Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Peter Nixon
On Tue August 5 2003 08:32, SIMICRO ML wrote: > Peter Nixon wrote: > > On Tue August 5 2003 06:37, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > Its like saying that example B is faster than example A in the following > > scenario: > > > > A) You need to call your girlfriend. You know her number, so you dial it >

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread SIMICRO ML
Peter Nixon wrote: On Tue August 5 2003 06:37, Evren Yurtesen wrote: Its like saying that example B is faster than example A in the following scenario: A) You need to call your girlfriend. You know her number, so you dial it and talk to her. B) You need to call your girlfriend, You don't know

RE: Interface with standard wireless access point

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Brown
FreeRADIUS will also work with Linksys, D-Link, and Belkin lower price-point AP/wireless routers. (Belkin only supports RADIUS in it's WPA-enabled wl router.) Quoting Puneet B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Will free radius work with any standard wireless > > access point that has a built in radius

RE: Interface with standard wireless access point

2003-08-04 Thread Puneet B
> Will free radius work with any standard wireless > access point that has a built in radius client such > as Aironet, Orinoco, colubris etc? i.e can it be used > as a server to authenticate users coming through any > of the standard radius-supported access point? Any > help will be appreciated

Interface with standard wireless access point

2003-08-04 Thread Wireless Orbit Inc
Hello all, Will free radius work with any standard wireless access point that has a built in radius client such as Aironet, Orinoco, colubris etc? i.e can it be used as a server to authenticate users coming through any of the standard radius-supported access point? Any help will be appreciated! M

RE: Experimental modules

2003-08-04 Thread Ed H
I am having the same problem installing --with-experimental-modules for version 0.9.0. Has this been fixed, or is there a workaround? Ed This means the 'experimental module' cannot be configured without the user specifically going to that directory and changing the execution permission bit, rig

RE: Upgrade Problems - WAS: dictionary not being installed

2003-08-04 Thread Ed H
That did not work either; same error. From: "Roger Sherwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Upgrade Problems - WAS: dictionary not being installed Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 23:57:04 +0200 Try: "--with-experimental-modules=yes" Rog. -Original

RE: Upgrade Problems - WAS: dictionary not being installed

2003-08-04 Thread Roger Sherwood
Try: "--with-experimental-modules=yes" Rog. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed H Sent: 04 August 2003 23:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Upgrade Problems - WAS: dictionary not being installed Well I've been trying to debug and found

Re: Upgrade Problems - WAS: dictionary not being installed

2003-08-04 Thread Ed H
Well I've been trying to debug and found something interesting. When I run ./configure as with the "--with-experimental-modules" it won't configure and gives an error: /bin/sh: -c: line 1: `for mod in ; do what=all; [ "$what" = "all" Here is the configure statement with the error: ./configur

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Tim McCracken
I hit the wrong button - please see the remainder of message below. On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 15:55:46 -0500 "Tim McCracken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My numbers (atleast) were a joke. The reality of it is (IMHO) that benchmarks are only useful to marketing departments because they are rarely done

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Tim McCracken
My numbers (atleast) were a joke. The reality of it is (IMHO) that benchmarks are only useful to marketing departments because they are rarely done in an equitable manner. There are way too many differences to benchmark accross hardware platforms, and rarely does anyone tune OS parameters to m

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Tim McCracken
My numbers (atleast) were a joke. The reality of it is (IMHO) that benchmarks are only useful to marketing departments because they are rarely done in an equitable manner. There are way too many differences to benchmark accross hardware platforms, and rarely does anyone tune OS parameters to m

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Evren Yurtesen
How do you test this? or joke? :) I would like to keep record of my server performances relative to each other too, it sounds like a cool idea Evren Tim McCracken wrote: My testing confirms Alan's numbers, however he neglected to mention: Solaris: 2.5 VMS on Alpha: 8.0 :) On Mon, 04 Aug 200

Using sql_counter to limit session time within a 24 hour period

2003-08-04 Thread Roger Sherwood
Hi I'm running FreeRADIUS 0.81 with MySQL for auth and acct, all works dandy. I'm looking for some guidance on how to limit a user's session time (i.e. to 1 hour) within a 24 hour period and not reset the counter afterwards. My sqlcounter.conf looks like this (the "daily" counter provided in the

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Tim McCracken
My testing confirms Alan's numbers, however he neglected to mention: Solaris: 2.5 VMS on Alpha: 8.0 :) On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:07:58 -0400 "Alan DeKok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Evren Yurtesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Everybody argue about something and usually its so difficult to come to

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Alan DeKok
Evren Yurtesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Everybody argue about something and usually its so difficult to come to > a conclusion. Microsoft says windows is good, linux people say linux is > better, I say FreeBSD is best :) NetBSD... > Microsoft always says the newer version of windows works

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Matthew Schumacher
Sometimes this comes down to what you need it to do. I need a centralized user database platform wide so LDAP was the obvious choice so I ran that with detail accounting for a while but then I needed to do some bit counting and I also needed to calculate usage for the users. When it comes to t

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Steven Fries
I'm still confused why you're arguing over this...It's implemented both ways for a reason I assume. So if the flat file is so great, why even bother with SQL code? AH! Choice! Kudos to the dev team. You wrote: > On Mon August 4 2003 20:34, Steven Fries wrote: > > Maybe you're bot

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Evren Yurtesen
Ok lets make peace :) Everybody argue about something and usually its so difficult to come to a conclusion. Microsoft says windows is good, linux people say linux is better, I say FreeBSD is best :) Anyhow the hardware is so fast and cheap nowadays that we dont need to be so efficient :) It is

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Peter Nixon
On Mon August 4 2003 20:34, Steven Fries wrote: > Maybe you're both right? But who really wants to win a "Who's the bigger > nerd contest"? If I have a small set of users, I'm using the flat file. But > if my user list growsno doubt use SQL. The best thing for me is I don't > have to write fanc

RE: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Jeremy Davis
Killer analogy :) Jeremy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Nixon Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Advantages of Using SQL ? On Tue August 5 2003 06:37, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Well, if that is suc

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Gregory G. V.
Hello Do not forget fastuser The fastusers works fats... And can fit a lot of users into the memory... And if I remember correctly, uses hash. And do not forget the radius task is almost a read-only task -= in a normal environment you can not compare an amount of auth requests with an amount of req

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Peter Nixon
On Tue August 5 2003 06:37, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Well, if that is such a big problem then you can do a memory disk and > store your db files in memory disk. That would then definetely work > better than freeradius itself. How much are the memory prices now anyhow. You could. This again uses mor

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Tim McCracken
And dont forget that the SQL solution will use hashed indexes, usually even if you don't define them. So yes, small database will be faster as a flat file loaded in memory, but big databases will normally be faster from SQL due to cacheing of the hash and the user data. But then, maybe free

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Steven Fries
Maybe you're both right? But who really wants to win a "Who's the bigger nerd contest"? If I have a small set of users, I'm using the flat file. But if my user list growsno doubt use SQL. The best thing for me is I don't have to write fancy text handlers to parse through the users file, I ju

Password expiry checks in rlm_unix

2003-08-04 Thread Mike Cisar
Hi, Have been trying to work my way around an annoying little issue I'd been having in regards to (shadow) password expiries not being seen when using the rlm_unix module. (Freeradius 0.9.0 installed on a test Redhat 9 server) First off let me say that I am not an experienced C programmer so my

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Evren Yurtesen
Well, if that is such a big problem then you can do a memory disk and store your db files in memory disk. That would then definetely work better than freeradius itself. How much are the memory prices now anyhow. About the operating system stuff, the load of exchanging few messages in memory can

Upgrade Problems - WAS: dictionary not being installed

2003-08-04 Thread Ed H
If anyone has a clue, it would be most helpful. I am ugrading from freeradius-0.8.1 to freeradius-0.9..0 on Redhat Linux 7.2, using MySQL for a backend dbase. For "configure" i used: ./configure --localstatedir=/var --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-ltdl-install --with-rlm-mysql-lib-dir=/usr/local/

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Peter Nixon
On Tue August 5 2003 05:34, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Thats totally wrong, so you say same cpu works on both db lookups and > freeradius, now when freeradius is making a lookup inside users file > which is in ram, the same cpu doesnt work on db lookups in memory or > what? so thats out of question.

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Evren Yurtesen
Thats totally wrong, so you say same cpu works on both db lookups and freeradius, now when freeradius is making a lookup inside users file which is in ram, the same cpu doesnt work on db lookups in memory or what? so thats out of question. but mysql is optimized for that kind of lookups, there

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Peter Nixon
On Mon August 4 2003 19:01, Andrea Coppini wrote: > > DB backends are good, and save alot of admin, but don't expect them to > > be > > > faster than a memory scan :-) > > I haven't done any tests, but I would presume an SQL backend would be > more 'robust' than freeradius. > > The way I see it, ha

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Graeme Hinchliffe
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:01:07 +0200 "Andrea Coppini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > DB backends are good, and save alot of admin, but don't expect them to > be > > faster than a memory scan :-) > > > I haven't done any tests, but I would presume an SQL backend would be > more 'robust' than freera

RE: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Andrea Coppini
> DB backends are good, and save alot of admin, but don't expect them to be > faster than a memory scan :-) I haven't done any tests, but I would presume an SQL backend would be more 'robust' than freeradius. The way I see it, having 1 request a minute is definitely faster with a users file in

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Peter Nixon
On Mon August 4 2003 21:53, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > think about it yourself, > > -easy data manipulation, > -reload of freeradius is not needed > -nice web interface dialup_admin > -you can make your own web interface with php easily with sql connectivity. Yes. These are all correct.. > These are

Re: dictionary not being installed

2003-08-04 Thread Ed H
Why would it isntall the first time (v. 0.8.1) and not the upgrade (v. 0.9.0)? Any suggestions? Ed From: "Alan DeKok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dictionary not being installed Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 12:12:20 -0400 "Ed H" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Document on FreeRadius?

2003-08-04 Thread Alan DeKok
Zoup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > where can i found some complex documents (!) about free radius ? > its cool ! :) but i need help ;) The server comes with documentation. The web site has a FAQ, some how-to's, and a pointer to a book from O'Reilly. There is no "secret treasure trove" of do

Re: Group membership in "users" file

2003-08-04 Thread Alan DeKok
Eric Leblond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did not manage to find how to group users using only the users file. You can't. It's impossible. Use 'rlm_passwd', instead. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

Re: latest cvs unable to compile

2003-08-04 Thread Alan DeKok
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > latest cvs versions of freeradius could not compile It's a known problem. I'll commit a fix today or tomorrow. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

Re: attribute utility

2003-08-04 Thread Oliver Graf
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:26:55PM +0200, labis siegfried wrote: > It is not indicate in this file and i don'ti find where the explication of > this attribute is. Try to search for it in doc/README... In the new style file, you can define multiple DEFAULT entries. All entries are processed i

RE: Document on FreeRadius?

2003-08-04 Thread Bas Vogels
on witch debian? Greetz :) Bas "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" -- Albert Einstein." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoup Sent: maandag 4 augustus 2003 15

Re: attribute utility

2003-08-04 Thread labis siegfried
It is not indicate in this file and i don'ti find where the explication of this attribute is. A 10:29 04/08/03 +0200, vous avez écrit : On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 10:15:51AM +0200, labis siegfried wrote: > what is the attribute "fall-through" in users file? i don't understand the > utility of this a

Document on FreeRadius?

2003-08-04 Thread Zoup
hi guys :) where can i found some complex documents (!) about free radius ? its cool ! :) but i need help ;) mant thanks :) -- Wish You Were Here ... - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Vector
greater ability to manage and scale up. vec - Original Message - From: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:43 AM Subject: Advantages of Using SQL ? > hi, > > im a freeradius newbie but i was wondering if there are any major advantages >

Re: Querry Regarding Radius server running

2003-08-04 Thread Oliver Graf
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 03:10:48PM +0530, Rudramuni PH wrote: > Hi > > I have some problem in server testing. Do you think that posting the same thing multiple time will get you a faster answer? The answer is: no. It only gets you faster into blacklists... And: perhaps it would be helpfull to a

Querry Regarding Radius server running

2003-08-04 Thread Rudramuni PH
Hi I have some problem in server testing. 1 I have installed the README-radius-1.2.0 on Linux 7.2. 2. I am testing server as for the the Radius faq document i.e 4.12 Debugging it yourself. If you're REALLY interested in knowing how to debug the RADIUS server yourself, then the following step

error running freeradius (libcrypto.so) with EAP-TLS

2003-08-04 Thread Alex
I am trying to make FreeRadius 0.8.1 work with EAP-TLS and this error message is shown when running "run-radiusd -X -A" as specified in http://www.impossiblereflex.com/8021x/eap-tls-HOWTO.htm /usr/local/sbin/radiusd: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/local/ssl/lib/libcrypto.so: cannot ope

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Evren Yurtesen
think about it yourself, -easy data manipulation, -reload of freeradius is not needed -nice web interface dialup_admin -you can make your own web interface with php easily with sql connectivity. These are what I can think of at the moment. I also think it would be faster than using users file and

Re: Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Oliver Graf
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 10:43:01AM +0200, Patrick wrote: > hi, > > im a freeradius newbie but i was wondering if there are any major advantages > to running freeradius on an sql auth system or not ? other than of course > the obvious stuff like being able to replicate the tables etc... online cha

Advantages of Using SQL ?

2003-08-04 Thread Patrick
hi, im a freeradius newbie but i was wondering if there are any major advantages to running freeradius on an sql auth system or not ? other than of course the obvious stuff like being able to replicate the tables etc... Thanks P - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/

Re: Group membership in "users" file

2003-08-04 Thread Eric Leblond
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 22:38, Navid Sheikhol Eslami wrote: > I guess my approach was just wrong then :) > > Any suggestion to do the same thing, but with a different Check > attribute? :) Same question ! I did not manage to find how to group users using only the users file. Thanks in advance, --

Re: attribute utility

2003-08-04 Thread Oliver Graf
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 10:15:51AM +0200, labis siegfried wrote: > what is the attribute "fall-through" in users file? i don't understand the > utility of this attribute read doc/README - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

attribute utility

2003-08-04 Thread labis siegfried
what is the attribute "fall-through" in users file? i don't understand the utility of this attribute thanks a lot siegfried - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

Querr Regarding RADIUS server Debuging

2003-08-04 Thread Rudramuni PH
Hi I have some problem in server testing. 1 I have installed the README-radius-1.2.0 on Linux 7.2. 2. I am testing server as for the the Radius faq document i.e 4.12 Debugging it yourself. If you're REALLY interested in knowing how to debug the RADIUS server yourself, then the following step