Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread John Howell
At 7:56 PM + 1/17/09, Lawrence Yates wrote: Apologies to all and thanks on behalf of my idiot, cloth eared student. Having spoken to her teacher, it now seems that the child (aged 18 years!!!) incorrectly identified the chord as a "DOMINANT 7th" then didn't listen to what her teacher said in

Re: [Finale] TAN: Printer Problem

2009-01-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 18, 2009, at 11:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Everyone hates the accordion. ;) (actually, I *love* the accordion) I understand, and do not judge, but simply cite this, found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accordion (click on 4. Accordion jokes) The 1954 Edition of Grove's Dictio

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 18, 2009, at 1:11 PM, John Howell wrote: At 12:16 AM -0500 1/18/09, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Adam Golding wrote: Yeah the 'popular' chord notation (anyone know where this came from originally?) Strangely, it came from an adaptation of classical figured b

Re: [Finale] TAN: Printer Problem

2009-01-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Jan 2009 at 22:42, Allen Fisher wrote: > Up until now I've liked mine too. But the sucker is actually turning > paper into accordion sheets. > > My clients are starting to complain ;-) Everyone hates the accordion. ;) (actually, I *love* the accordion) -- David W. Fenton

Re: [Finale] TAN: Printer Problem

2009-01-18 Thread Allen Fisher
Thanks David. I did notice the rollers were getting dirty. I did jam it when I was having driver problems. Can't justify replacing this with a less expensive printer. It prints wide format and cost me about $600. On Jan 18, 2009, at 6:36 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Jan 2009 at 18:04,

Re: [Finale] TAN: Printer Problem

2009-01-18 Thread Allen Fisher
Up until now I've liked mine too. But the sucker is actually turning paper into accordion sheets. My clients are starting to complain ;-) On Jan 18, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Ray Horton wrote: I love my AP2610 (not everyone on the list with one does). But it does jam sometimes, usually when the pa

Re: [Finale] strange error message

2009-01-18 Thread Allen Fisher
Before you toss the file, send it off to support. We like to get our hands on these files and figure out what happened. On Jan 18, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I wrote: I keep getting this message [The font'" is not available in this piece.] on a file when I try and copy a measu

Re: [Finale] TAN: Printer Problem

2009-01-18 Thread Ray Horton
I love my AP2610 (not everyone on the list with one does). But it does jam sometimes, usually when the paper supply gets small. Whenever it thinks it is jammed but is not (such as when it tries to pick up paper from a low stack and fails) just find the small door on the top, (near the back) a

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 18, 2009, at 9:17 PM, John Howell wrote: At 2:50 PM -0500 1/18/09, David W. Fenton wrote: Were the chord symbols printed in the publications of Richard Rodgers' music "his" symbols, or those of an arranger? Frankly, I strongly doubt that we should attribute them to Rodgers himself. A

Re: [Finale] copying tuplets

2009-01-18 Thread GERALD BERG
I'm ancient FinMac 2005 but it has been my experience that tuplets only copy properly with 'partial measure' selection turned off.  IOW full measure copy only. Gerald Berg From: Christopher Smith To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:54:56 PM

Re: [Finale] strange error message

2009-01-18 Thread Randolph Peters
I wrote: I keep getting this message [The font'" is not available in this piece.] on a file when I try and copy a measure into another one. The message shows up twice in a row and doesn't go away even when I do select a font. David Fenton replied: I don't have a recent version of Finale, b

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread John Howell
At 2:50 PM -0500 1/18/09, David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Jan 2009 at 13:11, John Howell wrote: One danger in the early days was that the chord symbols too often represented the right-hand chord (for the pianist), but did NOT indicate function or bass note. That was still true as late as the

Re: [Finale] TAN: Printer Problem

2009-01-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David W. Fenton wrote: But there are also things that can't be remedied without a service call from a tech, which is usually going to run a minimum of $150. With new laser printers costing $200, it's hard to justify that. Except that the laser printer giving the problem, a Ricoh AP2610, is

Re: [Finale] copying tuplets

2009-01-18 Thread Christopher Smith
Sorry, but could you translate the note values into North American terms? I never learned the English system, so I can't follow your question. Christopher On Jan 18, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Stan Lord wrote: MacFin 2009b Drum set part: Copying crotchets on beats 1 and 3 with a semiquaver grac

Re: [Finale] TAN: Printer Problem

2009-01-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Jan 2009 at 18:04, Allen Fisher wrote: > My laser printer ( a Rico AP2610) pretty much jams every time I try to > use it. The causes of this kind of thing that can be remedied: 1. dirty rollers -- open it up and use a cotton swab and rubbing alcohol to clean them thoroughly. 2. cheap p

Re: [Finale] Corni in E

2009-01-18 Thread Allen Fisher
Just read it as a regular horn part, in alto clef ;-P -- I was taught to use clefs to transpose on the fly... Yep this is right. (I just looked it up...) I hate odd transpositions. On Jan 18, 2009, at 12:41 PM, John Howell wrote: At 6:59 PM +0100 1/18/09, Barbara Touburg wrote: I'm working o

Re: [Finale] strange error message

2009-01-18 Thread Allen Fisher
In Fin2k9b, go to Document-->Data Check-->File Maintenance. Do the full treatment. Then, run Document-->Data Check-->Font Utilites. Check "Check Document Fonts Against System Fonts" and click OK. Fix any remaining font things that come up. For those with 2k9 initial release or earlier, we

[Finale] TAN: Printer Problem

2009-01-18 Thread Allen Fisher
Hi List-- My laser printer ( a Rico AP2610) pretty much jams every time I try to use it. I've had the printer for a few years, and it's still got plenty of toner, so I haven't done a "Maintenance Kit" deal on it. I'm guessing I'm not worshiping the laser printer gods correctly, or else th

Re: [Finale] Vertical Collision Remover plug-in

2009-01-18 Thread noel jones
Actually, I don't have a clue. This is such a powerful, yet frustrating program. I just noticed that in my situation removing Optimization seemed to help. Does anyone have a flow chart that shows how this all works? noel On Jan 18, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote: noel jones wro

Re: [Finale] Vertical Collision Remover plug-in

2009-01-18 Thread Barbara Touburg
noel jones wrote: I have, since it was introduced to me by this list, had really good luck using this plugin... I type in verses of lyrics then: 1. Select PAGE LAYOUT 2. Select OPTIMIZE PAGE SYSTEMS 3. REMOVE Page System Optimization This gets rid of any adjustments I may have made manually.

Re: [Finale] strange error message

2009-01-18 Thread Matthew Hindson (gmail)
I got this yesterday for the first time in fact. And it was found when copying within a piece, not even between different documents. Matthew Randolph Peters wrote: Has anyone come across this confusing error message? * The font'" is not available in this piece

Re: [Finale] Vertical Collision Remover plug-in

2009-01-18 Thread noel jones
I have, since it was introduced to me by this list, had really good luck using this plugin... I type in verses of lyrics then: 1. Select PAGE LAYOUT 2. Select OPTIMIZE PAGE SYSTEMS 3. REMOVE Page System Optimization This gets rid of any adjustments I may have made manually. Then I choose Ver

Re: [Finale] strange error message

2009-01-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Jan 2009 at 15:30, Randolph Peters wrote: > I keep getting this message on a file when I try and copy a measure > into another one. The message shows up twice in a row and doesn't go > away even when I do select a font. I don't have a recent version of Finale, but if I encountered this

[Finale] strange error message

2009-01-18 Thread Randolph Peters
Has anyone come across this confusing error message? * The font'" is not available in this piece. Select another font or... Add "" to Finale's font list? [Cancel] [Add] [Select] buttons I keep getting this message on a file when

Re: [Finale] Beaming Across Grace Notes

2009-01-18 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jan 18, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blake Richardson wrote: In Speedy, you have to hit the / key on the second grace note AND then on the second eighth note. Worked like a charm. Thanks much. It was driving me crazy. And me too - for years! Nice to get another clue into the mystery of Finale.

RE: [Finale] Vertical Collision Remover plug-in

2009-01-18 Thread James Gilbert
When using the default settings, I find it to be excellent for adjusting the spacing of the staves relative to the lyrics in single page hymns (similar to a grand staff). But, it does has it shortcomings in more typical music, like multiple page piano or vocal/piano pieces. Unless you happen to be

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread Chuck Israels
Probably a publisher's interpretation of Rodgers' piano/vocal versions. Rodgers was a fine melodist, but there are many re- harmonizations (some quite substantial) of his songs that are stronger, by far, than his versions. Some Tin Pan Alley composers wrote solid basic harmony and good bas

[Finale] Off-topic: Chicago piano teacher.

2009-01-18 Thread Dana Friedman @ Dragonfly Technologies
Forgive me folks..but...this might be as good a place as any to ask. Might any one of you be piano teachers in the Chicago area? Or..might any of you know someone wonderful who works with kids (in the Chicago area)? Please e-mail me offlist. Thanks, Dana __

Re: [Finale] Beaming Across Grace Notes

2009-01-18 Thread Blake Richardson
> In Speedy, you have to hit the / key on the second grace note AND > then on the second eighth note. Worked like a charm. Thanks much. It was driving me crazy. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Jan 2009 at 13:11, John Howell wrote: > One danger in the early days was that the chord symbols too often > represented the right-hand chord (for the pianist), but did NOT > indicate function or bass note. That was still true as late as the > sheet music of Richard Rodgers, and you can't

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jan 18, 2009, at 10:11 AM, John Howell wrote: One danger in the early days was that the chord symbols too often represented the right-hand chord (for the pianist), but did NOT indicate function or bass note. That was still true as late as the sheet music of Richard Rodgers, and you ca

Re: [Finale] Corni in E

2009-01-18 Thread Barbara Touburg
John Howell wrote: At 6:59 PM +0100 1/18/09, Barbara Touburg wrote: I'm working on some movements of Mendelssohn's Midsummernightsdream. He uses Corni in E. I assume these are French horns (normally in F). I've trouble setting up the transposition correctly. Currently I have the interval as -4

Re: [Finale] Corni in E

2009-01-18 Thread Barbara Touburg
Robert Patterson wrote: Interval: 5 Key Alter: -4 If the key is other than 4 sharps, you may want to set Ind. Key Sig on this staff and set that staff only to E Major. (But my recollection is that it's in E Major to begin with.) Thanks a bunch Robert, it sounds a lot better now. And yes, it is

Re: [Finale] Corni in E

2009-01-18 Thread John Howell
At 6:59 PM +0100 1/18/09, Barbara Touburg wrote: I'm working on some movements of Mendelssohn's Midsummernightsdream. He uses Corni in E. I assume these are French horns (normally in F). I've trouble setting up the transposition correctly. Currently I have the interval as -4 and the key alter a

Re: [Finale] Corni in E

2009-01-18 Thread Robert Patterson
Interval: 5 Key Alter: -4 If the key is other than 4 sharps, you may want to set Ind. Key Sig on this staff and set that staff only to E Major. (But my recollection is that it's in E Major to begin with.) On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: > I'm working on some movements of

[Finale] Corni in E

2009-01-18 Thread Barbara Touburg
I'm working on some movements of Mendelssohn's Midsummernightsdream. He uses Corni in E. I assume these are French horns (normally in F). I've trouble setting up the transposition correctly. Currently I have the interval as -4 and the key alter as +4, but it must be wrong, because it sounds hor

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread John Howell
At 12:16 AM -0500 1/18/09, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Adam Golding wrote: Yeah the 'popular' chord notation (anyone know where this came from originally?) Strangely, it came from an adaptation of classical figured bass. This is why the exception to the "all chord

[Finale] copying tuplets

2009-01-18 Thread Stan Lord
MacFin 2009b Drum set part: Copying crotchets on beats 1 and 3 with a semiquaver gracenote triplet before 3rd beat. The 3rd beat crotchet is coming out as a dotted quaver tied to a semiquaver. Tried Robert's Mass Copy and got the same result. We've had this problem for a long time it seem

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread Carl Dershem
Ray Horton wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Adam Golding wrote: Incidentally, if you want an F#m triad with a D added, you would call it F#m(b6) in the most standard system. This is the second chord in the James Bond main theme, in case anyone thinks it is too far

RE: [Finale] TGTools

2009-01-18 Thread Richard Yates
>Richard Yates wrote: >> NumLock on? >> > >Yes, always. Then my half-vast expertise is exhausted. Maybe others have some ideas. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread Ray Horton
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Adam Golding wrote: Yeah the 'popular' chord notation (anyone know where this came from originally?) Strangely, it came from an adaptation of classical figured bass. This is why the exception to the "all chord members are major unless

Re: [Finale] Vertical Collision Remover plug-in

2009-01-18 Thread Florence + Michael
The vertical collision remover is a mess. I was very excited about it when it was announced in the beta testing round for 2007 and spent a lot of time testing it and figuring out how the options are meant to work. It was soon clear that even the people at MakeMusic weren't clear about how a

[Finale] Vertical Collision Remover plug-in

2009-01-18 Thread Barbara Touburg
Can someone explain how this plug-in works? It doesn't seem to do anything over here. Thanks, Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] exchanging parts

2009-01-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 18, 2009, at 8:52 AM, dc wrote: Is there any easy way (a plug-in?) to exchange two parts in a section of a score (say I soprano 1 and soprano 2) (other than adding a dummy staff, copying, deleting, etc.). Just the usual copy paste, but you don't need a dummy staff. Select the por

Re: [Finale] TGTools

2009-01-18 Thread Barbara Touburg
Richard Yates wrote: NumLock on? Yes, always. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: If you write the chord symbol F#mi6, then the correct voicing in all cases is F# A C# D#. There is nothing complicated or ambiguous about it. Thanks -- I had forgotten that chord nomenclature is independent of key signature. That's one of the great things about thi

Re: [Finale] OT: Chord identification

2009-01-18 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: [snip] The thing I have to remind all my jazz theory students is that jazz/popular chord symbols have nothing to do with the key. They are completely independent.[snip] Thank you for that very clear statement, which if anybody ever told me, I have forgotten. It's go

Re: [Finale] Beaming Across Grace Notes

2009-01-18 Thread Florence + Michael
I think it's always been like this. I checked in Finale 2004b: it is also necessary to use the slash key on both the grace note and the eighth note. I think there is also a difference depending on if you create the grace notes as you go along, or if you first write everything as normal note