Re: IFA kittens, retest at 6 mo & 1 yr? Or is IFA positive final?

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
omes with its own set of rules. Basically, scientists do not have all the answers yet to FeLV. However, when we get results, these are published which allows doctors more information to treat their patients. But somewhere in a small lab, researchers continue to seek answers. Don't k

Re: Fw: [HANDICATS2] SEEKING: FELV+ Maine Coon (or copycat) in NE area, or CO.

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
On 8/29/06, Patricia Lamoretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BuddyBoy, who is double positive (FeLV and FIV), was relocated to Best Friends in Kanab, Utah, from NY in February.  Some may say Best Friends is a great place but it's not a "real" home and if a space opens up in their leuk house, they ca

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
i am personally not terribly thrilled with antech, either, as they keep INSISTING that they have a reliable FIP test, which no one else accepts   baytril has definite side effects in young cats--don't have the technical language at paw, but it basically can stunt their growth. it's stated clear

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
i don't think it's rude at all.   am thinking, tho, that some shelters DO let special-needs cats go for no fee, but that's AFTER they pass their adoption/application process. in those cases, it's to make room for more easily adoptable cats, while doing their best to make sure the cat gets a good ho

my list of places to post FIV/FeLV cats

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
PLEASE ADD ANY OTHERS!  www.adopt.bemikitties.com http://www.marleyfund.com/add_fiv.aspxhttp://purebredcatbreedrescue.org/photopost/index.php  (for purebreds and lookalikes)  these two i just found--don't have any experience with them http://www.specialneedspets.com/ http://www.petswithdisabilities

Re: Head shake symptom - Spencer - 2 different abx at same time

2006-08-29 Thread TenHouseCats
the false-positive rate for the snap test for FIV is much higher than 20%--closer to 40 at a conservative rate. no sanctuary or group that works with FIVs will consider a cat positive without a western blot test.   -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineA

Re: Angel has gone to the bridge

2006-08-30 Thread TenHouseCats
hoo!?Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
or just get reprint permission from jim willis to use, "free to a good home". even if it is about dogs On 8/31/06, Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like that...it gives it a little more punch! Thanks Kat!  :)   M Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Belinda,I think the re-wording

Re: OT: Need feedback please

2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
this is the one i was actually thinking of: http://cats.about.com/cs/kittencare/a/freekittuns.htm   On 8/31/06, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:    Hi MC,   I  think the one your talking about is the one Jim's friend Michelle Crean wrote, it is this one: http://www.parrett.net/animalaid/free.h

Re: Question about different FeLV tests

2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
it really depends, tho--bats DO get into houses, and let me tell you--if you find one, and it tests positive for rabies, even if you are SURE it wasn't anywhere near your cats, they will want to confiscate them.. i had a very uncomfortable 10-day wait, as i sat around trying to figure out how i

Re: Question about different FeLV tests

2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
there's no question that there's a problem with overvaccination, and the issue of using annual vaccinations as a way to get cats into the vet at least once a year   i'd still check with your dept of ag to see if a doctor's "excuse" would be accepted if your state requires annual RABIES shots...

Re: Question about different FeLV tests

2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
; letter as exemption.>-- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: To Gina

2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
there's a sanctuary FIV+ who's been there for 15 years tested positive when he came in as an adult On 8/31/06, Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sherry, Buddy crossed the Brige in 2002, not 2003.  It will be 4 years in November.  I can't believe how fast the time has passed; it just seems

Re: To Gina

2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
lthy most of his life before the cancer. TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: there's a sanctuary FIV+ who's been there for 15 years tested positive when he came in as an adult On 8/31/06, Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Sherry, Buddy crossed the Brige in 2002

Re: Question about different FeLV tests

2006-08-31 Thread TenHouseCats
hey, two years ago the vet school at MSU said that they couldn't send out a sample for a western blot because no one did the western blot anymore.     On 8/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did she say she would find out (from the doctor) and get back to you about the IFA?

Re: Felv pos to neg

2006-09-04 Thread TenHouseCats
on a newly dignosed FELV before they were symptomatic and the results on succeeding tests,Already using Vit C and lysine Kelly-- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: The vet I had taken Angel to...

2006-09-07 Thread TenHouseCats
i think it's really wonderful when vets acknowledge our loss..   my vet is so wonderful that i keep wishing that there was something that i could do to show him how much i appreciate him. last holiday season, i actually found a hallmark card for "our favorite vet," and i got him a tree orna

Re: The vet I had taken Angel to...

2006-09-07 Thread TenHouseCats
how much i love this guy  On 9/7/06, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: that's awesome of your vet.:) TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i think it's really wonderful when vets acknowledge our loss..   my vet is so wonderful that i keep wishing t

Re: The vet I had taken Angel to...

2006-09-07 Thread TenHouseCats
the high point at the sanctuary was about 600 On 9/7/06, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You didn't actually have 400 did you :) TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sherry, you especially will get a kick out of this: when i went to live/work the sanct

Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.

2006-09-09 Thread TenHouseCats
we never have any guarantees with any of the critters that share our lives--it used to make me nuts when people would bring FeLVs to the sanctuary, asymptomatic, and say they couldn't keep them, "because they were going to die." well, we all are, folks i know of as many $1500 showcats (don't ge

Re: OTS..need suggestions

2006-09-10 Thread TenHouseCats
what happens a LOT in trailer parks is that people move out and leave their cats behind, and/or people think that a trailer park is a great place to dump their own cats--so a lot of times, the cats roaming parks are NOT really owned. and most park managements just consider loose cats a nuisance and

Cortland NY 274-cat seizure--some FeLVs.....

2006-09-11 Thread TenHouseCats
CORTLAND COUNTY SPCA     i hope to know by tomorrow how many FeLVs there are involved.. the kitty on the page is one.   MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: timing on FeLV+ test

2006-09-11 Thread TenHouseCats
retest using the IFA at a minimum of 90 days--i go for 120 days since most times it takes between three and four months to clear the virus--so unless you are absolutely sure that he couldn't have been in contact with an infected cat that entire amount, better to wait.   statistically, 70% of those

timing on FeLV+ test

2006-09-11 Thread TenHouseCats
i'd definitely go for the IFA instead of the elissa--the false positive rate is just too high on the latter. i don't know how much actual research there is on how long it can take to clear on the IFA--i'd seen a cite of up to 8 months from exposure, tho that one no longer appears where i saw it. b

Re: timing on FeLV+ test

2006-09-11 Thread TenHouseCats
oh, well that clears it up On 9/11/06, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wrote to this person off list and asked them to clarify.  Here's his response:> Let me rephrase that: IFAs depend upon advanced stages of infection to detect the presence of antigen and thus won't usually pick up early i

Re: timing on FeLV+ test

2006-09-11 Thread TenHouseCats
le positive ELISA test, go with the IFA next time.  The less the cat needs to be tested, the better. TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'd definitely go for the IFA instead of the elissa--the false positive rate is just too high on the latter. i don't know how much actual re

Re: Way OT: Starting a 501(c)3 for cat rescue

2006-09-11 Thread TenHouseCats
remind me tomorrow or so--there is a pretty good yahoogroup just for helping folks through the process! On 9/11/06, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was sort of in the process and never completed it.. setting up non profit organization is very easy and getting tax exemption status

Re: Way OT: Starting a 501(c)3 for cat rescue

2006-09-11 Thread TenHouseCats
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/501C3Help/ that should be it   On 9/11/06, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That would be awesome, thanks you On 9/11/06, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: remind me tomorrow or so--there is a pretty good yahoogroup just for h

Re: Question re rabies vaccine

2006-09-12 Thread TenHouseCats
it depends on your state laws--some won't accept the 3-year-shot as "valid" if anything happens (ie, cat bites someone, or a bat is found in your house). if your state accepts the 3-year, go with that   the other thing, ask your vet if they think she really needs it--in many states, a vet's e

Re: Spencer's treatment (Interferon and Acemannan) - and Elspar

2006-09-12 Thread TenHouseCats
if vets are like human doctors, they get very little pharmaceutical education, and learn much of what they do know from the manufacturer's detail personnel--for human meds, pharmacists are generally much more knowledgeable about what drugs actually do. i don't know, tho, how much they'd know about

Re: Way OT: Starting a 501(c)3 for cat rescue

2006-09-12 Thread TenHouseCats
on paperwork and filing obligations?   So may sure you know what you think you''re going get and what obligations you take on in the process. TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/501C3Help/ that should be it....   On 9/11/06, Kelley Savei

Re: $$$ or Kitty Talk

2006-09-19 Thread TenHouseCats
up at the first meeting with caity and jenny, my two biological persians, under my arm... MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: $$$ or Kitty Talk

2006-09-19 Thread TenHouseCats
erning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: morbid question about finding autopsy studies

2006-09-20 Thread TenHouseCats
ference.... MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Looking for 2 Good Vets near Fort Worth, TX.

2006-09-26 Thread TenHouseCats
I can refer her according to the illness see our available orphans at: http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html Karen 817-453-2969 -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Persian Rescue in Florida Closing - Many FeLV+

2006-10-06 Thread TenHouseCats
t; Prayers that they find help soon, > Nina -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread TenHouseCats
me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know it's going to be painful when it does.. Hideyo -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Spencer and the difficulty of final decisions

2006-10-10 Thread TenHouseCats
ing any of the signals that normally tell me this is what he wants... > So, I continue to wait and watch and support and try to be brave through > my tears. > Nina > > > Belinda wrote: > >> Steriods will help any kind of inflammation not just inflammation from >> cancer. They also help many other conditions. >> > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: GOOD NEWS!!!!!

2006-10-17 Thread TenHouseCats
e: LESLIE JUST CALLED, SATCHMO IS BACK! -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: HAPPYHAPPYJOYJOY!!!!

2006-10-17 Thread TenHouseCats
ly, so that's good, not traumatized. Beth -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: More about good news!!!

2006-10-18 Thread TenHouseCats
x27;ll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Mishka, sleep, FIP

2006-10-24 Thread TenHouseCats
Or you mean FIP isn't, but corona is? Thank-you! Marta Please visit my shop Cat Agora gifts for cat caregivers http://www.cafepress.com/marta -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: FIP

2006-10-24 Thread TenHouseCats
orbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: FYI: Weird guy visiting online cat groups

2006-10-24 Thread TenHouseCats
hoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: FIP - thanks MC

2006-10-24 Thread TenHouseCats
in geriatric cats, or cats under a year. Is that your experience? Nina TenHouseCats wrote: > marta, FIP is currently considered to be a mutated corona virus--so > the corona virus is contagious (they estimate something like 80-90% of > cats in a multi-cat environment will have been exposed

Re: FYI: Weird guy visiting online cat groups

2006-10-24 Thread TenHouseCats
hing we write to each other is available to anyone with internet access. Also remember, if you give out your phone number you have to be prepared to get teary eyed calls about the woes of rescue, (isn't that right MC?) Nina TenHouseCats wrote: > hee hee--and be REALLY careful if you

Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread TenHouseCats
ifference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Losing Dukee...... :(

2006-10-27 Thread TenHouseCats
annot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: How should I handle this?

2006-10-31 Thread TenHouseCats
0/27/2006 -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: SOS - you are not going to believe this - now my little Olive has FIP (?)

2006-11-05 Thread TenHouseCats
for all your support and I am sorry for asking for more prayers before I had a chance to thank you for all your kind words you have sent to me and dharma.. Hideyo -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Oliver has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP..

2006-11-05 Thread TenHouseCats
rainbow bridge.. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Please add to the CLS - and HELP - long, sorry

2006-11-06 Thread TenHouseCats
hemobart isn't only common in positives--it seems that there's parts of the country where it's showing up all the time, because i'm in one of them. one of the vets here mentioned two years ago that almost every cat she'd been sending bloodwork out on was coming back positive--so is it more comm

Re: Please add to the CLS - and HELP - long, sorry

2006-11-06 Thread TenHouseCats
oh, my, phaewyrn, can i second that! i've learned some of the hardest lessons in my life via "not knowing better" with the cats.   why we sometimes have to learn in such a difficult way i do not know, but in passing on what we've learned from them, we honor them every time we help someone else NOT 

Re: ot: Antonio

2006-11-06 Thread TenHouseCats
cuz you're larger than life, silly! On 11/6/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garage safari, LOL! They do just love it when they get to explore a normally off limits area.   Gees, why is my sig font so big? I gotta go fix that! Phaewryn   Please adopt a cat from Little Chee

Re: Opossums a vector for FeVL?

2006-11-06 Thread TenHouseCats
there's a vet in town who swears that skunks genetically carry rabies, so being good in some areas does NOT guarantee expertise in all.. On 11/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People tease me about my "pet possums"...they like to climb one of the big climbing roses, hang out

Re: Getting thru it all

2006-11-06 Thread TenHouseCats
and what if it turns out that the universe is delusional after all, or just has a really inflated idea of how much we can handle??   i dream of "dull and boring," sometimes--but i'd probably get tired of that, too.  -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryCh

Re: [siameserescue] Looking for FeLV+ Companion Kitty

2006-11-07 Thread TenHouseCats
for those who don't know, belinda has added a section specifically for folks who are looking for FeLVs to add to their families--at www.adopt.bemikitties.com   (don't forget to add your vet recommendations there, too!)  On 11/7/06, Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wow, I wish that this kind o

Re: What is FIP?

2006-11-08 Thread TenHouseCats
i've also seen that 3 weeks is a long enough time for not bringing in a cat, and that if the cat came from a shelter or any other multi-cat environment, there's no point in isolating since it's probably only been exposed before it came to you.   i haven't actually seen info re: whether the FC

Re: What is FIP?

2006-11-08 Thread TenHouseCats
5 PM, Leslie Lawther wrote: Dr. Addie used to recommend 6 months before bringing in another cat or kitten.  But, I believe there are many different strains of FCoV... so one strain is not necessarily like another.  Leslie =^..^=  On 11/8/06, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: i

Re: What is FIP?

2006-11-08 Thread TenHouseCats
e corona virus that initiate it.   Gloria     On Nov 8, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Leslie Lawther wrote: Dr. Addie used to recommend 6 months before bringing in another cat or kitten.  But, I believe there are many different strains of FCoV... so one strain is not necessarily like another.  Leslie =^..^= 

Re: What is FIP?

2006-11-08 Thread TenHouseCats
gt; wrote: I think you're right, they haven't narrowed it down to one variety yet.  I also read where it's not any more common in pure-breds than in alley cats.   Gloria     On Nov 8, 2006, at 2:16 PM, TenHouseCats wrote: i don't think that they've identified WHICH

Re: What is FIP?

2006-11-08 Thread TenHouseCats
ecause FeLV+ cats do seem more susceptible.  Kittens are also more susceptible.  All I can report is what I've read of current theories and research.  We still KNOW so little. TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: that's what i thought. wouldn't it be WONDERFUL is we could

Re: What is FIP?

2006-11-09 Thread TenHouseCats
les in her capillaries?  I check ears a lot now.   Beth    I think you're right, they haven't narrowed it down to one variety yet.  I also read where it's not any more common in pure-breds than in alley cats.   Gloria On Nov 8, 2006, at 2:16 PM, TenHouseCats wrote: i d

Re: What is FIP?

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
happens a lot dear, with rescues, too. for reasons beyond my comprehension, some people just don't want to know look at how much info is out there about FIV and FeLV--most of it nowhere near as new as that re: FIP--why keep on on things when there's a simple, readily available treatment already

Re: Question about a ruptured disc

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
hold on, beth, til some of the regulars are awake! there are lists that deal with exactly this sort of problem, but they'll have the info more easily accessible that i do.   (a human who was, happily, NOT euthanized when she had her two ruptured disks..)   MC  On 11/10/06, Beth R. Harrison

Re: dirty bum bum - OT (as if it needs to be pointed out)

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
sometimes, with the persians, i've had to resort of half-baths--you know, stuff their rear ends unto soapy water and hope they stay cooperative long enough to get the poopies out. (diarrhea in persians is NOT a good thing.)   MC   -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The Differen

Re: Question about a ruptured disc

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
only one who can look at Louie and judge his> quality of life/living conditions/etc.  That is what you> need to base your decisions on - how far away from the> vet school are you? >> Kat (Mew Jersey)-- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: OT Help, I am so embarrassed

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
i had to add a hook-and-eye latch to my bifold closet doors -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: OT Help, I am so embarrassed

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
hey, susan, should we tell everyone that "smelling like cat urine" is one of the criterion for defining possible hoarders? :fleaing  -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: OT Help, I am so embarrassed

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
ah, yes, the infamous squirts... the one i have doing that now, tho, has the incredible kindness to do so in the bathtub, so it's easy to clean up     On 11/10/06, Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And I have Leader, who is really my little miracle boy -- he was born feleuk positive and i

Re: Question about a ruptured disc

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
here's some links from an earlier emeow of phaewyrn's:   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Handicats2/  (another yahoogroup I moderate, lots of disabled cat owners there) http://www.messybeast.com/disabled.htm  http://handicappedpets.com/   she's also got lots of info on her special-needs page: http:/

Re: Homoepathic SCAM??

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
nd OCTOBER: $625.00> > >PayPal fee if paid by credit card $31> > >TOTAL BY PAYPAL $656> > >> > >If to prefer to mail a check to avoid the PAyPal fee, that is fine, > >just> > >> > >let me know and I'll cancel the PayPal invoice.> > >> > >> > >Thank You.> > >> > >--I am sure there are good , professional Homeopaths out there getting a bad reputation from what I see as scam artists. Please share yourwise opinions here. also the price she is attempting to charge another friend.I know we deal with bad VETS all the time, but there are others out there willing to take advantage also.-- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: Homoepathic SCAM??

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
have you paid her anything yet? if so, you might want to look into internet fraud charges   uh, oh, i think she's talking about me--i may not be in that many health-food stores these days, but still act (and think) like i'm a refugee from a 60s peace march   MC four planets in libra, risin

Re: DNA testing for FIV, can differentiate from vaccinated or true positive! (and it's free)

2006-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
wow, no, i DIDN'T know about this--i know they've been trying to come up with a test that is reliable and reproducible. i'll try to get more info and pass it on   thanks!  On 11/9/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks to Marilyn Krieger from Bengal Cat Rescue

Re: Homoepathic SCAM?? (OT - migraines)

2006-11-11 Thread TenHouseCats
gee, barb, JUST what we need. more phenomenal sugar recipes! (i'd like the caramel one)   listening to you two, i guess some of my back stuff isn't so bad, after all when i'm in bad shape, as long as i don't move--literally, because i can't, i'm basically okay sounds like just breat

Re: Scamming Homeopath/psychopath

2006-11-11 Thread TenHouseCats
OMD, i was right, it IS the woman i was thinking about!   she is NOTORIOUS for this kind of stuff i was warned about her probably 3 years ago by someone who'd been on her list--i even joined the list myself for awhile just to see. didn't stay long, as you've all noticed i do NOT have a lot

Re: DNA testing for FIV, can differentiate from vaccinated or true positive! (and it's free)

2006-11-11 Thread TenHouseCats
yeah, i'm on mail for that list--i'm one of the moderators!   sent it on as soon as i read it!  On 11/11/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTW, MC, I did NOT pass that along to the FIVCATS2 list, I figured they already knew there... if you haven't seen it there (you stay on

Re: Scamming Homeopath/psychopath

2006-11-11 Thread TenHouseCats
since she states that she's in compliance with washington state laws, i'd suggest a call to the attorney general there, as well. On 11/11/06, kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You will find the legal contract information with all relevant details>to constitute a legal contract for my services - the

Re: How "catchy" is it?

2006-11-11 Thread TenHouseCats
dede hicken wrote: > Posted yesterday, and this question didn't get > answered. If Ki does NOT seroconvert, what are the > chances of my other cats getting it if i put him in > with them? > > thanks, > Dede-- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The Di

Re: How "catchy" is it?

2006-11-11 Thread TenHouseCats
, yeah, what tonya said!  On 11/11/06, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/11/06, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I think the key here is that the cats were Not vaccinated. All bets are off if you're mixing positives with non vaccinated cats. Gary Murphy <[EMA

Re: How "catchy" is it?

2006-11-11 Thread TenHouseCats
vet, and all 40 willbe done.  I hope and pray that Ki tests neg in Dec, but I have fallen in love with this little guy, so Iguess it really doesn't matter.We were gonna vaccinate anyway because of the crosscountry move coming up, so what the heck!!Thanks again, Dede--- TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: How "catchy" is it?

2006-11-11 Thread TenHouseCats
again, if anyone can show me a documented case of a vaccinated, truly negative cat turning positive, i'll believe it i've looked, and tho i've heard a couple of anecdotal stories, in none of them was an IFA or retest ever done to assure the "negative" cat really was   i truly believe that

Re: How "catchy" is it?

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
don't know about UC Davis, but i JUST found out that the MSU vet school adopts out theirs. On 11/11/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Speaking of healthy adult cats is UC Davis in CA still adopting their research cats out to the public after they complete their stu

Re: a little ot: question

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
pop test? gee, i'm used to calling it a SNAP test myownself (after you place the drawn blood into the cavity, you have to "snap" it closed.)   for future reference, FIV sanctuaries and rescues won't even consider a cat positive without a confirmatory western blot test and the FIV vaccin

Re: How "catchy" is it?

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
i've only been in the area for 23 years, and in rescue for eight--and NEVER knew they did this never seen any reference on any of the statewide lists, so don't know if it's a new policy, if they don't work with rescues, or what. On 11/12/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: a little ot: question

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
i'm just loving the thought of the look on my vet's face next time i have to ask for a pop test... On 11/12/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Snap, pop... minor differential technicalities in my auditory senses, IMO. LMAO! Think Rice Crispies Phaewryn   Please adopt a c

Re: How "catchy" is it?

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
nope, i've never gotten around to putting together one, either! On 11/12/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: UC Davis used to do it too (they still may and just the webpage builder graduated or something)... I'm going to write EVERY vet school in the USA, and ask them about i

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
the very first thing would be to establish a network of foster homes who were educated about, and not afraid of, either virus. in the cases of either, having time and space is often the difference between their life and death--most rescues/shelters might give them a chance if they had a place to ke

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
well, one month isn't really enough for FeLV retesting i've never seen anything about needing to wait to confirm an FIV negative, tho i guess it couldn't hurt. i've gathered tho, that it will show up much quicker than will FeLV infection. there also doesn't seem to be any real info about adult

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
i go for separate rooms for FIVs and FeLVs, with FIV/FeLVs mixed with the FeLVs, unless all the FIVs were vaccinated against FeLV. even then, for public relations reasons, i'd probably keep them separate. yes, while many people think you shouldn't vaccinate FIV cats, there's no research showing the

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
well, as long as it's free, which it may NOT remain, i guess the DNA test would be enough. i'll have to sit down and read UC Davis' research, tho, and get some feedback from the vets i've sent the info to before i take the validity and reliability of their DNA results as gospel. there have been

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
oh, well, yeah, i'm talking about healthy adults--i wouldn't put kittens or elders with ANY special-needs groups.   the issue is how immune compromised FIVs truly are remember, FIV is a NAME, just as FIP is--and was given that name during the heyday of the HIV/AIDS panic, when not that much was

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
FIV is classified as a retro-virus, so i'm not saying there's no consequences, or that some FIVs don't have major problems. it just seems that those that do develop consistently are fairly treatable--the mouth problems from herpes, for example--and that if major medical problems are to occur, they

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-12 Thread TenHouseCats
well, yes, but you are NOT a normal, run-of-the-mill human! (in more ways than i can count! :::fleaing) On 11/12/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a child that spent most of her childhood in and out of hospitals, you can be sure I knew what immune compromised meant b

Re: Scooter has gone to the bridge

2006-11-13 Thread TenHouseCats
i believe that scooter, like so many of our little ones, came to YOU because he knew that you would love him, and care for him, and help make his passage as easy as possible. he needed things that only you could provide him to continue his journey.   he left this world with things that too many hu

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-13 Thread TenHouseCats
more importantly, were they tested AND retested? a negative test really means nothing, either, unless one knows FOR SURE just who that kitty was hanging out with the 120 days or so before being trapped. if not retested, the cat could have been contracted the virus the week before, and test negative

Re: WAS : Re: How "catchy" is it? (OT - about vet school adoption programs) List of Vet Schools

2006-11-13 Thread TenHouseCats
thanks, belinda! On 11/13/06, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:    Here ya go:http://www.aavmc.org/students_admissions/vet_schools.htm --Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelig

Re: Felv+/FIV+ policy for rescues

2006-11-13 Thread TenHouseCats
the same info time and time again, but we have to do it, because the cats just won't... -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: OT Help, I am so embarrassed

2006-11-13 Thread TenHouseCats
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Re: Reliability of SNAP tests

2006-11-16 Thread TenHouseCats
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