Re: [Finale] 2014.5

2015-11-18 Thread Robert Patterson
18 Nov 2015, at 14:16, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > > > What are the file sizes on the ones in the plugin folder? Are you sure > you > > restarted Finale? I apologize for asking such basic questions, but I > > guarantee you the issue is something basic. > > &g

Re: [Finale] 2014.5

2015-11-18 Thread Robert Patterson
twice. It came down as Fin14Mac.zip. I've manually > pointed the program's preferences to the plugin folder even though it was > correct. Still not able to access. > > Steve > > > On Nov 18, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com&

[Finale] Finale 2014.5 quick first impression

2015-11-18 Thread Robert Patterson
I downloaded the official Fin14.5 for Mac, and I feel that a warning is in order. If you don't have to upgrade to El Capitan, I would hold off. There's a long-standing issue on Macs with modeless plugin dialogs that causes the main dialog to lose focus. In just cursory trials with Fin14.5 this morn

Re: [Finale] 2014.5

2015-11-18 Thread Robert Patterson
"staff sets" but no actual plugins to use. I've restarted, thrown > prefs, etc... When I look I the plugin folder all of the files are dated > Sept. 23, 2015. Mass Copy's version number is 5.01. > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > >

Re: [Finale] 2014.5

2015-11-17 Thread Robert Patterson
u] On Behalf > Of > Robert Patterson > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:53 PM > To: finale > Subject: Re: [Finale] 2014.5 > > Aaron, > > I usually use beat-attached dotted-slurs for that. You may find my Smart > Shape Editor helpful for precision editing of beat-locati

Re: [Finale] 2014.5

2015-11-17 Thread Robert Patterson
Aaron, I usually use beat-attached dotted-slurs for that. You may find my Smart Shape Editor helpful for precision editing of beat-locations with spacial offsets, since the beat-attached UI is not implements for dotted slurs. (They work, but the UI is still the pre-Fin12 UI.) And you may find my M

Re: [Finale] 2014.5

2015-11-17 Thread Robert Patterson
For Fin2014.5 you need to download the version of Patterson Plugins for Finale 2014.5. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Steve Parker wrote: > Patterson Plug-ins not showing for me. The folders show up, but empty. Are > they there for you? > > The other quirk with it is that I can’t seem to resiz

Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

2015-11-02 Thread Robert Patterson
1/2/2015 9:04 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > You absolutely can beam over a grace note, but it takes some fiddling > with > > the \ key in Speedy on both the grace note and the non-grace note. Or you > > can use my "Beam Selection" plugin that makes it easy. >

Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

2015-11-02 Thread Robert Patterson
You absolutely can beam over a grace note, but it takes some fiddling with the \ key in Speedy on both the grace note and the non-grace note. Or you can use my "Beam Selection" plugin that makes it easy. I don't understand the question about the triplets-as-dotted quarters exactly. Do you mean 3 d

Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

2015-10-07 Thread Robert Patterson
s very common in scores. It would be nice if there were an > easy way to achieve desired results. > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > You could export a graphic either out of Finale or other program

Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

2015-10-07 Thread Robert Patterson
of music on that page. > > Back to the drawing board. > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, S Jones wrote: > > > What about using custom lines like a glissando line using the word you > want > > with a blank character in place of the wavy line? > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015

Re: [Finale] Vertical Text

2015-10-07 Thread Robert Patterson
If all you need is vertically oriented text without rotation of the letters, you can use the standard frame options on a page title to do it. If you need the letters to rotate, the only solution I know is a custom shape. Perhaps you could place an invisible bar of music on your title page. Ugly, bu

Re: [Finale] Force lyrics all same size on reduced notes

2015-09-23 Thread Robert Patterson
-9-2015 16:24, Robert Patterson wrote: > > Never mind, I found it. > > Pray, do tell us what is was! > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe fr

Re: [Finale] Force lyrics all same size on reduced notes

2015-09-23 Thread Robert Patterson
Never mind, I found it. On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > I have changed the lyric font to fixed size in the doc options, but it > doesn't seem to apply retroactively. Nor does there appear to be a way to > change it. I

Re: [Finale] Force lyrics all same size on reduced notes

2015-09-23 Thread Robert Patterson
I have changed the lyric font to fixed size in the doc options, but it doesn't seem to apply retroactively. Nor does there appear to be a way to change it. Is there is something I've missed? On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: > On 23-9-2015 16:12, Robert Pa

[Finale] Force lyrics all same size on reduced notes

2015-09-23 Thread Robert Patterson
I am working on a hymn excerpt, and some of the verses have extra syllables which are denoted by reduced notes. The problem I am having is that the size of the lyrics under them reduces as well. Is there a way to have this not happen? ___ Finale mailing l

Re: [Finale] Inserting / Copying Staff styles ...

2015-09-23 Thread Robert Patterson
If Score Merge doesn't work, you could try moving the staff styles with my Mass Copy plugin after merging. On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Raimund Lintzen < raimund.lint...@t-online.de> wrote: > ... again resend while it did not come through. > > Dear listers, > > does anyone know a way to inser

Re: [Finale] Epson large format printer

2015-09-07 Thread Robert Patterson
lable using > the rear feed). > > I hope that helps clarify things -- I'll be happy to answer any further > questions if I can. > > David > > > > On 9/7/2015 9:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > David, > > > > The Epson info says that printer hand

Re: [Finale] Epson large format printer

2015-09-07 Thread Robert Patterson
David, The Epson info says that printer handles up to 13x19. Can you elaborate on the discrepancy between that claim and the sizes you mentioned. Best, Robert On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:30 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > On 9/7/2015 12:20 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > > Brother MFC-j6710DN > > That

Re: [Finale] Epson large format printer

2015-09-05 Thread Robert Patterson
Dennis, Does it print to the page edge of 13x19? I'm thinking about whether I could feed 13x20 paper with a 1-inch margin, which might work if it prints to the page edge. On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz < bath...@maltedmedia.com> wrote: > On Sat, September 5, 2015 10:22 pm,

[Finale] Printer Replacement Ideas

2015-09-03 Thread Robert Patterson
Hello, all. My old Accel-A-Writer from Xante seems to be reaching its end of life, not only because Xante has dropped support for it, and the drivers no longer work correctly in current OS X versions. Also because it has begun to act strange and every print job is a battle. There's probably some ti

Re: [Finale] Patterson and JW Plugins not Loading

2015-09-02 Thread Robert Patterson
I don't think it will do any harm, though I would remove anything I copied there. That location appear so to be a location for "privileged" plugins, but I'm not exactly certain. At any rate, 3rd party plugins belong in the folder I described above. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:15 AM, SN jef chippewa <

Re: [Finale] Patterson and JW Plugins not Loading

2015-09-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Here's the part of his message that concerns me: "I...went to the Finale app, selected “Show Package Contents” and copied the .bundle files in the Plugins folder." That's not where plugins live. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:02 AM, SN jef chippewa < shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > i under

Re: [Finale] Patterson and JW Plugins not Loading

2015-09-02 Thread Robert Patterson
You should never have to copy plugins into the Finale bundle. That's not where they live. On Macs they live (by default) in /Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2014/Plug-Ins (or something very close to that) On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:49 AM, SN jef chippewa < shirl...@newmusicnotation.co

Re: [Finale] 12x18 booklet printing workflow

2015-08-28 Thread Robert Patterson
Darcy wrote: "it's less than ideal if you have "display on every page" headers that you do not want to display on blank pages." That's precisely why I wrote my Add Blank Pages plugin: to suppress the page headers on the final blank pages. But of course with the advent of linked parts in Fin07 it

Re: [Finale] FinWin 12c and Win10?

2015-08-17 Thread Robert Patterson
As I mentioned on a different thread, I upgraded a Win8.1 system and a Win7 system to Win10, and the upgrade process was completely smooth. No issues whatsoever. I hardly use WinFin, so I can't answer the more pertinent question in detail, but WinFin12 certainly starts up and runs. The change in s

Re: [Finale] Windows Surface Pro 3/StaffPad Update

2015-08-16 Thread Robert Patterson
Actually, I just got my iPhone screen replaced at the Apple store a few months ago. Not the cheapest option in the world, but way less than a new phone or $320. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:29 PM, David Froom wrote: > On 16 Aug 2015, at 1:00 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > > Even wo

Re: [Finale] Windows Surface Pro 3/StaffPad Update

2015-08-15 Thread Robert Patterson
n Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: > Thanks, Robert! You took one for the team! > On Aug 15, 2015 2:33 PM, "Robert Patterson" > wrote: > > > As many of you know, I got a Windows Surface Pro 3 to try out StaffPad. > > Unfortunately it is (literal

[Finale] Windows Surface Pro 3/StaffPad Update

2015-08-15 Thread Robert Patterson
As many of you know, I got a Windows Surface Pro 3 to try out StaffPad. Unfortunately it is (literally) a bust. But first, the good. The handwriting recognition with the pen is fantastic. This is the one thing that Microsoft has gotten right on this device. Unfortunately everything else about it i

[Finale] Bach Chaconne in Finale

2015-08-06 Thread Robert Patterson
I find I have to enter the Bach Chaconne into Finale. It don't suppose any of you kind people has already done it and would share...? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a

Re: [Finale] Sporadically Displaying Naturals at Start of System

2015-08-04 Thread Robert Patterson
The only workaround I see, if you really must have this result, is quite ugly but it will achieve the visual result. (You must have Fin14.) Reenable the doc option. Then every place you *don't* want the naturals to appear, instead of changing the key to C, change it to the same key as preceded it b

Re: [Finale] Spacing option for leger lines?

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Update: I've prototyped the leger line solution and it works perfectly in a plugin. No muss no fuss. On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Fiskum, Steve wrote: > Let me see if I can figure something out. > > Thanks, > Steve > > > > > On Aug 1, 2015, at 1

Re: [Finale] Spacing option for leger lines?

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Patterson
cing in its current form. > > Thanks, > Steve > > > > > On Aug 1, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > jef's solution is perfect. (i tried it.) now if i can just bake it into > my > > Note Spa

Re: [Finale] Spacing option for leger lines?

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Patterson
tems too, > so > > may not really be the best solution. Here are a couple of screen shots, > one > > with the minimum distance set to 24 evpus and one set to 0 evpus. > > [image: Inline image 2][image: Inline image 1] > > > > > > -- Forwarded messa

Re: [Finale] Spacing option for leger lines?

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Patterson
p.s. if plugins have access to leger line length. i'll have to research that. On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > jef you're a genius. that's a feature i'm adding to my note spacing plugin! > > On

Re: [Finale] Spacing option for leger lines?

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Patterson
jef you're a genius. that's a feature i'm adding to my note spacing plugin! On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:05 PM, shirl...@newmusicnotation.com < shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > you could try setting the line width shorter by 2 EVPU until the final > spacing > and layout has been done, then

[Finale] Spacing option for leger lines?

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Is there any way to control how much space Finale allots between leger lines? The gap that it is currently leaving is too wide, and no setting seems to change it. Obviously I could turn off leger lines in the avoid collisions option, but then they...well...collide. _

[Finale] OT: Recent chamber music for French Horn

2015-07-21 Thread Robert Patterson
I am looking for interesting pieces (especially if there is a youtube of it) with 3-8 players that include 1 or 2 French horn parts, written in the late 20th cent. or 21st cent. I'm trying to avoid standard ensembles like wind and brass quintets, and I'm particularly interested in horn as part of a

[Finale] OT: StaffPad and palm rejection

2015-07-16 Thread Robert Patterson
So I got my Windows Surface, and I have started practicing entering music with a pen (in StaffPad). It works decently, though I am so ham-fisted (and now, arthritic) that I wonder if I can ever use it productively. But the main issue right now is that the palm rejection doesn't seem rock solid. In

Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson
P.S. You made need to actually change something before an asv will appear. On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:50 PM, shirl...@newmusicnotation.com < shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > it seems creating a new folder/location for the auto-save and rebooting has > solved the problem. perhaps i burned

Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson
t could be that the file that reopens after a crash is the last save (as > chuck > suggested), but last time it crashed was in fact during the auto-save > function, > so i couldn't tell. in any case, the file has to be somewhere, maybe > hidden and > spotlight ca

Re: [Finale] auto-save working but can't find file

2015-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson
Your impression is partially correct. However, the autosave copy (I believe) is in fact still visible. However, when you installed Fin14 it probably changed the location of the autosave files to a location you aren't expecting. At least that's what happened with me. On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 11:23 A

Re: [Finale] partial measure in C (2014 no, 2012 yes)

2015-07-11 Thread Robert Patterson
My best guess is that your staff style that changes the number of staff lines also has some other option checked that is required to be assigned to full measures. I have no problem assigning staff styles that change the number of lines to a partial measure, but I also have strict rule that every st

Re: [Finale] partial measure in C (2014 no, 2012 yes)

2015-07-11 Thread Robert Patterson
A staff-style that changes the number of lines can be applied to a partial measure in Fin14. This has not changed. A staff-style that applies a transposition must be applied to a full measure. There has been a change in this over time. Many years ago it was possible to place a transposing staff-st

Re: [Finale] improving speed in F2014 (mac)?

2015-07-09 Thread Robert Patterson
jef, another option you could consider short of upgrading the entire machine is replacing your system drive (and any other drive) with a solid state drive. this is probably the single most effective speed upgrade you could make. you get ones that are plug-compatible with the internal drives of mos

Re: [Finale] OT: Low end Surface Pro 3 with StaffPad

2015-07-06 Thread Robert Patterson
in practicality. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >> > >>> On Jul 6, 2015, at 5:25 PM, David H. Bailey > wrote: > >>> > >>> On 7/6/2015 7:46 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > >>>> FWIW: The StaffPad guy says it works great on the i

Re: [Finale] OT: Low end Surface Pro 3 with StaffPad

2015-07-06 Thread Robert Patterson
> > see spending the extra bucks for a machine that, to me was LESS > functional. > > > > I would definitely NOT recommend the 64GB. That doesn't leave very much > > room for OS and apps. If you really think you will never do much more > > than use StaffPad, then

Re: [Finale] OT: Low end Surface Pro 3 with StaffPad

2015-07-06 Thread Robert Patterson
for a machine that, to me was LESS functional. > > I would definitely NOT recommend the 64GB. That doesn't leave very much > room for OS and apps. If you really think you will never do much more > than use StaffPad, then 64GB is OK. But I would look seriously at 128GB. > &g

[Finale] OT: Low end Surface Pro 3 with StaffPad

2015-07-05 Thread Robert Patterson
For those of you out there using StaffPad, is the low-end Surface Pro 3 (i3 64GB model) powerful enough to run StaffPad. My main interest in it is as a music reader and for StaffPad. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/l

Re: [Finale] Force Full Staff/Group Names

2015-06-30 Thread Robert Patterson
el! That's exactly what I want. > Now, is there a way to copy/paste measure attributes? > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > If you are using a version of Finale from before when they added the > >

Re: [Finale] Force Full Staff/Group Names

2015-06-30 Thread Robert Patterson
If you are using a version of Finale from before when they added the measure attribute, there is an old version of my plugins that does the staff style way automatically. (v3.5) On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya < rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. It's in Measure Attribut

[Finale] Note/Pitch counting plugin

2015-06-22 Thread Robert Patterson
Does anyone know of a plugin or other utility that will count pitches in a given passage? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu

[Finale] OT: Online hyphenator for German

2015-06-14 Thread Robert Patterson
I really like Juicio Brennan's online lyric hyphenator , but as far as I can tell it only works for English. Does anyone know of a similar resource for German? The closest I've found is the Soft Hyphenator, but this requires an extr

Re: [Finale] orchestra show of power? or justified deadline?

2015-06-03 Thread Robert Patterson
In my orchestra, the musicians have to have access to the parts at least a month ahead of time. Working back from there, the librarian has to have enough time for: 1. The concertmaster to decide on the bowings for Vln 1 2. The other principal strings to bow their parts based on step#1. 3. The libr

Re: [Finale] Titles

2015-05-26 Thread Robert Patterson
There is no solution that is fully automatic. Using left barline attached expressions is a pretty good workaround, but it will not be automatic unless your score and parts have the same page, system and staff sizes and percent sizes. For me this is almost never the case. I have continued to use Pa

Re: [Finale] cross staff moving

2015-05-23 Thread Robert Patterson
Are you sure that the "Cross Staff" option is still selected in the Note Mover menu? On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 6:33 AM, dc wrote: > I have a short lute piece transcribed for keyboard on two staves > (originally on one). So I need to move some of the notes from the upper > staff to the lower one. T

Re: [Finale] ADV: Re: Measures hiding in Page view...

2015-05-21 Thread Robert Patterson
iposa County > > Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra ♫ > ♪ ♫ > > > > Marsden Marx Pages (former career ended by disability): > http://tinyurl.com/ygpj7og > > Mariposa Symphony Orchestra: http://tinyurl.com/MariposaSO > > > > >

Re: [Finale] Measures hiding in Page view...

2015-05-21 Thread Robert Patterson
You probably need to rebuild your multimeasure rests in the affected part. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: > Hi, Everyone – > > Win 8.1, Fin2012 > > Dealing with a problem I’ve never encountered before: two measures are > missing from a part but only in page v

Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 142, Issue 19

2015-05-21 Thread Robert Patterson
Mike, MacFin14d, which is the first version I've noticed this. With Fin12 it works as you describe. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Michael Dutka wrote: > Robert, what version are you running? I've crashed about ten times in the > last week, and I've always found the .asv file afterwards, usu

Re: [Finale] Auto-save doesn't autosave (MacFin14d)

2015-05-21 Thread Robert Patterson
just > different, and I have stopped worrying. > > Chuck > > > > On May 21, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > I don't like it at all. I've written to Makemusic support. We'll see what > > th

Re: [Finale] Auto-save doesn't autosave (MacFin14d)

2015-05-21 Thread Robert Patterson
; >> is what I think. Scholars may differ. > >> > >> If you want to check the archives, I started a thread on this problem on > >> 2/17/15. (You responded to it.) I'd be happy to forward you the emails, > >> if that's more convenient. > >

Re: [Finale] Auto-save doesn't autosave (MacFin14d)

2015-05-21 Thread Robert Patterson
really investigate fully. It does mean that if you crash in > the middle of a long and complex experiment, you don't have the "return > to saved" option. I think. > > John > > > On 5/21/15 9:16 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > Has anyone else seen this?

[Finale] Auto-save doesn't autosave (MacFin14d)

2015-05-21 Thread Robert Patterson
Has anyone else seen this? I have Finale set to autosave every 5 minutes, but on the frequent occasions when Finale crashes, the asv file is nowhere to be found. The folder is correctly set in the preferences. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https

Re: [Finale] StaffPad has released a great update! (lengthy update to my previous review)

2015-05-12 Thread Robert Patterson
I would agree with Darcy that there is certainly a market for the last x% of engraving sophistication. It seems to me the first step is for a program to provide that at least as a manual option, and I think Sib and Fin are positioned well to provide it if one or the other would but make it a priori

Re: [Finale] Adding a staff to a part causes respace of score

2015-05-11 Thread Robert Patterson
what happens if you use the > old-fashioned method of double clicking with the staff tool? > > Christopher > > > On Mon May 11, at MondayMay 11 10:00 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > > When I add a staff to a pre-existing part it respaces the score. Does > > anyone

[Finale] Adding a staff to a part causes respace of score

2015-05-11 Thread Robert Patterson
When I add a staff to a pre-existing part it respaces the score. Does anyone know if there is a way around this? I can't lose my score spacing. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from fin

Re: [Finale] StaffPad has released a great update! (lengthy update to my previous review)

2015-05-09 Thread Robert Patterson
David, Are you using StaffPad alone or more as a front end for Fin/Sib? Also, would the new custom time sig feature permit free sketching without having to commit to a time sig? (Presumably large-valued time-sig like 10/2 or something). Robert On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 8:26 AM, David H. Bailey

Re: [Finale] Copy problem

2015-04-29 Thread Robert Patterson
If all you need to do is copy tuplet settings, my Mass Copy plugin does it without any fuss. (Copying tuplet settings was its original function.) On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:09 PM, SN jef chippewa < shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > i have avoided troubles copying complex tuplet settings b

Re: [Finale] Copy problem

2015-04-29 Thread Robert Patterson
I'm not sure if it will do what you want, but I've had very good success copying rhythms with the JW Rhythm Copy plugin. It is a free download. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm engraving a piece of music for percussion, five staves. > There are four

Re: [Finale] Smart Shape Editor for Windows

2015-04-12 Thread Robert Patterson
I should be able to find them. Just submit the upgrade without them. On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:26 PM, marcellon...@gmail.com < marcellon...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Robert Patterson, how can a dumb guy who does not find the previous > registration codes > make the upgrade proce

[Finale] Smart Shape Editor for Windows

2015-04-12 Thread Robert Patterson
Someone let me know overnight that the Smart Shape Editor is not available in the Windows package of Patterson Plugins V5. I have repackaged and uploaded the Windows version to include it. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mai

Re: [Finale] Version 5 Announcement

2015-04-09 Thread Robert Patterson
Finale 2012 is the earliest version that will recognize Version 5. On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, dc wrote: > Le 09/04/2015 18:57, Robert Patterson écrit : > > I am very pleased to announce the availability of Version 5 of the > > Patterson Plugins Collection and Copyist Helpe

[Finale] Version 5 Announcement

2015-04-09 Thread Robert Patterson
x27;s Expression Assignment dialog allows for expressions. Beyond these there are many improvements and bug-fixes throughout the product. More information is available at my website. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list F

Re: [Finale] StaffPad (for Windows Surface Pro 3)

2015-04-07 Thread Robert Patterson
But beyond this, another reason I am attracted to the Surface Pro is the ability to use it as a music stand. The pen-based interface seems ideal (and the 12" screen just about ideal) for abandoning printed sheet music. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatte

Re: [Finale] StaffPad (for Windows Surface Pro 3)

2015-04-07 Thread Robert Patterson
The appeal for me is the pen-based entry at the beginning. I can't imagine giving up my multi-monitor Mac setup when the time comes to finalize the edits and especially to do the page layout. (On a 12" screen? No way! I'm not going back to those days.) On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Darcy James A

[Finale] StaffPad (for Windows Surface Pro 3)

2015-04-07 Thread Robert Patterson
I got interested in StaffPad after Darcy posted about it a few days ago. The more I read, the more impressed I become. The very fact that an apparently committed Mac user like Darcy is interested in a Windows-only platform make

Re: [Finale] Fin2014 — custom smart lines attach to beats?

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
ng an opt-click on the Tab Slide tool instead of the Custom Line > Tool! > > Cheers, > > - DJA > - > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > > I'm not able to reproduce this behavior in M

Re: [Finale] Fin2014 — custom smart lines attach to beats?

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
I'm not able to reproduce this behavior in MacFin14d. What I did: 1. New a default doc 2. Open the Custom Line Dialog. 3. Hit Create 4. Hit Okay. When I assign the new shape it is beat attached, not note attached. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hi all, > > As of Fi

Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
to be doing anything at all. > > > > I'm puzzled. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Lawrence > > > > On 6 April 2015 at 15:12, Robert Patterson > > wrote: > > > >> P.S. You are opening the "Staff Style Define" d

Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
P.S. You are opening the "Staff Style Define" dialog, right? If you open the Staff Definition dialog by double-clicking the staff, it does not have the Transposition option. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > That&#x

Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
That's very strange. On my version of WinFin12c (that I just downloaded), "Transposition" is the fourth option under "Appearance". On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Lawrence Yates wrote: > No, I've got 2012c and it doesn't seem to be there. > >

Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
umpet, then changing the > transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell of a > thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often. > > > On 6 April 2015 at 14:09, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > > Transposition was removed from staff styles in the first rele

Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
Transposition was removed from staff styles in the first release of Fin12, then added back in a subsequent update. Make sure your WinFin12 is the latest version. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Lawrence Yates wrote: > Hi, > > In WinFin 2012 how do I change the horn's transposition mid-piece, for

[Finale] Force Hide & Collapse not working

2015-04-03 Thread Robert Patterson
I have a piece where I have applied Force Hide & Collapse staff styles to linked parts in various places throughout the score. They show up on the screen without issue, but when I print to PDF, the music that's supposed to be hidden is not hidden. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a remedy? _

Re: [Finale] Fin09 Stem Connections

2015-04-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Apparently this is a bug that was fixed in a version after Fin09. I don't have a working copy of Fin09, but I have the same problem in Fin08. However, it works in Fin14. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Yes it does, just checked. > > Am 02.04.15 um 14:54

Re: [Finale] Fin09 Stem Connections

2015-04-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Does your custom font have font annotations for the characters? I don't know if that's the issue, but it could be. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > One more detail: It seems to work when I make Maestro my notehead font, > but not with my custom font, while the special no

Re: [Finale] Copying independent time signatures

2015-03-26 Thread Robert Patterson
temless notes and > invisible tuplets, and copying it always broke the tuplets. The thing I > found that finally worked was creating staff views of each single staff I > needed to copy, and then keeping stack selection checked when copying and > pasting. > > > > St

Re: [Finale] Copying independent time signatures

2015-03-25 Thread Robert Patterson
You can create a staff view of just the independent staff (or staves) and then you can do a full stack selection. I just tried this and it seemed to work. I don't know if there are caveats. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hello, > > If you have a staff that is set to

Re: [Finale] Changing slurred 8ths to 8th-16th

2015-03-22 Thread Robert Patterson
It does seem to remove the slurs, but adding them back should be a snap with Mass Copy unless you've done individual edits on them. Even then, I think you could make a copy of your file before you run the JW plugin, then copy the slurs from the copy back to the original after running the JW plugin

Re: [Finale] Changing slurred 8ths to 8th-16th

2015-03-22 Thread Robert Patterson
e > clearer for string players, I see no advantage to doing it this way for the > rest of the orchestra. > > Cheers, > > - DJA > - > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > On Mar 22, 2015, at 1:25 AM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > > One quite frequent

Re: [Finale] [Olist] Re: [sibelius-list] Notation program MuseScore version 2 has a new release candidate for download

2015-03-22 Thread Robert Patterson
I find it interesting to see such loyal Sibelius users, continuing to defend it now even though it is (at least apparently) dead, like Michael Palin and the legendary parrot in the Monty Python skit. I wonder if there exists a Finale user with such fanatic loyalty. I've never met one. Does anyone

Re: [Finale] copying collections of expressions

2015-03-22 Thread Robert Patterson
In recent versions of Finale, I will sometimes create a new (or select an existing) passage of music that has the expression, articulations, and or custom smart shapes I want and copy that measure into the new document. Then clear the measure in the new doc. (As long as you don't use Undo, the tran

Re: [Finale] Changing slurred 8ths to 8th-16th

2015-03-21 Thread Robert Patterson
One quite frequently sees different articulation notations in string and wind parts, even when the desired sound is the same. I've noticed this a lot in the scores of Ravel in particular. But if you count different slurring, the practice is ubiquitous. That said, there is no reason to use a differ

Re: [Finale] Changing slurred 8ths to 8th-16th

2015-03-21 Thread Robert Patterson
Deleting the the articulation marks is trivial with my Mass Copy plugin: 1. Select the region where you want the articulations deleted. 2. Open the plugin, select "Ariticulations" and hit Clear. On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Christopher Smith < christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > Jari W

Re: [Finale] Changing slurred 8ths to 8th-16th

2015-03-20 Thread Robert Patterson
I hate to be a nay-sayer, but I agree with the string player. Even placing up-bow and down-bow markings doesn't clarify the notation, because the whole point of portato is that the bow doesn't change direction. Plus, I've found my guesses about the most convenient up- or down- bowings of a given pa

Re: [Finale] Changing slurred 8ths to 8th-16th

2015-03-20 Thread Robert Patterson
The version with the staccato dot could be mistaken for meaning portato bowing. I think the version with 16ths is clearer. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > The version with a staccato dot could be mistaken for meaning a specific > kind of bowing that is apparent

Re: [Finale] Grace note issues

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Patterson
n every staff with > grace notes requires its own individual attention. (I suppose there's no > way around that… ) > > Cheers, > > - DJA > - > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > > D

Re: [Finale] Triplet number positioning when "Avoid Staff" is checked

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Patterson
Darcy, I just re-read your post and realized you were referring to beam angles of grace notes, which Patterson Beams does not affect. Here again, a mitigating tool is Mass Copy, which can recognize and copy grace note beam angles. Robert On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Robert Patterson <

Re: [Finale] Triplet number positioning when "Avoid Staff" is checked

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Patterson
Darcy, I have no answer to your question, but I will mention that I am very happy with the autopositioning options in my Tuplet Mover plugin. It requires turning off engraver slurs and other automatic positioning options in Finale. (Otherwise the plugin does't know where the tuplet actually is.) S

Re: [Finale] Grace note issues

2015-03-06 Thread Robert Patterson
Darcy, For beam angles, I'm pretty happy with Patterson Beams. It's not 100% but it's close. ymmv For grace notes, I always turn off grace notes in the spacing options, so that any manual work I do is not destroyed. Then I hand-edit one or two and move the positioning of those with my Mass Copy p

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