>On 13 Feb 2009 at 23:27, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>
>> Also -- and I admit this isn't particularly relevant here --
>comparing
>> file sizes isn't really an adequate way of comparing the
>files. You're
>> saying that because one file is only a few bytes bigger or smaller,
>> there can't be much
On 13 Feb 2009 at 23:27, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> Also -- and I admit this isn't particularly relevant here -- comparing
> file sizes isn't really an adequate way of comparing the files. You're
> saying that because one file is only a few bytes bigger or smaller,
> there can't be much difference
On 2/13/2009 8:29 PM, Richard Yates wrote:
I have heard the first theory and decided to test it. I opened a high
resolution photo in Photoshop and saved it with the maximum compression as a
jpg. Then reopened it and saved again with maximum compression. After
repeating this seven times I can see
On 2/13/2009 9:12 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
It doesn't actually need to. Once the file is open, it's an
uncompressed bitmap, with 100% of the information that the original
file contains. As long as the save uses the same compression ratio,
the result should be, for all intents and purposes, iden
Katherine,
It would be helpful to know what version of Finale, and what platform
(Windows or MAC) you are using.
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>> (It's the same with images. If someone sends you a JPG that you plan
>> to edit repeatedly, you should first open it and save it as
>a TIF, and
>> then make all your edits to the TIF. When you're done
>editing, you can
>> export the TIF as a JPG for portability, keeping your source TIF fo
On 13 Feb 2009 at 20:36, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> On 2/13/2009 8:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> > They don't display the information, but PSP, at least (which is what
> > I use for all my graphics editing -- I can't stand the GIMP), does
> > not continue to compress the file beyond its current comp
Open the file in Scroll View and make sure that there is minimal space above
the first staff. Select and drag all staves upwards in Staff Tool if you
need to. With Page Layout, edit the system margins to remove extra space
between staves.
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On 2/13/2009 8:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
They don't display the information, but PSP, at least (which is what
I use for all my graphics editing -- I can't stand the GIMP), does
not continue to compress the file beyond its current compression
ration.
Except that I don't think PSP has any way
Useful for making ringtones, I suppose!
I have had a lot of good luck on the Mac with Sound
Studioespecially with its liberal demo mode.
noel jones
On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
iTunes lets you make volume adjustments and change the start and
stop time. File ->
On 13 Feb 2009 at 19:37, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> I'm going to preface all of this by saying that I'm always happy to be
> proved wrong in things like this.
>
> On 2/13/2009 7:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> > The usual method is to have, say, a 15% compression ratio. When you
> > open a file, you
On 2/13/2009 7:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
I don't think this is correct, Aaron. When you edit the MP3, you
aren't editing the original data, but a waveform that is result of
expanding the data from the MP3 file. If you save that waveform to
exactly the same bitrate as the original source MP3,
I'm going to preface all of this by saying that I'm always happy to be
proved wrong in things like this.
On 2/13/2009 7:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
The usual method is to have, say, a 15% compression ratio. When you
open a file, your graphics editing progam knows what the compression
ratio th
On 13 Feb 2009 at 18:05, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> Keeping in mind that every
> save to MP3 format degrades quality, what you want to avoid is open the
> MP3, make an edit, save back to MP3. Open the new MP3 a week later, make
> some more edits, save back to MP3. Repeat again the next day. You've
On 13 Feb 2009 at 17:25, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> Here's what I understood you to be suggesting:
>
> 1) Open the MP3 in Audacity and up-sample it to WAV. Save the WAV
> version.
If by "upsample to WAV" you mean the same process that happens when
the MP3 is played, then, sure.
> 2) Make the
Dean, my 2c, esp. since you are on Mac:
Amadeus Pro is excellent. It costs some money, but unlike Audacity (in my
experience) it's extremely stable and does a great job.
I recommend it.
Matthew
2009/2/14 David W. Fenton
> On 13 Feb 2009 at 16:02, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>
> > if
> > you have a
On 13 Feb 2009 at 16:07, dhbailey wrote:
> Of course the player you saw may have been playing a "pocket
> trumpet" which is simply a regular Bb trumpet, predominently
> cylindrical bore and all, full length but just wrapped
> around more so it's short enough to fit into a pocket. Not
> that p
On 13 Feb 2009 at 16:02, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> if
> you have a JPG as a source, you open it and save it as a TIF or
> something else non-lossy so it won't get any worse while you work on it.
> If you edit the JPG and save back as a JPG, it gets worse each time,
> because you're re-applying th
I generally print on legal paper, in order to eventually have pieces
done on 9 x 12 paper at the printer. This means I have to work with
systems rather freely at times. At the moment I'm doing a piece for
two pianos, and need to get 3 systems on a page (3 groups of 4
staves.) I cannot
iTunes allows you to convert among a few formats, but that's it AFAIK.
--AF
On Feb 13, 2009, at 5:19 PM, "Dean M. Estabrook"
wrote:
I haven't seen any capabilities in iTunes for editing. Perhaps I
just don't know where to find them.
Dean
On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:48 PM, noel jones wrote:
I'm not familiar with the internals of the mp3 format, so I can't say for
sure. But considering that none of the edits mentioned operate in the
frequency domain (such as filters and most other types of audio processing),
I can see how it might be possible without conversion/reconversion. But
don'
iTunes lets you make volume adjustments and change the start and stop
time. File -> Info -> Options. But these don't get written into the
file itself, I don't think.
- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY
On 13 Feb 2009, at 6:19 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I haven't seen any cap
On 2/13/2009 6:15 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
These are, in fact, the only kinds of edits Fission allows (cut&
paste, normalization and fades),
Ah, interesting. Lee, can you comment on this? Is it true that these
kinds of edits can be made to an MP3 without needing to recode afterwards?
(It
I haven't seen any capabilities in iTunes for editing. Perhaps I
just don't know where to find them.
Dean
On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:48 PM, noel jones wrote:
As I recall, even iTunes, for either platform, will permit editing
and it's free
noel jones
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Hi Aaron,
Looking around a bit more on the web, I do think we need to
distinguish different kinds of editing. It appears that certain
kinds of edits can be made to MP3s without needing to recode, namely
splitting up an MP3 into pieces and applying gain. (See http://sherber.com/url/3c
, fo
On 13 Feb 2009, at 6:05 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Yes -- unless you plan to do more editing. Keeping in mind that
every save to MP3 format degrades quality, what you want to avoid is
open the MP3, make an edit, save back to MP3. Open the new MP3 a
week later, make some more edits, save back
On 2/13/2009 5:25 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Instead, my first suggestion would be to use an editing application
that operates on the original MP3 file and does not require you to re-
encode -- which, as far as I know, is what is happening with the app I
use (Fission).
I don't believe that is
Hi Lee,
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for setting me straight.
Cheers,
- Darcy
-
djar...@earthlink.net
Brooklyn, NY
On 13 Feb 2009, at 4:55 PM, Lee Actor wrote:
Darcy, you are mistaken. You cannot edit an mp3 in native mode as
it is an
encoded format. It may look to you as if you are
Hi Aaron,
Here's what I understood you to be suggesting:
1) Open the MP3 in Audacity and up-sample it to WAV. Save the WAV
version.
2) Make the edits in Audacity on the WAV version, then and re-encode
for MP3.
Instead, my first suggestion would be to use an editing application
that ope
Darcy, you are mistaken. You cannot edit an mp3 in native mode as it is an
encoded format. It may look to you as if you are directly editing the mp3
when you open it, but any audio editor must of course convert the file to an
audio waveform before it can be edited (whether WAV, AIFF, or a native
On 2/13/2009 4:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 13 Feb 2009, at 4:02 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Hmm. I was unaware that there were mainstream apps that could edit
MP3s natively.
There certainly are. You can open an MP3 in QuickTime Player and edit
it directly there without converting to som
As I recall, even iTunes, for either platform, will permit editing and
it's free
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On 13 Feb 2009, at 4:02 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Hmm. I was unaware that there were mainstream apps that could edit
MP3s natively.
There certainly are. You can open an MP3 in QuickTime Player and edit
it directly there without converting to some other format. And Fission
(the app I use to
David W. Fenton wrote:
[snip]
He actually had another trumpet, and the trumpet he played with the
flugel horn did not look like a normal Bb trumpet (while the other
one did) -- it looked like it had shorter tubing (the tubing was bent
more like a cornet, thought it was clearly not a cornet at
On 2/13/2009 2:39 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
When you convert an MP3 to WAV, you're taking the wave form that you
get when you expand it from the MP3 and fixing it in a final wave
form. There should be absolutely no artifacts from converting form
MP3 to WAV. Indeed, the waveform of the WAV file s
On 2/13/2009 1:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
With respect, Aaron, this won't help. Converting the MP3 to WAV and
back again will introduce far more artifacts than any edits you might
make in Audacity,
I could be mistaken, but my impression is that when you open an MP3 in
an editing program l
Dear list members,
Please visit and contact me offlist about a "test" website I have prepared for
an NEH "editions" grant proposal. FINALE is a big part of it, ofcourse;-)
Here's the URL: http://www.shsu.edu/~org_neh/
Only two pieces are loaded for the demo:
1. http://www.shsu.edu/~org_neh/Pia
On 13 Feb 2009 at 13:19, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> With respect, Aaron, this won't help. Converting the MP3 to WAV and
> back again will introduce far more artifacts than any edits you might
> make in Audacity, and won't actually result in any benefit. Once a
> file is in a lossy format (li
On 13 Feb 2009 at 12:15, Aaron Sherber wrote:
> However, keep in mind that MP3s are like JPG images -- they use lossy
> compression, meaning every time you edit and save, you introduce some
> artifacts (which may or may not be audible/visible). This is why it's
> always better to record and edi
On 13 Feb 2009, at 12:15 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
What you might want to do is open this MP3 in Audacity and save it
as a WAV. Then you can edit, save, edit, save, etc. as much as you
like with the WAV without further degradation of the original MP3.
And then again, only convert your fin
Got it! Both problems solved by turning off the fill in the measure
option.
Thank you all!
Katherine Hoover
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Good info ... thanks.
Dean
On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
On 2/13/2009 11:57 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I just made a recording of a choir rehearsal last night with my H2
digital. I recorded in the MP3 mode. It is possible to edit said
files (other than just splitting a
Got it! Both problems solved by turning off the fill in the measure
option.
Thank you all!
Katherine Hoover
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On 2/13/2009 11:57 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I just made a recording of a choir rehearsal last night with my H2
digital. I recorded in the MP3 mode. It is possible to edit said
files (other than just splitting a file on the H2) once they are
uploaded to my Mac?
I believe that most audio edi
I just made a recording of a choir rehearsal last night with my H2
digital. I recorded in the MP3 mode. It is possible to edit said
files (other than just splitting a file on the H2) once they are
uploaded to my Mac? It's a G5, running 10.4.1 BTW, the H2 seems to
be doing a pretty fair j
Lawrence David Eden wrote:
Greetings,
I am planning on changing computers soon and I want to re-install my
Finale (Mac) on the new system. I doubt that I have any "installs"
left on Finale and when I try to register, I will be advised that I
can't register.
How do I remove an old registra
Lawrence David Eden wrote:
Greetings,
I am planning on changing computers soon and I want to re-install my
Finale (Mac) on the new system. I doubt that I have any "installs"
left on Finale and when I try to register, I will be advised that I
can't register.
How do I remove an old registra
Greetings,
I am planning on changing computers soon and I want to re-install my
Finale (Mac) on the new system. I doubt that I have any "installs"
left on Finale and when I try to register, I will be advised that I
can't register.
How do I remove an old registration so that I can install a
1. In the Speedy menu, remove the check mark by "Insert notes or rests".
2. In Speedy Options (under Speedy menu), remove the check mark by
"Fill with Rests at End of Measure"
Michael.
On 13 Feb 2009, at 01:31, Katherine Hoover wrote:
Dear Finalelist,
I still need answers to the f
Problem 1. At risk of insulting you by stating the obvious - make sure you
don't have the caps lock on.
Cheers,
Lawrence
Lawrenceyates.co.uk
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