FM10 help broken?

Did Adobe change something on their web site that broke FM10 help? Maybe it's not just FM10? I just did Help Help Topics and searched for change bars with This reference only selected. Cold Fusion or whatever replaced the quotes and space with escaped HTML and the search found no results.

RE: Font information changed

It's probably because Illustrator is, on startup, activating its own set of fonts (having tucked them away somewhere), and deactivates them upon quitting. I finally solved my problems in FrameMaker with error messages about Helvetica, Times and ZapfDingbats by finding those fonts in an old

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow? I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I share your sentiments/fears exactly, Steve. Nadine - Original Message - From: Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:37:59 PM Subject: OT:

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Look at your license agreement...you dont own them now. On May 9, 2013 12:42 PM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow? I do wonder

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

It's not just freelancers that will be affected. Until my company was recently purchased by a larger organization, I had always worked for small to medium-sized businesses as the sole writer. Trying to get a budget for tools could be like pulling teeth. I somehow doubt most of my former

RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

At 17:02 + 9/5/13, Bethany Lee wrote : Pardon my ignorance, but what is SaaS basis? Sorry, my bad just finished a book on software security. 'Saas' = 'software as a service', i.e. pay-as-you-use, often with the apps hosted in the cloud. -- Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

See RoboColum's post on this - http://www.cmcandrew.com/robocolumn/archives/3849 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:57 PM To: Steve Rickaby;

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Actualy, i think they would jump on it. They can spread out the cost evenly over a period of time and if the employee leaves, they can stop the charges...they arent out the full cost. It also changes from capital purchase to operating expense that is treated differently on the books. On May 9,

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I have to agree with John, and last year I would have totally bet the other way. I was, accidentally, an early Cloud subscriber because I couldn't afford to set up new systems with new software. But I could handle the $1 a day charge paid monthly, so that's what I opted for, and it's been fine.

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

In my experience, an ongoing expense - small or not - would be a non-starter. You must have experience with employers who actually look at the details, and not just the surface. I'm lucky now, as that's no longer the case for me, but I've lived it many times. Alison -Original

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Also, SaaS and subscription are different concepts.SaaS (like SalesForce, Jira, BaseCamp, Web(prettymuchanything) and many others) are web portals where the computing occurs across a network.Subscription means that you confirm your ability to run the software installed on (and processed on) your

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

It's not SaaS, it's subscription. Yes, the name Creative Cloud (CC) is confusing but it's not web-only applications. You download and install them. I like this model for a few reasons: 1. Cheaper for multi-application users. Rather than buying one-off or a suite at a time, you get access to all

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

At 14:22 -0400 9/5/13, Bill Swallow wrote: I don't see this as being a bad thing. I see it as being different. Yup, but as soon as you stop paying, you lose access to all your content. That's a real big psychological barrier to bridge. I can see why a subscription model would appeal to

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Unfortunately, it's not a rumor. They made a mistake calling the subscription CC, though. It should have been called FU. To paraphrase someone else's quote on one of the Adobe forums, It's like paying for air. Stop paying and everything stops. I've always upgraded my CS every version, even

OT: ePublisher help

Hi Framers, I have a client that needs some ePublisher help. If you are interested, please contact me off-list. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

You don't lose your content. The files don't turn into pumpkins when you quit the subscription. Yes, you can't use the native files, but if you didn't plan a content migration knowing you'd be dropping the parent application, whose fault is that? As a consultant, the model is extremely

RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

This is not just a rumor I think ... it is mentioned on the Adobe web site for their CS tools (... have not seen anything for FrameMaker though). This may work for some (many?) corporate users, but as far as I am concerned, it is just one more nail in the Adobe tools coffin (for example, see my

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Agreed to most, except the issue of backward compatibility. As it stands now, I can open old versions of files in old version of software because I have the applications. I don't know how this will be handled with the new software as it evolves. It will only take three years for this to be a

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

As for cars, leasing has been a huge business for a couple of decades. There's also a growing adoption of ride shares (pay for shared use of a car), and rentals still are thriving. Yes, but when they started leasing cars, they didn't remove the option to buy them! I'm not against leasing

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow? I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I share your sentiments/fears exactly, Steve. Nadine - Original Message - > From: Steve Rickaby > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:37:59 PM > Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

It's not just freelancers that will be affected. Until my company was recently purchased by a larger organization, I had always worked for small to medium-sized businesses as the sole writer. Trying to get a budget for tools could be like pulling teeth. I somehow doubt most of my former

Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

At 17:02 + 9/5/13, Bethany Lee wrote : >Pardon my ignorance, but what is SaaS basis? Sorry, my bad just finished a book on software security. 'Saas' = 'software as a service', i.e. pay-as-you-use, often with the apps hosted in the cloud. -- Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

See RoboColum's post on this - http://www.cmcandrew.com/robocolumn/archives/3849 -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:57 PM To: Steve Rickaby; framers at

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I have to agree with John, and last year I would have totally bet the other way. I was, accidentally, an early Cloud subscriber because I couldn't afford to set up new systems with new software. But I could handle the $1 a day charge paid monthly, so that's what I opted for, and it's been fine.

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

In my experience, an ongoing expense - small or not - would be a non-starter. You must have experience with employers who actually look at the details, and not just the surface. I'm lucky now, as that's no longer the case for me, but I've lived it many times. Alison -Original

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

It's not SaaS, it's subscription. Yes, the name "Creative Cloud" (CC) is confusing but it's not web-only applications. You download and install them. I like this model for a few reasons: 1. Cheaper for multi-application users. Rather than buying one-off or a suite at a time, you get access to

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

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OT: ePublisher help

Hi Framers, I have a client that needs some ePublisher help. If you are interested, please contact me off-list. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

You don't lose your content. The files don't turn into pumpkins when you quit the subscription. Yes, you can't use the native files, but if you didn't plan a content migration knowing you'd be dropping the parent application, whose fault is that? As a consultant, the model is extremely

Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

This is not just a rumor I think ... it is mentioned on the Adobe web site for their CS tools (... have not seen anything for FrameMaker though). This may work for some (many?) corporate users, but as far as I am concerned, it is just one more nail in the Adobe tools coffin (for example, see my

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Yes, Steve, it's true. There will be no CS7, just CC (Creative Cloud) apps. Single apps can be rented for $20/month, the entire suite is $50/month. There are first year discounts for some current users. CC requires that your computer get

Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Pardon my ignorance, but what is SaaS basis? -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:38 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Corporate madness

FW: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

This is troubling, and so one message is "buy the CS software on CD/DVD while you still can." A number of my friends, most connected with academic institutions, are doing that. I expect Adobe is attempting to have everyone on the same page as regards these applications so that one set of help

FW: FM10 help broken?

As a fallback option to online help, it's probably a good idea to download the help file as a PDF (it makes a great user manual, btw). Since the PDF has the revision date in the footer you can update your version if a new revision is released. Such a search should be easy in the PDF. Craig

FW: FM10 help broken?

I just did the same search (i.e. "change bars") and it worked fine. Maybe they fixed it. I see my previous post missed that you are searching not just the FM10 help but the broader range of the Adobe Community, etc. Craig -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

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FW: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Actually, the right subscription model might appeal to many companies. It can be cost effective for the company (a known monthly, smallish outflow of cash), but is certainly harder on the user/contractor since they will be more acutely aware of the fact that they are having to constantly

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Ditto what Bill said. Just glad I didn't have to write all of that. :-) -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 2:22 PM To: Steve Rickaby Cc: framers at

Landscape master pages don't work

Hello again, Framers, I have three landscape master pages: LandscapeHeading1 (the first page), LandscapeRight, and LandscapeLeft. MasterPageMaps on the Reference page defines paragraph tag "LandscapeTable" to use Landscape Right and Landscape Left master pages, with a Range Indicator of