Thanx for that Eric. Been dying to see it.
Talk about knowing the music backwards!
Jerry
On 4-Oct-06, at 3:18 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso
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Stan Lord wrote:
I'd love to see this but the URL doesn't work for me.
It comes up in German "Die Seite wurde nicht gefunden"
Which my friend tells me means site not found.
Any ideas?
I just clicked on it and got the same response -- perhaps there was too
much traffic for the site to bear.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso
Stan Lord wrote:
I'd love to see this but the URL doesn't work for me.
It comes up in German "Die Seite wurde nicht gefunden"
Which my friend tells me means site not found.
Any ideas?
Stan Lord
On 23 Sep 2006, at 22:11, Randolph Peters wrote:
If you wan
I'd love to see this but the URL doesn't work for me. It comes up in German "Die Seite wurde nicht gefunden"Which my friend tells me means site not found.Any ideas?Stan LordOn 23 Sep 2006, at 22:11, Randolph Peters wrote:If you want to see music engraving done "old school," there is a fascinating v
On 26.09.2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some time ago Johannes published (on the web) a list of recommended settings to
meke Finale output look more professional. Does a similar list still exist
anywhere?
I found them very useful and have been especially disappointed with the "out of the box"
On 26.09.2006 dc wrote:
Enter music into Finale's default file, space the music with Finale's music
spacing tool: unless you're in a lucky day, the last system will be much too
widely spaced. I find it incredible that after all these years the the music
isn't by default spaced regularly accros
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 27 Sep 2006, at 9:50 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
On Sep 27, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
BTW, I meant the actual edge of the paper is ragged, left uncut. I
don't know what the industry term for that is.
- Darcy
-
Messy? Sloppy? Just being face
On 25.09.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
Not true in my experiences. I've printed out samples of Sibelius and Finale files for
friends to look at; whever I ask them to pick the samples that look the most like
published music- Sibelius *always* wins. When I ask the resons why they didn't pick the
On 27 Sep 2006 at 22:29, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> Yes, "deckle edge" seems to fit the bill.
>
> I'm sure it's not a new thing, but it seems to have become very
> trendy in publishing (especially fiction) over the past 10 years or
> so.
My bookshelf has deckel edges from all periods, though th
Yes, "deckle edge" seems to fit the bill.
I'm sure it's not a new thing, but it seems to have become very
trendy in publishing (especially fiction) over the past 10 years or so.
- Darcy
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On 27 Sep 2006, at 10:19 PM, David
At 09:27 PM 9/27/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>Well, you'll notice the recent trend towards using a ragged right
>edge in hardcovers.
Ragged right goes in & out of fashion. Books were sometimes published with
uncut signatures, and you had to tear the pages at the edges. In fact, many
of th
On 27 Sep 2006 at 21:33, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> BTW, I meant the actual edge of the paper is ragged, left uncut. I
> don't know what the industry term for that is.
Do you mean deckle edge?
It's not exactly a new thing!
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On 27 Sep 2006, at 9:50 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
On Sep 27, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
BTW, I meant the actual edge of the paper is ragged, left uncut. I
don't know what the industry term for that is.
- Darcy
-
Messy? Sloppy? Just being facetious. Seems to me it go
On Sep 27, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
BTW, I meant the actual edge of the paper is ragged, left uncut. I
don't know what the industry term for that is.
- Darcy
-
Messy? Sloppy? Just being facetious. Seems to me it goes along
with torn jeans. I don't know that I'd
BTW, I meant the actual edge of the paper is ragged, left uncut. I
don't know what the industry term for that is.
- Darcy
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On 27 Sep 2006, at 9:27 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Well, you'll notice the recent trend towards u
Well, you'll notice the recent trend towards using a ragged right
edge in hardcovers.
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On 27 Sep 2006, at 9:27 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Lilypond claims a more human engraved look based on slight
irregularities
Lilypond claims a more human engraved look based on slight
irregularities that are programed into the software. I don't use
Lilypond. I just happened to know of their emphasis and thought it
pertinent to the discussion.
When was the last time anybody heard about book/periodical typesetting
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To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:12 AM
Subject: Fin vs. Sib vs. Lilypond [was Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving
video]
Trent Johnston wrote:
One thing I did notice in the video was tha
Trent Johnston wrote:
One thing I did notice in the video was that all the layout issues were
sorted out before the engraving started. He was engraving page 40 and he
knew the bars of music were going to appear on that page. It's funny that
the first piece of advice that most notation program m
On 26 Sep 2006 at 15:33, Javier Ruiz wrote:
> Or Makemusic could buy-out those two guys who are doing Lilypond and
> add all the technology to Finale.
Isn't the only thing Lilypond has to offer its particular music
spacing algorithm? I'm not terribly impressed with the results,
myself, but with
It is strange to agree with Mr. Fenton ;) but in this case I am afraid he is
right.
But...
(From possible to completely impossible)
Maybe Lilypond will accept MusicXML files in the future. Then one could
input the notes with Finale and get the rendering with Lilypond.
Or Finale will add "Expor
At 09:13 AM 9/26/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote:
>When that day comes, it will be worth looking at for regular
>notational use.
Maybe for 'regular' notational use. I gave this program a run, and sent a
long list of questions about and suggestions for contemporary scores, since
it was largely inc
On Sep 26, 2006, at 5:35 AM, Trent Johnston wrote:
I've also been using Lilypond for a while and it's not so much the
inperpections that make the layout good but the attention to detail.
What
Lilypond does differently though is that the computer does a lot of
some of
the manual work for you. A
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video
|
| On Sep 26, 2006, at 5:35 AM, Trent Johnston wrote:
| > I've also been using Lilypond for a wh
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video
| On 26 Sep 2006 at 19:35, Trent Johnston wrote:
|
| > What
| > Lilypond does differently though is th
On 26 Sep 2006 at 19:35, Trent Johnston wrote:
> What
> Lilypond does differently though is that the computer does a lot of
> some of the manual work for you. As most of you may know that the
> score is created from a text file.When the score "compiled" this is
> when the computer is really put t
On Sep 26, 2006, at 3:44 AM, dc wrote:
By the way, there are some interesting things on the Lilypond site,
but the Finale sample given there is absolutely ridiculous!
http://lilypond.org/web/about/automated-engraving/software.html
I know, I looked at those. It's a classic "straw man" argu
On 26 Sep 2006 at 23:02, Trent Johnston wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video
>
> | On 26 Sep 2006 at 19:35,
On Sep 26, 2006, at 4:06 AM, dhbailey wrote:
When the discussion is entirely about musical issues, I have
succeeded. When nobody complains about the printing job I have
succeeded.
That's what counts most, not whether the music could be hung in the
Detroit Museum of Musical Engravings or f
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle engraving video
| John Howell wrote:
| > At 10:19 PM -0400 9/25/06, Christopher Smith wrote:
| >>
| >> I know Finale
John Howell wrote:
At 10:19 PM -0400 9/25/06, Christopher Smith wrote:
I know Finale's default spacing is not up to professional standards,
for example. But unless they are seeing Finale output tweaked by a
pro, they aren't seeing what the program can do, and it is an unjust
criticism, in ad
But most likely those same people would have produced the same uglier
output (probably even uglier, given Finale's defaults) had they simply
opened the box and began using Finale, which is most likely what they
did using Sibelius.
An experienced Sibelius user would have most likely made a simi
Eric's points concerning the November font is another example of why a
discussion of what's possible in the two programs is futile, as is any
discussion of what constitutes great output even when discussing only
one program.
Not all musicians appreciate the same things in the music they look a
Richard Smith wrote:
I'm sorry if it seemed so, but I did not intend to "bemoan" Finale's
"lack of consistency". I simply pointed out, without agreeing, that
Lilypond claims a more human engraved look based on slight
irregularities that are programed into the software. I don't use
Lilypond. I
I dunno. I looked at the November font, and tried to reproduce the first
couple of lines off the Polka example. I didn't really notice much
difference other than the treble clef, and the key signature being
different (treble clef was darker, and fatter in November). The note
heads seem to be th
Some time ago Johannes published (on the web) a list of recommended
settings to meke Finale output look more professional. Does a similar
list still exist anywhere?
I found them very useful and have been especially disappointed with the
"out of the box" settings in Fin2006.
All the best,
Richard Smith wrote:
> Some on this list may have seen Lilypond which is open source software
> (as in free) that tries to emulate those little imperfections and get
> something closer to hand engraving. I haven't used it but the video
> certainly shows the reason behind it.http://lilypond.
Sadly, yes, Finale is lacking in "House Styles". The Maestro Default
File really looks bad. And then we get into all the
templates..*shutters*. Don't make me go there..
They really should have Bill Duncan supply the default templates. Of
course, for nice princely sum ;-)
John Howell
And I see the total opposite. I can't count how many times I've seen
silly looking Sibelius charts in groups where they look like they are
done by monkeys or something. I look at it, and go "in Finale, I could
knock it down to 2 pages and it would look better".
But, either tool, in the hands o
At 10:19 PM -0400 9/25/06, Christopher Smith wrote:
I know Finale's default spacing is not up to professional standards,
for example. But unless they are seeing Finale output tweaked by a
pro, they aren't seeing what the program can do, and it is an unjust
criticism, in addition to being non-
I'm sorry if it seemed so, but I did not intend to "bemoan" Finale's
"lack of consistency". I simply pointed out, without agreeing, that
Lilypond claims a more human engraved look based on slight
irregularities that are programed into the software. I don't use
Lilypond. I just happened to know
On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "And I STILL maintain that you don't know what your friends were reacting to; the font, the spacing, the line thickness, or what I construed as the original poster's point, which was the inconsistency
Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"And I STILL maintain that you don't know what your friends were reacting to; the font, the spacing, the line thickness, or what I construed as the original poster's point, which was the inconsistency of human engraving."
Actually I do know, since some
On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:I'm normally quick to point out Finale's flaws, but in this case you are off-base. You didn't respond to the poster who pointed out that it takes some effort to make the music look right. If Sibe
Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
I'm normally quick to point out Finale's flaws, but in this case you are off-base.
You didn't respond to the poster who pointed out that it takes some effort to make the music look right. If Sibelius wins a sample contest for best-looking music,
A religious war wasn't my intent either. I'm pretty sure either app
works very well. As the video shows, we are lucky to have both. I
remember (vividly), as both a copyist and a performer, the pen and ink
days and am glad that's past.
Someone commented about line thickness. After working a bit
Hoping not to continue a religious war, I offer the fact that I never
could get past the template setup in Sib. because it apparently lacks
nested desk brackets. (As in, e.g., The Rite of Spring).
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On Sep 25, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I am a long time (v.2) Finale user but prefer Sib. I would say both are definitely capable of the same result, minus the human imperfections. Interestingly, one of the minor reasons I prefer Sib. is bec
Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am a long time (v.2) Finale user but prefer Sib. I would say both are definitely capable of the same result, minus the human imperfections. Interestingly, one of the minor reasons I prefer Sib. is because Finale output, to me, often looks too mechanic
I am a long time (v.2) Finale user but prefer Sib. I would say both are definitely capable of the same result, minus the human imperfections. Interestingly, one of the minor reasons I prefer Sib. is because Finale output, to me, often looks too mechanical. Tosh. Both apps are capable of making the
On 24 Sep 2006 at 16:50, Andrew Stiller wrote:
> In the first half of the twentieth century,
> hand engraving was still the only way to publish music, and so the
> (very controversial) new music of the time (Stravinsky, Schoenberg,
> etc.) was all engraved regardless of return, and any losses wr
On 24 Sep 2006 at 16:45, Andrew Stiller wrote:
> In the 18th c., all businesses were family businesses, and everyone in
> the family contributed. It is a virtual certainty that Telemann had
> his wife and kids doing a lot of the scutwork. They may actually have
> done all the actual engraving! The
On 24 Sep 2006 at 12:58, John Howell wrote:
> At 9:28 AM -0700 9/24/06, Carl Dershem wrote:
> >Michael Cook wrote:
> >
> >>The URL points to an 80 MB WMV file, so it might take a while to
> >>load: I saved the file to my hard disk and it was well worth the
> >>wait. The video was apparently made i
On 24 Sep 2006 at 12:27, John Howell wrote:
> At 9:25 AM -0400 9/24/06, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> >At 06:15 AM 9/24/06 -0700, Richard Yates wrote:
> >>I thought it amazing that it took him ONLY eight hours to do that
> >>page with those methods.
> >
> >Yeah, amazing, but I thought it was more
Eric,
Tubesock is a video only app, if I'm not mistaken. The $29 version of
Snapz will capture anything still, full or partial screen. The pro
version does that plus video. Anyway, for $15 Tubesock is worth a
shot, if only for video.
Herman
On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:06 PM, Eric Dannewitz wro
There is also a capture utility for Mac OS X called TubeSock
http://stinkbot.com/Tubesock/index.html
It's $15
Herman Gersten wrote:
Dear List,
Perhaps you'd like to know about an still image and movie capturing
app that will record and save anything right from your monitor. It's
called SNAP
Dear List,
Perhaps you'd like to know about an still image and movie capturing
app that will record and save anything right from your monitor. It's
called SNAPZ ProX for Mac users.
Go to YouTube and have the video ready to play. All you do is select
the portion of your screen where the
From pewter to compewter. ;-(
Chuck
On Sep 24, 2006, at 3:01 PM, dhbailey wrote:
I had thought it was pewter,
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John Howell wrote:
At 9:25 AM -0400 9/24/06, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 06:15 AM 9/24/06 -0700, Richard Yates wrote:
I thought it amazing that it took him ONLY eight hours to do that
page with
those methods.
Yeah, amazing, but I thought it was more amazing that all that time &
talent & c
Robert Patterson wrote:
[snip]
Kurt Stone offers excellent notation suggestions for new music. Choosing
one at random, we can dicuss the circles for notating location on a drum
head (p. 222ff). An engraver would want to know how wide (in spaces)
should the circle be? What width line should the
On Sep 24, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Sep 24, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
You know in the baroque, Telemann used to engrave some of his own
music. Watching this video, I wonder
where the man found the time to actually *learn* how to do it,
then compose his m
On Sep 24, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
Someone lamented that new music has not received such care. Like it or
not, new music simply does not sell enough copies to justify that kind
of investment.
It's not quite that simple. In the first half of the twentieth century,
hand en
On Sep 24, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
You know in the baroque, Telemann used to engrave some of his
own music. Watching this video, I wonder
where the man found the time to actually *learn* how to do it, then
compose his music, teach students, keep his
marriage going, and rai
Robert Patterson wrote:
Curiously, one aspect of engraving a computer may never be able to
emulate is the slight human imperfections that give hand-engraved
scores the charm of human touch. Other than this, I think the video is
correct in stating that computers will achieve the same results.
Once the address is in the URL box hold down the CONTROL key and hit
the ENTER button. The window for SAVE AS... should pop up allowing
you to save the file wherever you wish. That is how I saved it on my
MAC.
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At 10:46 AM 9/24/06 -0700, Richard Yates wrote:
Sorry, unwrapped:
http://www.caldergroup.co.uk/media//safety/H&S%20DS%20-%20Pb.pdf#search=%22hazards%20of%20metallic%20lead%22
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At 10:46 AM 9/24/06 -0700, Richard Yates wrote:
>I don't think metallic lead poses any particular risk. It is soluble forms
>that are hazardous.
Metallic lead is incredibly toxic. Here's a data sheet from one company:
http://www.caldergroup.co.uk/media//safety/H&S%20DS%20-%20Pb.pdf#search=%22h
az
> >Yeah, amazing, but I thought it was more amazing that all that time &
> >talent & cash was being tossed into old music again -- not to mention, ye
> >gads, working with lead with bare hands and no face mask!
I don't think metallic lead poses any particular risk. It is soluble forms
that are haz
I put it on YouTube for you guys. I'll remove it in a few days...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso
John Howell wrote:
At 12:58 PM -0400 9/24/06, John Howell wrote:
At 9:28 AM -0700 9/24/06, Carl Dershem wrote:
Michael Cook wrote:
The URL points to an 80 MB WMV file, so it might
://www.geocities.com/~jbenz/lesbio.html
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John Howell
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:58
AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Tan: Henle
engraving video
Can someone explain to this
technodummy exactly HOW to "save the fi
John Howell wrote:
At 9:28 AM -0700 9/24/06, Carl Dershem wrote:
Michael Cook wrote:
The URL points to an 80 MB WMV file, so it might take a while to
load: I saved the file to my hard disk and it was well worth the
wait. The video was apparently made in 1997 and the engraver is just
incre
At 12:58 PM -0400 9/24/06, John Howell wrote:
At 9:28 AM -0700 9/24/06, Carl Dershem wrote:
Michael Cook wrote:
The URL points to an 80 MB WMV file, so it might take a while to
load: I saved the file to my hard disk and it was well worth the
wait. The video was apparently made in 1997 and the
At 9:28 AM -0700 9/24/06, Carl Dershem wrote:
Michael Cook wrote:
The URL points to an 80 MB WMV file, so it might take a while to
load: I saved the file to my hard disk and it was well worth the
wait. The video was apparently made in 1997 and the engraver is
just incredible.
Even with my
At 3:16 PM +0100 9/24/06, Javier Ruiz wrote:
And not to mention the fact that Finale (and later Sibelius) was available
since 1990 (?).
It seemed that they were using this method until 2000 !
It's called craftsmanship! But what I found incredible is that the
finished plate is apparently used
At 9:25 AM -0400 9/24/06, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 06:15 AM 9/24/06 -0700, Richard Yates wrote:
I thought it amazing that it took him ONLY eight hours to do that page with
those methods.
Yeah, amazing, but I thought it was more amazing that all that time &
talent & cash was being tossed
Michael Cook wrote:
The URL points to an 80 MB WMV file, so it might take a while to load:
I saved the file to my hard disk and it was well worth the wait. The
video was apparently made in 1997 and the engraver is just incredible.
Even with my fast connection (upwards of 5Mb/sec) it took a
Christopher Smith wrote:
I would say spacing is a big issue, too,
Engraving-quality results are nevertheless possible. It simply requires
manually spacing most (if not all) measures. Long slurs are not
possible: I know of no acceptable workaround, no matter how tedious.
--
Robert Patterson
On 9/23/06, Randolph Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you want to see music engraving done "old school," there is afascinating video at this URL.
That was just very cool to watch. Thank you so much for sharing that.
You know in the baroque, Telemann used to engrave some of his own music.
On Sep 24, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
I would argue that Finale (and possibly Sib) are already nearly
capable of it. The one remaining shortcoming is long slurs.
I would say spacing is a big issue, too, especially with lyrics, ties
and accidentals. Although in my work I se
This process was described very clearly (and in greater detail) in the
Ross book, but it is rewarding to see it.
Curiously, one aspect of engraving a computer may never be able to
emulate is the slight human imperfections that give hand-engraved scores
the charm of human touch. Other than this
And not to mention the fact that Finale (and later Sibelius) was available
since 1990 (?).
It seemed that they were using this method until 2000 !
Javier R.
> At 06:15 AM 9/24/06 -0700, Richard Yates wrote:
>> I thought it amazing that it took him ONLY eight hours to do that page with
>> those
At 06:15 AM 9/24/06 -0700, Richard Yates wrote:
>I thought it amazing that it took him ONLY eight hours to do that page with
>those methods.
Yeah, amazing, but I thought it was more amazing that all that time &
talent & cash was being tossed into old music again -- not to mention, ye
gads, working
> It certainly makes any hassles Finale throws our way pale by comparison
> -- 8 hours for a single page? Wow, I'd love to be able to bill my
> engraving clients for that much time, but I would certainly hate to have
> to spend that much time on a single page.
I thought it amazing that it took hi
Randolph Peters wrote:
If you want to see music engraving done "old school," there is a
fascinating video at this URL:
http://www.henle.de/video/vollversion/Notenstich_E.wmv
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The URL points to an 80 MB WMV file, so it might take a while to
load: I saved the file to my hard disk and it was well worth the
wait. The video was apparently made in 1997 and the engraver is just
incredible.
On 24 Sep 2006, at 05:56, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I started to open the URL, b
I started to open the URL, but it was taking so long, I gave up.
Maybe I'll relax and try again.
Dean
On Sep 23, 2006, at 7:10 PM, ThomaStudios wrote:
Absolutely fascinating!!
J D Thomas
ThomaStudios
On Sep 23, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Randolph Peters wrote:
If you want to see music engraving
Absolutely fascinating!!
J D Thomas
ThomaStudios
On Sep 23, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Randolph Peters wrote:
If you want to see music engraving done "old school," there is a
fascinating video at this URL:
http://www.henle.de/video/vollversion/Notenstich_E.wmv
-Randolph Peters
Astounding!
Chuck
On Sep 23, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Richard Yates wrote:
Great video. It makes our complaints seem petty and pathetic.
Richard Yates
http://www.henle.de/video/vollversion/Notenstich_E.wmv
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Great video. It makes our complaints seem petty and pathetic.
Richard Yates
> http://www.henle.de/video/vollversion/Notenstich_E.wmv
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If you want to see music engraving done "old school," there is a
fascinating video at this URL:
http://www.henle.de/video/vollversion/Notenstich_E.wmv
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