This message is from: Amy Evers
>any ideas as to how to at least pitch a few lines to
protect the young & innocent??
Whatever you say, try saying it quietly and with tact. If you don't meet with
an answer that is to your approval, let it drop. Say you tried and call it
good.
Nothing worse tha
e been
>nice, or effective - any ideas as to how to at least pitch a few lines to
>protect the young & innocent??
Yes - SAY SOMETHING!!!
>Helmet Hair Deb
>
>in NW WA
>
>> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:00:29 -0700
>> From: sarahmagdalencla...@yahoo.com
>> Subject:
This message is from: Lola Lahr
Thanks for the good laugh! I loved your "diagnosis"!
On 10/21/09, bry...@together.net wrote:
>
> This message is from: bry...@together.net
>
> .
> A few years back, I saw a cowboy type clinician. He had a cowboy hat
> (clinic was inside), chinks, boots and a big
This message is from: Cynthia Madden
OK, I do have one more comment:
When we were forming Zia Carriage Driving Club, we had a big debate about
requring helmets. We put in our membership form that all under age 18 would
wear helmets whenever horses were present,. We continued to discuss the
issue
This message is from: Linda Lottie
well said Cynthia..I have the same requirement at my farm. No one has
ever refused.
Linda in WI
"Adoption
Loss is the only trauma in the world where the victims are expected by
the whole of society to be grateful" - The Reverend Keith C. Griff
This message is from: Cynthia Madden
One last comment from me, actually two!
1) No one gets in one my carts or rides one of horses with a helmet (and I
will provide them one). It is the option of my guest if they don't want to
participate.
2). Gail, I understand completely what you say and I can'
This message is from: "coy...@acrec.com"
...I was sort of hoping that the "scalp must move" rule
could be avoided...
I could use high school physics (for example KE = 1/2*m*V^^2) to
explain, but the bottom line is this: the closer your skull is to the
compressive cushioning, the better. The
This message is from: Barbara
Greetings from Middleage Spread,
Nine years ago when we bought our two fjords we did not
know any thing about horses or how to ride. We hired a
trainer and were told by both the trainer and the stable
owner where we were
This message is from: "jerry friz"
Lisa,
I am with you 100 percent, yes, I have seen the fools with no helmuts die.
Jerry.
I live in Pure Cowboy Country. NOBODY here wears a helmet, nobody except
myself and my kids. >
I conti
This message is from: "plumg...@pon.net"
I was sort of hoping that the "scalp must move" rule
could be avoided if one had a helmet that came down
over the back of the neck...like the Tipperary. My
theory is the more encompassing shape of the
Tipperary means the helmet stays in place better.
The
This message is from: "Lisa"
I live in Pure Cowboy Country. NOBODY here wears a helmet, nobody except
myself and my kids. We are ridiculed quite often for wearing helmets, but I
won't budge. I grew up with a very ornery pony that bucked me off
constantly -- this was back in New England, every
This message is from: Cynthia Madden
I am going to chime in here because I feel so strongly about helmets. Many
of you know Tank and how extremely unexcitable he is. However, I was riding
Tank (the last time I have ridden bareback) several years ago when he
spooked and I slam dunked off of him on
This message is from: "Beth"
I had a very similar experience and ended up with a concussion.. at that
time I didn't wear a helmet...( back in the seventys..) However from that
day on I have worn a helmet and no one rides here without one.. no helmet no
ride.. So far no one has argued with me
This message is from: Starfire Farm
plumg...@pon.net wrote:
A person on this list (who can pipe up if she wants
to) started wearing a helmet after the day that she
was riding in a Buck Branaman clinic. The horses
were lined up at a standstill in front of Buck, and
Buck was teaching how to get
This message is from: "plumg...@pon.net"
HmmmI wonder what that instructor would say after
being sued for the cost of caring for an invalid for
the rest of their life. A contingency-only lawyer
would love that set of facts.
Someone on another list wrote to the Parellli
organization and got
This message is from: Lola Lahr
If you have good insurance and make a choice that results in your using it
in the way Robin describes, you are driving up the cost of health insurance
for the rest of us too. That also is unfair.
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Lola Lahr wrote:
> Amen Robin
This message is from: Lola Lahr
Amen Robin
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Robin Churchill wrote:
> This message is from: Robin Churchill
>
> I guess if you have good insurance, including long-term care insurance then
> it is your business whether you wear a helmet or not. Unfortunately
This message is from: Robin Churchill
I guess if you have good insurance, including long-term care insurance then it
is your business whether you wear a helmet or not. Unfortunately most people
who get a serious head injury don't seem to have planned on needing medical
care for the rest of the
This message is from: Lola Lahr
The manufacturers, as well as outside experts, recommend replacing helmets
within 5 years of manufacture. The materials naturally break down and after
5 years may not hold up in an accident. Helmets should also be replaced
after every incident (any hard blow to t
This message is from: Karen McCarthy
Not trying to say the Tippperary is the 'only' way to go helmet-wise, but they
do offer a couple of foam shims which velcro in.
(( My head must be "perfect" as I didn't require them ;~))
Kmac...
:: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon ::
This message is from: "jerry friz"
Hi List,
What I have found in helmets--- Each manufacture, makes different
shapes, uses different materials. So, what might fit me would not fit
you.
I always buy mine in a shop where I can try several on.
I find with a lot of use they only las
This message is from: Sarah Clarke
Just adding my voice to the pro-helmet crowd.
It is a miniscule
> investment compared to the cost of brain injury/damage, or worse yet,
death.
AGREED, AND ON MY HEALTH PLAN A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM COSTS $75.00, $100
IF THEY ADMIT. MORE THAN A HELMET (E
This message is from: Lola Lahr
My Tipperary Sportage literally saved my noggin (as KMac puts it ;-) a
> couple of years ago. I came out of it with a few minutes if unconsciousness,
> a bruise on my head, an incredible rayed crack pattern on the outside shell,
> and a horrifying set of cracks in
it and will use it when doing ground work (and riding) from
now on.
Bonnie MacCurdy,
Visalia, CA103 degrees and rising
- Original Message -
From: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: Helmets
This message is f
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Helmet brand and style really does make a difference to the comfort of the
helmet. I had one that I thought fit me well, but it did not. I had bought
one that was too small in order to keep it from falling off because it was
not shaped wel
arah Clarke
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:20 AM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: Helmets
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I agree with Mike, ASTM/SEI certification is a must. (Unless they are
certified they carry a warning label that says something like &
ot;Emily Wigley"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Helmets
> This message is from: Emily Wigley
>
> Our daughter, almost 15 years, says about wearing helmets: "If you think
> your hair style is more important than your brain, it probably is."
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 04:45 PM 6/27/2007, you wrote:
This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Our daughter, almost 15 years, says about wearing helmets: "If you
think your hair style is more important than your brain, it probably
tion is
important to me. Thanks in advance for your opinions.
Bonnie MacCurdy
Visalia, CA---HOT
- Original Message -
From: "Emily Wigley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Helmets
This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EM
, June 27, 2007 3:45 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: Helmets
Emily, flat haired today and proud of it!
:-)
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This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Our daughter, almost 15 years, says about wearing helmets: "If you
think your hair style is more important than your brain, it probably
is." Suffice it to say that we simply wear helmets, in and out of
the saddle (and cart., although
This message is from: "Shannon Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I always tell my students that the people that don't wear helmets while
riding, don't have any brains to protect. ;)
Have a GREAT Fjord summer
Shannon
www.ChehalemMountainRanch.com
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In a message dated 8/17/2002 6:56:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
writes:
> My daughter has gone to Germany to be a foreign exchange student for a
> semester. She is taking riding lessons while there. It was her biggest hope
> was that she
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Well Fred you are a living, (thank God) example of what we are talking
about. Mend quickly. Jean
Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Send $20
Three H
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In a message dated 8/14/2002 6:20:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
writes:
> Bent, but mending.
>
>
>
> Fred
>
Oh Fred, I'm sorry you got hurt. But very glad you were indeed wearing your
helmet. Now you need to get a new one to repl
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Robyn, just a further note on the rubber band safety stirrups. They were no
problem when riding or dismounting etc for me. One day, however, I was
going at a fast trot in my field when my Howdy tripped and went down on his
knees. This threw
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 8/14/2002 4:58:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL
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writes:
> One other thing - safety stirrups - in the past we used peacock stirrups
> (the ones with the rubber band on one side) they work great as far as not
> letting
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I totally agree with you Pam. I know the revelation on helmets came to me
when my 5 year old niece went off her event pony and hit the ring fence post.
There was a horrible crack when helmet met post and I later took the helmet
to the hospital where they
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 8/13/2002 8:42:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I endorse helmets every time, every event. There's a national law for
> wearing seatbelts.
I am with you. I always wear a helmet. All it takes is one time and
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
thank you catherine, i wear it all the time and now in turlock. can't
wait!! have been starting to practice some of the "events" with quinn.
shh!!! don't want to pre-clue the competition. yeah, right!! ;~)
denise
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This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Carol--
Wednesday, September 27, 2000, you wrote:
> Not to sound morbid, but I can't think of a better way to go than
> when I am riding my horse. I do not wear a helmet and never plan to.
I have heard the argument from friends who refus
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 9/27/00 7:32:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Also I forgto to add that New York has taken the initiative to make it a
law
that EVERONE under the age of 18 must wear an ASTM-SEI appoved helmet when
mounted.
This message is from: "Denise's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
dear anneli,
do you mean like a bullet proof vest or the type of vests the bull riders
wear? the soldiers call them flak jackets. also kevlar jackets. (made out
of kevlar) denise
- Original Message -
From: "Anneli Sundkvist" <[EMAIL P
This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
There was a story/article written by a mom who's young daughter was killed at
one of the saddle seat shows. Was very sad, they sold all of their horses, even
though they'd always been a part of their lives. This child was on a very
trustworthy,
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carol,
I have met many people who feel as you do about not wearing helmets and put
forth the very same argument, I refute this argument by pointing out the many
cases of people who have head injuries and don't die but become vegetable
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 10:36 AM 9/27/00 -0400, you wrote:
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 9/27/00 7:32:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Also I forgto to add that New York has taken the initiative to make it a
la
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 9/27/00 11:24:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>
> I was told that it was anyone under 14 who had to wear a helmet. This
> affects my pony party affairs. Which age is it? Merek
>
The article I read said age
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The waistcoats are called vests or body armor here. There has been some
contrversy about them. Pony Club was going to require them for eventing, but
they are/were expensive and at the time of discussion were not ASTM-SEI
approved. Alot of the kids ride
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also I forgto to add that New York has taken the initiative to make it a law
that EVERONE under the age of 18 must wear an ASTM-SEI appoved helmet when
mounted. Many other states are following this upcoming year with the same
legislation.
Kate in CT
mom
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Mary,
Thanks for sharing your story. I wear my helmet everytime I drive and ride
outside the arena but I have to admit, I don't wear it in the arena where I
have a greater comfort level. All our accidents have been outside but the
best would be to wear
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mary - I'm SO glad you are ok! Thanks for the helmet reminder. Love ya!
Ann
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
here's another helmet story. i wear mine all the time now. i was working
quinn in the round pen at a trot doing figure eights, with quick turns to
the left and right at the wall. he has a tendency toward laziness on turns
and just in ge
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Whew, Mary, that was way too close and totally unpredictable. I have noted
young horses run to you while older ones try to avoid you and especially not
to step on you as it is not "firm" footing. Yet when they start that
uncontrolled run the
I put on my helmet for my morning ride."<
>
>Pamela
Reena
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Helmets
>This message is from: [EMAIL
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In a message dated 11/19/98 14:25:45 Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< My daughter, Peggy-Lynne, died at age 26 of a head injury after 11 years
of suffering. WEAR HELMETS. >>
I'm so sorry :( I think your post says it all, and I'll
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 11/19/98 7:27:31 Pacific Standard Time,
Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< If an adult conciously chooses not to wear a helmet, that's their lookout.
But what I have a real problem with are those irresponsible adults who
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