Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-09-17 Thread Richard Gerome
I hooked up this G4 Power Mac M5183 that I've been working on to the HP w2338h Monitor with the original video card that came with the Tower when new, my first boot the resolution was 1440x900 @ 59 Hertz (it was calibrating on boot) then we shut it down and rebooted and it calibrated again,

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-10 Thread Richard Gerome
: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades??? > >I'm having a similar problem. Or I did. I tried to put in a pci >graphics card. Oooops. Looking at the back of the G4 - the >configuration is for AGP graphics. I had a spiffy AGP graphics card w/ >256 MB of Video Ram. But

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-10 Thread Aerendel
I'm having a similar problem. Or I did. I tried to put in a pci graphics card. Oooops. Looking at the back of the G4 - the configuration is for AGP graphics. I had a spiffy AGP graphics card w/ 256 MB of Video Ram. But it wouldn't fit into the AGP graphics slot. now it boots and works, but it only

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-09 Thread Matt Rhinesmith
> Hey Matt, I am in the process I trying to figure this out and you might be > right, the only thing with this link is the card they show is red and mine is > green... I will figure it out, and I will try to flash this on my daughters > old PC Tower if that needs to be done... I do love a chall

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-09 Thread Richard Gerome
though!!! Splitting the 250g HD and getting the computer to read it will be the last thing I do... -Original Message- >From: Matt Rhinesmith >Sent: Sep 8, 2010 10:40 PM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades??? &

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-08 Thread Matt Rhinesmith
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 20:24 -0400, Richard Gerome wrote: > Thanks Bruce, it was the video card swapped in the old one and will download > the OS to the new HD and then download the disc that came with the video card > then put the new one back in and hope it will boot up then... Very cool!!! > T

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-08 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 8, 3:11 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: > > You're going to need to enable LBA48 support so that the full 250GB is   > recognized. Kris, Kudos for the great detailed info. I didn't know anything about the firmware fix or Overdrive. Thanks! Felix -- You received this message because you are a

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-08 Thread Ashgrove
Richard, You got a PC video card, which won't work at all in a Mac. It's that simple. (Maybe it could work, but it would need to be "flashed" beforehand using a PC, so that's out for now.) You need to put back the old video card for the computer to work. Your G4 is a Digital Audio, if I'm not mis

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-08 Thread Kris Tilford
On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: Ok I got everything up and running now but I still can not get the video card to work, the computer won't even boot up... The video card I got for it is a: PNY Tech Inc GeForce FX5200 DDR 128mb I tried running the disc that came with it and

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-08 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 8, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: > The video card I got for it is a: PNY Tech Inc GeForce FX5200 DDR 128mb I > tried running the disc that came with it and there isn't any download for the > Apple only PC's, how do I get this to work??? It has to be flashed for the Mac. her

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Gerome
Ok I got everything up and running now but I still can not get the video card to work, the computer won't even boot up... The video card I got for it is a: PNY Tech Inc GeForce FX5200 DDR 128mb I tried running the disc that came with it and there isn't any download for the Apple only PC's, h

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Gerome
uce Johnson >Sent: Sep 7, 2010 7:58 PM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades??? > > >On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > >> No the only things I changed were the hard drive, DVD/CD super drive,

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-07 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > No the only things I changed were the hard drive, DVD/CD super drive, more > memory, video card and an airport card... Used a 250G 7200rpm PATA hard drive > instead of the PCI card with a SATA drive... The CPU would be a processor > upgrade

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Gerome
rom: Bruce Johnson >Sent: Sep 7, 2010 6:03 PM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades??? > > >On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > >> Hey everyone!!! I got all the new stuff in this computer (a lot e

Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-07 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > Hey everyone!!! I got all the new stuff in this computer (a lot easier then > laptops) and now the computer won't even boot up??? Is this machine the one > that is known for the power button going bad??? I had this running last month > with

Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Gerome
Hey everyone!!! I got all the new stuff in this computer (a lot easier then laptops) and now the computer won't even boot up??? Is this machine the one that is known for the power button going bad??? I had this running last month without any problems... I am borderline of putting all the old

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-05 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! Date:Donnerstag 05 August 2010N From:Peter Kim To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Either way, I would also invest in a back-up drive via firewire. Yes! Always make back-ups! M

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-05 Thread Peter Kim
I would be wary of used hard drives. Maybe you should just get a big external firewire drive, and keep the current drive as the boot drive. Either way, I would also invest in a back-up drive via firewire. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > > > Thanks for that info Andrea

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-05 Thread Clark Martin
On 8/5/10 7:25 AM, Geke wrote: Thanks Clark, for those clear words! and Thanks James, for showing that it’s still a complicated business… But I’m starting to understand it now, also from (previously mentioned on this list, I know...) webpages like this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-05 Thread Geke
Thanks Clark, for those clear words! and Thanks James, for showing that it’s still a complicated business… But I’m starting to understand it now, also from (previously mentioned on this list, I know...) webpages like this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/faq/power-mac-g4-how-

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-04 Thread James Therrault
On Aug 4, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On 8/4/10 11:12 AM, Geke wrote: Hi Rich, I have 3 harddisks in my Digital Audio: 2 are 3,5" and 1 is 2,5" (connected with an adapter). So having several HDs is no problem. But could someone in the know post a clear answer to this question:

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-04 Thread Clark Martin
On 8/4/10 11:12 AM, Geke wrote: Hi Rich, I have 3 harddisks in my Digital Audio: 2 are 3,5" and 1 is 2,5" (connected with an adapter). So having several HDs is no problem. But could someone in the know post a clear answer to this question: Do large HDs work in the Digital Audio, with Tiger and/

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-04 Thread Geke
Hi Rich, I have 3 harddisks in my Digital Audio: 2 are 3,5" and 1 is 2,5" (connected with an adapter). So having several HDs is no problem. But could someone in the know post a clear answer to this question: Do large HDs work in the Digital Audio, with Tiger and/or Leopard? I’m still doubtful whe

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-04 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! Date:Mittwoch 04 August 2010N From:Richard Gerome To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Thanks for that info Andreas!!! I was planning on getting a new one... I > also have a

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-03 Thread Richard Gerome
Thanks for that info Andreas!!! I was planning on getting a new one... I also have another question can I keep the orig hard drive in there too (is there 2 plugs in the ribbon for them I didn't notice if there was)??? This way she can save stuff on that HD too... I don't know of any Prize S

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-03 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! Date:Dienstag 03 August 2010N From:Richard Gerome To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Ok I found this hard drive on ebay for $75 with the shipping: 7200rpm > 250GB Maxtor HARD

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-03 Thread admin
Also take a look on eBay at White Label Hard Drives. There are some ATA/APATA still available. Usually, one year warranty but what I like is that this are previously unused, clean, etc. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-03 Thread JoeTaxpayer
The last PATAs I bought were $80 for 500GB. You can create 4 partitions of 125GB. search eBay for [500gb pata] no brackets, and see what's there. For maybe $5 more you'll have twice the space. On Aug 3, 2:41 pm, Richard Gerome wrote: >    Ok I found this hard drive on ebay for $75 with the shippi

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-08-03 Thread Richard Gerome
post that info when I get it... Thanks again everyone!!! -Original Message- >From: Richard Gerome >Sent: Jul 28, 2010 12:27 AM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! > > > Once again for anyone who doesn'

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-31 Thread Geke
Rich, Sorry for causing confusion about that "M5183"--this turns out to be the model number on most all of the G4 PowerMacs... (I had been confusing it with the "Order Number" all the time; a post in another thread "G4 identity" brought the light today.) So, it’s definitely a Digital Audio with a

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-30 Thread Ashgrove
Rich, If the processor is compatible with your motherboard, then by all means, it's a pretty easy swap. Felix On Jul 30, 11:25 am, Richard Gerome wrote: >    Can you swap out just the processor without changing the mother board??? > Maybe after I get this up and running we'll see how much fast

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-30 Thread Richard Gerome
Can you swap out just the processor without changing the mother board??? Maybe after I get this up and running we'll see how much faster it is and go from there, if it is still too slow for her I will change out the processor then??? - >Hi Rich, > >>This is a 466mhz and the Model# M5

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-30 Thread Geke
Hi Rich, >This is a 466mhz and the Model# M5183 how this got like this is beyond me, > (I figured it to be a 400, 450 or 500) it comes up when I click on "About > This Mac" 466mhz and 896mb Maybe a processor swap then? Still weird, because only the Digital Audio and newer have 3 RAM slots l

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-29 Thread Richard Gerome
Hey Geke, This is a 466mhz and the Model# M5183 how this got like this is beyond me, (I figured it to be a 400, 450 or 500) it comes up when I click on "About This Mac" 466mhz and 896mb and right now running Jaguar 10.2.8 (I put Jaguar in it a few yrs ago) she only had OS 9.2.1... I have a

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-29 Thread Geke
Hi Rich, Sorry to harp on this again, but I’m sure you want to use your friend’s money as efficiently as possible, and if 120GB is enough for her right now, then why spend more. From the other posts I’m still not clear if a bigger-than-128GB HD will work at all, even when partitioned. The two main

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-29 Thread dc
Ends today. Newegg has the Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive for $56 - $16 off with coupon code EMCYVNP29 [Exp 7/29] = $40 with free shipping. Western Digital covers this product with a 3-year warranty. On Jul 28, 12:27 am, Richard Gerome wro

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-28 Thread Peter Haas
On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Peter Haas wrote: Below that "line", you may include as many partitions as you wish. All may be bootable Above that "line", you may also include as many partitions as you wish. None may be bootable. On a QS 2002, or all later, every partition may be bootable.

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-28 Thread Peter Haas
On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:14 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I believe the 500GB drive can be partitioned to look like 4 125GB drives if the 128GB limit is an issue. If on a pre-QS 2002 model up to and including a QS 2001, you are stuck with the 128 GB "line". All partitions below the 131,072 MB "line

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-28 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I loaded the OS to the SATA drive and ran benchmarking tests. The improvements were minimal. In practice, pure HD moves were much faster, SATA to SATA file moves, but things like video encode, as others taught me, the bottleneck is not the HD, but the bus and/or processor. So, I'm not trying to sel

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-28 Thread Richard Gerome
er >Sent: Jul 28, 2010 9:43 AM >To: G-Group >Subject: Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! > >Rich seemed to say the TB wasn't so appealing. >Does this G4 have 128GB limit? I have MDD G4, no such limit. It's >packed with 500GB PATA drives and the SATA 1.5

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-28 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Rich seemed to say the TB wasn't so appealing. Does this G4 have 128GB limit? I have MDD G4, no such limit. It's packed with 500GB PATA drives and the SATA 1.5TB. I agree the SATA card $50 + 1.5TB drive $80 is a great deal, and leaves another SATA connector. But he seemed to not be going after that

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-28 Thread Ashgrove
Rich, Maxing out the memory is a good idea. I mean, 896Mb is good, but 2 gigs is great. So you are on the right track there. SATA hard drives are bigger, cheaper and faster. Which means, if she gets a SATA PCI card (which are about $50), she can both break the 128GB barrier and add a 1 TB hard dr

Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-27 Thread JoeTaxpayer
It sounds like she's not shooting for TB storage. Just get a 250GB or 500GB PATA, and call it quits. Drive d\prices keep falling. If she needs more in a year, the SATA card is still a choice. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and

Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-27 Thread Richard Gerome
Once again for anyone who doesn't know the computer is G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor... On the back it has 1-AGP slot, 4-PCI slots, 2-USB's 2-FireWire 400's, 3 slots for memory (and I already know the max is 1.5g (3-512's) ram... The computer was built

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-27 Thread nestamicky
On 7/26/2010 4:55 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Did you know that until WWII there was no WWI? It was simply the great war. No, I did not know this. Thanks for telling me though. I suppose it would have been suspicious to name the first war WW1, as it would suggest someone somewhere was planning

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-27 Thread Ross
Richard Gerome wrote: > Ok I got some pretty good input here and I think I will scratch the WD > because of all those some had that went bad... A few questions: What reason > would it be for using a SATA drive with the SATA PCI card??? The other > question: What is the best HD to use for the mon

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-27 Thread Geke
Dear Rich, The HD is important, but not the bottleneck for this computer and the work your friend wants to do on it. Get a nice and cheap 120GB or 160GB ATA/IDE drive and let her try how things go. If it’s too slow, it won’t be because of the HD, but because of the processor. So before investing

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Sri Gupta
On Jul 26, 10:26 pm, Clark Martin wrote: > It's fairly common in the computer biz that new names crop up for > existing technology to differentiate it from newer technology.  There > was no FPM RAM until ECO RAM came along, prior to that it was just DIMMs. > FPM RAM (Fast Page Mode) was named to

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Clark Martin
On 7/26/10 2:37 PM, nestamicky wrote: On 7/26/2010 2:56 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Very overly simplified: ATA drives in the beginning were all Parallel ATA. There were no other options so the parallel was not stated most of the time. Parallel means 8 data lines working in unison. Serial ATA (SATA

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
You have a PCI slot in there, and can add a PCI card that handles SATA ("A SATA PCI card") this one - http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/ It will let you add 2 SATA Drives instead of two PATA Drives. I happen to want some storage and last buy was $80/1.5TB. I bought two.

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
You have a PCI slot in there, and can add a PCI card that handles SATA ("A SATA PCI card") this one - http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/ It will let you add 2 SATA Drives instead of two PATA Drives. I happen to want some storage and last buy was $80/1.5TB. I bought two.

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On Jul 26, 9:24 pm, Richard Gerome wrote: >  I am still sort of confused here between SATA and PATA and the SATA PCI card > does this card go with the SATA HD even after everyones input??? Or does this > have something to do with adding more HD's??? I don't think she will ever > have a reason

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Gerome
: JoeTaxpayer >Sent: Jul 26, 2010 6:55 PM >To: G-Group >Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! > > > >On Jul 26, 5:37 pm, nestamicky wrote: >> On 7/26/2010 2:56 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > >> This then is to say all ATA drives are in fact PATA? It seems to me &g

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Jason Brown
On 7/26/2010 7:57 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: Will the SATA work with the 500g SATA HD??? 1.5tb is way too big and the price is higher... I will buy the card if it's a better set up then the PATA drive... She wants to do web design with this machine... I have found SATA to be worlds faster t

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Gerome
8 PM >To: G-Group >Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! > >On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome >wrote: >>    I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this >> computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On Jul 26, 5:37 pm, nestamicky wrote: > On 7/26/2010 2:56 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > This then is to say all ATA drives are in fact PATA? It seems to me > adding (S) to the original named ATA should have been good enough to > distinguish SATA from the earlier technology? Did you know that until

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Jason Brown
> I've had a 120GB rotating happily in my G4 Gigabit for over four years... > > JT I guess even WD has a fluke every now and then :P All kidding aside though, I have trashed brand new WD drives that were given to me. I refuse to use one, I have had too many issues with them. I have seen close

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread James Therrault
On Jul 26, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Jason Brown wrote: On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:58 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome wrote: I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this is a

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread nestamicky
On 7/26/2010 2:56 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Very overly simplified: ATA drives in the beginning were all Parallel ATA. There were no other options so the parallel was not stated most of the time. Parallel means 8 data lines working in unison. Serial ATA (SATA) drives came on the market and ther

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jul 26, 2010, at 4:49 PM, nestamicky wrote: On 7/26/2010 1:12 PM, Peter Haas wrote: 750 GB PATA drives were available for a while at many retailers. What, can someone please say, are the difference(s) between ATA and PATA? Very overly simplified: ATA drives in the beginning were all P

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Jason Brown
On Jul 26, 2010, at 3:49 PM, nestamicky wrote: > On 7/26/2010 1:12 PM, Peter Haas wrote: >> 750 GB PATA drives were available for a while at many retailers. > What, can someone please say, are the difference(s) between ATA and PATA? > > Standard ATA drives were renamed to PATA when SATA was r

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Herbert
On Jul 26, 2010, at 3:49 PM, nestamicky wrote: >> > What, can someone please say, are the difference(s) between ATA and PATA? ATA stands for "Advanced Technology Attachment". For a very long time there was only parallel ATA or the familiar ribbon cables used on CDROM drives and hard disks. N

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread nestamicky
On 7/26/2010 1:12 PM, Peter Haas wrote: 750 GB PATA drives were available for a while at many retailers. What, can someone please say, are the difference(s) between ATA and PATA? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Ma

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Peter Haas
On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Jason Brown wrote: It depends on what you want to do. Simplest is to buy a 500GB PATA drive. 750 GB PATA drives were available for a while at many retailers. However, for most practical purposes, 500 GB was the largest capacity PATA drive which was consistentl

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Jason Brown
On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:58 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: > On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome > wrote: >>I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this >> computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this is a new >> one... >> Western Digital Caviar

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On Jul 26, 12:39 pm, Richard Gerome wrote: >    I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this > computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this is a new > one... >      Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA > 3.0Gb/s

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Gerome
I found this on newegg for $55.00 do you think it would be good for this computer??? I can't seem to find any better deals on ebay and this is a new one... Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive... Also I heard some me

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-21 Thread Richard Gerome
The M5183 is the Model# that is on the back of the tower, this is why someone on here said it was a Sawtooth... I am more up on the iBooks and Powerbooks this is my first experience with a Power Mac... She used to use this for her web designing but it got too out dated I guess, but she still

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-21 Thread Geke
You’re welcome, Rich, that’s what the list is for. But you could have made it a little easier for people if you had posted the model correctly the first time. If that Mac is really a Digital Audio, I’m still wondering from where you got that M5183 spec? I can’t advise you on optical drives or vide

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-20 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: > > Cool Geke, Thanks for that info!!! > I just got "AGP PNY nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128 video card and an Airport > Card for $32.00 off ebay, I am looking at a 2005 WD 160 7200rpm IDE 3.5" HD > now for $45.00 total with the shipping! Is

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-20 Thread Richard Gerome
Cool Geke, Thanks for that info!!! I just got "AGP PNY nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128 video card and an Airport Card for $32.00 off ebay, I am looking at a 2005 WD 160 7200rpm IDE 3.5" HD now for $45.00 total with the shipping! Is this HD too old (I heard the older ones failed)??? Also a P

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-16 Thread Geke
Hi Rich, Something's weird: You say the model number is M5183 (Sawtooth), but the other info you give fits to a Digital Audio. Here's a good page for specs and lots of links with upgrade tips: http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/digital-audio-power-mac-g4.html I think the main thing to improve is the HD.

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: Yeah I would have to agree with you on that Kris, I play DVD's on my G3 466 Clamshell without any problems at all and the max memory in that is only 576... I just posted something similar but had 320MB ram. Never got around to m

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jul 15, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: snip I was able to play DVDs on a B&W with a G4/450 CPU. Not too bad, but I had to close almost everything first. Amanda Well, if I'm watching a DVD I'll probably not be interested in much of anything else. I don't have a DVD

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jul 15, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 15, 2010, at 7:11 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I can play DVDs in the optcal drive on a 500 with nothing running, need all 500 processor or the stumbling begins. DVD image plays smoothest. Something is wrong. The optical drive should be

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread Richard Gerome
ect: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! > >On Jul 15, 2010, at 7:11 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > >> I can play DVDs in the optcal drive on a 500 with nothing running, >> need all 500 processor or the stumbling begins. DVD image plays >> smoothest. > >Something is wro

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread Amanda Ward
On Jul 15, 2010, at 5:11 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:44 PM, James Therrault wrote: > >> >> On Jul 15, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: >> >>> -- Original message ------ >>> Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 15, 2010, at 7:11 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I can play DVDs in the optcal drive on a 500 with nothing running, need all 500 processor or the stumbling begins. DVD image plays smoothest. Something is wrong. The optical drive should be using the hardware DVD decryption in your Radeon

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:44 PM, James Therrault wrote: > > On Jul 15, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: > >> -- Original message -- >> Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! >> Date:Donnerstag 15 Juli 2010N >> From:Joh

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jul 15, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! Date:Donnerstag 15 Juli 2010N From:John Carmonne To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 466 is kinda slow, if you can get a faster processor cheap

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! Date:Donnerstag 15 Juli 2010N From:John Carmonne To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > 466 is kinda slow, if you can get a faster processor cheap I'd sure do > that too. Hard to get a DVD

RE: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread Stewie de Young
> Subject: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! > > >Ok the computer was built around July 2002 it has a 466mhz processor, > 896mb (1-128mb/1-256mb/1-512mb), ATI rage 128 pro video card, 30G 5400rpm IBM > Deskstar HD (March 2001), Sony CD-RW CRX140E, IOMEGA ZIP 250...

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread william Bowles
Hi There I have a similar set up to that for use in my room as a music and video mac. It is a 533 digital audio i have put a dl-dvdrw in it and fitted 1.5gb ram as it only has 3 slots, the hdd is a hitatchi 80gb 5400 rpm and i have a 64mb graphics card with dvi and analog out-put connec

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: > > Ok the computer was built around July 2002 it has a 466mhz processor, 896mb > (1-128mb/1-256mb/1-512mb), ATI rage 128 pro video card, 30G 5400rpm IBM > Deskstar HD (March 2001), Sony CD-RW CRX140E, IOMEGA ZIP 250... I think for > now a

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-15 Thread Richard Gerome
hine!!! -Original Message- >From: Richard Gerome >Sent: Jul 14, 2010 11:20 AM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! > > > I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she > doesn't have the monitor, she

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-14 Thread onelucent
I would look for a dual Quicksilver machine. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at h

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-14 Thread JoeTaxpayer
> G4's are not really the sweet spot for upgrades they were several years ago, > and the Sawtooth is the very base model of those. > Bruce Johnson I don't know what hers runs at, but my G4 Dual 1.25 MDD would take on a couple $20 512K ram sticks and max at 2GB, a $10 USB 2.0 card, and whatever P

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-14 Thread john CARMONNE
On Jul 14, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 14, 2010, at 9:54 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: (The 10.5 installer looks at the speed of the CPU, so with an upgrade faster than 867 MHz, it installs 10.5 out of the box, no helper programs needed.) What CPU upgrade is available fo

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jul 14, 2010, at 9:54 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: >> >> (The 10.5 installer looks at the speed of the CPU, so with an upgrade faster >> than 867 MHz, it installs 10.5 out of the box, no helper programs needed.) > > What CPU upgrade is availible for these DA's? Will a QuickSilver MOBO fit? Thi

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-14 Thread john CARMONNE
On Jul 14, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she ca

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: > > I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she > doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full > capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs > to be du

Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-14 Thread john CARMONNE
On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs to be dual b

G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!

2010-07-14 Thread Richard Gerome
I have a friend who has this G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor, she wants to upgrade this machine to it's full capacity and run Tiger 10.4.11 so she can do her web design work and it needs to be dual boot OS9.2.2 too... She can't afford a new one and she is f