On 15 Feb 2012, at 9:41 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> But as far as I can tell, every instance of "Mellophone" will have the same
> tweaked settings, so the more tweaks you need the more instruments you have
> to consume.
Sure, but there are lots of canned instruments to tweak. And the fact that
I'm sorry but I don't have the time to bring up specific examples of the many
file I did last year but when I get a moment I will send them to you privately.
It has a lot to do with bracketing and groups names but mainly bracketing.
Basically it gets down to, the old system and optimized systems
But as far as I can tell, every instance of "Mellophone" will have the same
tweaked settings, so the more tweaks you need the more instruments you have
to consume.
My understanding is Ryan wants to have some sections of his piece based on
key signature transpositions and some chromatic. I know I
Robert and Ryan,
The choice of instrument in the score manager only informs what playback
instrument is selected by default. You can modify the playback instrument in
the Score Manager, so you could easily choose "Mellophone" and then tweak the
playback and transposition settings to get whateve
Hi Ryan,
You can change whether or not an instrument uses chromatic transposition in the
Score Manager. Just select "Other... " from the drop-down Transposition menu.
Using the canned "Horn in Eb" and tweaking the transposition settings will give
you exactly what you want.
Cheers,
- DJA
Well, you could designate an instrument you aren't using, e.g., Mellophone
to be Horn in E and use it in the score wherever you want Horn in E. But
then all your horn section would sound like Mellophones in those passages.
I hadn't about it but you're right. The choice of Chromatic or
non-chromati
Oh, and they only have one canned version of a Wagner Tuba? - in B alto.
Try re-writing anything by Wagner using only one kind of Wagner Tuba...
(They're missing F, and F basso, and Eb, and Bb basso...etc.)
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Robert Patterson <
rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>
Thanks. Unfortunately, I do care about playback.
While the method you suggest works for just a single line, it is completely
unusable in an orchestral score [without SIGNIFICANT workarounds].
It is quite a regression in functionality, isn't it? I guess I'll keep
running Fin2010 for a while for cert
The challenge is that there is no canned instrument "Horn in E". The whole
Fin12 approach is based on the ill-conceived assumption that a change of
transposition means a change of instrument.
If you don't care about playback, it's fairly simple. For the sections of
Horn in E, use Utilities->Change
OK, Darcy & Robert,
Maybe I've missed something in the help file, but how do I change
transpositions within a piece?
Example, I'm re-writing an orchestral horn part so I can read off of a
clean copy without years and years of pencil marks and erasures.
It's written for Horn in F for a while, then c
I heartily agree the previous way was flawed, and the more I tinker with
the new way the more I find it okay and in some ways improved. One concern
I do have, though, is setting up and applying transpositions other than
those one encounters in a wind band is quite tedious, especially compared
with
That is true. Instrument changes only apply to full measures. This a drawback.
But you may be mistaken about transposing Staff Styles. I'm pretty sure they
only applied to full measures as well.
Christopher
On Wed Feb 15, at WednesdayFeb 15 5:34 PM, Bernard Nussbaumer wrote:
> Unless I misse
You have correctly understood the manual. If you need to be able to do this, I
suggest entering the melody ONLY and copying the measure stack over.
On the other hand, you can copy ONLY stack items like time signatures (using
the filter), then copy the melody over alone in a second pass.
Christo
Or you make it in two steps:
- "Stack selection", copy only the "Measure Settings" (or at least "Time
signatures")
- select the passage, copy "Notes and Rests", "Markings", "Text" and
"Special Alterations"
Bernard
2012/2/15 Lawrence Yates
> Would somebody please tell me that I am c
On 2012-02-15 22:44, Fiskum, Steve wrote:
> That's interesting to note since this new way of
> working has forced me to create more groups than I ever had to do with
> previous versions of Finale.
Can you give an example where you need all these groups? Unless there
are lots of named groups in a
On 2012-02-15 22:05, J D Thomas wrote:
> Jari,
>
> Your site says this plugin is for Finale 2012 and later. Is this info
> correct?
Yes.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
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On Feb 16, 2012 1:29 AM, "Robert Patterson"
wrote:
> I am just a newbie to Fin12, but I am coming to really hate the Score
> Manager. I suppose if I had never learned the old way it wouldn't seem so
> bad, but I'm an old dog, and this seems like a new trick of little value.
>
> Up until now I
Unless I missed something else, I didn't find how to have an instrument
change "in the middle" of the measure; if you choose "Instrument Change",
it applies for whole measures only.
I know, if you go from saxophone to flute, you have generally more than one
measure to take the instrument. But, howe
Thanks for the info Jari. That's interesting to note since this new way of
working has forced me to create more groups than I ever had to do with
previous versions of Finale. I still think it was a bad idea to not let us
have a duplicate button within the group dbx if they were going to make this
r
On 2012-02-15 22:11, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> I agree the lack of visual feedback regarding transposition changes
> is a serious problem and needs fixing.
...and when it's fixed, the visual feedback should be modeless - not
modal as Staff Style bars are.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
Hi Robert,
I agree the lack of visual feedback regarding transposition changes is a
serious problem and needs fixing.
On the other hand, the old system of using staff styles for instrument changes
was severely broken. When clearing measures of entries (via the clear key), the
instrument staff
Jari,
Your site says this plugin is for Finale 2012 and later. Is this info correct?
J D Thomas
ThomaStudios
On Feb 15, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
> On 2012-02-15 18:16, Robert Patterson wrote:
>> Great. I don't see said plugin. Is it one of yours, or does it come with
>> Final
On 2012-02-15 18:16, Robert Patterson wrote:
> Great. I don't see said plugin. Is it one of yours, or does it come with
> Finale?
"JW Split Groups", available on the tips site. (Btw, it was not as
trivial as I first thought it was to write, since Finale now do some
hidden stuff to keep the numbe
Great. I don't see said plugin. Is it one of yours, or does it come with
Finale?
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Jari Williamsson <
jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:
> On 2012-02-15 15:03, Robert Patterson wrote:
> > Starting in Fin11, staff groups have measure ranges and no longer ap
On 2012-02-15 15:03, Robert Patterson wrote:
> Starting in Fin11, staff groups have measure ranges and no longer apply to
> systems. On the whole I think this is a terrific improvement, but as far as
> I can tell it seems the UI is still mired down in the system-oriented way
> of doing things. What
Would somebody please tell me that I am completely misunderstanding the
manual.
Is it true that I cannot copy (for example) the melody line to a later
point in the score and copy the time sig changes? Do I really have to copy
the full "stack" then delete the unwanted lines in order to achieve thi
I am just a newbie to Fin12, but I am coming to really hate the Score
Manager. I suppose if I had never learned the old way it wouldn't seem so
bad, but I'm an old dog, and this seems like a new trick of little value.
Up until now I had refrained from whining about the Score Manager because I
hadn
That's okay, I had missed it entirely myself and had to get this technique from
Tech Support. So I pass it on!
Christopher
On Wed Feb 15, at WednesdayFeb 15 8:16 AM, Bernard Nussbaumer wrote:
> Great, thanks Christopher,
>
> I did look in the Help Files, but not in the best place... I should
Starting in Fin11, staff groups have measure ranges and no longer apply to
systems. On the whole I think this is a terrific improvement, but as far as
I can tell it seems the UI is still mired down in the system-oriented way
of doing things. What I would like to be able to do is select a staff and
Great, thanks Christopher,
I did look in the Help Files, but not in the best place... I should have
read more carefully the "Score Manager" chapter; as English isn't my
primary language, I understand almost everything I read in the Help Files,
but sometimes I miss something important (while trying
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