Re: apple moving to x86

2005-06-08 Thread Stephen Hurd
As there is FreeBSD port to the PowerPC and its peripherals, this machine will make a very interesting target for FreeBSD: combine the x86 code base with the PowerPC drivers and get a real hot machine. The *really* hot machine is going to be the OSX ABI supported under FreeBSD and running Aq

Re: apple moving to x86

2005-06-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Nicole wrote: On 07-Jun-05 My Homeland Security "observers" reported that Erich Dollansky said: Yeah, Homeland Security. This gives NSA a lot of e-mails to scan. Claus Guttesen wrote: It seems a shame that they could not have at least gone with AMD processors instead of Intel. No mat

Re: apple moving to x86

2005-06-08 Thread Stephen Hurd
David Kelly wrote: No, "Apple SC Setup" would not do a non-Apple SCSI drive. This might have changed with MacOS 9. MacOS X has never complained about any IDE HD I have tried. I never had a problem and was using either System 6 or System 7 (Never could justify shelling out for an OS

Re: apple moving to x86

2005-06-08 Thread Stephen Hurd
David Kelly wrote: Adaptec doesn't have the worlds best reputation for allowing people to write drivers (or even for writing non-buggy firmware) but I seem to recall that the Macs that ship with SCSI support use an Adaptec chipset... oh, on looking, it appears that the IIci uses an NCR S

Re: apple moving to x86

2005-06-08 Thread Nicole
On 07-Jun-05 My Homeland Security "observers" reported that Erich Dollansky said: > Hi, > > Claus Guttesen wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I know this is a bit off-topic but it will probably have some impact > > Isn't chat the better list for this? > >> on the ongoing work with FreeBSD. As most know by now

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread bq510
> well to be exact, the situation looks like this: when the > monitor is plugged into the box (it doesn't matter wheather > it's on or off) everything runs fine (there's the > standard "short beep" and the machine boots normaly). I think your solution lies there. With the thing running OK wit

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
well, I think that's it.. I would like to thank All of those who had and shared ideas about my box.. All of You were very helpfull.. thank You.. The conclusion about the topic is that I just have a very perverse motherboard and probablly it'll stay that way till its last days :P hehe.. Once aga

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
David Wolfskill wrote: Well, you could try pulling th evideo card out of the machine, and see if it will boot that way Long shot, but if it works :-} Peace, david I've tried that too. The box beeps 1 long and 3 short ones.. as far as I know it 'tells' that way that it cannot be run

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
Kevin Kinsey wrote: My next line of inquiry would probably be the video card itself. There seem to be few references to this sort of problem out there; but the two I've seen that matched your description most closely (and they weren't THAT close, but we seem to be dealing with a relatively rare

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Przemysław Nowaczyk wrote: David Wolfskill wrote: I'm no expert on PC hardware, but that sounds as if the BIOS is deliberately probing the monitor, and if it finds "no monitor," it is not only refusing to boot, but refusing to drive the video card. That seems perverse in the extreme. And ma

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
Oliver Fromme wrote: Przemys?aw Nowaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Did you try to run it with the cable plugged in but no monitor at the > > other end? > > yes.. it didn't start :( Is that a VGA-to-VGA cable, or a VGA-to-RGB/coax cable? There's a slight cha

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Przemys?aw Nowaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Did you try to run it with the cable plugged in but no monitor at the > > other end? > > yes.. it didn't start :( Is that a VGA-to-VGA cable, or a VGA-to-RGB/coax cable? There's a slight chance that the latter migh

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Przemysław Nowaczyk wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: well to be exact, the situation looks like this: when the monitor is plugged into the box (it doesn't matter wheather it's on or off) everything runs fine (there's the standard "short beep" and the machine boots n

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Przemysław Nowaczyk wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: well to be exact, the situation looks like this: when the monitor is plugged into the box (it doesn't matter wheather it's on or off) everything runs fine (there's the standard "short beep" and the machine boots normaly). But when the mon

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
David Wolfskill wrote: I'm no expert on PC hardware, but that sounds as if the BIOS is deliberately probing the monitor, and if it finds "no monitor," it is not only refusing to boot, but refusing to drive the video card. That seems perverse in the extreme. And makes that board ill-suited for

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
David Wolfskill wrote: On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 04:19:30PM +0200, Przemys?aw Nowaczyk wrote: ... well to be exact, the situation looks like this: when the monitor is plugged into the box (it doesn't matter wheather it's on or off) everything runs fine (there's the standard "short beep" and

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Przemysław Nowaczyk wrote: okey.. the status for now is: - I have the newest version of Bios v.4.51PG 2B for this motherboard, - I've tried all combinations with the Halt On option (no solvation), - Even without the video card the box doesn't start, - in my bios ther

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Przemysław Nowaczyk wrote: okey.. the status for now is: - I have the newest version of Bios v.4.51PG 2B for this motherboard, - I've tried all combinations with the Halt On option (no solvation), - Even without the video card the box doesn't start, - in my bios there's no No Video option, -

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
okey.. the status for now is: - I have the newest version of Bios v.4.51PG 2B for this motherboard, - I've tried all combinations with the Halt On option (no solvation), - Even without the video card the box doesn't start, - in my bios there's no No Video option, - Even when only the cable of the

Re: apple moving to x86

2005-06-08 Thread David Kelly
On Jun 7, 2005, at 10:09 PM, Stephen Hurd wrote: Adaptec doesn't have the worlds best reputation for allowing people to write drivers (or even for writing non-buggy firmware) but I seem to recall that the Macs that ship with SCSI support use an Adaptec chipset... oh, on looking, it appear

Re: apple moving to x86

2005-06-08 Thread David Kelly
On Jun 8, 2005, at 1:06 AM, Stephen Hurd wrote: David Kelly wrote: No, "Apple SC Setup" would not do a non-Apple SCSI drive. This might have changed with MacOS 9. MacOS X has never complained about any IDE HD I have tried. I never had a problem and was using either System 6 or Syste

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Przemysław Nowaczyk wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Connect a monitor to see what happens. It should work as you described it. Could it be that halt on no errors means that the machines halts even if there are not errors? English is a difficult language, even for BIOS programmers.

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. What if you only connect a monitor plug or cable, but > no actual monitor? I forgot to mention: A standard 15pin VGA connector has three ID pins (11, 12 and 4, I think). If all else fails, it might help to connect some or all of them to ground

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Przemys?aw Nowaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to make a headless server of my old Celeron 366 box and I've > got some problems with it. I know that in BIOS the Halt On option (Award > Bios) needs to be set to No Errors, It should be sufficient to set that option to "All, excep

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Wed, June 8, 2005 12:47, Przemys³aw Nowaczyk said: > when the monitor is connected the box runs fine.. the problem is when I > want to turn it on without the monitor.. > i'll check the bios settings again maybe as You said it should be the > other way.. > Just a wild shot in the dark; Try upg

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Connect a monitor to see what happens. It should work as you described it. Could it be that halt on no errors means that the machines halts even if there are not errors? English is a difficult language, even for BIOS programmers. Erich when the monitor is connect

Re: headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Przemysław Nowaczyk wrote: hi to all, I'm trying to make a headless server of my old Celeron 366 box and I've got some problems with it. I know that in BIOS the Halt On option (Award Bios) needs to be set to No Errors, but still without the monitor the box doesn't start (it doesn't give

headless server...

2005-06-08 Thread Przemysław Nowaczyk
hi to all, I'm trying to make a headless server of my old Celeron 366 box and I've got some problems with it. I know that in BIOS the Halt On option (Award Bios) needs to be set to No Errors, but still without the monitor the box doesn't start (it doesn't give the "short beep"). The keyboard a

Re: filesystems not properly unmounted [OT]

2005-06-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
[Quoting fixed.] Ronald Klop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yuval Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Which brings me back to the topic of this thread: is there anybody out > > > there with the skills to cleanly solve this shameful situation in whic