Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-17 Thread Marcin Wichary
Speaking of BTO displays... "Apple Computer may be planning to offer PowerBooks with higher density displays, and may have intended to do so with its latest PowerBook offerings, tipsters tell AppleInsider." http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=886 Marcin Wichary e:\> [EMAIL PROTE

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-16 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 4:42 pm -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: >>> You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but >>> consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP >>> has >>> dozens of different models. In fact, bloat at HP is so bad you can >>> find o

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: I am not that familiar with Apple's "middle years" in terms of offered products, but practically all the lines right now (iMac, iBook, Power Mac, PowerBook) feature many models (usually differing by screen size), each one available in one or mor

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 16, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Tim Hodgson wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 3:54 pm -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP has dozens of different models. In fact, bloat

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/16/05 10:12 AM, "Marcin Wichary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Then neither will the profitability. IBM has been losing GOBS of money >> doing things this way. >> >> This is why one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back >> to Apple was reduce the model line to 4. The complexit

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-16 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 3:54 pm -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >You want to look at bloat, look closely at Dell (not just consumer but >consumer, small business, and enterprise) or even better yet HP. HP has >dozens of different models. In fact, bloat at HP is so bad you can find one >basic compu

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-16 Thread Marcin Wichary
Then neither will the profitability. IBM has been losing GOBS of money doing things this way. This is why one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was reduce the model line to 4. The complexity's crept up, and now the model line is 5 again, but it's a rational 5. Well,

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 01:01 PM, Andrew wrote: Then they got a very good deal, as the ThinkPad brand has SERIOUS equity. Hopefully, they maintain the same quality level (shouldn't be hard as they are already made in China) and keep the same philosophy. I know they also got the IBM de

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Andrew F. wrote: Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded security and finger print readers.

OT - Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
Just looked it up. Lenova has a 5-year-license on the "Think" names, including ThinkPad, and that is renewable. Also, IBM will continue to sell the machine, only Lenovo will be the primary manufacturer (IBM owns an 18% stake in Lenovo. There will still be IBM ThinkPads for years to come, but

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
On 15 Feb 2005 at 20:41, Marcin Wichary wrote: > > I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads > > have > > been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will > > change > > other than the location of the headquarters. > > I believe they sold the who

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Marcin Wichary
I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads have been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change other than the location of the headquarters. I believe they sold the whole thing, and Lenovo can use ThinkPad brand for five years to come.

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew F.
I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure. Anyway, ThinkPads have been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change other than the location of the headquarters. ThinkPads have always been profitable, but my take is that IBM wants to sell eCommerce solutions, whi

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 15/02/05 12:44, "Andrew F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with > the Dell brand. Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and > you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen > size,

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew F.
That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with the Dell brand. Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded secu

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
Re. BTO Compare a PowerBook to a Dell Laptop!! At Dell you can configure your laptop just about any way you want and it is designed around this concept, while the PowerBook is designed the way all good Macs have always been designed, to be the way the design guys thought best, and so far it's obvio

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-14 Thread Marcin Wichary
The expense is not going to be that high, since Apple can mass produce. As I said before, I'd pay extra just to have a BTO for the features I need. What would be nice is dual expansion bays and ports on the back. Not asking for too much, is it? With today's technology, third party companies

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Zoltan Batiz
On Feb 13, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: At 4:10 PM -0800 2/13/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Who cares about cost. . . Apple, if they want to stay in the portable computer business. The PowerBooks are already very more expensive than a PC notebook (and worth every penny, IMO) and Apple can

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
At 4:10 PM -0800 2/13/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Who cares about cost. . . Apple, if they want to stay in the portable computer business. The PowerBooks are already very more expensive than a PC notebook (and worth every penny, IMO) and Apple can't depend on us to buy a new one every six months to

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On the comment of cost. . .I wasn't talking about the end product cost, I was talking about manufacturing cost that Apple would have to shell out, hence the remark to how much $$ they have made on iPod/iTunes Music Store just in the last year. I've got one

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Zoltan Batiz
On Feb 13, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some say the space is for speakers, etc. Please; look at other PB's, like the Pismo. Uh, yeah, but LISTEN to the AlBooks ... --- A lot of my clients comment on how "sexy" my Pismo is. It's almost too tempting

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some say the space is for speakers, etc. Please; look at other PB's, like the Pismo. Uh, yeah, but LISTEN to the AlBooks ... --- A lot of my clients comment on how "sexy" my Pismo is. It's almost too tempting to comment... --- Apple should offer different la

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Zoltan Batiz
Boy did I wake up this list with this thread! As far as my comments on poorly designed keyboard on the 17", I meant that Apple was trying to promote the 17" as not only a portable computer, but a viable replacement for a desktop computer. On that note, I felt they wasted space on the sides of

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 9:53 pm +0100, Larry le Mac wrote: >The AlBook's hinges among the best, nah, the best I've seen. As Mao said of the French Revolution, "too early to say" :) -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | R

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Larry le Mac
From: John McGibney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The only complaint I have about port placement is that there is one USB port on each side & not together. One of the coolest features IMO and experience, suits me! Larry _ Express yourself insta

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Larry le Mac
From: "Tim Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But given the screen hinge design, it's hard to see what they could do... Shows they've learned something from the TiBook hinges, and G3s for that matter. The AlBook's hinges among the best, nah, the best I've seen. Larry

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Andrew
It is also probably the best keyboard that Apple has ever put on a laptop. Actually, it may be the best that ANYONE has ever put on a laptop, with only IBM ThinkPads giving it any real competition. I think looking back, the best-feeling keyboard (nice action, few typos, high speed) was on my

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Andrew
The 12" is really better in this area, which ALL ports on the left, and only the optical drive slot on the right. Andrew On 13 Feb 2005 at 10:55, John McGibney wrote: > > On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, "Zoltan Batiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I'm greedy > >> when it comes to screen real-esta

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Andrew
For actually using in multiple locations and the frequent set-up and take-down that entails, Apple's current design is about the best I've come across. I especially like the slot-loading drives (side mounted like on the 12" please) which is just the best when using the computer anyplace OTHE

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Marcin Wichary wrote: > It's a notebook. I would presume most people take it outside on daily > basis. I know I do and if you ask me, thumbs up for side ports. > Couldn't live without them now. Really? Guess that makes you on eof the 'living dead' for the past three years or

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Steve Fuller
Gee, we're what, nearly 15 years into the PowerBook revolution and still arguing about where the ports go. I can understand this to a degree. Practical people argue that the ports belong on the side where they are conveniently accessed. Neat freaks argue that ports belong in back out of sight. (G

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread John McGibney
> On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, "Zoltan Batiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm greedy >> when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. >> The 17" didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I >> couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first >>

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/12/05 11:12 PM, "Zoltan Batiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm greedy > when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. > The 17" didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I > couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first > laptop t

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 4:12 am -0800, Zoltan Batiz wrote: > I was about the purchase the new 15" PowerBook with the SuperDrive. >Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I >noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new >PB's are on the sid

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
FireWire drive so I can just stay sitting and easily plug and unplug those... Not to mention my friend that while trying to figure out where the serial port was (well it was 1994 and the Mac a PB 160 and the ADB and serial where very similar) felt over the desk and broke the screen... I was the

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a "reach around" unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. Fine but the P

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Zoltan Batiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The 17" didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. Uh ?! It has the smae keyboard as the 12" and the 15", full size, and the best PowerBook keyboard ever made!! IMO. I have a 12" and a 15" Alu. --- not to mention ports on the side. So that you d

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-13 Thread Marcin Wichary
Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a "reach around" unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. It's a notebook. I would presume most people take it

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 12/02/05 23:44, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Andrew F. wrote: > >> I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold >> my >> Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a >> ThinkPad) >> I do like the rear-moun

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-12 Thread Andrew F.
I use mine mostly as a portable (hence choosing the 12" over the 15 or 17), and rarely plug anything in at all, except for my iPod, camera or AC power. I never really got the whole "desktop replacement" thing. If I want to work at my desk, that's what my desktop Power Mac is for, which easily play

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-12 Thread Zoltan Batiz
On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Andrew F. wrote: I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actuall

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 12/02/05 23:12, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all, > > Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . > > I was about the purchase the new 15" PowerBook with the SuperDrive. > Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I > noticed at the last minute. Al

Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-12 Thread Andrew F.
I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actually plugging something in, like my iPod, camera o