I hooked up this G4 Power Mac M5183 that I've been working on to the HP
w2338h Monitor with the original video card that came with the Tower when new,
my first boot the resolution was 1440x900 @ 59 Hertz (it was calibrating on
boot) then we shut it down and rebooted and it calibrated again,
I'm having a similar problem. Or I did. I tried to put in a pci
graphics card. Oooops. Looking at the back of the G4 - the
configuration is for AGP graphics. I had a spiffy AGP graphics card w/
256 MB of Video Ram. But it wouldn't fit into the AGP graphics slot.
now it boots and works, but it only
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Subject: Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???
I'm having a similar problem. Or I did. I tried to put in a pci
graphics card. Oooops. Looking at the back of the G4 - the
configuration is for AGP graphics. I had a spiffy AGP graphics card w/
256 MB of Video Ram. But it wouldn't
Hey Matt, I am in the process I trying to figure this out and you might be
right, the only thing with this link is the card they show is red and mine is
green... I will figure it out, and I will try to flash this on my daughters
old PC Tower if that needs to be done... I do love a
Ok I got everything up and running now but I still can not get the video
card to work, the computer won't even boot up... The video card I got for it is
a: PNY Tech Inc GeForce FX5200 DDR 128mb I tried running the disc that came
with it and there isn't any download for the Apple only PC's,
On Sep 8, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:
The video card I got for it is a: PNY Tech Inc GeForce FX5200 DDR 128mb I
tried running the disc that came with it and there isn't any download for the
Apple only PC's, how do I get this to work???
It has to be flashed for the Mac.
On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Richard Gerome wrote:
Ok I got everything up and running now but I still can not get the
video card to work, the computer won't even boot up... The video
card I got for it is a: PNY Tech Inc GeForce FX5200 DDR 128mb I
tried running the disc that came with it and
Richard,
You got a PC video card, which won't work at all in a Mac. It's that
simple. (Maybe it could work, but it would need to be flashed
beforehand using a PC, so that's out for now.) You need to put back
the old video card for the computer to work.
Your G4 is a Digital Audio, if I'm not
On Sep 8, 3:11 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
You're going to need to enable LBA48 support so that the full 250GB is
recognized.
Kris,
Kudos for the great detailed info. I didn't know anything about the
firmware fix or Overdrive.
Thanks!
Felix
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On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 20:24 -0400, Richard Gerome wrote:
Thanks Bruce, it was the video card swapped in the old one and will download
the OS to the new HD and then download the disc that came with the video card
then put the new one back in and hope it will boot up then... Very cool!!!
Hey everyone!!! I got all the new stuff in this computer (a lot easier then
laptops) and now the computer won't even boot up??? Is this machine the one
that is known for the power button going bad??? I had this running last month
without any problems... I am borderline of putting all the
On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Richard Gerome wrote:
Hey everyone!!! I got all the new stuff in this computer (a lot easier then
laptops) and now the computer won't even boot up??? Is this machine the one
that is known for the power button going bad??? I had this running last month
without
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Richard Gerome wrote:
Hey everyone!!! I got all the new stuff in this computer (a lot easier
then laptops) and now
On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Richard Gerome wrote:
No the only things I changed were the hard drive, DVD/CD super drive, more
memory, video card and an airport card... Used a 250G 7200rpm PATA hard drive
instead of the PCI card with a SATA drive... The CPU would be a processor
upgrade
Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
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Subject: Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???
On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Richard Gerome wrote:
No the only things I changed were the hard drive, DVD/CD super drive, more
memory, video
Thanks Clark, for those clear words!
and
Thanks James, for showing that it’s still a complicated business…
But I’m starting to understand it now, also from (previously mentioned
on this list, I know...) webpages like this one:
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Subject: Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Date:Donnerstag 05 August 2010N
From:Peter Kim pete...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Either way, I would also invest in a back-up drive via firewire.
Yes! Always make
Hi Rich,
I have 3 harddisks in my Digital Audio: 2 are 3,5 and 1 is
2,5 (connected with an adapter). So having several HDs is no problem.
But could someone in the know post a clear answer to this question: Do
large HDs work in the Digital Audio, with Tiger and/or Leopard? I’m
still doubtful
On 8/4/10 11:12 AM, Geke wrote:
Hi Rich,
I have 3 harddisks in my Digital Audio: 2 are 3,5 and 1 is
2,5 (connected with an adapter). So having several HDs is no problem.
But could someone in the know post a clear answer to this question: Do
large HDs work in the Digital Audio, with Tiger
will post that info when I
get it... Thanks again everyone!!!
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From: Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net
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To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Once again for anyone who doesn't know
The last PATAs I bought were $80 for 500GB. You can create 4
partitions of 125GB.
search eBay for [500gb pata] no brackets, and see what's there. For
maybe $5 more you'll have twice the space.
On Aug 3, 2:41 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote:
Ok I found this hard drive on
Also take a look on eBay at White Label Hard Drives. There are some
ATA/APATA still available. Usually, one year warranty but what I like
is that this are previously unused, clean, etc.
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Subject: Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Date:Dienstag 03 August 2010N
From:Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net
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Ok I found this hard drive on ebay for $75 with the shipping: 7200rpm
Thanks for that info Andreas!!! I was planning on getting a new one... I
also have another question can I keep the orig hard drive in there too (is
there 2 plugs in the ribbon for them I didn't notice if there was)??? This way
she can save stuff on that HD too... I don't know of any Prize
Rich,
Sorry for causing confusion about that M5183--this turns out to be
the model number on most all of the G4 PowerMacs...
(I had been confusing it with the Order Number all the time; a post
in another thread G4 identity brought the light today.)
So, it’s definitely a Digital Audio with a
Hi Rich,
This is a 466mhz and the Model# M5183 how this got like this is beyond me,
(I figured it to be a 400, 450 or 500) it comes up when I click on About
This Mac 466mhz and 896mb
Maybe a processor swap then? Still weird, because only the Digital
Audio and newer have 3 RAM slots like
Can you swap out just the processor without changing the mother board???
Maybe after I get this up and running we'll see how much faster it is and go
from there, if it is still too slow for her I will change out the processor
then???
-
Hi Rich,
This is a 466mhz and the Model# M5183
Rich,
If the processor is compatible with your motherboard, then by all
means, it's a pretty easy swap.
Felix
On Jul 30, 11:25 am, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Can you swap out just the processor without changing the mother board???
Maybe after I get this up and
Ends today. Newegg has the Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS
500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive for $56 - $16 off
with coupon code EMCYVNP29 [Exp 7/29] = $40 with free shipping.
Western Digital covers this product with a 3-year warranty.
On Jul 28, 12:27 am, Richard Gerome
Hi Rich,
Sorry to harp on this again, but I’m sure you want to use your
friend’s money as efficiently as possible, and if 120GB is enough for
her right now, then why spend more. From the other posts I’m still not
clear if a bigger-than-128GB HD will work at all, even when
partitioned.
The two
Hey Geke,
This is a 466mhz and the Model# M5183 how this got like this is beyond me,
(I figured it to be a 400, 450 or 500) it comes up when I click on About This
Mac 466mhz and 896mb and right now running Jaguar 10.2.8 (I put Jaguar in it a
few yrs ago) she only had OS 9.2.1... I have a
Rich,
Maxing out the memory is a good idea. I mean, 896Mb is good, but 2
gigs is great. So you are on the right track there.
SATA hard drives are bigger, cheaper and faster. Which means, if she
gets a SATA PCI card (which are about $50), she can both break the
128GB barrier and add a 1 TB hard
I loaded the OS to the SATA drive and ran benchmarking tests. The
improvements were minimal. In practice, pure HD moves were much
faster, SATA to SATA file moves, but things like video encode, as
others taught me, the bottleneck is not the HD, but the bus and/or
processor. So, I'm not trying to
On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:14 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:
I believe the 500GB drive can be partitioned to look like 4 125GB
drives if the 128GB limit is an issue.
If on a pre-QS 2002 model up to and including a QS 2001, you are
stuck with the 128 GB line.
All partitions below the 131,072 MB line
On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Peter Haas wrote:
Below that line, you may include as many partitions as you wish.
All may be bootable
Above that line, you may also include as many partitions as you
wish. None may be bootable.
On a QS 2002, or all later, every partition may be bootable.
Richard Gerome wrote:
Ok I got some pretty good input here and I think I will scratch the WD
because of all those some had that went bad... A few questions: What reason
would it be for using a SATA drive with the SATA PCI card??? The other
question: What is the best HD to use for the money
On 7/26/2010 4:55 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:
Did you know that until WWII there was no WWI? It was simply the great
war.
No, I did not know this. Thanks for telling me though. I suppose it
would have been suspicious to name the first war WW1, as it would
suggest someone somewhere was
It sounds like she's not shooting for TB storage.
Just get a 250GB or 500GB PATA, and call it quits.
Drive d\prices keep falling. If she needs more in a year, the SATA
card is still a choice.
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I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this
computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this is a new
one...
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
3.0Gb/s 3.5 Internal Hard Drive...
Also I heard some
On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net
wrote:
I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this
computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this is a new
one...
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB
On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:58 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:
On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net
wrote:
I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this
computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this is a new
one...
On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Jason Brown wrote:
It depends on what you want to do. Simplest is to buy a 500GB PATA
drive.
750 GB PATA drives were available for a while at many retailers.
However, for most practical purposes, 500 GB was the largest capacity
PATA drive which was
On 7/26/2010 1:12 PM, Peter Haas wrote:
750 GB PATA drives were available for a while at many retailers.
What, can someone please say, are the difference(s) between ATA and PATA?
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On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:49 PM, nestamicky wrote:
On 7/26/2010 1:12 PM, Peter Haas wrote:
750 GB PATA drives were available for a while at many retailers.
What, can someone please say, are the difference(s) between ATA and
PATA?
Very overly simplified:
ATA drives in the beginning were all
On 7/26/2010 2:56 PM, Len Gerstel wrote:
Very overly simplified:
ATA drives in the beginning were all Parallel ATA. There were no other
options so the parallel was not stated most of the time. Parallel
means 8 data lines working in unison.
Serial ATA (SATA) drives came on the market and
On Jul 26, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Jason Brown wrote:
On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:58 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:
On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net
wrote:
I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be
good for this computer??? I can't seem to find any better
I've had a 120GB rotating happily in my G4 Gigabit for over four years...
JT
I guess even WD has a fluke every now and then :P
All kidding aside though, I have trashed brand new WD drives that were given to
me. I refuse to use one, I have had too many issues with them. I have seen
close to
On Jul 26, 5:37 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/26/2010 2:56 PM, Len Gerstel wrote:
This then is to say all ATA drives are in fact PATA? It seems to me
adding (S) to the original named ATA should have been good enough to
distinguish SATA from the earlier technology?
Did you
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Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net
wrote:
I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this
computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals
You have a PCI slot in there, and can add a PCI card that handles SATA
(A SATA PCI card) this one -
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/
It will let you add 2 SATA Drives instead of two PATA Drives. I happen
to want some storage and last buy was $80/1.5TB. I bought two.
You have a PCI slot in there, and can add a PCI card that handles SATA
(A SATA PCI card) this one -
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/
It will let you add 2 SATA Drives instead of two PATA Drives. I happen
to want some storage and last buy was $80/1.5TB. I bought two.
You’re welcome, Rich, that’s what the list is for. But you could have
made it a little easier for people if you had posted the model
correctly the first time.
If that Mac is really a Digital Audio, I’m still wondering from where
you got that M5183 spec?
I can’t advise you on optical drives or
The M5183 is the Model# that is on the back of the tower, this is why
someone on here said it was a Sawtooth... I am more up on the iBooks and
Powerbooks this is my first experience with a Power Mac... She used to use this
for her web designing but it got too out dated I guess, but she
Cool Geke, Thanks for that info!!!
I just got AGP PNY nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128 video card and an Airport
Card for $32.00 off ebay, I am looking at a 2005 WD 160 7200rpm IDE 3.5 HD now
for $45.00 total with the shipping! Is this HD too old (I heard the older ones
failed)??? Also a
On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:
Cool Geke, Thanks for that info!!!
I just got AGP PNY nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128 video card and an Airport
Card for $32.00 off ebay, I am looking at a 2005 WD 160 7200rpm IDE 3.5 HD
now for $45.00 total with the shipping! Is this
Hi Rich,
Something's weird: You say the model number is M5183 (Sawtooth), but
the other info you give fits to a Digital Audio. Here's a good page
for specs and lots of links with upgrade tips:
http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/digital-audio-power-mac-g4.html
I think the main thing to improve is the
Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Ok the computer was built around July 2002 it has a 466mhz processor,
896mb (1-128mb/1-256mb/1-512mb), ATI rage 128 pro video card, 30G 5400rpm IBM
Deskstar HD (March 2001), Sony CD-RW CRX140E, IOMEGA ZIP 250... I think for
now all she
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Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Date:Donnerstag 15 Juli 2010N
From:John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com
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466 is kinda slow, if you can get a faster processor cheap I'd sure do
that too. Hard to get a DVD
On Jul 15, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
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Date:Donnerstag 15 Juli 2010N
From:John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
466 is kinda slow, if you can get a faster
On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:44 PM, James Therrault wrote:
On Jul 15, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
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Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Date:Donnerstag 15 Juli 2010N
From:John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com
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On Jul 15, 2010, at 7:11 PM, John Carmonne wrote:
I can play DVDs in the optcal drive on a 500 with nothing running,
need all 500 processor or the stumbling begins. DVD image plays
smoothest.
Something is wrong. The optical drive should be using the hardware DVD
decryption in your Radeon
On Jul 15, 2010, at 5:11 PM, John Carmonne wrote:
On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:44 PM, James Therrault wrote:
On Jul 15, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:
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Date:Donnerstag 15 Juli 2010N
From
On Jul 15, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
On Jul 15, 2010, at 7:11 PM, John Carmonne wrote:
I can play DVDs in the optcal drive on a 500 with nothing running,
need all 500 processor or the stumbling begins. DVD image plays
smoothest.
Something is wrong. The optical drive should
On Jul 15, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Amanda Ward wrote:
snip
I was able to play DVDs on a BW with a G4/450 CPU. Not too bad,
but I had to close almost everything first.
Amanda
Well, if I'm watching a DVD I'll probably not be interested in much
of anything else. I don't have a DVD
On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Richard Gerome wrote:
Yeah I would have to agree with you on that Kris, I play DVD's
on my G3 466 Clamshell without any problems at all and the max
memory in that is only 576...
I just posted something similar but had 320MB ram. Never got around
to
I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she
doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full
capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs
to be dual boot OS9.2.2 too... She can't afford a new one and she is
On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:
I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and
keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this
machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do
her web design work and it needs to be dual
On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:
I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she
doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full
capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs
to be dual
On Jul 14, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:
I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and
keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this
machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she
On Jul 14, 2010, at 9:54 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:
(The 10.5 installer looks at the speed of the CPU, so with an upgrade faster
than 867 MHz, it installs 10.5 out of the box, no helper programs needed.)
What CPU upgrade is availible for these DA's? Will a QuickSilver MOBO fit?
This is
G4's are not really the sweet spot for upgrades they were several years ago,
and the Sawtooth is the very base model of those.
Bruce Johnson
I don't know what hers runs at, but my G4 Dual 1.25 MDD would take on
a couple $20 512K ram sticks and max at 2GB, a $10 USB 2.0 card, and
whatever
I would look for a dual Quicksilver machine.
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