--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
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Spiritual development, call it what you will, seems directed
to allowing a person to have a single irrefutable experience
that
On Mar 12, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
There are experiences, but do all experiences reside in thinking (that is
conceptual thinking, naming things etc.)? Conceptual thinking creates an
analogue of non-verbal, direct experience, a description that seems to have
some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
Part of the problem is there are entire swaths of our own mental
landscape that we're not familiar with. In a mental technique, as
awareness of mentation expands into other areas, there's always the
danger that we'll attach some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
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Just curious. Do you find all channeled knowledge as bunk?
Just asking. I don't have an ulterior motive. I have on
occassion gotten value from this venue (reading books) in the
past, but haven't gone that route
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
snip
Just curious. Do you find all channeled knowledge as bunk?
Just asking. I don't have an ulterior motive. I have on
occassion gotten value from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
snip
Just curious. Do you find all channeled knowledge as bunk?
Just asking. I don't have an ulterior motive. I have on
occassion gotten value from
*When I say resonated I am saying that among the Hindu pantheon of deities
it also the feminine I have had the greatest affinity for, as in Durga. I
don't think she would not fit anyone's description of dainty (-:
Durga kicks ass! Very cool - yeah, I have been finding it fascinating for
On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:56 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
Just curious. Do you find all channeled knowledge as bunk? Just asking.
I don't have an ulterior motive. I have on occassion gotten value from this
venue (reading books) in the past, but haven't gone that route (or any route
for that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
I realize that people writing from the level of discursive thoughts
can say very helpful, insightful, wise and worthwhile things. That's
what a good fiction author does. So it's no surprise that just about
anyone can do it in a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
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Just curious. Do you find all channeled knowledge as bunk?
Just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
The question is, are these insights you couldn't have
found from non-channeled sources? Descriptions of changing
patterns in the course of spiritual development are,
forgive me, a dime a dozen, as are feminine perspectives
on
On Mar 13, 2011, at 6:09 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
I realize that people writing from the level of discursive thoughts can say
very helpful, insightful, wise and worthwhile things. That's what a good
fiction author does. So
Thanks. Now wouldn't that make a good opening scene for a movie!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
You can read most of the chapter (Wheel of Protection, p. 193) on
Amazon for free. What I'd do is go to Look Inside, put in the word
oracle and look for the page
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
The question is, are these insights you couldn't have
found from non-channeled sources? Descriptions of changing
patterns in the course of spiritual
Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote [from various posts; hopefully I am not scrambling
his intent by this selection]:
Part of the problem is there are entire swaths of our own mental landscape that
we're not familiar with. In a mental technique, as awareness of mentation
expands into other areas,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
And more power to you. Insight's where you find it. The
only way it might matter, it seems to me, would be if one
gave special weight to channeled insights because of the
purported source (which you're not doing), rather than
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@...
wrote:
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Spiritual development, call it what you will, seems directed
to allowing a person to have a single irrefutable experience
that settles the matter of the mystery of existence on the
basis of their own
But enlightenment is not a thought process, it's not
of the mind...It's getting beyond the mind, as
experienced by transcending thought, by transcending
the mantra...
Anartaxius:
...experience does contain thoughts regardless of whether
one is before or after that event.
WillyTex willytex@... Wrote:
Only one statement can be made with certainty concerning
Ultimate Reality: we *assume* that we exist.
It's obvious that our entire existence is based on
thinking, ergo, consciousness or an experience of awareness
that we call thinking or reasoning.
We are aware of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@...
wrote:
WillyTex willytex@ Wrote:
Only one statement can be made with certainty concerning
Ultimate Reality: we *assume* that we exist.
It's obvious that our entire existence is based on
thinking, ergo,
I have a few comments to make to those who responded to my first post to this
forum before this thread is closed.
Thank you for responding. Attempting to figure out what is going on here will
probably take me a bit of time.
There are obviously persons on the forum who seem to know each
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@...
wrote:
I agree we need some conditioning to refine our discrimination towards
that we are seeking. As for putting that coherently so that everyone
gets it? I dunno, a fool's errand perhaps- Seems like if someone is
going to get it,
Kudos to you Ravi for reading these long articles. Who said anything
about some kind of ADD for the Ravster? No sir.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
Nice article.
I would say not to intellectualize or philosophize too much(sushka
tarka
- dry logic),
Ravi Yogi wrote: [In a response to a rather long post about the supposed 'path'
of enlightenment, not repeated here]
The important factors in the non-journey journey are:
* Three S's of spirituality - Satsang (company of the enlightened),
Seva
(service to Guru or God)and
below: ...is there a generic way to describe the journey of Enlightenment?.
Yes, How to Attain Enlightenment...by James Swarz at
http://www.shiningworld.com.
...
Then read Back to the Truth, 5000 Years of Advaita by Dennis Waite,
http://www.advaita.org/uk
...
Along with the 3 S's of course.
(snip)
One would think that a group that discussed at length
recently no mantra, no thoughts would have a bit more room for a few more
thoughts.
More thoughts on the subject would provide the intellect with more room to
play, to attempt to 'pin down' what enlightenment 'Is'...
But
Hi Xeno, I've been enjoying your posts, though I am not sure there is a way to
greatly simplify the language and ways we discuss enlightenment. Somehow the
desire to get there leads both to the diversity of expression about the
pathless path, and the agility to ultimately make one's way through
Thanks Steve, but I have never had or been accused of ADD. I patiently
read emails unless I see deceptive content which mock and ridicule
others belief - usually from the troika, then it really triggers my
real ADD - Attention Detest (for) Dimwits.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
Ravi Yogi uses a number of special
terms in his response to me, most of which I do not know, and was kind
enough to
amplify them so I could grasp what they connoted.
Sorry I just used them so I could come
Nice article.
I would say not to intellectualize or philosophize too much(sushka tarka
- dry logic), otherwise you will just end deceiving yourself - a la
Vakrabuddhi or the Trickster.
A thirsty man doesn't start reading books on water, types of water, the
manufacturers, suppliers, etc. - he
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