Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread John Bell
At 4:46 pm -0400 21.10.2003, David H. Bailey wrote: There are none at this level. There is Graphire Music Press, which is supposedly bringing a new version with a new pricing scheme (they had a "pay for so many hours and then the meter stops") where you actually buy unlimited usage. But this i

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Huggins
deal! RH > From: "David Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:46:36 +0100 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade > > They've had the same images on the website for many years. Th

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David Horne
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:58:27 -0400, "David H. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The juxtaposition of your final two sentences is curious -- would it be > more impressive if you knew someone had spent two months on it? Would > it be more impressive if you knew someone spent two hours on it? O

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David H. Bailey
The juxtaposition of your final two sentences is curious -- would it be more impressive if you knew someone had spent two months on it? Would it be more impressive if you knew someone spent two hours on it? I would think the appearance would make it impressive or not, regardless of how much ti

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David Horne
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:09:12 -0500, "Richard Huggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Several years ago I actually tried Graphire for awhile, even bought a key > for something like 90 hours or so. I forget what transpired but I decided > that wasn't going to work for me and I sought to sell the key to

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Huggins
Several years ago I actually tried Graphire for awhile, even bought a key for something like 90 hours or so. I forget what transpired but I decided that wasn't going to work for me and I sought to sell the key to someone else. The folks at Graphire went above and beyond to help me do that, since re

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David H. Bailey
There are none at this level. There is Graphire Music Press, which is supposedly bringing a new version with a new pricing scheme (they had a "pay for so many hours and then the meter stops") where you actually buy unlimited usage. But this is still only in the rumor stages. But from what I

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Huggins
I know there are a few other notation programs out there, but If there were no Finale, would there be a serious competitor to Sibelius (that INCLUDED the Macintosh platform)? What would keep Sibelius honest and interested in upgrading/improving their features? --Richard _

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 01:17 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: It just does not seem to fit the personality of the members of this list to willingly give up an original program CD. Count me as surprised. (And once copy protection comes into play I don't think burning a CD solves anything, d

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 02:12 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: Sibelius is bragging these days that even hard-core Finale corporations such as Hal Leonard are switching to Sibelius because of its on-line publishing capabilities and the Scorch plug-in for browsers. When I worked in a Sibeliu

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David H. Bailey
Sibelius IS easier to use right out of the box. And that's about how far it goes. For a large number of users, that's all that's needed. I agree with you that Finale is definitely on the fasttrack to becoming the WordPerfect of notation packages. Let's just hope that some adventurous company

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David H. Bailey
How would they know that wasn't your latest upgrade? Richard Huggins wrote: It just does not seem to fit the personality of the members of this list to willingly give up an original program CD. Count me as surprised. (And once copy protection comes into play I don't think burning a CD solves an

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Oct 2003 at 13:14, David H. Bailey wrote: > Well, they're hoping you won't ever use any other software again. > Having bought last year's competitive upgrade (I sent in the pages > from the table of contents), I can assure you that most hard-core > Finale users will not enjoy using Sibelius

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Huggins
It just does not seem to fit the personality of the members of this list to willingly give up an original program CD. Count me as surprised. (And once copy protection comes into play I don't think burning a CD solves anything, does it?) However, the sending in of an earlier program CD (e.g., Final

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David H. Bailey
Well, they're hoping you won't ever use any other software again. Having bought last year's competitive upgrade (I sent in the pages from the table of contents), I can assure you that most hard-core Finale users will not enjoy using Sibelius very much. It has a couple of neat things, but when

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David H. Bailey
Yes, indeed, that would have made the meaning clear. But the fact that CDs don't have first or second pages of a table of contents also made the meaning clear. d. collins wrote: David H. Bailey écrit: The OR stops the modifier of "pages of the." Proof of ownership must be provided by mailing

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Brad Beyenhof
Well, I'm sure you have more than one program CD. I, for instance, have CDs for all versions 2000-2004. Also, it's not difficult to make a backup copy before sending out the original (if you actually wanted to buy Sibelius...). I think that their point of doing the whole "competitive upgrade

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 12:51 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: Okay...do they send it back? I mean, are there people that actually would give up their original program CD (not getting it back)? Well, yes. Lots. The whole point of the promotion is that you are in theory *switching* to Sib

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Huggins
Okay...do they send it back? I mean, are there people that actually would give up their original program CD (not getting it back)? --RH > From: "David H. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The OR stops the modifier of "pages of the." > > Proof of ownership must be provided by mailing (the first & se

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread David H. Bailey
The OR stops the modifier of "pages of the." Proof of ownership must be provided by mailing (the first & second pages of the table of contents in the user manual) or (original program CD.) Richard Huggins wrote: How would you provide "pages" of a program CD? --RH From: John Hinchey <[EMAIL

Re: [Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Huggins
How would you provide "pages" of a program CD? --RH > From: John Hinchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Proof of ownership must be provided by mailing the first & second pages of the > table of contents in the user manual or original program CD. ___ Finale mai

[Finale] FYI Finale or Mosaic to Sibelius competitive upgrade

2003-10-21 Thread John Hinchey
Hell all, I know there are many of us who have to use several different notation packages to keep clients happy. So FYI I got the following e mail from Larry Marchese the Director of US Marketing for Sibelius. You can now get a competitive upgrade from Mosaic to Sibelius (which you couldno