On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 17:42:09 +1000
Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
> it would be incredibly instructional to see it all in one defining
> document
great, but this list is not the place, take it elsewhere
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Hi Andrew:
I too have experienced "acquired disability" (traumatic head injury in a street
attack) so I feel I can empathise with some of the alienation you feel as a result of
being affected by discriminatory events - both real and imagined.
My autism causes strife.
I also would like to
Dear Karen,
there have been many instances in the past where able-bodied and
differently-enabled experts have worked together in the FreeDOS threads for a
common good. I am distressed to have witnessed the escalating discord between
two of such proponents. I too have experienced "acquired
Dear Karen:
we shall see what I can and cannot do legally.
Roping in the world, is a fool's errand. Just raise awareness of human
factors in design.
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Dear Karen:
Liam could have made his point about reactions to Linux issues, without
using my name, or making statements about my motivations.
Distraction can relieve stress.
That he chose to do so, in spite of my statements to the contrary, and
that he dismissed details after the fact
Hi Liam:
I am not interested into entering into debates about your medical claims.
Tech includes human factors.
I do not live in your country and never have, so I doubt you could sue
me if I had said anything actionable, which I have not.
This is a mailing list. It cannot be edited. What
Thanks, Karen, for the detailed explanation:
Most folk aren't disabled. Then they can't understand it.
Please write a guide for software folk. As disability is weakly known.
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 12:17:58 -0400 (EDT)
Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Eric,
> Liam could have made his point about reactions to Linux issues,
> without using my name, or making statements about my motivations.
is there some reason why this can't be taken off-list?
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I am copying/pasting my comment from the original thread, so it is
also seen here:
I need to remind everyone of the list rules, linked on
https://www.freedos.org/forums/ and that point to
http://freedos.sourceforge.net/freedos/lists/remind.txt
>We have only a few rules for posting to the
I need to remind everyone of the list rules, linked on
https://www.freedos.org/forums/ and that point to
http://freedos.sourceforge.net/freedos/lists/remind.txt
>We have only a few rules for posting to the FreeDOS mailing lists:
>
>1. NO HATE SPEECH OR BULLYING
>[..]
>
>2. NO PROMOTIONS OR SPAM
Eric,
Liam could have made his point about reactions to Linux issues, without
using my name, or making statements about my motivations.
That he chose to do so, in spite of my statements to the contrary, and
that he dismissed details after the fact speaks of slander, perhaps even
intention
'Culture' at large really is knocking on the door of pravda+izvestia.
That's my 'suffering' through this thread...
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 11:39 AM Eric Auer wrote:
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> Karen, Jim,
>
> threatening legal actions against people who misunderstand
> your suffering is not appropriate. At all. It
Karen, Jim,
threatening legal actions against people who misunderstand
your suffering is not appropriate. At all. It makes me sad
that getting computers to cooperate with you is so hard,
and I am sorry for making bad or stupid suggestions in
that context, but none of us is engaging in "slander".
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote:
we shall see what I can and cannot do legally.
Karen's gonna Karen I guess.
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we shall see what I can and cannot do legally.
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Liam Proven wrote:
I am not interested into entering into debates about your medical claims.
I do not live in your country and never have, so I doubt you could sue
me if I had said anything actionable, which I have not.
I am not interested into entering into debates about your medical claims.
I do not live in your country and never have, so I doubt you could sue
me if I had said anything actionable, which I have not.
This is a mailing list. It cannot be edited. What is sent is sent and
it cannot be changed.
If
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Liam Proven wrote:> Unfortunately a lot of people are very
technologically conservative.
Once they find something they like, they will stay with it at all
costs. Like Karen here: she likes DOS, she likes her hardware screen
reader, and she wants the world to come to her and
Dear Karen:
Very much so, part of why asking, rather than assuming anything about
another human being is wise.
I'd like you to write up your insights. Launch a thread on software
access for the disabled.
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Very much so, part of why asking, rather than assuming anything about
another human being is wise.
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
Hi Karen:
Thanks for the info. The disabled are varied. And one's life experience is
subjective.
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Hi Carsten,
I also use a Python script to access online media such as
youtube, called youtube-dl. It often needs to be updated
to work with the newest changes on youtube, but it also
works with a number of other websites including various
media libraries of TV and radio stations. So I like the
Hi Liam:
Unfortunately a lot of people are very technologically conservative.
Once they find something they like, they will stay with it at all
costs. Like Karen here: she likes DOS, she likes her hardware screen
reader, and she wants the world to come to her and interoperate with
her obsolete
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 03:56, Eric Auer wrote:
>
> PS Liam: I am surprised that you have so much experience
> with screen readers, so maybe you could share some ideas
> about which of the free Linux TTS engines have which
> strengths and weaknesses based on what both you and
> the users you know
Hi Eric:
I do have some experience with writing a simple adapter
for Dutch text to speech long ago, so I am actually aware
of the limitations of the technology. Even now, youtubers
who prefer to stay anonymous use annoyingly artifically
sounding speech engines. I think I even have a chip from
Hello Karen,
On 25 Jun 2021, at 4:46, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> I use sshdos to reach a Ubuntu shell, but even in Ubuntu the links and elinks
> JavaScript falls short in places, especially if cloudflare is being used.
do you know "browsh"?
https://www.brow.sh/
It is an up-to-date browser based
Hi Karen,
On 24 Jun 2021, at 23:49, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Links for DOS, for what it is, opens some doors, but not all, something I
> would happily pay to see corrected.
I know the tunein.com website (I've used it myself from time to time).
I use a command line application (on MacOS) to
Hi Karen:
Thanks for the info. The disabled are varied. And one's life experience
is subjective.
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Eric,
clearly you do not know the difference between software and hardware
speech, if you can even suggest I risk myself ..again, by talking of Linux
below.
The only point I will speak to is one that echos your own.
If Links incorporated additional forms of JavaScript then the one used,
same
Karen,
I was not aware that Linux screen reader voices trigger seizures.
Nobody is forcing you to use those, or even to use Linux at all.
Not sure why exactly mentioning Braille is evil. The underlying
software infrastructure task is the same: Take text from an app
and transform it to another
Hi, Liam:
Disability is a subject that was not taught in my schooling. And some of
it "does not show on X-Rays! Best wishes with your learning of the human
condition.
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One more point.
According to my file of posts, I joined the freedos list in 2009.
If after more than a decade, Eric or anyone else believes that a shared
label equals a uniformed experience where sight loss or any accessibility
situation is concerned, you have likely earned my venom as
Liam,
1. Eric and I have been through these exchanges before...going back years,
2. He did not ask, simply said, in spite of my statement otherwise, that I
could use Linux..as if I do not know, living in this body, what I can or
cannot use.
3. I need not demonstrate what only applies to
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 23:50, Karen Lewellen wrote:
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> As for your frankly disturbing stereotypes and generalizations about
> adaptive technology and the individuals using it, well, I would hope you
> would not tell someone to do themselves physical harm to satisfy your
> stereotypes, something
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 14:38, Eric Auer wrote:
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> This is not true for apps which use DOS extenders. Those
> can use several gigabytes of memory. There even are some
> proof of concept extenders which let you use more than
> 4 GB of RAM.
OK, good point. I hadn't considered that.
I still think
Eric,
First, speaking personally I can confirm your statement about memory. I
currently
have almost a gig of memory is this MS. dos only computer, only needing
to patch a software program once to insure it ran smoothly.
As for your frankly disturbing stereotypes and generalizations about
Hi Liam,
> There is no modern browser for DOS -- but more to the point, there
> never will be.
There is for example Dillo, which is not bad, but graphical:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fltk-dos/
> A DOS app can be a maximum of about 620-630k of memory.
This is not true for apps which use
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 at 03:36, Karen Lewellen wrote:
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> If so, what are you using for browser and playback?
There is no modern browser for DOS -- but more to the point, there
never will be.
A DOS app can be a maximum of about 620-630k of memory. A modern
browser can take approaching 1000× more
Hi folks,
Anyone successfully making direct use of the tunein.com site,
www.tunein.com
On a machine running freedos as the only operating system?
If so, what are you using for browser and playback?
I stress again that I am not interested in anyone doing this by running
freedos as a virtual
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