Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-09 Thread Wolfram Kuss
Christian wrote: >Wolfram: When was the last time you've tried FGFS with MSVC? Long ago. >CU, >Christian Bye bye, Wolfram. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-09 Thread Ross Golder
.cvspass is for remembering pserver passwords (SourceForge anonymous access). As John needs developer access he is using the ext method, which is designed to use rsh/ssh. John, list the contents of one of your CVS/Root files. This will show what repository the working directory is set up to. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-09 Thread Christian Mayer
Norman Vine wrote: > > Norman Vine writes > >>> > >>Norman Vine wrote: > >>> > >>> FWIW > >>> MingW32 < which uses the MSoft runtime libraries > > >>> is blowing up in fgInitSubsystems() > >>> in globals->saveInitialState(); > >>> at > >>> /environment[0]/weather[0]/wind-north-mps[0] wind-north-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-09 Thread Christian Mayer
Norman Vine wrote: > > Curtis L.Olson writes: > > > >Norman Vine writes: > >> another problem is in simgear / sky / cloud.cxx > >> > >> bool SGCloudLayer::reposition( sgVec3 p, sgVec3 up, double > >lon, double lat, > >> double alt ) > >> { > >> > >> // now cal

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-09 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L.Olson writes: > >Norman Vine writes: >> another problem is in simgear / sky / cloud.cxx >> >> bool SGCloudLayer::reposition( sgVec3 p, sgVec3 up, double >lon, double lat, >> double alt ) >> { >> >> // now calculate update texture coordinates >> if

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine writes: > another problem is in simgear / sky / cloud.cxx > > bool SGCloudLayer::reposition( sgVec3 p, sgVec3 up, double lon, double lat, > double alt ) > { > > // now calculate update texture coordinates > if ( last_lon < -900 ) { >

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Norman Vine
Norman Vine writes >>> >>Norman Vine wrote: >>> >>> FWIW >>> MingW32 < which uses the MSoft runtime libraries > >>> is blowing up in fgInitSubsystems() >>> in globals->saveInitialState(); >>> at >>> /environment[0]/weather[0]/wind-north-mps[0] wind-north-mps = NaN >>> OK-- This ones easy to fix,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Tony Peden
On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 16:34, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Andy Ross writes: > > Eventually (hopefully soon), this will be extended to support > > turbulence and wash effects at each surface. There are some > > performance worries there, though, since if each surface depends on > > the wash effects of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
CVS remembers your passwords after the first time you enter it. Look for ~/.cvspass and you'll see what it does. Curt. John Wojnaroski writes: > > You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF > > user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did. > > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread John Wojnaroski
> You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF > user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did. > > > > > $ export CVS_RSH=ssh > > $ cvs -z3:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/opengc/ co opengc > > > > cvs server: Updat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread Ross Golder
On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 23:42, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > Ross: quick question > > using the makefile.am in opengc you created I get the following > > > > make[1] *** no rule to make target 'opengc_LDFLAGS', needed by 'opengc". > > Stop. > > > > Is something missing in configure.in? Looks very si

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: > Eventually (hopefully soon), this will be extended to support > turbulence and wash effects at each surface. There are some > performance worries there, though, since if each surface depends on > the wash effects of all the others you go from O(N) to O(N^2) in the > number of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John, You need to check out the your copy from the SF repository as your SF user ID, not anonymously. It sounds like that is what you did. Regards, Curt. John Wojnaroski writes: > > > > > The source tree on opengc.org currently only builds on windows. We've > had > > > > some problems convi

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Norman Vine
Christian Mayer writes: > >Norman Vine wrote: >> >> FWIW >> MingW32 < which uses the MSoft runtime libraries > >> is blowing up in fgInitSubsystems() >> in globals->saveInitialState(); >> at >> /environment[0]/weather[0]/wind-north-mps[0] wind-north-mps = NaN >> >> >> I bet this is a problem

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Christian Mayer
Norman Vine wrote: > > Christian Mayer writes: > > > >It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The > >compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems > >running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame > >(happens currently with bo

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Norman Vine
Christian Mayer writes: > >It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The >compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems >running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame >(happens currently with both, JSBsim and LaRCsim, but on dif

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread John Check
On Saturday 08 December 2001 2:38 pm, you wrote: > David Findlay wrote: > > Curt Olson wrote: > > > So for instance if you want to try Andy's YASim 747 model, and check > > > out his alternate (blade element-ish) approach to modeling the flight > > > dynamics > > > > So what exactly does bla

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Andy Ross
Christian Mayer wrote: > But one other observation: I couldn't lift of with the YAsim C310 (172 > and 747 worked fine). I can accelerate and pull. The front lifts of > but i'm not gaining any altitude. Was your engine RPM stuck at 1700? There is a version skew problem with the c310.xml file.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Andy Ross
David Findlay wrote: > Curt Olson wrote: > > So for instance if you want to try Andy's YASim 747 model, and check > > out his alternate (blade element-ish) approach to modeling the flight > > dynamics > > So what exactly does blade element-ish mean? Is this sorta like a realtime > digital

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread John Wojnaroski
> > > The source tree on opengc.org currently only builds on windows. We've had > > > some problems convincing John W's CVS to talk to SourceForge, which is why > > > there are currently two versions of the code (kingmont and sourceforge). > > So John W's CVS problem caused this? We probably ough

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> So what exactly does blade element-ish mean? Is this sorta like a > realtime digital wind tunnel sorta thing? Thanks, Nothing of the sort. But Andy appears to have a reasonable approximation for subsonic, anyhow. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing li

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-08 Thread Ross Golder
On Sat, 2001-12-08 at 01:49, John Wojnaroski wrote: > > > > The source tree on opengc.org currently only builds on windows. We've had > > some problems convincing John W's CVS to talk to SourceForge, which is why > > there are currently two versions of the code (kingmont and sourceforge). So Jo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Ross Golder
- Original Message - > From: "John Check" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear. > > > I just tried building the code from opengc.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Christian Mayer
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > > Christian Mayer writes: > > I haven't tried the c172-yasim (assuming that when it doesn't work with > > JSBsim and doesn't work with LaRCsim it doesn't work at all). > > > > After I tried it it worked!! But after a few seconds (10 or so) sitting > > on the runway doin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Christian Mayer writes: > I haven't tried the c172-yasim (assuming that when it doesn't work with > JSBsim and doesn't work with LaRCsim it doesn't work at all). > > After I tried it it worked!! But after a few seconds (10 or so) sitting > on the runway doing nothing it crashed (most probably the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Christian Mayer
Erik Hofman wrote: > > Christian Mayer wrote: > > > It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The > > compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems > > running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame > > (happens currently with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Erik Hofman
Christian Mayer wrote: > It would be really great if 0.8.0 - or even 0.7.9 works with MSVC. The > compiler errors are mostly fixed by now :), but I've got still problems > running FGFS w/o having the maths blow up during the first frame > (happens currently with both, JSBsim and LaRCsim, but on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Christian Mayer
Erik Hofman wrote: > > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > priority, but are things an average person will immediately notice and > > ding us for) then I would be tempted to roll out the 0.7.9 release > > soon. (I'm thinking specifically of the startup-onground sinking into > > the ground and spinning

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Christian Mayer
Alex Perry wrote: > > > C'mon -- we deserve an 0.8.0 for all this. > > Yeah, but 0.7.9 is the version we release that only works for the developers. > Then, when everybody else explains why it doesn't work for them, we do 0.8.0 > > 8-) > > Another viewpoint is we stabilize the interfaces for 0

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: priority, but are things an average person will immediately notice and > ding us for) then I would be tempted to roll out the 0.7.9 release > soon. (I'm thinking specifically of the startup-onground sinking into > the ground and spinning slowly bug in JSBSim and the accel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-08 Thread David Findlay
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:15, you wrote: > So for instance if you want to try Andy's YASim 747 model, and check > out his alternate (blade element-ish) approach to modeling the flight > dynamics, just run "fgfs --aircraft=747-yasim" and you'll get the > right fdm code, and the right aerodynamics confi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-07 Thread John Wojnaroski
> Hehe, you are just discovering that this open-source project > management stuff isn't as easy as it looks. :-) it really is kind of addictive, though and sometimes frustrating. like pushing on rope. but then the pay is great :-) Thank you for your interest and counsel Regards John W. _

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Wojnaroski writes: > Just to add a little more confusion > > Boy, this is turning into a real bad mess. > > The unix source on kingmont builds with the freetype 1.3 and gltt and should > work with the latest version of FG from the CVS, but the displays are > minimal, just the PFD stuf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear with Opengc

2001-12-07 Thread John Check
You guys do what you gotta do. I have plenty to keep me occupied On Friday 07 December 2001 8:49 pm, you wrote: > > The source tree on opengc.org currently only builds on windows. We've had > > some problems convincing John W's CVS to talk to SourceForge, which is > > why there are currently two

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-07 Thread Alex Perry
> C'mon -- we deserve an 0.8.0 for all this. Yeah, but 0.7.9 is the version we release that only works for the developers. Then, when everybody else explains why it doesn't work for them, we do 0.8.0 8-) Another viewpoint is we stabilize the interfaces for 0.7.9 which lets all the other project

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-07 Thread Damion Shelton
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear. > I just tried building the code from opengc.org and failed. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-07 Thread John Check
On Friday 07 December 2001 5:13 pm, you wrote: > > > Currently we don't have a 747 panel so perhaps someone out there might > > > > see this as an opportunity to jump in and start working on one. :-) > > Well, we do have the glass displays which are ideal for the 747, but you > need a second machi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-07 Thread John Check
On Friday 07 December 2001 4:15 pm, you wrote: > Things have been moving pretty quickly lately so I want to describe > one particularly useful change in case anyone missed it. > > With the latest cvs code and base package you can now use a set of top > level config files to start up FlightGear wit

re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-07 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: > So for instance if you want to try Andy's YASim 747 model, and > check out his alternate (blade element-ish) approach to modeling > the flight dynamics, just run "fgfs --aircraft=747-yasim" and > you'll get the right fdm code, and the right aerodynamics > configurat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-07 Thread John Wojnaroski
> > Currently we don't have a 747 panel so perhaps someone out there might > see this as an opportunity to jump in and start working on one. :-) > Well, we do have the glass displays which are ideal for the 747, but you need a second machine on a LAN. Flavio has suggested running the display pro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Starting up flightgear.

2001-12-07 Thread jsb
> soon. (I'm thinking specifically of the startup-onground sinking into > the ground and spinning slowly bug in JSBSim Done, tested, and committed (at the default airport). Note that now the wind will push you around on the runway, but it can't be any worse that rocking like a boat when you ar