Re: [Finale] Speedy entry

2008-08-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 02.08.2008 Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote: Anyway, in the end I just hope that Finale doesn't consider removing or crippling Speedy. It really is an excellent and easy-to-use tool. Perhaps eventually they'll just limit it to 4 notes, because publishers fed up with composers using

Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09

2008-08-02 Thread kaub001
David, Spot on. This would preserve backward compatibility and meet the objection of it being too wild for the publishers. FWIW, I do not write for a publisher. I write for a private group of people. I haven't taken a survey, but I would venture a guess that many others do not either. I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Jari Williamsson
Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote: I downloaded the demo and checked it out. But it raised a few questions/issues which maybe arose during Finale 2008, I'm not sure. - Does everyone else have the Garamond font for the items in the Setup Wizard? (Yuk! Great printing font, horrible screen

Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Rob Deemer wrote: I agree with the other postings - Kinko's is a ripoff and they'll probably bind it wrong in any case. My guess is those scores are going to be pretty thick (as each page would only have 4-6 measures), so they'd have to punch 'em in several passes which only increases the

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2009 Mac Firewire/Intel issue?

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Kettelhut, Matt wrote: Bob et al. - I want to apologize for the miscommunication in our support representative's response to your concern about the left-channel-only FireWire audio interface issue. I'd like to make it clear that MakeMusic is actively pursuing a fix for the FireWire audio

Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: --- On Fri, 8/1/08, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate that link -- however I still see no reason that a publisher has been crippled by the different numbers of staff lists submission may have. Scott addressed this. In essence, having the more solid

Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Allen Fisher wrote: So I guess these guys don't count: http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6m=230216 First couple of guys seem to like it just fine. Actually, only Wiggy seems happy with it, the others seem more like they're okay with it but haven't really gotten into it. The

Re: [Finale] I've made up my mind

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Don't count on it -- they obviously have put a lot of thought into this and have put a lot of programming time into developing that aspect of this upgrade. I don't think they're likely to change anything unless or until the large client publishers who apparently demanded this change their

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Williams, Jim wrote: Hi, Craig... Jim Williams here, the euphonium player... Garritan Jazz sounds require a fair amount of score-marking. There is a lot of expressivity, hence the need for a lot of controller action. You **ARE** using human playback, aren't you? That makes the task

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Jari Williamsson wrote: Agreed, although I don't understand why everyone seems to focus on staff lists. I have actually vowed to stop talking about staff lists. I unsubscribed from the relevant thread over on the forum. But the why is this. I cannot remember any feature in the prior 20

Re: [Finale] Speedy entry

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: [snip] fluent in data entry in Sibelius, but he is copying existing manuscripts, so the thought process order doesn't matter. He can enter the duration first with no hitch in his thinking. For me, as a composer/arranger, that doesn't work, so I don't get the conventional

Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question

2008-08-02 Thread Rob Deemer
From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's entirely possible that the chains--especially Kinko's--would refuse to handle it because it is copyrighted music. You did realize that it is copyrighted, right? And that your copying it without permission is an infringement? Yes, but neither

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Craig Parmerlee wrote: I haven't figured out how to turn down the reverb with F2009. Is it a setting in the Aria player? It sounds as if my expectations were too high with the Garritan sounds. Having listened to the orchestra samples, the Finale website implied strongly that you enter the

Re: [Finale] Speedy entry

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 5:43 PM -0700 8/1/08, Chuck Israels wrote: BUT, time value selection precedes pitch (and that's the only way it can work in Sibelius), and that is a deal breaker for me. When Finale catches up (as it seems to have done pretty well in Simple Entry) AND provides the same

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Barbara Touburg
Robert Patterson wrote: Finally, it almost surely *is* an artificial limit. I am virtually certainly I could write a plugin that allowed you to maintain, associate, and name as many staff lists as you like. (I never would write this plugin because those files would not be supported by MM or

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Craig Parmerlee
dhbailey wrote: But dumping the midi file into Sonar won't help a person who is using the Garritan sounds which come with Finale -- he didn't say he had purchased the JABB set from Garritan. He has simply made use of the newly included samples from JABB which were incorporated in the

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Barbara Touburg wrote: Then I respectfully and urgently ask you do so, Robert! I can't imagine working WITTHOUT the staff lists! They are like style sheets to me! Ha, ha. This is one of those cases of be careful what you ask for, because I am half tempted to try. Even though it would

[Finale] Tamtam (in percussion)?

2008-08-02 Thread Hans Swinnen
Dear all, I have to finish a score in MacFin2k5b. On some places is asked for a Tamtam. Alas, I can't find a playback issue (not in GM for sure). Is my brain getting older, or am I missing something obvious? Can/will somebody show me the right way? TIA Hans

Re: [Finale] Speedy entry

2008-08-02 Thread Daniel Wolf
Perhaps eventually they'll just limit it to 4 notes, because publishers fed up with composers using all these many notes in their compositions. I am sure you can see the benefits in the long term. Music with four notes is just so much easier to learn. Johannes Well, in worked so well for

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Barbara Touburg
Robert Patterson wrote: Ha, ha. This is one of those cases of be careful what you ask for, because I am half tempted to try. Even though it would probably work, any file you saved could not be supported by me and would not be supported by MM. And because Finale's UI is expecting to find

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Barbara Touburg wrote: Why couldn't you support those files? Because I could not guarantee that MM would upgrade them correctly in Fin10 (assuming there will be one), or that MM would not deliberately prevent a plugin from doing what I have in mind. They could do either. Nor could I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Barbara Touburg
Robert Patterson wrote: Barbara Touburg wrote: Why couldn't you support those files? Because I could not guarantee that MM would upgrade them correctly in Fin10 (assuming there will be one), or that MM would not deliberately prevent a plugin from doing what I have in mind. They could do

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
I would urge you to put together an even more specific set of requirements for how you use staff lists and post it to the Finale support forum. They need to hear from impacted users. I find particularly compelling your continuo example with the hidden playback staves. Drag-apply simply does

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Chuck Israels
I had no trouble using the full JABB sounds. You need to use the Kontakt Player 2 to get them loaded into the file, and that interface is nowhere near as clear and elegant as the new Aria Player that comes with Finale, but it works decently. I'm not sure of this, but the impression I

[Finale] Why I use FINALE

2008-08-02 Thread Howey, Henry
Please follow this URL to an MP3 of The United States Marine Band playing my edition of Amilcare's Variations on Carneval of Venice. The original instrumentation was appropriate for 1860s Cremona, but I had to bring it forward to the type of band that was established by Sousa.

Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09

2008-08-02 Thread John Howell
At 8:54 AM -0400 8/2/08, dhbailey wrote: But why is this issue being raised now, when these same major publishers have been using Finale for many years? Why wasn't the staff-list limit lowered to 4 many years ago? That's the part that baffles me -- did these publishers simply wake up and

Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09

2008-08-02 Thread Eric Dannewitz
But does it really matter? Why force the program to just have 4 because a publisher says so? Is make music going to start enforcing fonts as well? Are we all going to be stuck using Jazz font or something next? John Howell wrote: Ummm, did I miss something in all these identically-named posts,

Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:32 PM, John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO PUBLISHER HAS ACTUALLY SAID THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR THEM?!!! I thought someone just brought the possibility up out of thin air as an apologia for MakeMusic's ...snip... I've yet to heard any publishers say this for

Re: [Finale] Jazz Notation Standards...what's correct?

2008-08-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 31, 2008, at 11:56 AM, John Howell wrote: There were two VERY successful bands in the early '60s that pushed the limits of jazz/pop/rock'n'roll/classical styles and started a fusion movement that continued for at least 15 years (and may still be happening). ... The two bands I'm

Re: [Finale] Why I use FINALE

2008-08-02 Thread Bob Morabito
Hi, Prof. Howey-- --I tried twice--got this both times--Bob Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.marineband.usmc.mil. * Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com * If you are unable to load any pages,

Re: [Finale] Why I use FINALE

2008-08-02 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Works fine for me... Bob Morabito wrote: Hi, Prof. Howey-- --I tried twice--got this both times--Bob Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.marineband.usmc.mil. * Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of

Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question

2008-08-02 Thread Blake Richardson
From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:49:10 -0400 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question Are we really talking about donation here, or plain and simple deposit with LC as part of the copyright process? And are the

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread John Howell
At 8:26 AM -0500 8/2/08, Robert Patterson wrote: Jari Williamsson wrote: Agreed, although I don't understand why everyone seems to focus on staff lists. I have actually vowed to stop talking about staff lists. I unsubscribed from the relevant thread over on the forum. But the why is

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Jari Williamsson
Robert Patterson wrote: Jari Williamsson wrote: Agreed, although I don't understand why everyone seems to focus on staff lists. I have actually vowed to stop talking about staff lists. I unsubscribed from the relevant thread over on the forum. But the why is this. I cannot remember any

Re: [Finale] (OT) Ancient History (was Jazz Notation Standards)

2008-08-02 Thread John Howell
At 2:30 PM -0400 8/2/08, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 11:56 AM, John Howell wrote: There were two VERY successful bands in the early '60s that pushed the limits of jazz/pop/rock'n'roll/classical styles and started a fusion movement that continued for at least 15 years (and may

Re: [Finale] (OT) Copyright (was Score Binding Question)

2008-08-02 Thread John Howell
At 5:25 PM -0400 8/2/08, Blake Richardson wrote: From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:49:10 -0400 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question Are we really talking about donation here, or plain and simple deposit with LC

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Craig Parmerlee
A little follow-up question for Chuck or anybody else who knows the answer. If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? In other words the next time I open that score, it will have the same instruments I assigned

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 2 Aug 2008, at 8:41 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? Yes. In other words the next time I open that score, it will have the same instruments I assigned through Kontact?

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Chuck Israels
On Aug 2, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: A little follow-up question for Chuck or anybody else who knows the answer. If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? In other words the next time I open

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Er um, my noisy posts both on this list and on the public forums included direct quotes of MM folks that I believed said it (by circumlocution of course). I'll let you check your own deleted folder. I'm too tired of the subject to check mine. ;-) RP John Howell wrote: Has MakeMusic actually

[Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Pricing

2008-08-02 Thread Craig Parmerlee
COOL!!! Thanks OK. One more nit-picky question. I am confused about the pricing. This page says it is $249. http://www.garritan.com/jazz.html This page says it is $199. https://www.garritan.com/order.php Anybody know what's up with that? I don't suppose they offer an upgrade price for

[Finale] MiBAC rhy generator: More styles?

2008-08-02 Thread Craig Parmerlee
In the plug-ins menu, there is a plug-in for MiBAC Rhythm Section Generator. This could be very useful for maying down a quick bed, even if it isn't the sort of track you would want in the final version. But there are only 4 styles presently. I'm working on a chart that needs a funky groove