RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
Lee Elliott wrote: > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:16 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > Hello all, > > I'm trying to use a ballistic sub-model to simulate a bomb > but the parent > a/c's speed and pitch etc

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
Vivian Meazza wrote: > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:33 AM > To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > Lee Elliott wrote: > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:16 PM >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-16 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 16 September 2004 18:08, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Vivian Meazza wrote: > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:33 AM > > To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' > > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > &g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
They shouldn't inherit accelerations. Ampere On September 16, 2004 01:08 pm, Vivian Meazza wrote: > There are some other basic shortcomings as well: the submodel doesn't > inherit the parent accelerations, or the velocities and accelerations due > to roll, pitch and yaw. Only release droptanks wh

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:12 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > They shouldn't inherit accelerations. > > Ampere > > On September 16,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:56:42 +0100, Vivian wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ampere K. Hardraade wrote > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:12 PM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:03 AM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:56:42 +0100, Vivian wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-17 Thread Josh Babcock
Vivian Meazza wrote: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:12 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model They shouldn't inherit accelerations. Ampere On September 16, 2004 01:08 pm, Vivian Meazza wrote:

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Josh Babcock wrote: > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:41 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > Vivian Meazza wrote: > > Ampere K. Hardraade wrote > > > > > >>Sent

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-17 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 17 September 2004 16:09, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:03 AM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > > > > On Fri, 17 S

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Lee Elliott wrote: > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:57 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > On Friday 17 September 2004 16:09, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:09:12 +0100, Vivian wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:03 AM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model &

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:47 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:09:12 +0100, Vivian wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 18 September 2004 10:14, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Lee Elliott wrote: > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:57 PM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > > On Friday 17 Septembe

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Lee Elliott > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:03 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > On Saturday 18 September 2004 10:14, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > Lee Elliott wrote: > > > S

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 18 September 2004 15:44, Vivian Meazza wrote: [snip...] > > It's just occurred to me that I'm using my local version, so it's possible > that I haven't asked Erik to upload one of the multitude of files it > requires to alter one parameter, or there's something wrong with the files > I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: It's just occurred to me that I'm using my local version, so it's possible that I haven't asked Erik to upload one of the multitude of files it requires to alter one parameter, or there's something wrong with the files I sent in. It's definitely OK here with your model. I'll ch

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:44 PM > To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > ... Snip ... > > > Hmm... It's just occurred to me that although my cvs is up to >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 18 September 2004 19:05, Vivian Meazza wrote: > I wrote > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:44 PM > > To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' > > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic > > sub-model > > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 18 September 2004 19:05, Vivian Meazza wrote: > I wrote > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:44 PM > > To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' > > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic > > sub-model > > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 18 September 2004 23:06, Lee Elliott wrote: > On Saturday 18 September 2004 19:05, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > I wrote > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:44 PM > > > To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' > > > Subject: RE:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Lee Elliott
t; > > To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' > > > > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic > > > > sub-model > > > > > > > > > > > > ... Snip ... > > > > > > > > > Hmm... It's ju

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:21:13 +0100, Vivian wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:47 PM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Lee Elliott
lsen wrote: > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:03 AM > > > > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > > > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic > > > > > sub-model > > > > > > > > &g

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Lee Elliott wrote: > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:06 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > On Saturday 18 September 2004 19:05, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > I wrote > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Horst J. Wobig
Lee Elliott wrote: ---snip If it wasn't for the fact that the same model works for you I'd suspect I'd got something wrong in the set-up. How do I fire the cannon in the Spitfire? I can't see a key-mapping anywhere. I suppose I could fire it via the property browser but that just makes me feel ev

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Frederic Bouvier
> Hmm... (part 2) > > Just tried firing the Spitfire cannon via the property browser > and while I could hear the cannon firing I couldn't see anything > leaving the a/c. > > Could a library version mismatch cause this? > > There must be a problem at this end because it works for you on > you

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Lee Elliott wrote: > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:28 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > ...snip .. > > Hmm... (part 2) > > Just tried firing the Spitfire cannon via the property

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Arnt Karlsen > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:41 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:21:13 +0100, Vivian wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > &g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 19 September 2004 10:42, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Lee Elliott wrote: > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:28 PM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic > > sub-model > > ...snip .. > &g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:23:35 +0200, Horst wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I can hear the cannon firing > I can see (very)little red dots from within the cockpit seeming to > leave the cannon > I can see (very)little red dots from outside seeming > to leave the cannon > I stops after - hmm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:17:22 +0100, Vivian wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Arnt Karlsen > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:41 PM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic su

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 18 September 2004 23:59, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Lee Elliott wrote: > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:06 PM > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic > > sub-model > > > > On S

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Giles Robertson
> ..quite right, some of this is caused by the turbulence, some of it by > the bomb release mechanism letting go of the bomb. Also, there are > those refreshingly wild stories of guys having to enter the bomb bay > to kick out bombs riding that turbulent airflow. ;-) Can we model the Dr. Strang

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Giles Robertson > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:02 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > > ..quite right, some of this is caused by the turbulence, > some of it by > > the bomb r

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Gene Buckle
> > Now let's see. What's the Cd of a human - 1.0 - 1.3? Area seated astride a > booomb - 4 sq ft? Make allowance for silly hat - 2 sq ft? Yup, we can do > that. > I love it. You can have a special parameter for it: slim_pickens=1. :) G -- "I'm not crazy, I'm plausibly off-nominal!" Proud own

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-19 Thread Giles Robertson
The Stetson is being spun, so there's actually a twisting effect there as well. Giles Robertson -Original Message- From: Gene Buckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 September 2004 22:42 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballisti

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Lee Elliott wrote: > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 12:48 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > On Sunday 19 September 2004 10:42, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > Lee Elliott wrote: > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:39:09 +0100, Vivian wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/vmeazza/FlightGear/zero_gravity-bombs_overtaking. > jpg ..low 'n early dr. Strangelove effect? ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-21 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 20 September 2004 08:39, Vivian Meazza wrote: {snip...] > Lee, > > Here's some pics off the effects I obtained: > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/vmeazza/FlightGear/zero_drag-full_g >ravity.jpg > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/vmeazza/FlightGear/zero_gravity-acc >elerating.jpg > > http://myweb

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model

2004-09-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Lee Elliott wrote > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:22 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with ballistic sub-model > > > On Monday 20 September 2004 08:39, Vivian Meazza wrote: {snip...] > > Lee, > > > >