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For some misterious reason, FreeDOS memeory manager is a very hot
subject. IMHO you should just use good common sense (as you have been
doing) ;-)
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So, we are (OK, I am) in the trap of our own license! The GPL, instead
of giving us freedom, takes it away from *us*, the *developers*! Isn't
that absurd?! :-(
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Luchezar Georgiev escreveu:
Oh, if you or I could do that! Good dream, but too difficult to do :( So
we're STUCK with the GPL!
We cannot forget that if it were *not* GPL it would not have had so many
people helping ;-)
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HI,
I have a BIG question: What is PG? I just searched the site, followed
every link and could not find any explanation, it only says how it can
solve "many" PC problems, not even specifying which...
If so many people in FreeDOS are interested, I would like to know about
so.
I also agree. This was discussed some time ago, but we could open the
chapter again because FreeDOS is getting really mature now
I would prefer a C:\DOS directory with all exacutables inside. Users
will feel more confortable with it ;-)
up-to-date and more frequently updated is UUDMA? Am I
correct or not? Both ways, the version to include in 'base' should be
selected by LUCHO...
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DOS- all exe/com/sys files
Definetly yes
DOS\HELP - all help files
but the help command should be in the DOS directory
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Hi,
This brings a very important question: If I create an image with
FreeDOS's disckcopy, can I write it back with rawrite? Are they compatible?
Alain
Kenneth J. Davis escreveu:
Hi Arkady! To write a diskimage to disk, simply use FreeDOS DISKCOPY.
For Windows, use:
http://www.ibiblio.or
Luchezar Georgiev escreveu:
[...]if
anyone has this (or Pat's) book and wants to sell it to me, you're
welcome ;-)
I would by one too. anywhere even with a credit card. I have already
searched but could not find it :(
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working version od DOSFSCK should be included in version 1.0 to
have a full set of tools.
I don't believ that we will see a working and debugged version of either
chkdsk or scandisk any time soon ...
Now we have a good FORMAT, and even a EMM386 (will be working soon) :)
it) 3) free as much as possible Low-Memory for comon
programs (EMS takes 64k of UMB)(very often needed). Will this
configuration work??
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Hi Amy,
I am not the official mantainer, but I can assure you that FreeDOS works
well with both Fat16 anf Fat32. As far as I know there is no knwn bug,
and I am using it on same machines without problem for quite a while :)
Alain
PS: as you sent your address I am bcc'ing this to you
ot have time to learn how to
write a read/write absolute sector (it has to run on djgpp).
Many people here could help on just this item ;-)
IMHO a working version od DOSFSCK should be included in version 1.0 to
have a full set of tools.
Agreed.
:) :)
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places. This way if there is at least 4Mb, a little more in various
tables is wellcome.
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PS What program are usint to write you messages? my Thunderbird is
behaving strangely in the answer screen and I have to break lines manually.
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EMM386 will only allocate VCPI memory from the EMS memory pool. Making it
automatically use the XMS memory pool would require backdoor interaction
with HIMEM[64] and generally make things quite a bit more complex.
Of course
h 3 to 4 lines. When I am answering the message, every paragraph
opens in one single very long line. All other messages seem to work
normaly.
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iting file by nonexisting file zaps file.
I believe this is fixed
Context memory has a memory leak.
?? looks bad
Renaming dir with trailing \ makes it disappear.
?? looks bad
Most other problems I (personaly) don't see as show stoppers
Alain
it is really easy to make sure of what you
are doing and never any friend reported a problem even with the crazy
things that it can do.
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needed. VCPI and EMS memory are a shared pool.
The 32K doesn't affect the DOS conventional memory footprint.
Very nice...
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NOT AT ALL. Following SCO example, if we do that, _every_ FreeDOS user
could be sued. That would be catastrophic.
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relinked by the user,
then it can be distributed. So if the GPL part can be _replaced_ by one
compiled by the user himself, it should be ok, but it seems that some
people do not agree with me... :(
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Hi,
I found this:
chkdsk Ready 2003-10-6
I don't agree. If we have a fat32 kernel, and chkdsk is only fat16 we
cannot use it :( There could be a reference to dosfsck, stating not
compatible or something.
Alain
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I have committed most of the pe
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inserted by some mis-configured bios), and other gross errors. That is
more or less what the Bios "should" do. I agree more with Eric than with
Tom (see bellow).
Alain
Eric Auer escreveu:
> HIMEM /TESTMEM:... is indeed not that useful. An exist-check might be
> useful, but a check
l it FreeDOS 1.0 ...
There is probably a patent to prevent us of it anyway :(
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Luchezar Georgiev escribio':
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:08:32 -0300, Alain wrote:
about fat32 testing: I believe a working DOSFSCK 2.10 just what is
needed (not what is whished for).
Actually, I agree! If Eric can say "FreeDOS SMARTDRV is LBAC
.
Agreed ;-)
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Johnson Lam escreveu:
I've an idea, as the official MEM of FreeDOS, is it good to include
the FreeCOM and Kernel information also?
I got a bit annoy because when I want to check Kernel version I have
to reboot, and I don't prefer to have another tool just check for
Kernel and FreeCOM.
I wrote som
numbers is not enough, there are too many
variants that show only in the kernel description string string (like fat32)
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There is also one other for DR-DOS and something (which I don't know)
for Datalife-ROM-DOS. But specificaly for FreeDOS it is not enough
because there are far too many versions with the same numbers :(
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In fact my focus in on that too :)
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P.S. Under what license was the RBIL released? What about an ABIL
(Arkady Belousov's Interrupt List)? ;-)
What about puting somwhere an APTR (Arkady's patchews to Rbil)? He just
said in a message that hes has his own collection
do you agree, Arka
tom ehlert escreveu:
LG> send me a binary to test at lucho gawab com
here are part of the headers, which I get forwarded from SF
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I seems that you have to hide you adress better ;
v and internal cache) it is
best _not_ to have too much buffers, no more that something between 10
and 20.
In my case I limited to 10, but I remember som Windows problem if
buffers were <20, but that could be in wfw3.11...
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I think, for bugfixes you should release immediately. :)
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#if NET_ABP == 1
and NET_ABP is not defined? or even
#if defined(NET_ABP) && NET_ABP == 1
this works in C, but would it work with compilers?
I have in mind Borland C (3.1 and 4.52) and Watcom C
thanks for any help :)
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Hi Michael,
I just Tested HIMEM64+EMM386 in a Texas (aka Acer) Notebook Extensa
502DX with a Pentium 266MHz with 64Mb Ram.
And ecverything else M$DOS 7.10
More tests: allways does a cold-boot with memory test.
Maybe you intend it to be soo, but it is non-standard behaviour.
Alain
n the serial interface stops working, iirc the break
detect.
Alain
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Hi Michael,
I just Tested HIMEM64+EMM386 in a Texas (aka Acer) Notebook Extensa 502DX with a Pentium 266MHz with 64Mb Ram.
And ecverything else M$DOS 7.10
More
hat's true in either real or protected mode.
Do you meen ther usualy Warm-Boot dos not do a reset? I allways
understood that that the only thing that is skipped is the memory test,
not the hardware reset...
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Just one question: How much does MODE grow with Zlib?
And one more: What about an install program that extracts needed
information from a standard .zip file specific for that user's needs?
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right now on updated ODIN bootdisk the CPI files take almost 600KB (10
* 60KB),
which is n
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accents. I will some time soon release a new version. If anyone is
interested, contact me ;-)
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I believe that he is right ;=)
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Aitor Santamaría Merino escreveu:
Hi,
Alain escribió:
Eric Auer escreveu:
Again, I suggest to ask Francesco to translate the FreeCOM shell
message catalogue first. Hope that is a good idea...
Good Idea.
I have parttially fixed FreeCom in pt_BR (Brazil), but it is 2 or 3
versions late and
all the international binaies of FreeCom should be kept
online somewhere. Most users are non-programers and I feel it can be
alittle over-complicated for them.
Who has an opinon about this?
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If someone makes a binary, at least it will be tested and useable.
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eady lost Lucho for no more than this.
Maybe things could get a bit more polite around here, or whatever it
takes to keep good helpers from fleeing :(
Alain
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Hi Aitor,
Can I use this append with MS-DOS or in Win98se dos-box?
thanks for this,
Alain
Aitor Santamaría Merino escreveu:
Hi all,
I'd like to announce FreeDOS APPEND 1.0, a very basic APPEND that I have
created.
With this, I could run WordStar Express in a mixed directory
installation,
ns...
Am I right?
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Is this append FreeDOS only or should it run in MS-DOS 7.10 or in a
Win98 DOS-BOX?
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This fixes a nasty bug, so upgrading is recommended for everyone.
Most important changes from v0.1 (v0.2 announce got lost and v0.3 was
never public):
* Fix hang when
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This is probably a very usefull information ;-)
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Arkady V.Belousov escreveu:
Hi!
21-Июн-2004 18:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
if the a000 block is ever merged into the lower memory area,
interesting things might happen.
A> I remember one for instance: it was possible with a MDA to have 704k
A> lower memor
Arkady V.Belousov escreveu:
? _Now_ behavior of FD is same as with MS-DOS (ie. it not hangs when
base memory size is more than 640k after loading some driver).
I must agree that he has a point here ;-)
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[DEBUG] DOS 7+ detected, LOCKing drive.
Could not lock logical drive (error 0x5)! Aborting.
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I believe this is very Windows specific, but if you are willing to try,
I am willing to test
Alain
Eric Auer escreveu:
Hi, I have improved FreeDOS FORMAT again:
http://www
Yes, I remember that Tom was not willing to add VCPI _himself_ and
no-one volunteered for the job befor Michael.
Oh! there was a lot of people saying that it _should_ be this way or the
other, but noone volunteered to do it. TRUE.
Alain
tom ehlert escreveu:
> be you have difficulties with
those?
Alain
Michael Devore escreveu:
At 06:56 AM 7/7/2004 +0200, tom ehlert wrote:
Hello Michael,
> Should EMM386 remove its current code which changes returned upper
memory
> block start addresses from A000 to A001? Is it safe? Is it sane?
Is it
> The Right Thing To Do or not?
whe
ny years of experience and surely there will be
exceptions, but I have seen only one in all this time.
So this makes me VOTE for the RAM option ;-)
thanks for your patience,
Alain
Michael Devore escreveu:
At 07:00 PM 7/6/2004 +0200, Aitor Santamaría Merino wrote:
By the way, it's long since I
Hi Michael,
I am 99.9% sure thar without RAM there is no UMB. I will check it tomorow.
Alain
Michael Devore escreveu:
At 01:08 PM 7/8/2004 -0300, you wrote:
Hi Michael,
I would like to give you my opinion about the RAM option:
I USE IT !!! And I have two reasons to use it:
1) it is easy and works
Bernd Blaauw escreveu:
Alain schreef:
2) on NEW HW it works fine. In modern machines (mostly from PCI and
P133 up) upper memory area is not encombered with anything. Before
that QEMM's optimiser was the only way to make good use of UMB, but
now any conservative auto setup will just se
I believe this is a very typical representation of FreeDOS development.
Some people are optimizing it while critical problems (for some people)
remain unsolved.
Gregory Pietsch escreveu:
I got this in an e-mail that was also sent to Steffen Kaiser. I haven't
included Roland's e-mail address per
tom ehlert escreveu:
Hello Alain,
I believe this is a very typical representation of FreeDOS development.
Some people are optimizing it while critical problems (for some people)
remain unsolved.
I don't think that this statement is valid for the last 3 years of
kernel development.
tom
Not
This makes
devellopment even of FreeDOS utilities theoreticaly forbidden ...
Alain
PS: FWIU the later Borland museum compiler is BC1 that was released
_after_ TC2, but for mistirious reasons I posted this many-many times
and I fell into a some void. Well, now we know for sure that information
is n
with FreeDOS (in the CD version) and it should
make life easyer.
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Hi!
22-Июл-2004 21:24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A> PS: FWIU the later Borland museum compiler is BC1 that was released
A> _after_ TC2, but for mistirious reasons I posted this many-many times
A> and I fell into a some void.
All
hines and never detected a problem. Mostly I use BC31 sound() and
nosound(), but I made my own too, theoreticaly equivalent and installed
in over a hundred assorted machines.
Does someone know how FreeCOM does this so that I can compare?
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I don't remember ever having problem with those sound() functions. In
fact the time I thought I had, I made my own functions end the problem
was NOT there ;-)
Alain
Eric Auer escreveu:
Hi Alain!
FreeCOM uses direct hardware access to beep in TAB completion,
maybe THAT hangs
I am VEEERY glad to hear this :)))
Alain
Eric Auer escreveu:
Hi, I would like to comment that I am planning to improve the
DOS port of dosfstools DOSFSCK 2.10 next month, which should
give us an open source FAT12-FAT16-FAT32 filesystem checker
This could be improved
by wrapping everything into a
I sent a compiled beep program, but I have not seen my message in the
list. did it get thrugh?
Alain
Eric Auer escreveu:
Hi,
I vote for Bernd's idea: Make ALTBOOT an ignored option - at it would enable
the behaviour which FreeDOS EMM386 has as default anyway - and introduce a
NOALTBOOT o
Yes, FreeCOM has to work over serial lines. In embeded this is used.
Alain
Luchezar Georgiev escreveu:
Hello Bart and Tom,
Don't forget that FreeCOM is also supposed to be able to run over a
serial line via CTTY. In that case the beep should happen on the
terminal and not on the PC where Fr
OS is Beta, that is because things may
change, this is as good an example as anyone can get.
Alain
Michael Devore escreveu:
[Sorry, this is going to be long. I can't describe the problem properly
otherwise. I'm cc'ing to devel since the problem isn't really in the
kernel and a
ver to Tom...)
Alain
PS, be wellcome to join the list ;-)
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How are you?
I have hit a brick wall with trying to get Lantastic to work on Freedos,
We run a Point of sale on dos and now we have to switch to freedos, It's
a very nice system,
We use lantastic to communicate be
ne reason: I install it
on any client machine and I don't expect it to do any optimization, but
to provide _some_ UMB which ususaly makes a better system as a whole.
Alain
Michael Devore escreveu:
At 08:02 PM 8/23/2004 +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
"Conclusion": I wrote to the list, su
comment about that here some time ago, I remember some
arguments that this is not so good any more and the latest ones with
Serial-ATA and other things consume most of UMB :(
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Michael Devore escreveu:
At 04:30 PM 8/24/2004 -0300, Alain wrote:
Michael Devore escreveu:
But, (is there always one?) does the "RAM" option fall within "a
compatibility problem"? I use it as default for one reason: I
install it on any client machine and I don
Michael Devore escreveu:
At 05:45 PM 8/24/2004 -0300, Alain wrote:
Michael Devore escreveu:
I could map RAM to X=TEST which is about as safe as you can
automatically get for UMB's, but that would appear to break MS
compatibility for RAM option. What the heck does the documentation
st
is still a "???" :(
May I suggest a table similar to this in the docs or even help?
thanks for everything so far,
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;RAM" to enable them).
NOUMB option is a good idea for a post 1.0 FreeDOS change. It certainly
is a more intuitive option to change the FreeDOS UMB-on default condition.
I agree that it is a goog option, but what about compatibility?
Alain
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I agree with what you say below, but... why recomend dos4gw and not
Causeway.
- I understand that you would be much more familiar with it, and
- dos4gw is not free
??
Alain
Michael Devore escreveu:
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OK, ZRDX 0.47 is buggy. But why
:)
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tom ehlert escreveu:
seriously - would you use AnyDOS for your everyday work ?
I do. For devellopent. But my clints do it 24/7...
(machices are up to P4, graphics mode and database)
do you think anyone else does ?
Not very much ;-)
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Does anyone have a copy of PDETHER version 1.05? (pde105.zip)
all links I could find in Google are broken...
tom ehlert escreveu:
Hello Alain,
[...]
* Port DosEmu from Linux to SUN SOLARIS
* boot dos, giving it a lot of memory (for the RAMDISK)
* start XMSDSK
* start MS LANMANAGER as server
misses one thing: a side
by side view of averything that will be done. This is very important in
the Notebook/desktop scenario.
Alain
Aitor Santamaría Merino escreveu:
Hi there,
Sorry for the OT, does anyone know of a good and free (to download, not
necc. open source) Win32 program that can be
for any help,
Alain
Jim Hall escreveu:
Thanks Eduardo! I've mirrored this release on ibiblio, and posted a
news item on FreeDOS.org. Also, I've added your LSM to the Software List.
-jh
Eduardo Casino wrote:
Hi all,
at long last, this is the first version of FreeDOS NLSFUNC. Althou
Hi Michael, you keep impressimg me :))
Thanks, very much
Alain
Michael Devore escreveu:
Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads are the files
emmx13b.zip, EMM386 mostly executable package, and emms13b.zip, EMM386
mostly source package
that *someone* is happy :))
Alain
Michael Devore escreveu:
At 11:27 AM 12/8/2004 +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> Uploaded to ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads are the files
> emmx13b.zip, EMM386 mostly executable package, and emms13b.zip, EMM386
> mostly source package.
> These version
it.
So I recomend both BC31 and OW1.3
Alain
Goh, Yong Kwang escreveu:
Hi.
I'm planning to do some DOS programming and I'm hoping that my DOS
program will run on MS-DOS, Win9x and FreeDOS as well. So I'm looking
for recommendation for a C compiler that works best in generating
a
Arkady V.Belousov escreveu:
Earlier, there was recommended Borland C++ 3.1. But it is very outdated
(in sense of language), closed source, commercial, non-free and contains
bugs, which will never fixed.
I remember that you had a list of BC 3.1 bugs, could you send it to us,
please?
Alain
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