Re: Superbowl vrs riding

2006-02-06 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It has always amazed me the interest in football. I'm not a big fanbut watched yesterday for the Budweiser commercials. ok you have like,...how many guys are on a team..they all weigh a gazillion lbs..and they p

Re: eval presentations

2006-02-05 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark said: > unfortunantly showmanship does make a difference in evaluations too. I for one don't have the slightest idea how to show a horse in a evaluation, I know the pro's actually know how to shove the feet

Re: finally hit me

2006-02-04 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol, It finally hit me - why a DVD won't work! Sometimes the Evaluators have to feel the horse. I remember at one of the training seminars we were shown pictures of conformation faults - we saw a horse with a weird

Re:DVD Eval's

2006-02-03 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Pat, aside from losing out on the "fellowship" of a live Evaluation, what do > you think about the idea? -- Don't you agree that as Bob van Bon once > said - "The most important thing you ca

Re: dispelling rumors

2006-02-03 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:48:56 -0700 > From: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Dispelling a rumor Beth & Sandy, I was one who heard about the incident with Obey and Joe and was glad to he

Knowing horses personally & DVD evals

2006-02-01 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The breeder or trainer > can only tell you about the horses they've known personally. They don't > have a complete data base to work from. None of us have that, which is a > shame and it could be rect

Hostar & Anvil's Steinfinn & Ring

2006-01-29 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Marcy & Mike. Sorry,... Hostar is the ONLY STALLION left in North America by Brusvein. And Marcy I whole heartedly agree about "Ring", Kimpton Brook's Eiken Var - the "Solar&quo

Re: who determines the good ones AND new page on website

2006-01-29 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > First of all, I have a problem about who determines which stallions are the > good ones? -- This is really a serious concern for us in North > merica. -- Is it the Evaluation Program that determines everyt

Re: Erlands offspring and bloodlines that need preservation

2006-01-27 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After seeing him I must say if all MVF Erland babies are that nice- that is what I will be looking for down the road. Welcome to the list Sarah, Your right that Fjords come in different packages, and there are some blo

Re:horse vacations

2006-01-25 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >A friend and I have been talking about possibly taking some type of equine > >vacation together, and I find myself wondering how to evaluate all of the > >different options. Several of us in the Midwest

Re: Nation Wide Horse Transpot

2006-01-24 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > has anyone ever used Nation Wide Horse Transportation out of Colorado Springs? > please contact us privately for comment: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: gift of humor

2005-12-25 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Signs your Dressage needs more work: Under judges remarks she writes only: "Nice braid job". Horse confuses dressage arena rail for a cavaletti; exits at K Your circles shape reminds the judge that he should pi

Re: thinking on a VERY cold day

2005-12-07 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just got thinking while the temps here in northwestern Illinois is 20 below - Some of us Fjord ladies from the Midwest - ought to ask Santa (our husbands) to give us a vacation to Carol's for next summer - to spend a f

Re:selling horses privatly vrs auctions

2005-11-22 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Selling horses is a LOT of work,much more so then a lot > of people think. . Patti Jo hit the nail on the head - without sounding like Patti Jo and I are joined at the hip - we carry allot of the same philosophy - pe

Re: Boarding facilities

2005-11-15 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Terry, Your "dream" of owning and operating a boarding facility is certainly doable. I agree that first you do need to look into insurance. Mine is very expensive, over the years I have "tweaked" my cover

Re: No slight taken

2005-11-08 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am not slighting other trainers who have been mentioned on this list > who also have training programs No slight taken, Kathy - as a matter of fact, you and others on the list may be surprised to know there is k

Re: Reminder to stallion owners

2005-10-29 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All Just a reminder if you received the information packet about the Stallion Review at the NFHR 25th Anniversary Celebration - and have not returned the "Intent of Interest" form back to me - it is due by Novem

Re: trucks

2005-10-19 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've got a bumper pull 2-horse and I pull it with a 4x4 Dodge Ram with a > full-size back seat, a short box and a Hemi! If Kay speaks up about her vehicle I gu

Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #228

2005-10-10 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This post is from Linda Syverson-Kerr @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hello Group. > > I just got back from a 3 day tail ride in Dodge, WI. > > I took my Geldings Spruce Hill Marks and Hans Oka. This was Ha

Re:Stallion Review & 25th Anniversry

2005-10-06 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "Catherine lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Pat thanks for the heads up where and when is the stallion review? Catherine, You should receive a packet in the mail this week with t

Re: ATTENTION Please, ALL Fjord stallion owners

2005-10-04 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yesterday, a mailing for the "Stallion Review" portion of the 25th NFHR Anniversary Celebration was sent out via normal mail. This was an information packet with a form which we would like to have sent back

Re: More on Hans Oka

2005-10-04 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I personally think Hans is a SUPER FUN horse to ride. He is up for sale if > anyone is interested and has a GREAT foundation on him. A note of interest here, "Hans Oka" is a full brother to "SFF Ebba

Re: line breeding vrs in breeding

2005-09-25 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, I'll try in simplistic, layman's terms. There must be someone else on > the list who could explain scientifically. Can't say it scientifically but a wonderful old time breeder once told me: &q

Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #215

2005-09-23 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What does > this show about fjord behavior? Well, she didn't panic having taken a fall > and she was able to think fast enough to figure out how to turn the fall > into an opportunity to graze. Many years ago

Re:odd places to see Fjords

2005-08-31 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Talking about seeing Fjords in the AAA book. If any of you happen to be dairy farmers, live next to one, know oneonce drove past a dairy farm.(we are becoming rare)or just drink milk... : ) in the past

Re: opportunity for all

2005-08-30 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The preparations for the NFHR 25th Anniversary Celebration have begun. This is a perfect opportunity for those who have suggestions in regards to the aspects of running a show to step up and become involved. I have volunte

ReThank you

2005-08-27 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you to all who replied regarding safety issues at shows. Those of you who know me - understand how seriously I take all horse endeavors and I can assure you safety was my FIRST concern. I have to add one thing: THA

Re: Last impressions of Blue Earth

2005-08-24 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I really cannot sit by and leave the general public with the last impression of the 2005 MWFHC 20th Anniversary Show be that of how its been described by a few. I remember Bob Gudknecht driving his six up to Bob and Sally

Re: Grey filly of Linda's

2005-08-22 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am sorry for this post. > > I have listed my Grey Weanling Filly for sale. GLAD you did post her on the Digest Linda- heads up...THIS IS A GOOD FILLY. ..I bought the dam of this filly from Linda for Susan

Re: Blue Earth safety

2005-08-21 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have been told that the Blue Earth > and Libby shows are getting so big that the driving classes are becoming > hazardous due to lack of facilities/space to allow for safe classes, and > safe hitching and warm-

Re: La crosse evaluation

2005-08-11 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Since no one has stepped up to report anything on the Lacrosse Evaluation I would like to do so. First I would like to congratulate Linda Syverson-Kerr and John Gurtner. If they completed their driving tests like they did th

Re:lost phone at Blue Earth

2005-08-04 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If anyone FOUND a phone at Blue Earth we lost ours. Looked everywhere, called the hotel ...not there. What do you do when you've lost one? Gary said to call the phone company and what,...cancel the whole thing? Anyone

Re: Fjord Shows & little knowns

2005-08-03 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was glad to hear Lori's comments about the Finger Lakes show. Managing any event is difficult no matter how well organized we are prior to the show. Its good to hear another event is surviving and doing well. Lori men

Re: short people's photo proofs

2005-08-01 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > just finished sending Bob Mischka all of the exhibitor names, addresses > > and exhibitors numbers from the Blue Earth Show. He will be sending proofs > > out to all of you shorty. > > >

Re: Blue Earth Photographer Bob Mischka

2005-07-31 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just finished sending Bob Mischka all of the exhibitor names, addresses and exhibitors numbers from the Blue Earth Show. He will be sending proofs out to all of you shorty. Pat Holland

Re: age of Fjords

2005-07-31 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Everyone, > > How long do Fjords usually live? > > Vanessa > The good ones not long enough - the not so good ones too

Fw: Re:Blue Earth

2005-07-30 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message ----- From: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re:Blue Earth > First of all I hope all of you who came to Blue Earth arrived bac

Re:Blue Earth

2005-07-30 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> First of all I hope all of you who came to Blue Earth arrived back home safe and sound. Having the show and celebration over is bittersweet for me. I almost hated to see it end. I believe it was the best show we ever ha

Re: another thank you

2005-07-30 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would especially like to thank all of you who chose my daughter Robin for the "Friend of the Fjord Award" so kindly donated by Guy and Martha Martin. It was mentioned that she did all of the computer work. And

Blue Earth Results

2005-07-28 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20th Annual Upper Midwest Norwegian Fjord Horse Show Results 1. Weanling & Yearling Colts and Geldings 1.. Mike Jehlicka - Rokida's Torbjorn 2.. Curt Pierce - Plain Dealing's 2. Geldings 2 & 3 Year

Re: good conversations

2005-07-18 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I love reading the experiences like DeeAnna describes because without people coming into our organization, especially with that kind of attitude we would not have an organization to speak about. People like DeeAnna make up

Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #157

2005-07-17 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > pat, i consider that i placed in a class when i am in the same ring as i > started :) Kind of like golf...I am pleased when I finish the game with the same ball I started with.

Re: Rooms at Blue earth

2005-07-16 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have been getting messages that some of the rooms at Blue Earth at the AmericInn have been lost in the system somehow. Those of you whom made reservations after last years show should call and make sure your reservations

Re: Pulling into Blue Earth next week & a few reminders/updates

2005-07-16 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why don't you just do what we do when totally out of room, Pat ? Just > tie the extra stuff to the hood or bumper. > > Lisa Lisa, I'm looking forward to seeing you all pull

Re: canter requirment

2005-07-14 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > pat, i have to laugh! last year, when i was SO nervous and new to EVERYthing, > i asked you (shyly) if it would be OK to trot in western pleasure. you told > me i HAD to canter Laurie, I think I meant you had to

Re: attention help for Blue Earth

2005-07-13 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am asking if there is anyone who is coming to the Blue Earth show could bring two sets of jump standards and four poles to use in the hunter hack classes and one driving class.. I cannot get another thing in my trailers

Re:don't worry

2005-07-12 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you all see me in the trail class dropping the rope gate, or > having to trot the figure 8, i know that it will be a victory for us > regardless. last year i trotted the barrels, perhaps this year we will canter.

Re: Blue Earth countdown & Friends of the Fjord Award

2005-07-10 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We are two weeks from the 20th Anniversary MWFHC Show in Blue Earth. Blue Earth Central has now grown from my dining room table, my kitchen counters, to the living room and lately to the bedroom as well, (as in boxes stored

Re: Horse Progress Days & Rich & Mike

2005-07-05 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rich Hotovy (Michigan) and Mike Sadlon (Indiana) each had 2 Fjord gelding > there that they used in the field demos. Thank you Joe for bringing up the subject of The Horse Progress Days. Some of us - myself inclu

Re: Opps....and the Blue Earth Show packet

2005-06-22 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It was brought to my attention I made a mistake on the show packet sent to many of you On the class schedule the three cones classes for driving are Gamblers Choice, Pick Your Route and Double Jeopardy - but in the class

Re: a little brag

2005-06-19 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Although I've bragged up other people's horses many times, I don't think I've done so with mine. Yesterday my daughter, Robin took Pine's Edge Ivan, the one and only Fjord I personally own to her F

Re: starting Fjords at three

2005-06-17 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nancy, I agree that you should wait until they are coming three. But I am a big believer that they should have daily handling (tied, feet picked, groomed, leading, manners) and you can start ground driving them as long year

Re: gray & red

2005-06-09 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> what can you get from breeding a Gray dun and a Red > dun . I say you get purple. Pat

Re: Solar

2005-06-09 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Carol, So far you have described this son of Solar, except for the height. He is very gentle. I am trying to do everything with him, to get him ready for the evaluation and it amazes me that a horse, especially

Re: Holly - Solar daughter

2005-06-06 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol Is this the same Holly that is a daughter of Solar? And isn't Holly the dam of John Arthur and Magnum that Beth Beymer did/does so much with? The reason I'm asking is I have a Solar son - Kimpton Broo

Re: BDF Kanada King frozen semen

2005-05-24 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Penny was very upset over Kings death. He was more to her than any of us can imagine. I do know she has frozen semen from him and the last I heard she does have foals on the ground from it. Pat

Re:Blue Earth Show Packet

2005-05-23 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The 2005 Blue Earth Show Packet went out in the mail today. For MWFHC members the election ballots were included. If you have a family membership please make a copy of the ballot as I only put one in each packet. You can re

Re:Braveheart

2005-05-19 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BRAVEHEART who was sired by her stallion, BDF MALCOLM > LOCKE. (Gjest x Stine) -- I can attest to the beauty of "Braveheart", as he was stalled next to my horses at Blue Earth last year. Actually he was sta

Re: thanks Gwenn

2005-05-19 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:42:34 -0400 > From: "Gwenn Beaupre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: le chevel canadienne Thank you Gwenn for your input on the Cheval. I've received several ass

Re:Volunteer of the year award - In Theory

2005-05-18 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just my assumption but I think Sophie was just trying to make a point that in HER opinion Phil deserved a Volunteer Award of some sort. Interesting thought process on her part and got me to thinking as I am putting together

Re: Not Fjord - but interesting

2005-05-17 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I recently was sent an 8 yr old Chavaux Canadian gelding to freshen up on his training and to sell for his owner. I am not familiar to this breed, if anyone out there is, please reply to me personally. I was told it i

Re: Blue Earth Show packet

2005-05-17 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If all goes well the packet should be going out this week. I have it all done and was just waiting on the mailing labels, which I got today. I just have to pack it all in the envelopes and s hopefully by next w

Re: you got it, Carol

2005-04-29 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have to think > that what she had in mind are Fjords being shown in false collection (head > tucked in), and showing "flashy movement" not out of athletic ability, but > more out of nerves. -- If

Re: blue vrs red

2005-04-28 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The evaluation system as it is designed is made up of MANY components. Nine to be exact in the conformation test and the Type component is given a double value. Sometimes ONE component alone will make the composite score l

Re:Rokida's Niklaus

2005-04-27 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Nik received 6's and 7's in his movement Patti - Actually Nik received 7.75 in both the walk and trot component of the conformation test. But I agree with all you said in regards to Nik, couldn't

Re:Midwest Horse Fair - Madison Wi

2005-04-13 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Those of you in the Midwest planning to attend the Midwest Horse Fair in Madison this week end might like to know the Fjord Demos are Saturday at 11:25 AM and Sunday at 10:10 AM - we will all be stalled in Barn 1 st

Re: more information - on information on a horse

2005-04-11 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The brand on the horse is actually a K on the left shoulder and in addition there is a V on the RIGHT rear hip which I didn't see before. He was purchased out of a place called EJ's Equestrian Center in Turlo

Re: help on information on a horse

2005-04-11 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am asking all of you for possible information on a gelding I have in for training. He is owned by a couple here in the Midwest and his history is sketchy. He is not registered in NFHR. He is 11 yrs old, brown dun, 14

Re: Good mare for sale

2005-03-24 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have in my barn right now a very nice 8 yr old mare - imported from Holland, for sale - she's 14 hd brown dun and by the stallion HALSTOR out of the Elite mare JASMIJN Her name is Sylvia - imported a weanling. HALSTO

Re: Intuition

2005-03-16 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There's a new book out called "Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking" by Malcom Gladwell. I am bringing this up because recently I've had some private conversations with GOOD instinctual horse

Re:Fjord vrs Haflinger

2005-03-10 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just sold a Fjord and a Haflinger to one client. Both were geldings Both were 14 hands Both were of the draft type Both had lots of mileage Both were very well behaved Both rode solid, calm and predictable Both had good

Re: Catherine - EXCELLENT comment

2005-03-06 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Catherine, You hit the nail on the head. I've had several older Fjords come to me for training. I always start from scratch and soon figure out where the earlier training basics lacked or was skipped over entirely

Re:wolf teeth

2005-03-03 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you take the wolf teeth out when they are young, as it shoudl be it is not an issue - if you leave them in they develope hugh roots and they are difficult to remove. My Vet just left this morning taking wolf teeth out of

Re: naming Fjords

2005-02-25 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I can't let the discussion of the names we put on our horses without telling the story of "Kramer". When I worked for Green Valley Farm we imported four different times - I felt it was important I transport t

Re: MWFHC Winter Meeting

2005-02-23 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Apparently everyone is recuperating from the week end - so I'll step up and report a bit about our Midwest Fjord Horse Club Winter Meeting and Clinic in Winona, Mn this past week end. It was very well attended, a bit

Re:Something to think about

2005-02-10 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For several years now in the big money breeds such as the warmblood market Some U.S. breeders are starting a campaign so to speak about "buying American bred" - at the Olympics - out of 13 horses on the US Team

Re: buying a Fjord

2005-02-09 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > How do you all go about buying? Reena- First and most important decide what it is YOU want from this horse your buying, a show prospect, a breeding prospect, a family trail horse, or all of the above. Do you prim

Re: manes, Blue Earth & Fiskars

2005-02-02 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've had several horses come to me with manes completely grown over - I mean totally like a normal horse's - I have not roached any - I can't as they are not here long enough to have it grow back and look nice

Re: age & a good book

2005-02-01 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At age 64, I am somewhat reluctant to ride a green horse, Rondi - I would have never known you were 64! Not that - that is old by any means, but the way you speak and the conversations we've had privately I wouldn&

Re: Riding with age and a good horse

2005-01-31 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a wonderful client right now. She is 70 and he is 73. They contacted me awhile ago about finding a couple of solid nice riding Fjords for their home use. She came from a horse world many years ago and as life leads us

Re: Don't ever say it can't be done

2005-01-25 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> With the MWFHC 20th Anniversary I, with the approval of our Executive Committee, started working on corporate sponsorships. Today I just received sponsorship from Fiskars Brand, Inc. The scissors we all use! You would not be

Re: Record Book -

2005-01-24 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you Sandy for explaining the process of which a record Book is produced. I did not know that the BOD said it would support the project but it would only print the number of books that were pre-ordered. When one "

Re: full circle with bloodlines

2005-01-24 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sophie You are far to modest in what you present as the gene pool you and Howard brought to North America. Besides the Rei Halsnaes and Plutonikk lines. You carry the bloodlines of Ernarson which is even more rare, not to

Florida meeting & still about pedigrees

2005-01-21 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know what happened at the Florida 'face-to-face' Board Member meeting? Could you share information. Like is Neil still our President and who all got on the board? After some thought - on the subject

Re: importance of pedigrees

2005-01-20 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am a firm believer in Pedigrees - There is nothing nicer after you have trained and worked with a stallion and know him well, then train and work with a mare and know her well - then their bred, and you get to start all

Re: bloodlines

2005-01-18 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know you all think Patti and I are starting our own community - but I do have to agree with her. Big time.. I know if someone comes to me looking for a horse for themselves and they need something calm - or its for thei

Re: humor on a cold day

2005-01-15 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The "Chronicle of the Horse" has an online survey. They asked not what New Year's resolutions they might be thinking of making, but what resolutions they hoped their horses would adopt. How they voted: (99 r

Re: Fjord cartoons

2005-01-12 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A couple days ago Cynthia Madden remarked how she could see cartoons made from some of the stories we hear on the Digest. Many years ago Patti Jo Walter suggested trying to do a book - something along the lines of t

Re: the $23,000 Fjord

2005-01-04 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For those of you whom get the MWFHC Newsletter there is a great article written by Patti Jo Walter about the filly Arianna - whom she raffled off this past summer for her 4-H group. The dynamics of what Patti did with her

Re: good to hear from Sue G

2005-01-03 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is Sue Giargiari in Brimfield, MA... Sue, Its good to hear your written word again.Thanks for sharing your good stories. Pat Holland

Re The Fjord that only walked or trotted

2004-12-17 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Someone not to long ago mentioned a Fjord for sale that had somesort of problem that - maybe it only walked, or something like that - does anyone remember? They were looking for a good home for him/hercould that person p

Re: another nice gelding for sale

2004-12-07 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sending home another gelding - on the 18th - which is for sale. His name is SFF Nils. He is 9 years old and by Anvil's Torbjorn - The wonderful old stallion Rich and Nancy Hotovy owned and unfortunately died

The Five People You Meet In Heaven

2004-12-07 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did any of you catch the Fjord in the movie on (I think NBC) Sunday night - "The Five People You Meet In Heaven"...? It was in the beginning - when the main character was back at the amusement park with his Fat

Re: dental problems

2004-11-29 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Has anyone learned how to evaluate horse manure for dental problems? If you find balled up masses of soft hay in your horses mouth or sometimes you'll find them in the feed bucket, it means your horse has sharp m

Re:The Gjest sons

2004-11-23 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Might be a good time to remember Kanada King, He really was a neat horse - can't remember how high he got in ridden dressage - at least 3rd level training 4th - but I think Penny had him near or at Advanced in CDE

too old to train

2004-11-13 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is eighteen to old to train? Can I help this girl? I always was under the impression there was a "window of opportunity" when training horses - at a certain age so to speak. I was sent 3 - 8 year old geldin

Re: Genius is not normal

2004-11-11 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am an avid fan of The Chronicle of the Horse and in the last issue the editor John Strassburger wrote the following commentary. I guess I can't write it exactly as written - but the gist of the article goes like

Re: MWFHC 20th Anniversary T-shirts

2004-10-28 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We are in the process of having a special T-Shirt made for our 20th Anniversary Blue Earth Show. Dawn Woolever - (now Schlickman) will be making the shirts with a special 20th Anniversary Logo on good quality t-shirt (Beefy

The mare Una

2004-10-17 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I believe Jane said she had a gelding for sale with the mare "Una" as grandmother. "Una" was - is a very beautiful mare evaluated I believe in 2000 and received an 86.75 it was the same year the really n

Re: racing the cold

2004-10-15 Thread Pat Holland
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is the list really off the air or people just too busy or is my computer off? > Jean Gayle > I've been trying to beat the clock on

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