Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge (MaryChristine)

2007-06-30 Thread Susan Dubose
Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Malone To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:26 PM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge (MaryChristine) am really new to this whole situation. Adopted an abandoned tuxie and at 9 months he

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-30 Thread Gina WN
Thank you for the information Belinda. I am going to read all of it. Gina MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the most important info, i believe, in the last few years, is the research showing a genetic predisposition for the mutation from the usually benign corona virus to the horrible F

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge (MaryChristine)

2007-06-29 Thread Malone
am really new to this whole situation. Adopted an abandoned tuxie and at 9 months he just got sick. 2 days later he was in massive shock and unable to survive much more. My vet put him down while I held him. He told me he tested positive for Felv. I then brought in my others a 3 year old and a 4 ye

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread MaryChristine
THANKS, SALLY! damn, one of the things i hate about the merck is that it changes every time you read it! years ago, in the printed version, it talked about research that showed that at least one cat had continued to test positive on the IFA for eight months before going negative, but then they t

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread Sally Davis
Hi I checked the Merck Vet manual online and it has this information http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/57000.htm&word=feline%2cleukemia Sally On 6/29/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn fel

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread MaryChristine
*From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:44 AM *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge I am not sure if it is killed or not, Hideyo. I'm trying to find out, but haven't found anything so far. I know

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge I am not sure if it is killed or not, Hideyo. I'm trying to find out, but haven't found anything so far. I know my vet prefers them to Ft Dodge Most rescuers use Ft Dodge, they are cheaper... On 6/29/07, H

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread Kelley Saveika
Original Message - > *From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:17 AM > *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge > > > Can you get it for me just in case my vet does not knowhe keeps u

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
kemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge If it is that new he is not using it. He uses Meiral. Also the free spay/neuter clinic, where I get my rescue kitties inoculated, uses Meiral. I used to use Dr Samon for injections

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread Kelley Saveika
IL PROTECTED]> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:17 AM *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge Can you get it for me just in case my vet does not knowhe keeps up on things..occasionally I can surprise him, like when I found the flourescine dye prot

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread MaryChristine
g *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:15 AM *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge the intranasal one, hideyo? On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > by the way, did you know there is a now new type of felk vaccine, much > safer than tradition

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge yeah, but all of those are not clear, "exposure, infection, clearing the virus..." but they could be the ones that were initially referenced On 6/29/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
No, I think it's a regular injection type. - Original Message - From: MaryChristine<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie c

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
ECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge Can you get it for me just in case my vet does not knowhe keeps up on things..occasionally I can surprise him,

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread MaryChristine
yeah, but all of those are not clear, "exposure, infection, clearing the virus..." but they could be the ones that were initially referenced On 6/29/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I counted up the percentages in Hideyo's list and they added up to 70%. K On 6/29/07, MaryCh

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread Kelley Saveika
lready aware of this. - Original Message - *From:* MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:08 AM *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most o

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread MaryChristine
*From:* MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:08 AM *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn feline foundation has new position papers out on

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
yep, exactly! - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge I counted up the

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn feline foundation has new position papers out on FIV/FeLV/FIP, and that's

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread Kelley Saveika
I counted up the percentages in Hideyo's list and they added up to 70%. K On 6/29/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn feline foundation has new position papers out on FIV/FeLV/FIP, and that's what on theirs. http:/

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread MaryChristine
right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn feline foundation has new position papers out on FIV/FeLV/FIP, and that's what on theirs. http://www.winnfelinehealth.org HOWEVER, i know that i saw that 70% figure in a number of places, and it annoys me that i can't find it n

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
2007 8:14 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge Hey MC, I, too, need to track down that 70% figure. And my understanding is that that is 70% of healthy, *unvaccinated* cats can throw off the virus. So with vaccinated cats it would be even better. Is that your under

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread Kelley Saveika
Hey MC, I, too, need to track down that 70% figure. And my understanding is that that is 70% of healthy, *unvaccinated* cats can throw off the virus. So with vaccinated cats it would be even better. Is that your understanding as well? Alley Cat Allies has some good documentation on how spayin

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread Susan Dubose
ursday, June 28, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge Sorry but no vet knows everything ... I personally know of this type of vet worship costing animals their life. Just stating a fact ... take it or leave it. PS. I didn't call any vet a criminal, I

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-29 Thread Susan Dubose
ened claws." Trajan Tennent ----- Original Message ----- From: Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge Sorry but no vet knows everythi

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-28 Thread Gloria Lane
That's what I've heard re FIP - the genetic predisposition. And re the stats on FELV, even if you find it, can you find what it's based on? It's easy to throw stats around without much basis. Course I guess I shouldn't complain too loudly, I'd really rather they didn't do a research study

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-28 Thread Belinda
Sorry but no vet knows everything ... I personally know of this type of vet worship costing animals their life. Just stating a fact ... take it or leave it. PS. I didn't call any vet a criminal, I said and I quote: *To say a cat is suspected to have FIP is one thing, to say is is confirme

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-28 Thread Susan Dubose
Ever guarding with sharpened claws." Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge Here are some

Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-28 Thread MaryChristine
the most important info, i believe, in the last few years, is the research showing a genetic predisposition for the mutation from the usually benign corona virus to the horrible FIP. when i was still involved with VIN (the parent of www.veterinarypartner.com that belinda references), this relation

FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

2007-06-28 Thread Belinda
* Here are some sites with info about FIP. Just because the same misinformation keeps getting repeated isn't going to make it true.* *To many cats pay with their lives when incorrect information is tossed about. To say a cat is suspected to have FIP is one thing, to say is is confirmed