On 25 Aug 2004, at 12:40 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
But since I've *always* read the web in a fashion that made multiple
windows annoying, tabbed browsing was a huge annoyance. Some of my
typical browsing scenarios: [examples snipped]
Hmm. Sounds confusing to me. My thinking is very linear. I want to
On 25 Aug 2004, at 12:44 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
If instead there was a lot of shouting about how Finale is superior
and Sibelius is for stupid people -- which was a fairly typical
reaction in the past -- I wonder if it would have had the same result.
Yes, but persuasiveness aside, shouting about h
On Aug 24, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Kathleen Muscettola wrote:
Thank you all for the helpful information. What a great list!
I ended up buying Finale at a great price from an academic website.
I find it very interesting that a collection of informed, balanced and
fair-minded considerations of the advant
On Aug 24, 2004, at 10:46 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
I know many people who said "who cares" for months, even years, and
then actually tried it and then said "Oh! Now I get it!"
So I've heard. Perhaps some day I'll be one of those. But not today.
If you like re-using a single window for every docu
Kathleen Muscettola wrote:
Thank you all for the helpful information. What a great list!
I ended up buying Finale at a great price from an academic website.
I KNEW you were a smart lady.
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Gordon J. Callon wrote:
I think the most recent information about Allegro is at:
http://www.finalemusic.com/allegro/
Though it does not say much, the www page is very recent.
I suspect the reason the page is very recent is due to the updated link
to upgrade to 2k5. As far as I can see, there i
Thank you all for the helpful information. What a great list!
I ended up buying Finale at a great price from an academic website.
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Thanks to David Bailey and Mark Lew for their response to my hyphen
question. As it turns out, the answer was in the User Manual. It is called
Update Hyphens in the Lyric menu. I never saw it before. MM Tech Support
directed me to it.
I am less grumpy now. :-)
Ken
"Nothing in this life is to b
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:05:48 -0700, James Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Opera 6
If you're using Opera 6, would you please e-mail me off-list. I just
jumped (somewhat involuntarily*) to Opera, and wouldn't mind some pointers.
*downloaded NS7.2, and now NO netscape connections work. Grmph
On 24 Aug 2004 at 19:37, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> On 24 Aug 2004, at 02:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > On 24 Aug 2004 at 14:52, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> >
> >> Actually what it sounds like is that the Windows Bluetooth
> >> implementation is really, really lousy.
> >
> > What the hell do
I think the most recent information about Allegro is at:
http://www.finalemusic.com/allegro/
Though it does not say much, the www page is very recent.
There is a PDF comparison chart of the various Finale notation
products at:
http://65.200.22.250/forms/product_comparisons.pdf
GJC
On 24 Aug 200
In response to my comment
I've seen an older Finale offering, Allegro, still available in
various retail software channel establishments, though, and since it
seems to be an abandoned product, that is the only one I'd suggest you
avoid
David Bailey wrote
What makes you say it's been abandoned?
On 24 Aug 2004, at 02:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 24 Aug 2004 at 14:52, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Actually what it sounds like is that the Windows Bluetooth
implementation is really, really lousy.
What the hell does Bluetooth have to do with it? Neither WiFi or the
MS cordless mouse run on Blue
Opera 6
On 24.08.2004 13:58 Uhr, "Owain Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Owain Sutton wrote:
>
>> Or Opera.
>
> (I think...)
>
>>
>>
>> James Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> Netscape 7.2
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24.08.2004 12:53 Uhr, "Eden - Lawrence D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
I've seen an older Finale offering, Allegro, still available in various
retail software channel establishments, though, and since it seems to be
an abandoned product, that is the only one I'd suggest you avoid.
What makes you say it's been abandoned? It's listed on their
Owain Sutton wrote:
Or Opera.
(I think...)
James Bailey wrote:
Netscape 7.2
On 24.08.2004 12:53 Uhr, "Eden - Lawrence D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
What browser is better than IE if I am still using OS 9.2?
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Or Opera.
James Bailey wrote:
Netscape 7.2
On 24.08.2004 12:53 Uhr, "Eden - Lawrence D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What browser is better than IE if I am still using OS 9.2?
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On 24.08.2004 12:53 Uhr, "Eden - Lawrence D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What browser is better than IE if I am still using OS 9.2?
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Responding to my comment to Darcy,
based upon my experience I see two possible reasons to do it a shape:
first, if the expression is already a shape, all of the existing
instances can be changed in one move;
"jef" wrote:
unless applied using metatool assignment... BUT! i have been told by
tech
Kathleen,
IMO, there is one thing you should consider before choosing not to
purchase Finale: is there any chance that you and your students would
benefit from the SmartMusic studio that MakeMusic! produces separately
from the Notation software.
I suggest you spend the time to review the Smar
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Darcy James Argue wrote:
Actually what it sounds like is that the Windows Bluetooth
implementation is really, really lousy.
I have an Apple wireless keyboard and mouse (both Bluetooth), and the
batteries last for months. Plus, the OS warns you when the batteries
are getting low, well in advanc
The biggest factor now is the toolbox for SMARTMUSIC that will never
be in Sibelius. As an applied teacher, you need to run, not walk, to
the SMARTMUSIC site and get a license. I was just told that my
Finale2005 is on the loading dock in Minnesota; however, the toolbox
for turning FINALE into S
On 24 Aug 2004 at 14:52, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> Actually what it sounds like is that the Windows Bluetooth
> implementation is really, really lousy.
What the hell does Bluetooth have to do with it? Neither WiFi or the
MS cordless mouse run on Bluetooth.
> I have an Apple wireless keyboard
Actually what it sounds like is that the Windows Bluetooth
implementation is really, really lousy.
I have an Apple wireless keyboard and mouse (both Bluetooth), and the
batteries last for months. Plus, the OS warns you when the batteries
are getting low, well in advance of any performance degr
On 24 Aug 2004 at 14:30, Christopher Smith wrote:
>
> On Aug 24, 2004, at 1:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote about wireless
> mouses:
> > Do you have a wireless network? If so, the batteries
> > run out much, much more quickly. And it doesn't even have to be
> > *your* wireless network -- any WiFi n
On Aug 24, 2004, at 1:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote about wireless
mouses:
Do you have a wireless network? If so, the batteries run out much,
much more quickly. And it doesn't even have to be *your* wireless
network -- any WiFi network in the same area can interfere enough to
cause problems.
Reall
>I would like feedback on Finale v.s. Sibelius...
>Thanks
>Kathleen
If I remember well, David H. Bailey wrote a good text about Finale v.s.
Sibelius.
Try to look through the pas topics, I think it should be possible
Giovanni Andreani
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No, I'm working a standalone computer in my office -- no network in sight
(site?).
At 01:48 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
On 23 Aug 2004 at 22:37, Giz Bowe wrote:
> I've actually had quite good luck with a Microsoft Optical Mouse --
> works like it's supposed to, and the batteries last at least 8 weeks
Would you prefer "This piano sonata was instrumentated for string
quartet?"
Not at all. "Arranged" will do, as will "transcribed" or even "scored."
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
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On Aug 24, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Well, what precisely constitutes an orchestra? I
Loosely, any ensemble of more than 10 instruments, the majority being
members of the violin family.
More strictly, any such ensemble in which each of the bowed-string
parts is rendered by two or
On 24 Aug 2004 at 11:03, Andrew Stiller wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2004, at 6:57 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
>
> > On Aug 23, 2004, at 6:17 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >
> >> On 23 Aug 2004 at 11:35, Mark D Lew wrote:
> >>
> >>> The definitions that Andrew Stiller gave sound exactly right to
> >>> me.
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark D Lew
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>Just more evidence that the difference between the various types of
>work is a continuum and you can always find a gray area at the margin.
Lord Kelvin wrote (something like), "Science starts when measurement
starts". Langua
On 24 Aug 2004 at 13:51, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> On 24 Aug 2004, at 01:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > But since I've *always* read the web in a fashion that made multiple
> > windows annoying, tabbed browsing was a huge annoyance.
>
> I'm pretty sure you meant the opposite of what you ju
On 24 Aug 2004, at 01:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
But since I've *always* read the web in a fashion that made multiple
windows annoying, tabbed browsing was a huge annoyance.
I'm pretty sure you meant the opposite of what you just said.
- Darcy
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On 23 Aug 2004 at 22:37, Giz Bowe wrote:
> At 05:03 PM 8/23/04, you wrote:
> >On 21 Aug 2004 at 18:57, Christopher Smith wrote:
> >
> > > One is a Logitech cordless optical mouse
> >
> >Wait until the batteries start to run out.
> >
> >Which should be about two hours after you hook it up.
> >
> >M
On 23 Aug 2004 at 17:57, Mark D Lew wrote:
> On Aug 23, 2004, at 3:35 PM, Owain Sutton wrote:
>
> > My successes in the latter have all been down to tabbed browsing -
> > nobody can ignore that.
>
> I've been pretty successful at ignoring it. Ever since I got onto OS
> X and Safari last fall,
Kathleen Muscettola wrote:
I would like feedback on Finale v.s. Sibelius. I am a flutist, private
teacher, general music teacher and flute choir director. I would be
using a notation program for all of these jobs. I use a G4 Powerbook,
OS X, and have midi controller etc. I tried Finale on a
On 24 Aug 2004 at 1:16, Owain Sutton wrote:
>[quoting me, unattributed:]
> > A small toll, one that is worth defragmenting every month or so or
> > after any major churning of your drive (such as an OS upgrade).
> > Also, one thing that makes a huge difference is how you partition
> > your drives
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Now I've used the word "orchestration" so much it's beginning to look
like a made-up word... :)
ALL words are made up. Originally.
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From: Noel Stoutenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Darcy, based upon my experience I see two possible reasons to do it
a shape: first, if the expression is already a shape, all of the
existing instances can be changed in one move;
unless applied using metatool assignment... BUT! i have been told by
tec
Hello Jari,
Are your plug-ins updated to work on Finale 2005 for Mac?
Thanks,
Martin
On Aug 22, 2004, at 7:30 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Hello!
I've created a plug-in to access the 'hidden' Fin2005 feature where
you can set the extra 'Before Music' option individually for each staff
system (the in
I use both products.
I have used Finale since version 1 on a Mac Plus (yes I am old as
dirt...) My Finale serial number has three digits.
I purchased Sibelius when it first came out when I was asked to help
out on a big orchestra project. At that time I still preferred Finale
(this was about y
On Aug 24, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Kathleen Muscettola wrote:
I would like feedback on Finale v.s. Sibelius. I am a flutist,
private teacher, general music teacher and flute choir director. I
would be using a notation program for all of these jobs. I use a G4
Powerbook, OS X, and have midi contro
I would like feedback on Finale v.s. Sibelius. I am a flutist,
private teacher, general music teacher and flute choir director. I
would be using a notation program for all of these jobs. I use a G4
Powerbook, OS X, and have midi controller etc. I tried Finale on a
friend's computer and rea
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:16:35 -0700, Richard Yates
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And then I discovered tabbed Windows
> and was hooked at once. I had always wished for this feature (without
> knowing exactly what it would be) as I kept trying to use "Open in new
> window" in IE and never finding it
On Aug 24, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Aug 23, 2004, at 6:57 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Aug 23, 2004, at 6:17 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 23 Aug 2004 at 11:35, Mark D Lew wrote:
The definitions that Andrew Stiller gave sound exactly right to me.
My only quibble is with the id
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:03:13 -0400, Andrew Stiller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So you guys wd. have no problem with, "this piano sonata was later
> orchestrated for string quartet"? To me that makes as much sense as
> "Admission is free, so pay at the door; pull up a chair and sit on the
> flo
I always thought of orchestration as simply the process of writing music for
instruments; whereas transcription would be used in any case where the
destination ensemble is not the same as the original. So Bach's versions of
Vivaldi's concerto's works as a transcription as well as transcribing a
pi
Thanks to Darcy and to all others who responded. I've got some possible
solutions to fool around with now, and I'll see if any of them work...
Andrew Stiller
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At 10:53 AM 8/24/04 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote:
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>On Aug 23, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>
>> "Classical" does not function anymore, and
>> we are *not* stuck with it. I
>
>Works fine for me. Have you tried reinstalling it?
Several times. And each time, I experience conversati
On Aug 23, 2004, at 6:57 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Aug 23, 2004, at 6:17 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 23 Aug 2004 at 11:35, Mark D Lew wrote:
The definitions that Andrew Stiller gave sound exactly right to me.
My only quibble is with the idea that "orchestration" applies only to
orchestras.
On Aug 23, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
"Classical" does not function anymore, and
we are *not* stuck with it. I
Works fine for me. Have you tried reinstalling it?
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
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At 05:09 AM 8/24/04 -0500, Dennis W. Manasco wrote:
>Finale has already reached subscription status.
>Once users surrendered themselves to groveling before the Finale Copy
>Protection Server for each installation subscription status was fait
>accompli.
>Why should the Copy Protection Server allow
Jari, thanks so much. MM should have pay you big money for backing them up
:)
with regards,
Abel K.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 1:30 AM
Subject: [Finale] Fin2005: 'Before Music' at Staff Systems
Richard Yates wrote:
(By the way, the closing browser mystery turned out to have an odd solution.
I had set the middle button of my wheel mouse to 'close application'.
Apparently when some sites downloaded this command got cross-wired (even
though the button was not pressed) and closed the browse
Dennis W. Manasco wrote:
Finale has already reached subscription status.
Once users surrendered themselves to groveling before the Finale Copy
Protection Server for each installation subscription status was fait
accompli.
Why should the Copy Protection Server allow the installation of a
no-long
Dennis W. Manasco wrote:
[snip]>
Look at other companies that have switched to Copy Protection Servers:
Intuit deprecates older versions as regularly as clockwork; look at what
Microsoft is doing to every version of Windows prior to (its Copy
Protection Server "enhanced") XP.
What is Microsoft d
At 5:55 pm -0400 8/23/04, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 22 Aug 2004 at 15:02, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
How many of you who are not upgrading to 2k5 would be
willing to pay the same price as the upgrade to continue using 2k4?
Not me.
...
companies *hate* paying subscriptions for software, and I don't b
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