Re: [Freedos-user] the msdos 4.0 sources has some multitasking code

mean the MS Dos code for 7 or so is has been releaced now as well? Sorry you lost your DOS machines  in a move. Karen On Sun, 12 May 2024, Travis Siegel via Freedos-user wrote: Since there was a discussion here recently on multitasking with dos, I'd like to mention that the github

Re: [Freedos-user] the msdos 4.0 sources has some multitasking code

what it can unlock as far as possibilities for FreeDOS 1.4. On a side note, when will "bare-metal" networking (e.g. for 86Box) be available once again? Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ---- *Fro

[Freedos-user] the msdos 4.0 sources has some multitasking code

Since there was a discussion here recently on multitasking with dos, I'd like to mention that the github versions of ms-dos has a directory called v4.0-ozzie That directory has some interesting stuff in it, one of them is a couple of dissk images (I need to move them to a linux machine and see

Re: [Freedos-user] dos navigator

On Wed, 8 May 2024, Daniel Essin via Freedos-user wrote: Try it in a VM Yeah, I would, but that's not really an option for me. On 5/8/24 6:21 PM, Travis Siegel via Freedos-user wrote: I found my copy of PTS DOS Source, and was digging through them to see some of the differences be

[Freedos-user] dos navigator

I found my copy of PTS DOS Source, and was digging through them to see some of the differences between that and opendos, for which I also have the sources, and I ran across the dos navigator menuing system (at least I'm pretty sure it's a menu system, don't currently have a dos machine setup an

Re: [Freedos-user] Can you recommend a good single-board-computer for legacy OSs?

Thanks man, extremely helpful.  Probably exactly what I've been looking for, for years.  I knew it was out there, (I'd seen reference to such boards in industrial processes posts), but couldn't find them anywhere.  With this, I might be able to actually build a couple of the projects I wanted t

Re: [Freedos-user] Can you recommend a good single-board-computer for legacy OSs?

On 3/2/2023 4:55 AM, Ivan Ivanov wrote: Well, coreboot opensource x86 firmware will help you! The default coreboot's payload is SeaBIOS - a modern legacy-style BIOS written on C, without any UEFI crap. In addition, thanks to opensource - you can finally trust that your BIOS doesn't have the back

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

ot about screen readers alone, it is frankly disturbing the folks who feel otherwise, because they hear such all the time. On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Travis Siegel wrote: Possibly, but asap isn't opensource, so no article there. I do have an opensource screen reader, but again, it requires a

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Kare On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Travis Siegel wrote: Actually, that reminds me of a package called ka9q, which provides a complete tcp/ip stack to dos, that allows all kinds of net access to ftp, smtp, telnet, and probably other things I don't remember.  That's probably a really good art

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

bout blindness alone. Kare On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Travis Siegel wrote: I suppose if they're interested in articles on accessibility, I should probably write one on visually impaired access.  I tried to get a screen reader included into the project several years ago, and was turned down, beca

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

Actually, that reminds me of a package called ka9q, which provides a complete tcp/ip stack to dos, that allows all kinds of net access to ftp, smtp, telnet, and probably other things I don't remember.  That's probably a really good article waiting to happen. I actually used that package to run

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone want to write an article about FreeDOS?

I suppose if they're interested in articles on accessibility, I should probably write one on visually impaired access.  I tried to get a screen reader included into the project several years ago, and was turned down, because of the license of the code, even though it didn't have any restriction

Re: [Freedos-user] Questions about link files

On 12/26/2022 3:26 AM, M. Osman Talayman wrote: Hello, All .bat link files run the programs with 9 parameters (%1 - %9) I'm guessing this is because a dos program can take a maximum of 9 parameters and by doing it this way, all program parameters should be covered. Is that correct? No, this i

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't see USB stick

It was actually LFN of which I was thinking when I replied to the initial email.  I know dos *can* handle long file names, but it doesn't do so by default, and requires drivers/TSRs to be loaded to assist in this process. But, since it's obviously taboo to make a mistake, I'll happily keep my

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't see USB stick

In times when someone is trying to help, it's always best to give them the benefit of the doubt, and politely correct where they went wrong. Thank you. On 11/3/2022 5:53 AM, tom ehlert wrote: Hallo Herr Travis Siegel, am Donnerstag, 3. November 2022 um 10:46 schrieben Sie: Dos do

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't see USB stick

Dos doesn't handle fat32 devices by default.  You'll need to load the proper drivers and configure things properly for it to recognize fat32 partitions. I've not bothered, but I'm sure others on list have done so, but I'm sure you could find the information you need with a quick google search.

Re: [Freedos-user] Semware has released TSE as Freeware

I'm not a normal windows user obviously, but personally, I love when windows apps have text interfaces, it means I don't have to worry about them not working with my screen reader.  I deliberately didn't download the windows version, because I just figured it'd be another one of those fancy edi

Re: [Freedos-user] Semware has released TSE as Freeware

I actually registered this program when it was still shareware. qedit version 3.0C was the last version of qedit, then they went to TSE.  When I registered, I asked if 3.0c was still possible to register, because I preferred that version.  They told me no, and gave my registration for tse inste

Re: [Freedos-user] Mail and news for FreeDOS

I'm fairly certain there's a dos port of pcpine out there somewhere.  I've used it under windows, and it work sfine, but I never used it under plain dos, (though I know folks who have).  It handles both email and newsgroups.  Failing that, You could always try one of the various ports of ka9q,

Re: [Freedos-user] How to obtain LPR - or is there a way to use IPP?

On 9/17/2022 8:30 PM, PhilI never tried, but lpr.exe can be found in . Look in apps/apps.zip. Ah, this seems to work well, for printing a named file. Can certainly print plain text with lpr [address of printer] fi

Re: [Freedos-user] Retire from sending monthly reminder message

Nice script John. If Jim wants, I can run this on my softcon.com server, it won't be any trouble, and I just tested it by sending it to myself. it works just fine. Haven't tried it as a cron job yet, but I suspect that will work just fine too. Simple yet powerful piece of work there, nice w

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

om/list/NETWORK/MMENU.ZIP/MENU.DOC/ - Liam P. On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 at 22:34, Travis Siegel wrote: Not the program I was referring to in my initial post, but that is certainly an excellent program with a ton of features, and if I still ran a dos machine, I'd certainly use that one. The filenam

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

Not the program I was referring to  in my initial post, but that is certainly an excellent program with a ton of features, and if I still ran a dos machine, I'd certainly use that one.  The filename of the one I had I think was mm401.zip.  I can't however find that particular archive anywhere.

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSshell replacement

For what it's worth, the best dos menuing system I ever found was called Mark's Menu.  It was shareware, but it was fully functional.  Besides the disclaimer that shipped with the software being the funniest thing I'd ever read, it also had many functions, menus, submenus, I believe it even had

Re: [Freedos-user] Re (2): Off topic: Linux Journals

On 7/24/2022 5:06 PM, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Somewhat off scope but on a good topic. Ideally the journals should be preserved in Project Gutenberg or WikiSource or similar. https://gutenberg.org https://en.wikisource.org/ They're probably copyrighted, so that probably isn't an option. On t

Re: [Freedos-user] CP/M "and derivatives" legal status clarified

On 7/17/2022 5:10 PM, Jim Hall wrote: Questions arise when you consider if you can re-use the CP/M source code in another project that uses a recognized open source license - or if you want to re-use code from another project (under an open source license) to improve CP/M. Of course, these ques

Re: [Freedos-user] CP/M "and derivatives" legal status clarified

On 7/17/2022 4:44 PM, C. Masloch wrote: For some reason, I'd thought DRDOS has been free for quite some time. I remember when opendos was released as opensource, (I have a copy of it around here somewhere), but I thought DRDOS was released as freeware sometime after that, though I don't reme

Re: [Freedos-user] CP/M "and derivatives" legal status clarified

On 7/17/2022 7:56 AM, C. Masloch wrote: On the assumption that DR-DOS is included among the CP/M derivatives, which would agree with the fact that DRDOS, Inc. did sell DR-DOS 7.xx (and the shortlived DR-DOS 8.xx) and so had the rights to those, this means tht EDR-DOS is now free! For some r

Re: [Freedos-user] Assembly Language and BASIC

On 7/11/2022 8:59 AM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, They all have different purposes and implementations. I'm not complaining (much). But Wirth himself doesn't use anything except Oberon-07 anymore. I read somewhere once that Wirth said that oberon was what pascal was intended to be. I can't remember

Re: [Freedos-user] Assembly Language and BASIC

On 7/11/2022 2:49 AM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, GNU Pascal's main claim to fame (besides "Borland Pascal 7" support) was also supporting both ISO standards (7185, 10206). There are DJGPP builds available. But GNU Pascal hasn't been maintained in many years. Still, it works! I made a stab at getting GPC

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS ASM resources

Interestingly enough, I also bought a86/D86, and have found it to be the best assembler/disassembler I've ever found for dos.  I ran across it after (mostly) trying to use debug for things, so it was a welcome relief.  I still use it when working on dos things, which admittedly isn't very often

Re: [Freedos-user] Installing Freedos on a Opendos system

Of course it is, we just had an entire discussion about this very thing a week or two ago. Simply create multiple primary dos partitions, install your dos of choice on each one, then just activate (either manually or via program) the partition you wish to boot each time you startup. On 5/16

Re: [Freedos-user] Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

If you need IDE drives, I have stacks of them, (one of the things I was able to rescue during our recent forced move). They're all different sizes, but I'd be willing to send you a box of them for the cost of shipping if you want them, since I no longer have any machines that can use them, (tho

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

On 3/15/2022 2:58 PM, Robert Riebisch wrote: Hi Travis, Is there no longer a gcc toolchain that runs under dos? There still is. I know there used to be a version of gcc and it's collective utilities that ran on dos, because I used to have it installed, many many years ago, but still. That'

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

On 3/14/2022 6:48 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 23:27, Travis Siegel wrote: How does one tell which version of WSL is in use? https://pureinfotech.com/check-wsl-version-windows-10/ The command: wsl -l -v ... should tell you. Only it doesn't.  It only lists the li

Re: [Freedos-user] GNU Cobol in the FreeDOS ...

On 3/14/2022 1:30 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: On 3/14/2022 10:22 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 18:12, Ralf Quint The main problem is that you will need the whole GCC tool chain for this to work... I did not know that GNU COBOL compiled to C when I answered, but yes, I agree, ultima

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

On 3/14/2022 9:34 AM, Sean Warner wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:08 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: Hi Travis, > (probably a silly question, but it would help me to be able to run dos > apps this way, unless someone has another free alternative that is > accessible). Ma

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

On 3/14/2022 7:40 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 06:17, Jim Hall wrote: Another free alternative is QEMU, which should be available (and probably already installed by default) in every major Linux distro. I don't see them as being the same thing at all. QEMU is a VM. Sure you

[Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

Ok, odd question, (lots of emulation), but I've got ubuntu 20.04 running under win10, using wsl.  I can't seem to get dosemu installed under that version of ubuntu (though it works fine under a real ubuntu system I have).  When I try to install dosemu under the ubuntu 20.04 running under wsl, i

Re: [Freedos-user] I never saw one

In general, dos allows 32 drives, a: to z:, then the next 6 ascii characters after the capital Z which are: [, \, ], ^,_,and `. I've never had more than 20 or 21 drives myself, (using an 18-disc disk changer along with a floppy drive and a hard disk). (possibly I had two floppies, or 2 hds, n

Re: [Freedos-user] Looking for easy to follow instructions on how to connect to Samba share

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure linux does have locking in various increments.  File locking being the easiest, then access to portions of said file.  You may need to use various interfaces to accomplish the tasks, but there are several programs I use regularly on linux that couldn't functio

Re: [Freedos-user] ECHO vs @ECHO

;t say for sure if they'd behave identically or not. On 2/26/2022 9:37 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: On 2/26/2022 9:14 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: On 26/02/2022 15:09, Travis Siegel wrote: Barring those solutions, you could always redirect the @echo off line to null, which would prevent it from

Re: [Freedos-user] ECHO vs @ECHO

On 2/26/2022 9:14 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: On 26/02/2022 15:09, Travis Siegel wrote: Barring those solutions, you could always redirect the @echo off line to null, which would prevent it from displaying on the screen. It would not, since the error message is output to stderr. That'

Re: [Freedos-user] ECHO vs @ECHO

Why not use the @echo off syntax, then simply use the cls command to clear the screen before moving on to the later pieces of the autoexec.  It then won't show the @echo off command onthe screen. The caveat of course is that all driver messages also get erased, but that may or may not be an is

Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot winth Windows 98

Not true. If both of the partitions are primary partitions, and the bootable flag is swapped from one to the other, then when one boots, the second will be drive d:, and vice versa.  I used to use the fdisk method all the time, I dual booted linux, and dos, so I see no reason why it wouldn't

Re: [Freedos-user] Difficulty with serial communications

s it won't help in this case. On 2/10/2022 5:50 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 14:17, Travis Siegel wrote: For what it's worth, the raspberry pi is an opensource board. That means you could easily build your own pi using components from the original, and have a company

Re: [Freedos-user] Difficulty with serial communications

For what it's worth, the raspberry pi is an opensource board. That means you could easily build your own pi using components from the original, and have a company produce the board for you. These days, that's really not all that expensive, since there's so many hobbiest creating home grown bo

Re: [Freedos-user] Jim at FOSDEM on Saturday

Yeah, me too, unfortunately, I won't be available on Saturday to listen to this live, but I'll look forward to the reply on the channel, please post when it's linked, and thanks for keeping dos interesting for the masses. On 2/3/2022 3:47 PM, Jim Hall wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2022, 18:13 Ji

Re: [Freedos-user] Difficulty with serial communications

One small correction here. Yes, there are 16 IRQ lines, only 9-16 are not generably accessible, so the pc or dos or something in hardware (not sure which) uses IRQ 2 to reach IRQs 9-16.  I was able to trick a couple network cards into working for me by using irq 9, but then setting the softwar

Re: [Freedos-user] Interesting comment by Walter Bright

I have built dmc++ from source, but it was for windows cli.  I haven't tried building a dos copy of the source.  Now that I'm settled in my new house, perhaps I can get one of my machines setup to handle dos (my other dos machine didn't make the move), and give it a shot. I know, an emulator w

Re: [Freedos-user] Interesting comment by Walter Bright

I actually have used that compiler, and while I didn't see anything to uphold the claim that it's the best, it certainly does hold it's own when it comes to size of executables, plus, if you buy a license, you can have the source, which is always nice. I've always been fascinated by compilers,

Re: [Freedos-user] Lilo, GRUB etc.

You can have up to 4 primary partitions on an hd, there's no need for an extended partition at all.  That way, you only need to make the partition you want to boot the active partition.  This may remove the need to have a linux install on the machine at all, (unless of course you want one).  I'

Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse /O

I believe the problem with the scroll wheel is that it doesn't generate an interrupt, so if the mouse driver doesn't specifically look for the scrool wheel, there's no way for the computer or operating system to know that it is being used.  I had a similar problem under windows several years ag

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

Ahh, thanks, that makes a lot of sense.  Wasn't aware such things were still the case these days, but these two messages answer the question sufficiently, thanks for that. On 1/1/2022 8:23 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 02:12, Travis Siegel wrote: supposedly, XP could h

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

Reminds me of my last XP machine, supposedly, XP could handle up to 4GB of ram, but when I installed 4GB in my machine, XP only saw 3.5GB.  No idea why, I never did find out what the technical reason was, but it was a commonly known problem, since almost everywhere I tried to get the ram from f

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On 12/31/2021 11:50 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 08:37, Thomas Mueller wrote: I remember OS/2 2.x and Warp could run emulated DOS and could also boot and run a specific DOS, but with limitations. I actually had a copy of OS/2 1.33 Extended edition.  If I recall correctly,

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

On 12/25/2021 11:47 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: from John Vella: I would like to connect to the Internet using FreeDOS, but I haven't found a compatible packet driver. Main purpose in connecting to the Internet from FreeDOS would be to prove it can be done. Obviously it *can* be done.  As men

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

Yes, 6.2, not 5.0 as I mentioned in my previous reply to this thread, thanks for that correction. On 12/25/2021 3:03 PM, tom ehlert wrote: That was caldera that released their opendos as opensource, not Microsoft. Caldera released Digital Research's DR DOS 7.01 as FOSS. It then changed its m

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

I did see msdos 5.0 source code online several years ago.  I'm fairly certain MS never released that as any kind of source distribution, but nonetheless, it's out there. On 12/25/2021 10:38 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 05:43, Travis Siegel wrote: That was ca

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

wouldn't have a problem with others doing it,but for me it would be yet another distraction. 😀 On Sat, 25 Dec 2021, 14:19 Travis Siegel, wrote: How very cool.  Wasn't aware that had been done.  Thanks for that.  Now I need to find some time to actually look at

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

On 12/24/2021 11:47 PM, Jon Brase wrote: This is much more recently than I think you're thinking: https://github.com/Microsoft/MS-DOS Dec 24, 2021 22:42:44 Travis Siegel : That was caldera that released their opendos  as opensource, not Microsoft. There were versions of ms dos that e

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

That was caldera that released their opendos  as opensource, not Microsoft. There were versions of ms dos that escaped into the wild, but it wasn't a sanctioned release from microsoft. On 12/24/2021 4:59 PM, Jim Hall wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 2:11 PM Jon Brase wrote: They're not talki

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

Someone really should tell these guys that dos is still widely used in industrial processes today, wonder what they'd say about that. :) On 12/24/2021 12:53 PM, Parodper wrote: O 24/12/21 ás 18:30, Ralf Quint escribiu: On 12/24/2021 4:48 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: The comment against open-sou

Re: [Freedos-user] Question about FreeDOS 3.0

Paragon software has a program that will allow you to clone a disk from a smaller to a larger disk with no problem, even the other way too, as long as the blank space on the disk allows the material to fit onto the disk itself. Also, the difference between 2fTB drives and larger ones is (mostl

Re: [Freedos-user] Announcements seen on BTTR: Lynx web browser, NDN file manager, DOSBOX emulator

On 11/24/2021 9:04 PM, dmccunney wrote: FTP is deprecated and is going away. It is ancient, ill maintained, and a yawning mass of security holes. Hmm, sounds like windows. HTTP is going away in favor of HTTPS, which adds encryption to the connection. SFTP never caught on. SCP is the pr

Re: [Freedos-user] ISO repack reduces size by 10%

I have never used slicer, so can't comment on it.  However, I have used rar for years, and I've never found a task it can't be made to do with proper command line parameters.  If you only want a specific file extracted, it's easy enough to tell it to use that file only, (or a range of files if

Re: [Freedos-user] reminder reminder?

For what it's worth, I received 6 copies. On 11/1/2021 7:45 AM, Jim Hall wrote: Interesting. I only received the one copy of the reminder email. But Bryan said he got multiple copies. I'm replying to the email list to see what others received. On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 3:47 AM E. Auer wrote:

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNET missing from FreeDOS 1.3-RC4

On 10/14/2021 4:06 AM, Jon Brase wrote: Oct 13, 2021 23:39:17 Jim Hall It appears that somewhere along the line, someone (at AMD?) had access to the sources, probably in a larger source tree, and ran a batch job or script to apply the "AMD" statement to a bunch of source files. And that happen

Re: [Freedos-user] MKEYB related stuff

On 10/11/2021 3:43 PM, Aitor Santamaría wrote: By definition, anything above 127 is not ASCII, so it will depend on the codepage. Still, it is extremely rare that people use more than one codepage on the same system AND have identical characters with different byte values depending

Re: [Freedos-user] Accessing real floppy drive after booting the LiveCD

Hmm, I was not aware of that, thanks for the info.  Always good to know possible causes of failure.  Now there's one more to add to the pile. On 8/20/2021 3:05 PM, geneb wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2021, Travis Siegel wrote: There are multiple issues here. First, if you want to use both f

Re: [Freedos-user] Accessing real floppy drive after booting the LiveCD

There are multiple issues here. First, if you want to use both floppy drives, your floppy cable must have both connections on it, since there is rarely more than a single floppy controller slot on a motherboard. Second, there needs to be 5 (if I remember correctly) pins reversed between driv

Re: [Freedos-user] Basic sound access in DOS.

Linux has supported ac97 soundcards for years, why can't dos have a .sys driver that can be loaded at boot time to do the same thing? there's a *lot* of motherboards that have ac97 support these days, well over 50%, and having a .sys driver to handle these kinds of boards would add a great de

Re: [Freedos-user] Abandonware site...

On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: > Anything from the 90's or earlier qualifies as ancient > software. In the software world, anything that is 3 years old > can be considered ancient. Commercial DOS software hasn't been > supported since the 90's. This statement is patently

Re: [Freedos-user] Abandonware site...

Copyright and abandon stuff are separate issues. It's certainly possible that software is abandon, and that nobody will come after you for using it. That does *not* however, mean the copyright on that software has been invalidated. If the copyright holder (whoever that may be) decided to enf

Re: [Freedos-user] was: Windows 3.1 - Pending kernel patches 2037/2038

On Apr 13, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Adam Norton wrote: > Also I remember from my pre dot net days using a program which would > inspect a dll and identify all the public methods/functions that it > has. > Would this be considered legal? If so anyone remember what that > program is/was? I used it at a

Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?

There's several editors with source, and several more that are still being supported (qedit and vedit for 2) any number of the source ones could easily be taken and included into freedos. One I particularly liked was called Great Little Word Processor (glwp) and came with pascal source. I

Re: [Freedos-user] Anyone know why 386 enhanced mode doesn't work Windows 3.1???

Com1/3 and 2/4 share the same irq. If you want to use them simultaneously, you'll need to change the irq they use. This would make them non-standard, but there are programs that can add com 3-4 to your bios port table area, and thus make them viewable by normal dos apps. I used to have i

Re: [Freedos-user] Is Windows 3.1 worth it and wordprocessing?

There's no technical reason open document formats couldn't be supported on 386-486 machines, after all, the format itself has nothing to do with the cpu usage. As for using word perfect on windows 98se, I've done this on a 486- sx-66, and it worked just fine. I don't think you have to worry a

Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?

On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:52 PM, usul wrote: > There is always another way to do it. > > "receiving a long file name in a long file name format; > storing the received long file name in a first file entry of the tree > structure along with a file storage indicator indicating the location > of the fil

Re: [Freedos-user] patents - was: LFN in FreeDOS kernel? - was: aimed compatibility?

Personally, I fail to see how lfn could be patented in the first place. All it does is add a continuation char as the last letter of the filename, and if that char is there, then you include the next entry in the file table, and so on until thee is no more continuation characters, then you ha

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

Vmware does indeed have file sharing, but you shouldn't need it. When you're running osx, you can simply copy any files you want for dos directly onto the dos partition. Vmware will then pick those up when you dir the disk. You can copy and paste between vmware and osx, but I've not tried it,

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

To boot from cd on a mac, hold down the C key while the mac is booting. It will then boot from the CD, and you can install as normal. However, this shouldn't be necessary, there are vm images already on the net you should be able to download one for freedos, and just drop it into your hd, an

Re: [Freedos-user] What can I use to access gopher servers from FreeDOS?

I use lynx for most dos web browsing, it works with all kinds of urls, including gopher. The version I use is from fdisk.com, he no longer updates/fixes it, but it's still a fairly stable release. -- Create and Deploy

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS & Sound

I'm not sure exactly what you're hunting for, but I've got lots of old sound cards (as well as other hardware, modems, video cards, and so on) and would be more than willing to send you one for the cost of shipping. They're all sitting in my work shop, and I don't have enough computers to p

Re: [Freedos-user] dd for DOS?

On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Jonathan W. wrote: > Sorry for jumping in at the last minute, but to encrypt something in > RAM, wouldn't you need an external hardware-based encryption > algorithm to run the data through when inputting/outputting? > Otherwise, when a program loads data from th

Re: [Freedos-user] dd for DOS?

Now, I'm surprised they didn't carry this research a few steps farther. The claim is always made that if computers didn't need to refresh their memory, they wold be magnitudes faster. Why not build a computer (liquid helium cooled) that does exactly what they tested in this experiment. I.E. no

Re: [Freedos-user] dd for DOS?

While we're talking about memory and 386 extenders and the like, I'd like to ask a question that has bugged me for years. In creating a multi-tasking dos,, why doesn't someone just create a version of dos which spawns a whole new virtual 386 machine for each application that is launched at th

Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS

> > PS: I remember writing a similar "viewer" for RTF once in > Pascal, kind of crude but useful. Anybody wanna revive it? Certainly, pass it over here. I'll release dos and osx versions (and linux too if I can get another linux box up and running) Fpc is great. --

Re: [Freedos-user] Poll and ideas compressed filesystem

On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Ray Davison wrote: > You may have overlooked one dependency, not of the functional type you > listed but an add-on necessary for a browser to be usable today: > Flash. I disagree. Flash may be everywhere, but I'd hardly call it an essential browser component. I

Re: [Freedos-user] Poll and ideas compressed filesystem

I think a compressed file system is a good idea, for reasons mentioned before. (take your point about being bootable, or compressed, but not both) One thing I'd like to see with a compressed file system though, (which is something none of the others ever did) is instead of showing projected f

Re: [Freedos-user] Poll and ideas compressed filesystem

On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Robert Riebisch wrote: > Eric Auer wrote: > >> - would you want a compressed filesystem to be writeable? > > The question to me is: Would you want a compressed filesystem at all? > My discouraging answer: I just don't need it. > > I think, what FreeDOS needs for daily

Re: [Freedos-user] Octave (Matlab "clone")

I don't remember where, but several years ago, I did see a latex version that ran in dos. Of course, at the time, I had no use for it, so didn't bother to keep track of it. Perhaps someone else has information about it though. I have no idea what version it was, or what features it had, but it

Re: [Freedos-user] command line sector read and write tool?

If copying raw sector information is all you're after, then you can use rawrite, I used it many times to write out boot disks for booting linux file systems. I don't know of a dd version for dos (thought I'd used one, but it wasn't dd), though it shouldn't be difficult to make one. Don't know

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS-compatible modem dialer

The author of commo is no longer with us. He died a couple years ago, so unfortunately, there's no way to ask him for distribution changes. On the other hand, the source code for commo had been lost in a disk crash sometime before his death, so there would have been no way for him to release

[Freedos-user] ac97 soundchip and drivers

Has anyone fiddled with this kind of a setup? I have a laptop (ibm a30) and from what I can tell, it has an AC97 chip in it. I've not had much luck trying to get the sound working in this machine (or the network, but that's another issue/email) and I was wondering what I can do to get this to

Re: [Freedos-user] Using freedos to install win

If you have your system booting with freedos (whether from floppy or usb stick, doesn't matter) you can use the sys command to transfer the freedos os to the hd, then you should be able to reboot into the hd after removing the usb stick. If you have a working boot of freedos, all you need to

Re: [Freedos-user] Looking for a word processor...

On Sep 30, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Skyler Orlando wrote: > ...like Edit, but with word wrap. And, a substantially higher size > limit, if any. (multiple MB) > > Does anyone know of one? Preferably menu-oriented, not like Vi. I use one called qedit, (now called tse junior) and last I checked, it wa

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS as open source? (was - Re: Games report...)

I don't know about opensource, but there are versions of msdos 6.22 source floating around on the net. It appears to be a complete source version, including things like qbasic as well as all the kernel code and such. Perhaps it's escape wasn't entirely accidental? In any case, I know that me

Re: [Freedos-user] Games report...

On Sep 21, 2008, at 3:11 AM, Der kleine Beitrag eines Computeranwenders (Users) wrote: > Am Sonntag, 7. September 2008 schrieb Travis Siegel: >> since there's caldera's opendos, >> pts dos 2000, and others that are already opensource > > PTS DOS 2000 is open-s

Re: [Freedos-user] Games report...

On Sep 7, 2008, at 3:32 AM, Michael Reichenbach wrote: > Mateusz Viste schrieb: >>> Frankly, I'd like to see Microsoft forced to open source it's >>> abandoned operating systems. If Microsoft can do something totally >>> different like Vista, there's no excuse for keeping something >>> ancient

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