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kathy kramer has a grey that looks purple to me. he is a funny horse. he
loves to lick jim sverson-kerrs head.
jo
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And then there is my mare Anvil's Adel: Registered in canada as a white dun,
she
is very white with no real stripe in her mane, but she does have scattered BLACK
hairs in her mane and tail! So is she a yellow dun? or a white dun with a few
scatter
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On 7/10/12 10:05 AM, Olivia Farm, Inc. wrote:
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc."
For anyone interested and who doesn't know already, the White Dun
color is caused by the cremello gene.
On one of our trips to Norway we saw a stallion who was registe
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc."
Hello,
For anyone interested and who doesn't know already, the White Dun
color is caused by the cremello gene. All this does is lighten the coat color
in Fjords. Unlike grey duns and red duns where you need a pair of genes to
get the resulting color,
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter"
Jean is 100% correct, The white duns are not pure white, Ulsbakk or as we
say white duns actually is translated "color of sheep" like cream or wool.
Sootheir body is not pure white but the white star IS pure white
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This message is from: Jean Ernest
In looking up the pedigrees of all the white duns in the NFHR I noticed that
every one of them traced back (to two) >>>>>Also very interesting is the
increasing populari
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brian and Ursula, I looked at your website and your new white dun stallion.
In looking up the pedigrees of all the white duns in the NFHR I
noticed that every one of them traced back to Ola Gik N-11703 and
Flikka N-13310 (white dun)
This message is from: David Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ruthie wrote:
It may not necessarily be a white dun that is the carrier, but
could very well be a brown dun. (as the white FJ is essentially a brown,
plus a copy of the cream gene, hope I got that right--color theory is not my
forte') I guess
ack to Faksi, a yellow dun daughter of Line.
Hog Solvar also goes back to Faksi through Viljar Brim
And of course there are all those Stina/Leidjo offspring, white duns and
"yellows", altho I still don't know what to call Anvil's Adel who looks
like a yellow, but has scattered black
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This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Well, I just checked the pedigree of every white dun we currently have
on the property, and every one has Ola Gik in its background.
Beth
I WOULD say that is a very important obs
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briar hill farm wrote:
>It's interesting to notice that most of the ulsblakk Fjords in the US
>have Kviten in their pedigree, if not, his sire Ola Gik. Are their any
>breeding ulsblakk in the US that don't carry these lines?
>Just wonderin
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Hello,
Thanks to all of you posting with compliments on our new white filly Silva.
Marcy at Briar Hill Farm posted an interesting question about the pedigrees on
white duns in North America, so I thought I wou
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I have two beautiful white dun fillies for sale. One is a 2-year-old,
and one is a yearling. They are full sisters, by Gingard (by Astrix, a ster
stallion out of an elite mare) and out of Lakita (by Modellen). These girls
are really beautiful!
n) has been the most popular for a long time already.
The text also says especially older Fjords may have a color which is
hard to define as it changes from season to season. They may look like
white duns when they have a short coat and like brown duns in the
winter. People also said Solkungen 882
This message is from: "briar hill farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have a Modellen son; FG Kvitten, a tall ulsblakk gelding, out of Lin.
"Vitters" was owned by Chelle Sherman who some of you may remember, was
editor of the Herald before Sally. Chelle had Vitters in training for
dressage work, but sadl
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> At 06:17 PM 5/24/99 -0800, you wrote:
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> >Bonnie,
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> >P
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Hi List,
I goofed when I said that "uls dun" translates to wool dun. I meant to
say that "ulsblakk" translates to "wool dun" or "
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At 03:44 PM 5/25/99 -0700, you wrote:
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I find this a bit incredible!! WHY did we translate it to mean "white
dun" in the first place, when it does not? Ulsdun, as expla
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi List,
I goofed when I said that "uls dun" translates to wool dun. I meant to
say that "ulsblakk" translates to "wool dun" or "wool colored". The
rest of the comment stands though. I think we brought on the "color
controversy" by mistr
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--- "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> No this horse is registered as an albino. A white
> dun has a black stripe
> and sometimes some zebra s
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Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 2:37 PM
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"whites' ever
clean?) but it sure shows the blue eyes and pink nose.
AND it really proves what they found out about breeding two white duns to
each other...You get a blue eyed white! And I bet Sponenberg would call
this a cremello or maybe a smokey cream or perlino. I'd sure
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At 06:17 PM 5/24/99 -0800, you wrote:
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Bonnie,
Phillip Sponenberg, who you say is a friend of yours, wrote an article on
"Color in Fjord horses" for the Fjord Herald, Issue
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At 02:46 PM 5/24/99 +, you wrote:
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Hi Mike:
Well, I don't know how they call them in the Fjord family - I don't know if
the Fjord has a classification for "white" oth
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"B. Hendricks" wrote:
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> Hi:
> I'm not sure what a "Merle" is... my dog was a blue/black and white
> Australian Shepherd
You had a "Blue Merle"
Mark
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bonnie,
Phillip Sponenberg, who you say is a friend of yours, wrote an article on
"Color in Fjord horses" for the Fjord Herald, Issue #21/22, winter /Spring
1992. Perhaps Mike has it handy and could copy it and put it on the NFHR
website. Sp
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Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 10:22 PM
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> This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Bonnie,
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> I a
favor because when they bred
two white duns to each other the result was often a BLUE EYED WHITE, which
is what this "albino" sounds like. I do have an article from the Small
Farmers Journal a number of years ago that tells about this era in
Fjordhorse breeding. I'll look it up and
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> "B. Hendricks" wrote:
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> This message is from: "Mike
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"B. Hendricks" wrote:
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> This also occurs in other animals (lethal white) and quite often in
> Australian Shepherd dogs, where if the white pups do survive, they are
> either blind or deaf or both.
This only happens when two M
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At 09:51 AM 5/24/99 +, you wrote:
This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Did you know that the albino does not exist in the horse? What people call
albinos in horses are simply white horses. When albinism
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At 07:41 AM 5/24/99 -0800, you wrote:
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At 09:43 AM 5/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
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>Modellen has 27 Brown Dun, 18 White Dun & 1
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 12:39 PM 5/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
Speaking of Modellen, did I hear he passed away? Is this true? Anyone
know what happened?
Yes it is true. He died from a colic from what I have heard.
ding Appaloosas and Paints, where too
many white genes combine to produce lethal white. It happens much more often
than is realized, as the foals die in the uterus and are absorbed.
Just thought I'd toss two cents in. I'd like to see more photos of the white
duns in the Fjord. Its certainly i
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Dear Jean, Thanks for the info, We just purchased a white dun recently named
MVF Sara. She is a 2nd premium imported from Norway. Her Sire is Garjo
(sire Hovdaren-Dam Bjorka) and her Dam is Siri ( Sire Norden, Dam Freia) She
is super white with dark mu
this..He was really a nice stallion.
>
>It is also interesting to note that while looking at this date I noticed
>that only Modellen has ever sired more than 2 White Dun's.
In Canada, Orville and Anita Unrau's stallion Leidjo (N1945)(C370) who was
imported from Norway has sired at l
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At 07:56 AM 5/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
How many white offspring does Modellen have now? Modellen is distantly
related to Line and Stella by the way.
Modellen has 27 Brown Dun, 18 Whit
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At 01:08 PM 5/23/99 -0400, you wrote:
This message is from: "Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have been away most of this month, but just saw the question about
Modellen and white duns. M
This message is from: "Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have been away most of this month, but just saw the question about
Modellen and white duns. Modellen produced about 25% white. I have one,
Solven, who is a tall 15.1, and a Modellen grandson, Brisk, who is three an
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I can list most of the white duns(and/or yellows?) related to Mary
Thurman's Line and my mare Stella:
Stella's offspring: Anvil's Stina and Anvil's Solvaktig(no stripe)
Stina's offspring:
Anvils Edderkopp (bla
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
About color: There is a good article in the Fjord Herald, Issues #21/22,
Winter/Spring, l992 by D. Phillip Sponenberg, DVM,PhD "Color in Fjord
Horses" which explains the genetics.
Sponenberg also has two books on the subject, HORSE COL
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Hi everybody ... thanks for all the interesting input about the
brands!
Now I have another question or two. I have never seen a white dun
(ulsblakk), but it looks like it is a lovely color. Is the white dun
simply a paler shade of bro
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