On 2/15/10 9:28 AM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
That's great to know. I only have experience with the VIA Combo card
that isn't backwards compatible to OS 9, and also isn't very good in
OS X. I wouldn't recommend a VIA card
VIA Cards are usable only if the Mac has a system equal
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:38 AM, MaGioZal wrote:
Well, I think it is not *exactly* that way...;-)
The most important thing to remember is that non-VIA USB 2.0 PCI
cards (like
the NEC I am using here) will do work on Mac OS 9, because these
cards are
backward-compatible. Obviously there is no
On Feb 15, 2010, at 3:38 AM, MaGioZal wrote:
On 2/9/10 7:38 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
Also, in my mind there isn't really room for an ATA card in a Beige.
With only three PCI slots, you need one for the Radeon video card,
one
for a USB card, and one for a Firewire card.
On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kasey Smith wrote:
Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and has
an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the Molar
Mac (beige G3).
Yes, and I now remember WHY that is. The Beige Macs had an earlier
implementation of the
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kasey Smith wrote:
Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and
has an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the
Molar Mac (beige G3).
Yes, and I now remember WHY that is.
On Feb 9, 4:38 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
Another way to get quicker HD response is using XPF to boot from a
Firewire 400 external HD. This is cheap and gets rid of both the 1st 8
GB limit and the 128 GB limit, which only the ATA-133 card would also
do, but normally at
On Feb 12, 2010, at 5:11 PM, deadwinter wrote:
See, there you have piqued my interest. I also have a Beige G3 and I
have an OrangeMicro combo USB/FW card that I haven't installed yet.
The idea of cloning my existing 4GB system drive to a higher capacity
drive and putting that in a FW enclosure
On Feb 9, 5:39 pm, Gorka L Martinez Mezo g...@gmx.net wrote:
You could if there were such a thing. I've never heard of one. The
internal FW connector (on this card and on some PowerMacs) was intended
for FW drives, HDs whose interface was FW, not via an IDE convertor but
directly.
On Feb 9, 3:38 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
Also, in my mind there isn't really room for an ATA card in a Beige.
With only three PCI slots, you need one for the Radeon video card, one
for a USB card, and one for a Firewire card. If you boot OS 9, the USB
card MUST be an OHCI
On 09-02-2010 20:13, Gus, gusr...@comcast.net, wrote:
What is the maximum ram you can put into
the beige G3 Desktop?
In my grandson's beige G3 DT/300 are mounted 3 256MB - PC66 3.3v,
unbuffered, 8-byte, x64 non-parity 168-pin SDRAM (Low Profile) sticks.
Works flawlessly!
Jo Hissel
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I was considering upgrading my beige mac memory to its max and
referenced Mactracker for the specifications. It says that the max
memory is 192MB (apple) and 768mb (actual). I am not sure I
understand what that means. What is the maximum ram you can put into
the beige G3 Desktop?
On a related
On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Gus wrote:
What is the maximum ram you can put into the beige G3 Desktop?
768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66,
PC100, or PC133 SDRAM DIMM. Low-density means chips on both sides of
the module, meaning 16 chips total, 8 on each side;
On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Gus wrote:
I was considering upgrading my beige mac memory to its max and
referenced Mactracker for the specifications. It says that the max
memory is 192MB (apple) and 768mb (actual). I am not sure I
understand what that means. What is the maximum ram you can
768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66, PC100,
or PC133 SDRAM DIMM.
The 233Mhz Beige G3 desktop I recently resurrected (by simply changing the
PRAM battery!) has one 256, one 128 and one 32mb DIMMs since at least 2005
(when it was used for the last time).
I have
On Feb 9, 1:13 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote:
I was considering upgrading my beige mac memory to its max and
referenced Mactracker for the specifications.
Any other practical tips I should know before proceeding?
There have been some reports (I don't know how reliable) of folks who
On Feb 9, 1:59 pm, Gorka L Martinez Mezo g...@gmx.net wrote:
BTW, I found it SLOW. It`s running Mac OS 9,1 and has one 40Mb IBM
DeathStar HD built in 2001 replacing the original 4Mb unit supplied with the
machine.
The built-in IDE on the Beige is only 16 MB/s. It just begs for an
It is a tad slow.. But what I am using it for it not that processor
intensive, however it does require the memory to run properly. Seems
it spends most of its time scrolling out to virtual, finally starts
thrashing, and then requires a hard reset. :(
So tiger with 192 mb doesn't get it done..
Thanks for tips!!
On Feb 9, 1:26 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Gus wrote:
What is the maximum ram you can put into the beige G3 Desktop?
768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66,
PC100, or PC133 SDRAM DIMM. Low-density means
On 2/9/10 12:23 PM, t...@io.com wrote:
On Feb 9, 1:59 pm, Gorka L Martinez Mezog...@gmx.net wrote:
BTW, I found it SLOW. It`s running Mac OS 9,1 and has one 40Mb IBM
DeathStar HD built in 2001 replacing the original 4Mb unit supplied with the
machine.
The built-in IDE on the Beige is
Gus,
When you're shopping for RAM for a Desktop Beige, make sure to buy
low profile RAM, as the full size sticks will not allow the top
portion of the casing to snap into place. I own one of these, too,
and it's been a problem in the past. OWC has these for less than $16
(no affiliation,
On Feb 9, 2010, at 2:23 PM, t...@io.com wrote:
The built-in IDE on the Beige is only 16 MB/s. It just begs for an
ATA-133 PCI card, although cable routing is a pain.
An ATA-133 card is going to be limited to ATA-66 speed because of the
bus limitations of the Beige. The only advantage of
On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Da'Birdman wrote:
Gus,
When you're shopping for RAM for a Desktop Beige, make sure to buy
low profile RAM, as the full size sticks will not allow the top
portion of the casing to snap into place.
There is a semi easy fix for this. The fan shroud for the power
It is a tad slow.. But what I am using it for it not that processor
intensive, however it does require the memory to run properly. Seems
it spends most of its time scrolling out to virtual, finally starts
thrashing, and then requires a hard reset. :(
I checked and saw the machine was
Another way to get quicker HD response is using XPF to boot from a
Firewire 400 external HD. This is cheap and gets rid of both the 1st 8 GB
limit and the 128 GB limit, which only the ATA-133 card would also do,
but normally at higher total cost and less usage flexibility.
Now you mention
On 2/9/10 2:23 PM, Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote:
Another way to get quicker HD response is using XPF to boot from a
Firewire 400 external HD. This is cheap and gets rid of both the 1st 8
GB limit and the 128 GB limit, which only the ATA-133 card would also
do, but normally at higher total cost
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Subject: Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low
I think you mean 4GB and 40GB. My G3 here also has a 40GB in it :D
Yup! I was on RAM size mode while writing :-)
Gorka from Spain
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You could if there were such a thing. I've never heard of one. The
internal FW connector (on this card and on some PowerMacs) was intended
for FW drives, HDs whose interface was FW, not via an IDE convertor but
directly. Such drives never materialized.
Thanks for the answer! It makes a lot
On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote:
You could if there were such a thing. I've never heard of one.
The internal FW connector (on this card and on some PowerMacs) was
intended for FW drives, HDs whose interface was FW, not via an IDE
convertor but directly. Such
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