Re: CLS for Monday May 30, 2005

2005-05-30 Thread felv
Yes, Seagull was one of the two in the closet. His buddy, Spirit has already been adopted and is doing GREAT! There was nothing they could do for Seagull. No, I didn't have him still, he was already at the other rescue in MA (I don't have an adoption center, so after I rescue and do basic ve

Re: average lifespan

2005-05-30 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
My kitties lifespan was a wonderful loving fun filled 6 months old (Snowball) he had the virus for we are assuming 1 month and then when he was fixed the anesthetic actived the virus then it was only 1 more month of love.   Amber on the other hand had in dorminate in her body she tested negative tw

RE: New Member

2005-05-30 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Welcome Michelle, It is a bad situation finding us this way, but this group has helped me far more than words can say, I lost a FeLV+ cat January 3rd of this year, and since I have one more in my group, I do mix my + (Amber) with my negatives which are the number of 8 all together. In regards to FI

Re: CLS for Monday May 30, 2005

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
Aw Jenn, that sucks. These were the two in the closet, right? Did you still have Seagull when he passed? I'm so sorry. Was the other Persian still with him? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For next week, can you add Bones to the Special Needs listing? She needs positive energy and prayers to re

Re: CLS for Monday May 30, 2005

2005-05-30 Thread felv
For next week, can you add Bones to the Special Needs listing? She needs positive energy and prayers to recover from her spinal injuries and be free of pain.   Also, Seagull, one of my last batch of rescues (two Persians), died yesterday. I sent out a separate email to the list requesting he

Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
Thank you Nina, I will replace it if I ever need it for the furkids again it is getting pretty old. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service htt

Re: AC willing to monitor list - James

2005-05-30 Thread felv
I'm skeptical, but more than willing to keep an open mind. It's not that I don't believe in it (I do!), it's just that a group of very desperate fur-parents is a prime location for a mean-spirited predator to prey on our desperation. I have a hard time trusting other humans, I don't play wel

Re: average lifespan

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
The three I lost back in the early 90's were age 5, 7 and 9 years old. Mikie (5) and Skeeter (7) to cancer and Frankie (9) to anemia, I wish I had known then what I know now :( -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/

Re: average lifespan

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
Bailey was tested positive at 5 months of age, he turned 10 years old in May. He has been healthy with no problems until last eyar when he was diagnosed with stomastisis. We pulled most of his teeth and he is eating good again and is doing very well. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by

CLS for Monday May 30, 2005

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi All, Sorry this is so late, I was out most of the afternoon. My deepest sympathies to those who have lost a furchild, they are with you forever in your heart. My prayers for those with sick furkids, that they start to feel better and get well soon. Take care all ... FeLV Candle Li

Re: outcome of anemia - for amy

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Amy, No I didn't see your post as judgemental, I was just stating a truism for me, the only time I can lose any weight is when I am sick, because food is the last thing on my mind (wish I got sick alittle more often :). And while it is OK for people to go without food for days, for cats

Re: average lifespan

2005-05-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Yo Jenn - My darling Calawalla Banana Boo-boo was 3 years old. (2004) My sweet Mittens was maybe 2.5 yrs. (2003) My baby Mr. Black kitty was FIV and FELV+ - vet said he was 18. I don't believe it. Think he was a bit younger than that - 10 yrs maybe? (2002) Gloria Well, my Moogie, who wa

Re: average lifespan

2005-05-30 Thread felv
Well, my Moogie, who was born with FELV, lived 18 months, but it varies widely, and also, I did not take drastic measures to prolong her life. Had I done everything to the extreme, she may have lived to be 2 years old. I'm not really sure what the "average" life span of FELV+ cats is, but on

Re: AC willing to monitor list - James

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
Sounds good to me. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design)

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread stany petrov
Gloria, I don't know how your schedule is. Can you try to take someone and search together around the building of the foster house- basemet, etc. One week is not a long time but since he was not back, it means that he is getting food and water from somewhere. Some people leave food in front of th

Re: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Barbara Lowe
thank you.I will let her know. actually I got the age wrong. good ole Hamish was 14 1/2 yrs old.   - Original Message - From: Terri Brown To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Can

Re: New Member

2005-05-30 Thread felv
Michelle, FELV is NOT highly contagious in normal situations where it is a FELV+ cat sharing a home with other ADULT HEALTHY cats. It's almost unheard of for healthy adult cats to catch FELV! The problem you face is that as far as immune systems go, your FIV cat IS unhealthy (even though he

Re: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Terri Brown
My sincerest condolences to your sister.   Goodnight, sweet Hamish...   =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=   Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Terri Brown
Positive thoughts coming your way in hopes you find him okay.   =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=   Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.co

Re: outcome of anemia - for amy

2005-05-30 Thread Amy Wilkins
Belinda, I agree with you about the feeding. There are times it is necessary and that I would do it, by all means. I don't want to make it like if a cat doesn't eat for a day, I euthanize it. I'm just saying that when a cat is sick for a couple days and doesn't eat, it will normally resume eati

RE: New Member

2005-05-30 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Hi Michelle Just wanted to say a particular welcome to a fellow Brit (I live in US now) -- though I'm very sorry for the reason you've had to find us. You will find you're right---the group is indeed a lifeline. I have learned so, so much more about FeLV (and other cat issue

Interferon

2005-05-30 Thread Lomaxturtle
Yes I believe the Feline omega interferon is quite good so am interested to try it. But speaking of Lymphoma - has anyone heard or tried the transfer factor for animals. I found the product when I did a search on FeLV - I think the website is www.petsbadbreath.com - then search for transfer

Re: AC willing to monitor list - James

2005-05-30 Thread James G. Wilson
Nina, I have no problem with it. I do not censor this list except in cases where someone is being a disrupter. I would suggest, however, that her posts to our list involve FeLV support. Ours is already a very busy list with a focus on FeLV, so I'd hope that the content reflects that scope. Does

Re: AC willing to monitor list - James

2005-05-30 Thread TenHouseCats
absolutely! -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: AC willing to monitor list - James

2005-05-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Oh I think it would be great! Gloria At 04:50 PM 5/30/2005, you wrote: Maybe this is a good time to ask this question, (what with Gloria's Sam disappearing)... James are you reading this? The animal show radio archive I posted about a little bit ago is run by an AC. I visited her website

AC willing to monitor list - James

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
Maybe this is a good time to ask this question, (what with Gloria's Sam disappearing)... James are you reading this? The animal show radio archive I posted about a little bit ago is run by an AC. I visited her website and she said she enjoys checking in with different lists from time to time

Re: outcome of anemia - for amy

2005-05-30 Thread TenHouseCats
i think this is one of those situations where you really need to be in contact with the cat--force-feeding and hydrating can make all the difference, yet there usually comes a time when it isn't helping, and it's preventing them from completing their journey--very hard call, but i have definitely s

Michelle L

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
Michelle L, The steam inhaler and eucalyptus is a very good idea to help with congestion.  Someone on our list used "Little Noses", (brand name).  It's a human infant's nasal decongestant.  If it's available where you are, you might want to ask your vet about using it.  The active ingredient is

Re: outcome of anemia - for amy

2005-05-30 Thread Lernermichelle
Ginger was not eating for two weeks, due to mouth problems and then having a cold, though I did not know why at the time. She is eating like a pig now, thank god, but she probably would not be here now if I had not force-fed her during those two weeks. Michelle   In a message dated 5/30/05 1

Re: anemic cat and sneezing

2005-05-30 Thread Lernermichelle
I would try the steroids-- I would do dexamethasone and depomedrol, or dexamethasone and prednisone, along with Immuno-regulin (see article on this group's website) and an antibiotic (preferably doxicycline in case this is hemobartonella). You might want to also rule out lymphoma.   Sorry if

anemic cat and sneezing

2005-05-30 Thread Robin Sarafinchan
Thanks to everyone for your advice and thoughts.  I've been off and on the list before and it's always been helpful.  This is my first experience with a cat with feline leukemia.   His name is Norman and he's 5 years old.  We got him when he was just a cute orange kitten.  Since then, he's c

Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Barbara Lowe
  Hamish was a 12 year old part Maine Coone cat with a big heart and a big appetite. Even though he loved to roam in her backyard he never killed any birds. thank you. Barbara

Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 4, Issue 291

2005-05-30 Thread Lomaxturtle
Thanks Nina - The main concern is about having FeLV near FIV cast as they are already immune compromised but as you say they have lived together for 2 years so I would have thought that after 2 years of exposure it couldn't really get any worse. My sick FIV cat Bramble is snoring so loudly at

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
What I've often heard agrees with what Stan and others are saying. When a cat gets out and can't be found, he or she is often hiding not far away. This was the case recently with a cat on the Chronic Renal Failure list; he got out through a window without a screen and was gone for two weeks. Fo

Re: New Member

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
Hi Michelle, You sound like such a goodhearted person.  I'm sorry you lost your "baby girl", and I'm sorry Bramble is so sick.  It's so brave of you to rescue these special needs kitties so soon after your loss.  Unfortunately folks on this side of the ocean don't have nearly enough knowledge a

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Hey, that's a great idea! I was putting our FuRR cards out, but so time consuming to write on a lot of them. GLoria At 02:08 PM 5/30/2005, you wrote: Gloria, Just wanted to add one more tip to Stan's list. When my Ursula went missing my mother had the idea to put her picture on a business s

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
Gloria, Just wanted to add one more tip to Stan's list. When my Ursula went missing my mother had the idea to put her picture on a business size card with all the pertinent info about her circumstances, (never been out of the house, phone numbers etc.). We handed these out in the neighborhoo

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks, Stan - he's been missing a week. He's been in the foster home since early March. We've been over there are a few hours every day. Gloria Gloria, I think he is going to be back at the foster home because he has been an inside cat all his life and he will be afraid to hike around.

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I agree. We get so many people calling us, who want to give up their pets because of being older and going to live with children or nursing homes. Or the children call. Also parents giving up pets because of a child having allergies. What happened to the other members of the family? Also,

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread stany petrov
Gloria, I think he is going to be back at the foster home because he has been an inside cat all his life and he will be afraid to hike around. Cats are territorial and he is not willing to enter other cat's territory. He can be in radius of half a mile around the foster home. That is suggestion N1

New Member

2005-05-30 Thread Lomaxturtle
Hi - my name is Michelle and I just recently joined this FeLV group and I'm sure it is going to be mine and my cats lifeline.   I am in a bit of dilema already. My baby girl had to put to sleep at Easter after a long battle with many different ailments she was found to have FIV and was in the

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
You know, I will never understand what people are thinking when they opt to separate loved ones and their pets. If they care about this old lady, and she's gone to live with a daughter, (that's what you said right?), then why couldn't they make room for her kitty? People are really frustratin

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Are you saying you think he'll be back at the foster home? Gloria Gloria, When talking with people just say that he is 17. The breed is expensive and some people might want to make money selling the cat BUT if he is 17 years old they will know that the price will not be high. So, if someon

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks, Stan - that's a useful and great list. The former home is 5.7 miles north of the foster home. The former owner was an astrologer. Gloria Gloria, I read about lost pets once Jersey didn't show up almost 3 days. 1. Cats are getting accustomed to their homes. I have read about cat

Re: outcome of anemia - for amy

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
When anyone or anything is sick they don't feel well, I know when I have the flu or food poisoning or anything that makes me nausea, I don't feel well and I certainly don't want to eat. I certainly hope my family tryies to get me to eat and doesn't just decide to let me die, just my opinion.

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread stany petrov
Gloria, When talking with people just say that he is 17. The breed is expensive and some people might want to make money selling the cat BUT if he is 17 years old they will know that the price will not be high. So, if someone is taking care of him he might prefer to get the reward rather than tryi

Re: anemic cat

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
The Doxycycline for Hemobartinella that Belinda mentioned earlier is also worth a try. My kitty, Grace is one of the ones that it saved, even though the test for it, (it's a blood parasite), was negative. It's a broad-spectrum antibiotic so it hits a lot of different types of parasites. You

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread stany petrov
Gloria, I read about lost pets once Jersey didn't show up almost 3 days. 1. Cats are getting accustomed to their homes. I have read about cats that crossed 100- 150 km to get back to their first house. So, how far the house of the old lady is from the foster home? Cats have perfect intuition and i

Re: anemic cat

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
I personally know of a cat with cancer that was not producing red blood cells, granted he was not positive but his bone marrow wasn't producing and he was on epogen for two years with cancer and CRF before the cancer not the anemia finally took him. It is worth a try in my opinion. Many vet

Re: anemic cat

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
Here is the liver shake recipe: <>1 cup raw liver (chicken is easier to digest than beef) 1 cup fresh carrot juice, tomato juice, or V-8 1/4 cup filtered water 1 raw egg yolk 1 tsp kelp or spirulina Belinda Sauro wrote: You can also try feeding him the liver shake which is high in iron,

Re: Jersey_question

2005-05-30 Thread felv
Potassium supplement: http://www.1800petmeds.com/pgroup.asp?LV=235&PG=Tumil-K Jenn ~~~  He really needs more than the little potassium in baby food.  Call your vet and ask her to look at his potassium number and ask h

Re: anemic cat

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
You can also try feeding him the liver shake which is high in iron, there is a recipe for it in the archives. I don't have it off hand, anyone else have it?? -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens

Re: anemic cat

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Robin, Has your kitty been tested for hemobartonella? It is very hard to diagnose, many times a positive cat will test negative. The preferred treatment is doxocyline and even cats that test negative but are suspected to have it have taken it and it has saved their lives. It won't hu

Re: outcome of anemia - for amy

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
Robin, I'm sorry your baby is in trouble. I hate this disease. After two years with no problems, it's amazing how fast those problems can get serious. I'm not clear about what's going on with the anemia, did your vet say they thought it was non-regenerative? What is your baby's name? How

Re: anemic cat (links to potassium and feeding supps too)

2005-05-30 Thread felv
I agree. Some cases of anemia are easily fixed, and transfusions can make a world of difference, but if your cat has stopped producing red blood cells completely, I think you are at best buying time, and at worst, prolonging a slow death. Have you vet do the smear, if he is producing new cel

Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
When I was looking around for heating pads for cats, there was a warning to not use a regular heating pad for a cat that is disabled and not likely to move off the pad when/if it gets to warm. I had one heating pad that I used for kittens that never got to warm, but the kittens were able to ea

Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
When Buddie had her sepsis infection, I just used a regular heating pad on low wrapped around several times in a big towel. It stayed warm but not too warm. I did check it several times to make sure it didn't get too warm. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ...

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks to all. Foster mom is only 21, worked at a Vet clinic, nice girl. She was packing to move, I was to pick them up soon. She didn't think he'd go outside (!), as he was upstairs, and propped the door open to move boxes out. Then she didn't tell me for a few days, embarrassed. Yes, I w

Re: outcome of anemia - for amy

2005-05-30 Thread Amy Wilkins
I helped all of mine cross over. I wanted them to die with dignity. I didn't want to force them to eat and drink, etc. I know a lot of people do that but I just feel that if they aren't enjoying life, I need to let them go. There was a drastic change when I felt it was time. They were acting t

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Nina
Gloria, I'm sending calming thoughts to Sam to find his way back to his foster mom. Poor baby, he's been through so much with his human getting sick and then losing his home. His foster mom must be so upset about him getting out too. Did he rush the door, or did she think he'd be okay in th

Re: meet_Jersey

2005-05-30 Thread Del Daniels
He is beautiful!  Does he let his tongue stay out a bit like that a lot?  My Santiago does that when he is being petted.  Pets to Jersey.   Del - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: mee

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread TenHouseCats
GLOW for sam to find his way home, gloria! On 5/29/05, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service, special > needs list? Sam is lost. He belonged to an older lady whose family > we know. She became sick and I found a foster home. > >

Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

2005-05-30 Thread TenHouseCats
for the non-electric solution: a bag of beans or rice, heated in the microwave for 3-4 minutes (with a small container for water to add humidity) then wrapped in a towel will hold heat for hours (you have to test what you use to see how long it stays warm)--better than a towel, find an old cat

Re: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

2005-05-30 Thread Del Daniels
Gloria, good thoughts and prayers that Sam will return.  How scary and him being old.  They become disoriented when they are not familiar with the outdoors.  Del - Original Message - From: Gloria B. Lane To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10

Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

2005-05-30 Thread Del Daniels
Effie loved her kitty heating pad and I ordered it from one of the pet supply places.  It is lightly warm and she was comfortable for hours.  Do you suppose she has one at the Bridge? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent:

outcome of anemia - for amy

2005-05-30 Thread Robin Sarafinchan
Amy,   Thanks for that reply - I'm not feeling particularly optimistic.  I don't intend to keep doing transfusions, I just wanted to give it a shot.  I had hoped it would go more good but I'm happy he's eating.   Did the three you lost to anemia die on their own or did you help them to cross

Re: anemic cat

2005-05-30 Thread Amy Wilkins
Oh, one more thing. I got ahead of myself. Make sure that the anemia is due to the bone marrow not producing any red blood cells. Did your vet do a smear on your cat's original blood? They can look and see if there are any baby red blood cells in there. The bone marrow should be pumping out n

Re: anemic cat

2005-05-30 Thread Amy Wilkins
Robin, Unfortunately, based on my experience, this is not good news. I've lost 3 leuk positive kitties to anemia. When the hematocrit (red blood cell count) gets that low, there isn't a lot you can do medically. I tried prednisone with all of mine. Most it didn't help but with my one cat, her

anemic cat

2005-05-30 Thread Robin Sarafinchan
Our cat, although he tested postive almost two years ago, has been very healthy until a few weeks ago when he became lethargic and ate less and less.   Blood tests showed his red cell count at 13% so he went in for a blood transfusion on Friday.  He seems a bit better, is eating again, but c

Re: Jersey_question

2005-05-30 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
I believe my brother, who also lives in Toledo, may have also taken his felv kitty Jezebel to the Michigan State University vet clinic as well as his regular vet. Michigan State and Ohio State are about equi- distant from Toledo, about 120 miles. Bonnie inWI www.elephants.com - Original M

Re: meet_Jersey

2005-05-30 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Try asking your vet for some. My vet gives me syringes free. After awhile, when the rubber O-rings on the plunger-thing get hard and it's difficult to push, I just ask for a few more. Bonnie in WI www.elephants.com Stan, syringe feeding is not that difficult, and no, it does not require an

Re: meet_Jersey

2005-05-30 Thread Sheila208
Beautiful. I hope he recovers and lives a long healthy life. Thank you for giving him so much Love and care. He is really worth the effort, as is all our fur babies.    Sheila

Re: Jersey_question

2005-05-30 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Stan, He really needs more than the little potassium in baby food. Call your vet and ask her to look at his potassium number and ask her what amount he needs to bring that number to normal. You will probably have to go out and buy a potassium supplement in a pharmacy or vitamin stor