facilitated by these planetary
transitions, or is Maharishi taking advantage
of the planets' movements to ascribe changes
on the ground to the
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I could use some eloquence. Where do I get this Saraswati bija?
om aim sreem hreem saraswati devyai namaha
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The current planetary changes would be bad for America as shown by the
highly respected Grimes America chart. The urgency of creating a group
is to counter that. Maharshi doesn't need Jyotish himself to be aware
of that danger.
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The deeper discussion seems to be, was the
pundits' arrival facilitated by these planetary
transitions, or is Maharishi taking advantage
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
Patrick Gillam wrote:
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2. Another Fairfield friend and jyotishi says
Maharishi cleverly timed the arrival of the
pundits to coincide
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The current planetary changes would be bad for America as shown by the
highly respected Grimes America chart.
What is the Grimes America chart? I'd like to be among those respecting it.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
Patrick Gillam wrote:
snip
2. Another Fairfield friend and
Patrick Gillam wrote:
Mea culpa.
I confused Saturn's position with Jupiter's
in my retelling. The jyotishi is not at fault.
The essence of the message remains, which
is that big planets have made big changes,
which will have noticeable effects on the ground.
The deeper discussion
sparaig wrote:
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wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
Patrick Gillam wrote:
snip
2. Another Fairfield friend and jyotishi says
Maharishi cleverly timed the arrival of the
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sparaig wrote:
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wrote:
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Patrick Gillam wrote:
snip
2.
On Nov 4, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:If you accept that bija mantras of goddesses bring the "boon" of the deity, you should receive the benefit corresponding to that deity, tempered on your own karmic limitations. And since it is a bija mantra, it should also awaken kundalini.
On Nov 4, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:Isn't there a difference between modern and Indian astrology as far as where teh houses are? I know there's a difference between the sidereal zodiac used in Jyotish and the tropical zodiac used in western astrology. I don't know how that difference
sparaig wrote:
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sparaig wrote:
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Patrick
Vaj wrote:
On Nov 4, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
Isn't there a difference between modern and Indian astrology as
far as where teh houses are?
I know there's a difference between the sidereal zodiac used in
Jyotish and the tropical zodiac used in western astrology. I don't
know
On Nov 4, 2006, at 5:54 PM, Bhairitu wrote:Vaj wrote: On Nov 4, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Isn't there a difference between modern and Indian astrology as far as where teh houses are? I know there's a difference between the sidereal zodiac used in Jyotish and the tropical zodiac
Mantras are just relative vehicles for transcending.
There's all kinds of seductive celestial beautiful
sattvic bullshit that you can get lost in for a
billion years. But once the mind is clear of major
vasanas through years and years of asanas, pranayama,
meditaing, samayama, sattvic food,
On Nov 4, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:Comments interleaved below. --- Vaj wrote: Gillam wrote: do vedic traditions say a bija deity demands a vig on each transaction? I'm not sure what you mean by "vig" or if misspelt, what you mean. A "vig" is a vigorish, of fee. I used that
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Mantras are just relative vehicles for transcending.
There's all kinds of seductive celestial beautiful
sattvic bullshit that you can get lost in for a
billion years. But once the mind is clear of major
vasanas through
On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:01 PM, Peter wrote:Mantras are just relative vehicles for transcending. There's all kinds of seductive celestial beautiful sattvic bullshit that you can get lost in for a billion years. But once the mind is clear of major vasanas through years and years of asanas, pranayama,
A vig is a vigorish, of fee.
High five for using this term!
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wrote:
Comments interleaved below.
--- Vaj wrote:
Gillam wrote:
do vedic traditions say a bija deity demands a
vig on each transaction?
I'm
--- Vaj wrote:
if the elements are balanced, you will
experience less issues with imbalances
arising from your meditation
practice: any meditation practice.
Understood. It makes sense. That's why I do asanas
before my morning meditation; to skip them is to have
a crappy meditation.
On Nov 4, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Vaj wrote: if the elements are balanced, you will experience less issues with imbalances arising from your meditation practice: any meditation practice. Understood. It makes sense. That's why I do asanas before my morning meditation;
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[...]
Well consider SSRS and how he evolved what was TM. A prerequisite for
his meditation method is his pranayama technique. Millions more have
learned this than TM did in 50 years. I think once the reasons are
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