Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread jlimb
I'm not sure where all this hate for Mullen comes from. Yes, he relied too much on Tebow and Harvin, but most of the time it worked. He also came up with some brilliant play calls: the jump pass, the Tebow rocker step, the play right before the half against OSU where Tebow took a step towards

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Steve McKibben
Just to follow up on what I posted yesterday (about the questions concerning whether or not Meyer had the desire/health to address the issues the team is having this year): I can't copy and paste the post I read on GC's premium board, since it is for-pay content, but the guy with a great track

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Shane Ford
Thanks, Steve for summing up what you read for those of us that can't afford a pay site right now. It makes me feel much better to hear these points. I hope Meyer is pissed and ready to make some wholesale changes. If I were Foley and he didn't, then it would be time for me to sit down with

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-19 Thread John Vega
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Shane Ford wrote: AUBURN, Ala. — Cam Newton welcomes all those comparisons to Tim Tebow. I'll take that any day, Auburn's do-it-all quarterback said. Just don't bother bringing up the award Tebow won as a sophomore. The Heisman Trophy? Newton said. You can throw

Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Scott Lucas
I don't agree.  We have great players now and are not winning because we are not running an offense or plays that suit their strengths. Say what you want about Dan Mullen, but the guy knew what he had, he developed a gameplan that would work with what he had, and he won the game.  You can't

[gatortalk] Big Mo

2010-10-19 Thread jfranl
Being a big fan of momentum and mental psyche, I think that if Deonte Thompson had caught the first TD pass in the first game instead of dropping it and Pouncey had centered the ball correctly and a couple of other, somewhat small things had clicked, we would be undefeated and rolling (to some

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread John Vega
On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:14 AM, Steve McKibben wrote: Meyer has some coaches on staff that he's not happy with (and sorry - Addazio isn't one of them, although this guy says it's likely that he won't be the OC next year - probably OL/Asst. head Coach) and that he feels he was pressured into

Re: [gatortalk] Big Mo

2010-10-19 Thread John Vega
On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:49 AM, jfranl wrote: Perhaps, it is a blessing in disguise since the obvious problems have come all at once rather than one at a time (I always like to look at the positive side J ) We still control our destiny. Despite all that can happen, we could still win

Re: [gatortalk] Big Mo

2010-10-19 Thread Helen Huntley
Yes, let's! I think the gloom is about people having given up on the possibility of beating UGA and FSU. Maybe we'll save the season yet! On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM, John Vega zebu...@gate.net wrote: On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:49 AM, jfranl wrote: * Perhaps, it is a blessing in disguise

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-19 Thread Jay Cicone
That's ironic? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:47 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Steve McKibben
From what I gather Loeffler is respected for his knowledge and ability, and he was the one that has designed the Brantley half of our offensive identity. Through no fault of his, and to some extent, Brantley's, this has been the less effective side of our offense. I remember someone commenting

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-19 Thread Shane Ford
Nope!  I laughed my (you know what off) while I was posting that this morning.  I wondered who would catch it first and how long it would take.  :-) From: John Vega zebu...@gate.net To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 9:46:49 AM Subject:

RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Jay Cicone
I believe Burton will replace Brantley at QB until the offensive line learns to pass block. It will make listening to the radio broadcast a bit awkward, but it already is a bit slanted with the family connection. I get tired of hearing quotes like Johnny did his best to get that ball there and the

[gatortalk] Basketball season tickets mailed

2010-10-19 Thread Arthur Polhill
I just talked to the Gator Ticket Office. Basketball season tickets are being mailed today from a specialty printer in Arkansas. The first game (exhibition) is 10/28, 7pm in the O'Dome against Fla. Tech.  A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I

RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
I had the thought that Brantley might transfer after this year if things don't improve. He is in his 4th year, so should be on track to graduate. He would then be able to transfer to a D1 school that offers a masters program that UF does not and play next year. I am not advocating this, but if

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Shane Ford
Are you using your canoe for shelter?  :-) From: Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 11:07:05 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen I believe Burton will replace Brantley at QB until

RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Jay Cicone
I don't have a canoe. I guess you could bash my scull in. ;-) From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:21 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen Are you using

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Shane Ford
I think it's a shame that we can't tailor our offense to play to the strengths of a passing QB.  Oh, wait!  We did that in 2005-2006, didn't we?  Why are we unable to do it now?  Why can't we dust off the playbooks from 2006 and run that offense?  Ken, I have to agree with you on your

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Steve McKibben
Most of the linemen on that 2006 team had experience in a pro set type of offense, so it was probably more natural to that group than the zone blocking schemes that were just being introduced - just the opposite of our current group. I think the fact that Brantley was so good coming out of

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-19 Thread Steve McKibben
If ESPN Gameday comes to UF for the Auburn game next year I think I know what will be on my sign... AUBURN, Ala. — Cam Newton welcomes all those comparisons to Tim Tebow.I'll take that any day, Auburn's do-it-all quarterback said.Just don't bother bringing up the award Tebow won as a

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Shane Ford
I'm sure all parties are very sorry now! I've read that Driskel has an excellent arm but also is a very good runner. I suppose the bright side in all of this is the recruiting of him has probably gotten easier. I'm sure he sees that he can get almost immediate playing time if he signs on.

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Scott Lucas
In an earlier post I touched on the issues that this O-Line has with the zone/read blocking which they have to do.  I have an opposite opinion.  In the first half, in which we zone block for this spread nightmare, we are not doing well at all.  However, when we let them pass protect and run

RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
I'm not sure I buy the whole zone blocking thing anyway. Even in a pro-set offense the line does zone blocking and you have pulling guards, etc. I think the problem is too many missed assignments, rarely having a back in to block and when we do, he misses. In 2006 our most valuable player was

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Scott Lucas
Most of the linemen on that 2006 team had experience in a pro set type of offense, so it was probably more natural to that group than the zone blocking schemes that were just being introduced - just the opposite of our current group. This is the most confounding part for me.  They SHOULD be

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Steve McKibben
That's your opinion. I happen to think that there is merit to the other side of that argument. I think they are better at pass blocking in the Brantley/man scheme than they are at run blocking in that setup, but I still see a lot of confusion. Look at the times Brantley has been pressured

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Scott Lucas
I think I said that same thing, but may have been in another post... Everyone is not on the same page, everyone is not making the reads correctly. Letting brantley drop back and throw makes it easier to do what he does best. I think that much is obvious, but I do agree that they will struggle

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread sandra alonso
You may have said it before -- I got back on GT (after a short hiatus) just before the LSU game...! On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Scott Lucas floridagat...@yahoo.comwrote: I think I said that same thing, but may have been in another post... Everyone is not on the same page, everyone is not

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread oliver
I'm glad we have an off week. I think Meyer can take control back and turn things back around. It will be just in time. We lose to Ga and I'm going to be pissed! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve McKibben augiega...@yahoo.com Sender:

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread sandra alonso
What I see more than anything is Xavier Nixon getting manhandled by the opposing team's defensive linemen. There were times during the Alabama game that you could see him actually being pushed two or three yards back from the line of scrimmage (and I mean that to say that the DL was just giving

[gatortalk] Revisionist History re: Cam Newton

2010-10-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
During the Auburn Arkansas game on Saturday they made a statement regarding Cam's transfer, basically saying he decided to transfer after Tebow announced he was coming back for his senior year. That didn't sound right to me, primarily because it isn't true. Cam was arrested 11/21/08 for

Re: [gatortalk] Revisionist History re: Cam Newton

2010-10-19 Thread oliver
That's exactly right! Cam could have worked his way back on the team. He was off just like Chris Rainey was off. Which leads us to the conclusion... Never throw a Heisman out the window! :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ken Kirkley

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Arthur Polhill
All of us are hoping for a turnaround and a victory, especially over the Dawgs. I never thought Meyer was disengaged, but am sure that he is dissatisfied and will work on fixing the team problems.  A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-19 Thread Arthur Polhill
Thanks for pointing it out.  It seems to be a pattern of behavior for him.  A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: John Vega zebu...@gate.net To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Arthur Polhill
I've noticed that Uncle has been a bit protective of Johnny with his comments...and he should be.  A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.com

Re: [gatortalk] Revisionist History re: Cam Newton

2010-10-19 Thread Shane Ford
Ken, Thanks for putting all the facts in one place.  For some of us, time has erased some of these facts from my memory.  The more you hear or read some thing, the more it sticks in your brain.  I was beginning to believe the lie and wondering why Meyer didn't give him another chance.  Thanks

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-19 Thread Cecilia
HAHAHAHAHA Cee - Original Message - From: John Vega To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:46 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford On Oct 19, 2010, at

RE: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread Charlie
I guess we'll know soon. I don't put a lot of stock in the premium content over there. Too many of those insiders told us how silly we were to question Zook are still insiders JMO Charlie _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-19 Thread wildeart...@gmail.com
I don't understand why that's odd. We always line up in the shotgun when we have the ball on the 1. That's part of how we've been so efficient at turning a 1st and goal at the 1 into a 3rd and goal at the 15. :-) Rob For his second TD, Newton lined up in the shotgun on third-and-goal from

Re: [gatortalk] I DON'T miss Dan Mullen

2010-10-19 Thread wildeart...@gmail.com
I don't hate Mullen. I wish him all the best and hope he has a long and successful career. I simply object to the media characterization that Gator fans wish they had Mullen back again. Some may, but I don't. Sure he called some good plays -- Adazzio calls some good plays too -- but that

Re: [gatortalk] Big Mo

2010-10-19 Thread wildeart...@gmail.com
Yeah, I'm up for that. Maybe if Meyer shakes things up enough in the off week, we can come back looking more like we did against UK and less like we did against MSU. One good thing about where we are now is that I have no real expectations, so every win will be a good one. :-) Rob Sent from

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews From The Gainesville SUN For 10/19, 8:00AM Edition Courtesy of Shane Ford

2010-10-19 Thread John Vega
We have a joke among our circle of football watchers. Whenever it is 1st, 2nd or 3rd and a yard for a 1st down or a TD, my friends all ask me what play to call. Each time, I yell QB sneak. Under center is implied. Even if it is a half of a yard, there will always be 4th down. It is dull, even