> But I really don't agree that GF is interpolation under another name.
I didn't say it was, but it does do 'interpolation' in the 'dictionary'
definition of interpolation in the process. I agree it does more than
'standard' interpolation My understanding is it converts to vectors in
the
At 16:21 08/11/00, Genuine Fractals people wrote:
> > The software encodes the image from raster
> > (pixels) to vector (mathematical equation) so that when you scale, you
> > are truling scaling - this is not interpolation.
and Austin responded:
>It is absolutely interpolation. It isn't necess
It's about time someone else thought that up.. I gave very serious thought to rigging
a LCD projector overlay (you know the ones that sit on the old style projectors) and
using that in the light path above the lense of a collumated light source enlarger to
do shadow masks. Operator would use
Hi Laurie,
With mutual respect to your response.
Genuine Fractals has no current place in web image preparation. It's only
use is for upscaling data to print large images. We went through this same
discussion on another forum (Nikon CoolPix 990) about three weeks ago and
the moderator e-maile
Is stochastic dithering what Foley and van Dam call "random dithering"? They
don't explain it (in "Computer Graphics") but I can imagine.
Frank Paris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Julie, female Galah (3 1/2 years and going strong at the moment)
Little Birdie, male Splendid Parakeet (13 years)
Snowflake, male
Has anyone on the list had hands-on experience with the new Kodak 3600 film
scanner? I would be interested in hearing how it compares to the Nikon
LS200 and/or Polaroid SS4000.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
>BTW, don't they call that 'error diffusion'?
Yes, but what do they know! :-)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Austin Franklin
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:26 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Epson printing was Re: filmscanners
> Alas, it is my understanding that, unless you deliberately select
halftoning
> per se, the printer uses stochastic dithering rather than digital
halftoning
> proper, which if I am correct makes notions of halftone cell size and
> pattern irrelevant. This is my understanding; but I could be wr
Tomasz Chady wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Sorry for disturbing you but I am going to buy RFS3600 (or SS4000) but I
> still have some questions.
> Could you please tell me :
> is it possible to use manual focus
> is it possible to upload somewhere manual and English driver
> If it is not so difficult,
'Bonusprint', a mass-market photoprocessor in the UK, got
top marks in a recent review in 'Which?' consumer magazine,
so I looked at their web site (http://www.bonusprint.com/).
It says their Agfa Dimax printing machines use a
computerised LCD mask to reduce local contrast...
"Our Dimax printers
Every few months I am persuaded to try again to calibrate my
monitor, using the various tools from an assortment of
websites.
My monitor (Taxan Ergovision 735 TCO99) has software to
adjust its RGB curves individually to get the various
dithering patterns to match. The results from the various
too
Alas, it is my understanding that, unless you deliberately select halftoning
per se, the printer uses stochastic dithering rather than digital halftoning
proper, which if I am correct makes notions of halftone cell size and
pattern irrelevant. This is my understanding; but I could be wrong.
A dealer told me the 1640 wasn't "industrial strength". I myself bought one
anyhow. Far cheaper. But I wonder if it really is a true 1600 DPI or whether
it is just "enhanced" to provide the equivalent performance? Didn't a thread
on this list come to that conclusion about the 1200U (that it was ph
I recently scanned an ASA 400 negative with S4000 and Vuescan
6.3.9 using Windows 98. The outdoor scene is a two-year old child holding
her face in amazement at the sight of many very large pumpkins which dominate
the scene. When I use levels and curves, the final product is fairly good
ex
Dan,
Could you please tell me is it possible to use manual focus for RFS3600. It is
not so clear. Second problem is a driver: is it possible to upload it from nay
web page. In Japan I will get probably only Japanese one.
Regards
Tomasz
__
Do You Yah
Pete,
Thanks for the response. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area
and should be able to find some really spiffy light set up. I
have two places in mind already and some great information from
other people here. I just love spending money.
Guy
Tuesday, November 07, 20
> > Why would you expect any DPI to be 'best'? I am not saying
> > it's wrong (or even silly ;-), but I'd like to hear the reasoning.
> The printer's smallest dots are 1440dpi, but it needs a random pattern of
> them to create a pixel. The driver has to interpret the image sent to it
in
> some
I should have added the URL to my first post...so here it is:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
Dan Kimble wrote:
>
> I checked the B&H Photo web site today and it showed that they have more
> of the units in stock... So Order quickly...
>
> Dan Kimble
>
> >
> > OK Photo wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan, w
I checked the B&H Photo web site today and it showed that they have more
of the units in stock... So Order quickly...
Dan Kimble
>
> OK Photo wrote:
> >
> > Dan, would you mind telling me where you
> > purchased your 3600?
> >
> > Still no sign of it showing up in Canada.
> >
> > Paul
> > >>>
> I could stretch my budget a little a get a used leafscan 45,
I'd wait to see what happens when the new wave of MF scanners hits the
street...it should bring the price of the Leaf down...unless you can find a
mint one with LeafSet for around $2k...which is a steal IMO... The
brochure for the
shAf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is a mystery to me why the Epson manuals do not provide this
> information
I think one of the manuals that came with my Stylus 700 does say that 240dpi
is the best option when calculating the resolution to print at, but I would
have
to dig them out to check!
Austin Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why would you expect any DPI to be 'best'? I am not saying
> it's wrong (or even silly ;-), but I'd like to hear the reasoning.
The printer's smallest dots are 1440dpi, but it needs a random pattern of
them to create a pixel. The driver has to interp
Hi Pete,
> The Miraphoto scan of the truck has a mild blue cast, which makes
> comparison slightly difficult, but the most obvious thing is that
> Miraphoto has screwed up the black level (as it does with Fuji
> negative).
Pardon me, black level in RGB???
> You can get a compromise between Vues
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Erik Kaffehr wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Two out of three...
>
> I use VueScan and Linux with Minolta Dimage Scan Multi
>
> I have no fishes but my slides scans are just fine. Do you have the right
> Device->MediaType, and Media selection?
Yes - aparently according to the man, it's a
> > Austin, if I am not mistaken, I believe the 240 figure came
> > from Epson as the ideal efficient resolution
> > for printing maximum quality ...
> It is a mystery to me why the Epson manuals do not provide this
> information, and it is also interesting to point out this number has
> re
I do agree with shAf .
I have also asked Epson directly and they refused to tell me wich was the
suggested resolution ... they insisted 1440x720.
Simply not even EPSON support has this ''magic number'' thus I prefer ... so
far ... 360 because my 750 seems to like it better.
Sincerely.
Ezio
www.
Has anyone had experience with the Epson 1640SU scanner? Similar specs to
the Epson 1600 except uses a cold cathode fluorescent lamp whereas the 1600
has a xenon gas cold cathode fluorescent tube. Does that make much
difference? Other than a smaller transparency area the specs seem to be
equal (an
shAF,
What this number stands for is equally ambiguous. It is unclear if this
represents the maximium number of raw dpi that the priont driver will or can
utilize as input before dithering or if it represents the maximum raw dpi x
the line screen the print driver will or can utilize as input pri
> I examined the 3 prints using a high-quality 4x loupe. There
> was a slight but visible improvement in quality from 240 to 360,
> which didn't surprise me too much. What did surprise me was that
> there was about the same degree of improvement from the 360 to the
> non-resampled 367.9 print. It
I'm looking to buy a scanner for medium format film. 6x6 mostly, some 6x9.
As usual, they seem quite a bit more expensive than 35mm. I was hoping to
get some recommendations from people on the list. I'm looking in the 2Kish
range (usd).
First a basic question:
I'm outputting to an Epson 1270. Wha
Gregory Golyshev wrote:
> Not so long ago i bought a Scanwit to scan my film archive. And recently
> had some color problem. I've uploaded a small webpage to illustrate a
> problem. http://www.avallon.ru/~aspas/
Hi Gregory.
The Miraphoto scan of the truck has a mild blue cast, which makes
comp
With respect to your response, I would add in regard to question 2 that the
best Photoshop method of interpolation is the Bicubic method. As for other
programs handling this better, it is a controversial subject; but I would
suggest that Genuine Fractals, a Photoshop plugin, might be as good or
b
At 11:48 AM -0800 11/7/00, shAf wrote:
>
> It is a mystery to me why the Epson manuals do not provide this
>information, and it is also interesting to point out this number has
>remained the same since the very first Epson "Stylus Color" printer
>(720x720), for which the user manual did sugg
Steady on Guy, you'll burst something.
At least in the UK you can hold your head up in the neighbourhood even if you
don't own the entire contents of the Black & Decker catalogue.
Anyway, it's windy enough at the moment, without generating your own private
little hurricane. It seems like half the
Hi Bob.
Bob Armstrong wrote:
> Short update on scanning Pete's slide on the LS-30: Pete has been in touch
> and is going to post the slide to me when he gets a few spare minutes. I
> should be able to scan it quite soon after it arrives. I'm not sure if Pete
> want's the slide to perform its
> I use an old utility, CRT Align, for the job
>Any idea where (or even if) this is available?
Al, this came off the W95 Secrets 4th Ed. CD. I can easily send you a zipped file of
it if you like. It's only about 300kB.
Colin Maddock
Laurie writes ...
> Austin, if I am not mistaken, I believe the 240 figure came
> from Epson as the ideal efficient resolution
> for printing maximum quality ...
It is a mystery to me why the Epson manuals do not provide this
information, and it is also interesting to point out this numb
How are you getting the 16bit scan into photoshop?
I am having trouble getting this to happen.
If you take the 8bit scan, change it in photoshop to
16bit, and then do the manipulations, is it any better?
Also, if you used lasersoft or vuescan, would this also
manipulate the 8bit data and not the
Hi!
Two out of three...
I use VueScan and Linux with Minolta Dimage Scan Multi
I have no fishes but my slides scans are just fine. Do you have the right
Device->MediaType, and Media selection?
Once you get it working:
Check out www.scarse.org for great color profiling software...
Regards
Er
At 8:43 PM -0500 11/6/00, Austin Franklin wrote:
> > *All* Epson photo printers will print best at integer divisors of
>1440dpi.
>
>That is not universally true. Some people claim they see no difference at
>some 'magic' number, but to just keep the DPI above 240 or so...
>
>The driver has a dith
> > What I would like to see is a procedure to do the following (for
> > example): I
> > scan at 4000 DPI in a crop ratio 11:14. Then on A3 size paper I want to
> > print an image exactly 11"X14".
> I can tell you how I do it:-
I do it slightly differently, and I'd be curious if you'd compare th
> > (I guess I
> > should have tried changing the mode in Photoshop to 8 bit and then
> > doing the manipulation: in theory the histogram for that should then
> > look identical to driver manipulated scan.)
> Actually, PS is a lot kinder to histograms than most scanner s/w. Better,
> smarter, m
The replacement loaner scanner arrived Monday, 9:30am and is busily
scanning away.
The people at Polaroid have been responsive and helpful, but seem
overworked. It often takes 3-4 hours for them to return a call, and
sometimes that is well after their nominal quitting time (Polaroid
evidently has
> I noticed big decline is speed of scanning since I purchased Canon FS2710
> some two weeks ago, especialy notable in high-res scans. When I got the
> scanner it was fairly fast, however, it now takes some time to scan full
> frame @ 2720 dpi. I know my system is rather slow and misses an big up
Art,
You answered many questions. Thank you.
I work in a small glue factory and I am the computer person. My
needs for output vary widely. Our company likes to keep as much
work in-house as possible. We write and produce all of our own
product literature, labels, advert
Austin, if I am not mistaken, I believe the 240 figure came from Epson as
the ideal efficient resolution for printing maximum quality prints from some
of their models (e.g. 1200) according to Epson's tests and specs, which
generally state an average for printers of that model rather than a figure
> I've been confused by this for the last two years using the HP
> PhotoSmart Scanner, and now my SS4000 software allows the same thing.
>
> What I would like to see is a procedure to do the following (for
> example): I
> scan at 4000 DPI in a crop ratio 11:14. Then on A3 size paper I want to
>
> (I guess I
> should have tried changing the mode in Photoshop to 8 bit and then
> doing the manipulation: in theory the histogram for that should then
> look identical to driver manipulated scan.)
Actually, PS is a lot kinder to histograms than most scanner s/w. Better,
smarter, more expen
> This is
> what is happening to you when you stare too long at the screen. You
> over saturate because your eyes have compensated for the colors in front
> of you.
Fascinating, thanks! I know that when I spend a few hours in the darkroom,
emerging into bright sunlight is an extraordinary expe
> however what bothers me is that
> despite more or less same amount of free space on HDD for Win or PS swap
> scaning goes slower and slower.
Have you tried defragging your hard disk? And how much space have you got?
Regards
Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit;
Jim...Could you or some other viewer of this list please explain to me
EXACTLY what you mean by banding?...ie...banding as it shows up in the Epson
1160/1200/1270 instruction books with definite , descrete lines, or a more
"subtle" type as I seem to be getting on only SOME of my prints...I'm using
> Just to prevent reinventing the wheel, is this based upon personal
> experience? My assumption would be different (since Photoshop does a
> wonderful resampling job, and many printer spoolers do not
I've tried printing same image at 240,300,360 and 720dpi. I reckoned 300
looked slightly bette
Art,
Nope, I clearly remember you starting this thread.
Guy
> Do you realize that you have now made it appear that I watch Lawrence
> Welk? And this will sit somewhere in cyberspace for---ever? The quote
> above isn't mine, I think it's Guy Prince's.
> Art
> ...interpolating (or decimating, as
> some call downsizing by interpolation).
Technically interpolating shouldn't relate to downsizing... Inter- means
'between'...and polate 'polish'. Decimate means 'take the tenth man', deci
- 10, mate - man...
EOD says interpolate means 'insert words in
About a month ago I touched off a thread on the piezo list about banding going
away at certain dpi with piezo driver. But I was mistaken, it was extremely
sensitive to kind of paper, getting a good printer, image file(scan) quality,
and getting absolutely anal about nozzle and alignment checks. I
A question about vuescan & vueprint. When I first installed viewprint, it
gave me a screen to calibrate the monitor by, how do I get it back in all
it's detail? I can find the file, but it is of low resolution.
I am a new user with LS 30 and latest firmware and software, and the results
I have be
Art,
It was an original show with recent sketches with Bobby and his
adult son.
Cloning? Egads man, don't even ~think~ it.
> Guy
> I have to admit I haven't seen the show since we got a color X-Mozilla-Status: 0009
>ago??)
> Come to think of it, is that the original L. Welk, o
I have not yet calibrated my Cornerstone p1700 (it is fairly new, and my
getting serious about digital darkroom stuff is also fairly new) and I know
I could get closer to "reality" if I did it. How I get decent prints depends
on the image. If it has people in it, I adjust it to give good flesh ton
When a technical field takes an ordinary word from the language and gives it
a specialized meaning within its field, that's called jargon. Obviously, the
use of the word, decimation, is jargon within the signal processing field.
Frank Paris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Julie, female Galah (3 1/2 years and g
> > This is absolutely correct. You can send the printer driver any
resolution
> > you want, and it has to interpolate the data into halftone screens
anyway.
> > If you do leave the box checked, and resize, you will then be double
> > interpolating the data...once in PS and once in the printer
> > The Epson 1200 apparently prints best at an output dpi of 240 but what about
> > the best output dpi for the Epson 1270?
> Why would you expect it to be different?
Why would you expect any DPI to be 'best'? I am not saying it's wrong (or even silly
;-), but I'd like to hear the reasoning.
>I won't have to figure out SilverFast, which looks quite horrible, superfically
>anyhow, whereas even >superficially it was obvious that VueScan is going to be very
>utilitarian.
They are different animals. It is hard to beat SilverFast HDR for
histogram and color corrections of slides. Both
At 08:51 PM 06-11-00 -0800, you wrote:
>I'm embarrassed to have to ask this question. I brought up SilverFast for
>the first time and it is utterly beyond me how to select a specific frame,
>or how to advance to the next frame. I tried every button in the interface
>and I printed off the user manu
Art,
Thanks for the info. I didn't know if the changes made in the 1270 would
include the optimal output dpi setting.
Steve
- Original Message -
From: Arthur Entlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: 4000 dp
Igor,
the FS2710 scanner will take in excess of three minutes to
scan a 35mm. Slide or Negative at 2700dpi. The advertising
information is economical with the truth. We use a couple of ordinary
400MHz. PIIs. with abput 13GByte hard discs and Win-98.
If you want a significant imp
First i want to thank everybody for comments and discussing this subject
Over here in europe umax powerlook III and other alternatives were $400-500
more expensive, and the new Agfa arcus 1200 which might be an interesting
scanner still isn't available. ( will be less than $900)
So i got for abo
Guy Prince wrote:
>
> Okay, I am back at work and able to use the filmscanner again.
> Thank goodness.
>
> I just scanned a mostly dark slide (supposed to be dark) at
> 1200 dpi and, in picture publisher, changed the dimensions to
> 7" x 4.66". The .tif
Frank - Unless I am missing something this is actually very simple. Forgive
me if this is teaching you to suck eggs but let me have a go at resolving
your dilemma, based on my own months of confusion before finally working it
out - at least to my satisfaction...
1) In your Nikon software open
photoscientia wrote:
>
> The problem is, that you can get used to anything, even a poor monitor.
> After a while, you don't notice the slight magenta cast, or the fact that
> you can't see any shadow detail below a pixel value of 50, and it gets to
> the point where you literally can't believe
Stephen Irving wrote:
>
> The Epson 1200 apparently prints best at an output dpi of 240 but what about
> the best output dpi for the Epson 1270?
>
Why would you expect it to be different?
Art
Austin Franklin wrote:
>
> This is absolutely correct. You can send the printer driver any resolution
> you want, and it has to interpolate the data into halftone screens anyway.
> If you do leave the box checked, and resize, you will then be double
> interpolating the data...once in PS and
Guy Prince wrote:
>
> Pete,
>
> You've brought up several good points. First, many times it is
> the person behind the keyboard making the mistakes and not the
> equipment. (my neighbor at this very moment is using a gas
> powered leaf blower right outside my window, I ca
Tony Sleep wrote:
>
> > Just a quick comment regarding monitor adjustment.
>
> I don't disagree Art. It was just that it's something which should be got
> out of the way at the outset, and mightn't have occurred to someone who is
> new to all this.
>
Fair enough. My reason for making my comme
This issue is getting very muddied up. While everything Laurie says
below is correct, there is one point which might be lost on some
people. Changing the image size in Photoshop without checking the
"resample" box, does absolutely nothing to the file outside of
Photoshop. It is an internal funct
Bill Ross wrote:
> Speaking of Epson tho, I didn't see the 1160 on their web
> site - is it out of production?
>
> Bill Ross
I did notice it being dumped recently at very reasonable pricing.
Further Epson has just released a new series of very reasonably priced
2880 x 720 dpi printers in the
Johnny Deadman wrote:
>
> on 5/11/00 8:16 pm, Arthur Entlich at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > But when I want to be warm and comfy, I sit in the living room
> >> (big enough for 5 people on two sofas) with my laptop and pretend
> >> everything is rosey while watching Lawrence Welk. Tonight's
Guy Prince wrote:
>
> Art,
>
> Point taken. But the bright orange blazers and pants with the
> bright orange background kept me mesmerized. I was helpless.
>
>
Guy
I have to admit I haven't seen the show since we got a color TV...
(about 35 years ago??)
Come to think of it, is tha
cd's to go wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I hope this isn't too much off topic. At the moment I am scanning both
> slides and negatives with a Minolta Scan Dual II. I do the scanning at
> maximum resolution (2820 dpi), open the files in Photoshop 6.0, crop the
> photo slightly and do all my colour co
Dear List,
I noticed big decline is speed of scanning since I purchased Canon FS2710
some two weeks ago, especialy notable in high-res scans. When I got the
scanner it was fairly fast, however, it now takes some time to scan full
frame @ 2720 dpi. I know my system is rather slow and misses an bi
If I understand you aright, you need to create a frame of dashed lines
around the image in the preview. Just use the mouse and drag with button
depressed. Once you have one or more of these, you can select the one
you want by clicking inside it.
Tim M.
- Original Message -
From: Frank P
Colin wrote:
> I use an old utility, CRT Align, for the job
Any idea where (or even if) this is available?
Al Bond
Bob Wright wrote:
> Al, how have you concluded that the Scan Elite
> software does all its calculations on 8 bit data?
I did two scans of the same slide. With the first, I went to the
levels tool in the driver software and adjusted the midtone (gamma)
from 1 to 1.5. I then scanned in 16 bit
Best downsampling is exactly half length ;for example 1800pixel wide down to
900pixels wide. Some scannerprograms, such as Agfa Color exact2.1, are far more
sophisticated then photoshop in unsharpmask and a correct sized correct
sharpened scan is best,you will then avoid additional use of unsharp
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