Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Baileyreply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Oops, yeah, you're right. Duh.I just assumed..oh nevermind. Back in lurk mode. Bill wrote: Eric, Engraver Time ships with Finale. My version of it, "Big Time", is exactly the same but with Cut and Common time added (and the "+" glyph added). My version of big time signatures fo

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Baileyreply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Bill
Eric, Engraver Time ships with Finale. My version of it, "Big Time", is exactly the same but with Cut and Common time added (and the "+" glyph added). My version of big time signatures for scores is a bit smaller than Karen's (to save horizontal space, but quite readable for any conductor as

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openeda can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Karen
Yes. This has been my experience too. Once you go to Document Options>Stems>Stem Connections>Create and select the font and the notehead you want to adjust, make adjustments, the stem connections are set throughout the document from then on. Once you have your stem connections the way yo

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Bailey reply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Of course, this assumes he has Bill's Finale Productivity fonts... Karen wrote: Hi Owain, Here are the settings I use for this. You can make adjustments to your liking of course but maybe this will give you a starting point. Document Settings>Fonts I set the Notation: Time font to

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Bailey reply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Karen
Hi Owain, Here are the settings I use for this. You can make adjustments to your liking of course but maybe this will give you a starting point. Document Settings>Fonts I set the Notation: Time font to EngraverTime 72 plain Document Settings>Time Signatures Under the "Vertical Adju

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Carl Dershem
Darcy James Argue wrote: S = solo, M = mute. - Darcy Thanks! cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
S = solo, M = mute. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 05 May 2006, at 9:49 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: Instrument list and (in Fin '06) Studio View. The instrument list is ... often not clear. Using FinWin2004, there

Re: [Finale] Triplet pickups - bug

2006-05-05 Thread Raymond Horton
I concur, absolutely, with Johannes - do not make pickup measures from the Setup Wizard. If you do, you will very likely have a problem of some sort, eventually. Make your own pickup measure after you are out of the Wizard. RBH Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 04.05.2006 Stephen Lamb wrote:

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Carl Dershem
Darcy James Argue wrote: Instrument list and (in Fin '06) Studio View. The instrument list is ... often not clear. Using FinWin2004, there are columns with initials above them, but what those initials DO is not clear, and the documentation (such as it is) is also not enlightening. Fin 200

[Finale] Finale Script : printing a booklet

2006-05-05 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I have seen this talked about as a subject a few times, where exactly do I find this booklet script and some pointers on how to run it?Thanks Kim Patrick Clow ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Instrument list and (in Fin '06) Studio View. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 05 May 2006, at 9:28 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 05 May 2006, at 9:11 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: In playback, being able to select a subset of

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Carl Dershem
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 05 May 2006, at 9:11 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: In playback, being able to select a subset of parts for playback (the sax section, the violins, the [fill-in-the-blank] section. Again, already possible (and very easy) with mute/solo, mute/unmute all, etc. I've n

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 05 May 2006, at 9:11 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: In playback, being able to select a subset of parts for playback (the sax section, the violins, the [fill-in-the-blank] section. Again, already possible (and very easy) with mute/solo, mute/unmute all, etc. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Carl Dershem
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Not that I really have the time, but this is something which I have been wanting to start a long time ago. There are numerous things which I think Finale could do much better if small changes were made. This is not really about feature requests for new features, just a

Re: [Finale] Human playback hangs with fermata?

2006-05-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:23 PM 5/5/2006 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: >I have not seen this in my own files. Multiple fermattas have always >been fine -- although HP doesn't always catch them all, playback does >not hang. Thanks for checking. It just sits there about 1/3 of the way through the HP playback prep

Re: [Finale] subtext for alternate bass

2006-05-05 Thread Mike Greensill
>Christopher That's the one I was looking for! I thanked Rafael before I'd tried his method which turns out not to be the one I wanted. I also don't like the vertical arrangement. It's hard to sight read quickly. I always want the bas

RE: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openeda can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Owain Sutton
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darcy James Argue > Sent: 05 May 2006 23:46 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question > (Eek,I openeda can of worms) > > > On 05 May 2006, at 6:40 PM, Owain

Re: [Finale] subtext for alternate bass

2006-05-05 Thread Mike Greensill
> Thanks Rafael..I didn't know that one! Yours Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openeda can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 05 May 2006, at 6:40 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: Just a thought - is there any way to apply staff styles to a specific section of a measure (e.g. 2 1/2 beats) before any notes or rests have been entered? I know it would make some things simpler for me. You need real notes or rests to even make

RE: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openeda can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Owain Sutton
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darcy James Argue > Sent: 05 May 2006 21:22 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question > (Eek,I openeda can of worms) > > > > On 05 May 2006, at 9:06 AM, Sc

Re: [Finale] Fin2005 - spacing of seconds w/Petrucci

2006-05-05 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
This ones a real long shot...(and I'm really sorry you ended up having to special tool it, I've definitely been there). Maybe check your font annotation file for petrucci against the maestro one and see if there is some weird bounding issue with the notehead character. You never know. -Scot On 5

Re: [Finale] subtext for alternate bass

2006-05-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-May-06, at 12:12 PM, Mike Greensill wrote: I can't seem to find how to make "subtext" the default style for alternate bass chords rather than "after root". You already got an answer about how to enter chords with the "denominator" underneath. You know that you have three possibiliti

Re: [Finale] Fin2005 - spacing of seconds w/Petrucci

2006-05-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
I'm using layers. Maybe V1/V2 would be better, but I could never get the hang of using voices instead of layers. (I don't even know if that would be an option for this client, since V1/2 is such a pain to edit vs. layers.) - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Bro

Re: [Finale] Fin2005 - spacing of seconds w/Petrucci

2006-05-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 May 2006 at 16:17, Darcy James Argue wrote: > This is my own file, and spacing is set to clear manual positioning > and (obviously) adjust for seconds. This is clearly a Finale problem > -- some seconds are offset correctly, but many others aren't. I ended > up having to use Special Tools

Re: [Finale] Human playback hangs with fermata?

2006-05-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
I have not seen this in my own files. Multiple fermattas have always been fine -- although HP doesn't always catch them all, playback does not hang. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 05 May 2006, at 1:53 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Hi al

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openeda can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 05 May 2006, at 9:06 AM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote: You saying that about staff styles reminded me of how many times I've wished that the "select partial measures" option would let you actually apply something to just that part of the measure.There are so many things, (staff styles, measure

Re: [Finale] Fin2005 - spacing of seconds w/Petrucci

2006-05-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Scott, This is my own file, and spacing is set to clear manual positioning and (obviously) adjust for seconds. This is clearly a Finale problem -- some seconds are offset correctly, but many others aren't. I ended up having to use Special Tools to drag the ones that were offset incorre

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread dhbailey
Bruce Hunter wrote: dc wrote: I'd have quite a few, but here's one that should be easy to implement, and that I really missed recently: - in the measure attributes, the possibility to show the clef, as one can show the time or the key signature. The amount of fiddling this now requires is incr

Re: [Finale] Human playback hangs with fermata?

2006-05-05 Thread Gerald Berg
Well I know it interprets all fermata at the beginning of measures no matter what. Jerry On 5-May-06, at 1:53 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Hi all, I was just proofing something, and discovered that human playback appears to hang when there are fermatas in different parts. I'm not sure i

[Finale] Human playback hangs with fermata?

2006-05-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, I was just proofing something, and discovered that human playback appears to hang when there are fermatas in different parts. I'm not sure if it's different parts or overlapping beats, but it just sits there and sucks nearly 100% CPU. I've done a data check, and no problems turn up. Anybo

Re: [Finale] subtext for alternate bass

2006-05-05 Thread Rafael
On 5 May 2006 at 9:12, Mike Greensill wrote: > I can't seem to find how to make "subtext" the default style for > alternate bass chords rather than "after root". > > BTW Dennis' suggestion for a "page style" feature is the most > brilliant yet. > > Mike Greensill > > www.mikegreensill.com >

RE: [Finale] Re: Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I opened a can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Owain Sutton
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Moore > Sent: 05 May 2006 16:00 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: [Finale] Re: Sibelius/Finale question (Eek,I opened > a can of worms) > > > Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

[Finale] subtext for alternate bass

2006-05-05 Thread Mike Greensill
I can't seem to find how to make "subtext" the default style for alternate bass chords rather than "after root". BTW Dennis' suggestion for a "page style" feature is the most brilliant yet. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale maili

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Bailey reply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 May 2006 at 6:40, Éric Dussault wrote: > Le 06-05-05 à 04:26, Johannes Gebauer a écrit : > > > My ties do look almost like slurs, and tweaking a dashed slur to > > look like a tie is not difficult. > > Tell me your trick to get a tapered dotted slur, because it's so > easy to adjust the

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openeda can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 5, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote: You saying that about staff styles reminded me of how many times I've wished that the "select partial measures" option would let you actually apply something to just that part of the measure. There are so many things, (staff styles, measure

Re: [Finale] Re: Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I opened a can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Barbara Touburg
Ken Moore wrote: Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wrote a work in 19-note equal temperament and needed playback, so I used a set of non-printing expressions that did the appropriate pitch bend. I used the notes C C# Db D D# Eb E E# F etc. (all different) and used the same id

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, Iopenedacanof worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:52 PM 5/5/2006 +0200, Barbara Touburg wrote: >Ooo, Dennis, and what are you willing to pay for it all? I'd buy a copy again at full retail, to same way I bought my first copy! I've already paid for the original, Adobe Type Manager (which we Windows users needed back then), 10 upgrades (I ski

[Finale] Re: Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I opened a can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Ken Moore
Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On May 4, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Owain Sutton wrote: You can enter the half-sharps and whatnot as articulations, and they will be automatically placed and spaced (except for chords, yikes!) though you won't get microtonal playback. (Fr

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openedacan of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Barbara Touburg
Ooo, Dennis, and what are you willing to pay for it all? I forgot: next year you'll have some money to spend... :) Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: (long list) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openedacan of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:06 AM 5/5/2006 -0500, Scot Hanna-Weir wrote: >how many times I've wished >that the "select partial measures" option would let you actually apply >something to just that part of the measure. There are so many things, (staff >styles, measure attributes, plugins), that only work on a full measur

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Bruce Hunter
dc wrote: I'd have quite a few, but here's one that should be easy to implement, and that I really missed recently: - in the measure attributes, the possibility to show the clef, as one can show the time or the key signature. The amount of fiddling this now requires is incredible. dc, the foll

[Finale] Fw: FinWin 2k5b - opening Fin2003 files with messed fonts

2006-05-05 Thread themark
  - Original Message - From: themark To: finale@lists.shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: FinWin 2k5b - opening Fin2003 files with messed fonts I tried to open some files (templates actually) I created with 2003 version and all the fonts are wrong. I get watches

Re: [Finale] Measure widths ...manually setting them versus letting Finale do it.

2006-05-05 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
Title: Re: [Finale] Measure widths ...manually setting them versus letting Finale do it. System breaks are applied to a measure using the measure tool. (Double clicking for measure attributes). Page breaks are applied to a system using the page layout tool. (From the pull down menu, “insert page

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Bailey reply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
On 5/5/06 3:25 AM, "Johannes Gebauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04.05.2006 Éric Dussault wrote: >> Le 06-05-04 à 09:19, Christopher Smith a écrit : >> >>> What would be easier than entering a dashed slur? >> >> Christopher, Finale's slur is not tapered like a real slur. It's only a >> curv

Re: [Finale] Fin2005 - spacing of seconds w/Petrucci

2006-05-05 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
Darcy, Is it a client file that you are performing edits on? I've often found when working with files provided by another source that a lot of people drag all kinds of crap around without thinking about the implications. Does setting the "clear" manual positioning in music spacing document opti

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question (Eek, I openeda can of worms)

2006-05-05 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
On 5/4/06 7:27 PM, "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 4, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: >> >> Remember that 'document' does not necessarily mean 'composition'. Some >> of these tweaks are related to wanting to put together numerous >> 'examples' as part of a worksh

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Christopher Smith
In the Mac version of Finale 2006 this is broken right now; the handles are wildly misplaced. I don't know about the PC version. This is supposed to work. It is an obvious bug that has been there for a while. Christopher On May 5, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Scott Jones wrote: Use the Expressions to

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread dhbailey
Scott Jones wrote: Use the Expressions tool and create a shape using the graphics option in the shape designer and then attach it as you would any other expression: to a note attached or measure attached. I know it's possible now using your method, but the shape designer is less than wonder

Re: [Finale] Measure widths ...manually setting them versus letting Finale do it.

2006-05-05 Thread dhbailey
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Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Scott Jones
Use the Expressions tool and create a shape using the graphics option in the shape designer and then attach it as you would any other expression: to a note attached or measure attached. ___ J. Scott Jones Band/Orchestra Director/Freelanc

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Bailey reply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Éric Dussault
Le 06-05-05 à 04:25, Johannes Gebauer a écrit : That's debatable. None of the editions I see in front of me use tapered dashed slurs. Those which use dashed slurs use the same kind that Finale produces. Doblinger, Schott to name just two. That's one of the problem I don't like with technol

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Bailey reply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Éric Dussault
Tell me your trick to get a tapered dotted slur, because it's so easy to adjust the positioning of slurs to look like tie and I don't think it is what David was meaning. Or maybe it is just that a docuement full of dotted ties would be time consuming. Le 06-05-05 à 04:26, Johannes Gebauer a

Re: [Finale] Measure widths ...manually setting them versus letting Finale do it.

2006-05-05 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess you are aware of- page breaks- system breaks     Background first: remember how I whenever I unlocked my systems; the measures seem to collapse onto themselves, where the notes are all running into each other? I am still not sure why that happens.

Re: [Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Not that I really have the time, but this is something which I have been wanting to start a long time ago. There are numerous things which I think Finale could do much better if small changes were made. This is not really about feature requests for new features, just a

Re: [Finale] Tie Question

2006-05-05 Thread dhbailey
Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone - Just thought I'd update you on this. I finally called MakeMusic's tech support to ask if there's a way to do this tie thing. He said there isn't, but offered a work-around that did okay. I just put in multiple slurs on that chord and then placed them to l

Re: [Finale] Extracting Notes From Chords

2006-05-05 Thread dhbailey
Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone... Is there some way to extract, for example, the top note in every chord in a song? Or the middle note or bottom note? I have a song that is 3-part harmony, all on 1 staff, no layers. Can this be done simply, or do I have to manually erase the notes I do

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Bailey reply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 05.05.2006 David W. Fenton wrote: Have you ever tried making a slur the same shape as a tie? It's just not that easy. That depends on your preference for ties, and how you set them up. My ties do look almost like slurs, and tweaking a dashed slur to look like a tie is not difficult. Jo

Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question [lengthy Bailey reply] (cross-posted from OrchestraList)

2006-05-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 04.05.2006 Éric Dussault wrote: Le 06-05-04 à 09:19, Christopher Smith a écrit : What would be easier than entering a dashed slur? Christopher, Finale's slur is not tapered like a real slur. It's only a curved line. It simply doesn't look professional. That's debatable. None of the edit

[Finale] The Finale little improvements thread

2006-05-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Not that I really have the time, but this is something which I have been wanting to start a long time ago. There are numerous things which I think Finale could do much better if small changes were made. This is not really about feature requests for new features, just about little things that c

Re: [Finale] Triplet pickups - bug

2006-05-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 04.05.2006 Phil Daley wrote: Yes, I gave up on pickups. I just use the first measure and hide the unnecessary rests. That's not the best way to do it. See my other post. You can change the (now) 2nd measure to be 1. Even easier, you can exclude measures from numbering (new in 2k6, I b

Re: [Finale] Tie Question

2006-05-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 05.05.2006 Jacki Barineau wrote: Seems Finale should be able to handle something as common as this, but at least that made it look right! I totally agree, especially as it seems that function is already there, only it is limited to second endings. I never understood why this is the case.

Re: [Finale] Triplet pickups - bug

2006-05-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 04.05.2006 Stephen Lamb wrote: I created the pickup measure using the Document Setup Wizard. Has anyone else run into this? No, but I never use the pickup from the Doc Setup Wiz. In my opinion you shouldn't use that at all, as it creates numerous problems. Instead, use a special met

Re: [Finale] Distance *between* staves: how to make for a tighter fit.

2006-05-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
In addition to all the answers you have received, you really should get TGTools and try out the Layout tools, and especially the staff list manager. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list