[VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Owen O'Malley
Here's an updated release candidate for 0.20.203.0. I've incorporated the feedback and included all of the patches from 0.20.2, which is the last stable release. I also fixed the eclipse-plugin problem. The candidate is at: http://people.apache.org/~omalley/hadoop-0.20.203.0-rc1/ Please

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Owen O'Malley omal...@apache.org wrote: Here's an updated release candidate for 0.20.203.0. I've incorporated the feedback and included all of the patches from 0.20.2, which is the last stable release. I also fixed the eclipse-plugin problem. The candidate

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Allen Wittenauer
On May 4, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote: Here's an updated release candidate for 0.20.203.0. I've incorporated the feedback and included all of the patches from 0.20.2, which is the last stable release. I also fixed the eclipse-plugin problem. The candidate is at:

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Owen O'Malley omal...@apache.org wrote: Here's an updated release candidate for 0.20.203.0. I've incorporated the feedback and included all of the patches from 0.20.2, which is the last stable release. I also fixed the eclipse-plugin problem. The candidate

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Doug Cutting
-1 This candidate has lots of patches that are not in trunk, potentially adding regressions to 0.22 and 0.23. This should be addressed before we release from 0.20-security. We should also not move to four-component version numbering. A release from the 0.20-security branch should perhaps be

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Todd Lipcon
-1 for the same reasons I outlined in my email yesterday. This is not a community artifact following the community's processes, and thus should not be an official release until those issues are addressed. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: -1 This candidate

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eli Collins
With my Cloudera hat on.. When we went through the 10x and 20x patches we only pulled a subset of them, primarily for security and the general improvements that we thought were good. We found both incompatible changes and some sketchy changes that we did not pull in from a quality perspective.

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Jakob Homan
@Eli This rc contains many patches not yet committed to trunk. If you've compiled this list, can you post it? On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Eli Collins e...@cloudera.com wrote: With my Cloudera hat on.. When we went through the 10x and 20x patches we only pulled a subset of them, primarily

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Todd Lipcon
With Cloudera hat on, I agree with Eli's assessment. With Apache hat on, I don't see how this is at all relevant to the task at hand. I would make the same arguments against taking CDH3 and releasing it as an ASF artifact -- we'd also have a certain amount of work to do to make sure that all of

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com wrote: @Eli This rc contains many patches not yet committed to trunk. If you've compiled this list, can you post it? Here's the list Todd posted yesterday:

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eli Collins
Your -1 vote essentially blocks the changes that are already available in CDH to be available from Apache open source! As Eric mentioned, this thread is about an Apache release, not CDH. My -1 vote does not block these changes from being released via Apache. You can not veto a release.

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze
The list seems highly inaccurate. Checked the first few N/A items. All are false positives. HADOOP-6304 N/A -- fixed in trunk via HADOOP-7110 (Todd, it was fixed by you. Forgot?) HADOOP-6598 N/A -- moved to HADOOP-6763 and committed to trunk HADOOP-6653 N/A -- not applicable in trunk

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Owen O'Malley
On May 4, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Allen Wittenauer wrote: Am I misreading this, or are the MR protocols out of sync between 0.20.203 and 0.21? It would also appear that this is marked stable in 0.21. What is the user impact? The names of the protocols were changed, but the names of the

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Mahadev Konar
+1 for the release. I downloaded the release, verified checksums, built and deployed. Ran randomwriter jobs on it. Everything passes. -- thanks mahadev @mahadevkonar On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Arun C Murthy a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 15:06, Suresh Srinivas sures...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Eli, How many of these patches that you find troublesome are in CDH already? How is that relevant to the release vote and discrepancies listed in Eli's email? Regards, Suresh On 5/4/11 3:03 PM, Eli Collins

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Todd Lipcon
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Arun C Murthy a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze wrote: The list seems highly inaccurate. Checked the first few N/A items. All are false positives. Also, can you please provide a list on features which are not

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc0

2011-05-04 Thread Doug Cutting
On 05/03/2011 06:01 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: On May 3, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: On 05/02/2011 02:33 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: Are you simply asking for someone to go through the 450 odd jiras and set 'fix-for' fields? Every other release we've made is

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Arun C Murthy
On May 4, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Todd Lipcon wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Arun C Murthy a...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze wrote: The list seems highly inaccurate. Checked the first few N/A items. All are false positives. Also, can you

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eli Collins
Good suggestion, it would be helpful to hash out the issues around compatibility, feature branches, version numbers, how to contribute at Apache before putting up new votes that would be helpful, ie the vote would go much smoother if all the issues with the previous vote were addressed before

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Mahadev Konar
Eli, I think the intent from the email was to just vote on this thread, which I agree with. Discussions should be done in a separate threads. Hopefully we can all stick to just voting! thanks mahadev On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Eli Collins e...@cloudera.com wrote: Good suggestion, it

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
I tend to agree. Changing release model of Apache Hadoop train isn't something that should be done in a hassle or as a part of release voting. If these questions aren't addressed - let's postpone the vote and discuss all the complications or implications until they sorted out or the

[DISCUSSION] Release rules

2011-05-04 Thread Tom White
One year ago (to the day!) Chris started a discussion about the release manager role (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-general/201005.mbox/%3ch2q1267dd3b1005041331r7d8f696di370a279ff6058...@mail.gmail.com%3E). In light of today's disagreements, I think we should restart this

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Douglas
I'm +1 on releasing rc1. The signature and hashes match on the artifact, ran some of the more aggressive MR tests. Reviewed changes from rc0. It looks like we need a FAQ for this release, if only to prevent the same questions from being asked and answered across different threads and lists.

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eric Baldeschwieler
Ok. I'll bite. The point of a vote is to learn what everyone thinks. So far we have learned: 1 - the team that is trying to contribute code and do a release thinks it is ready. 2 - Cloudera does not think the release is a good idea. No more talk between the Team contributing code and

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Eric Baldeschwieler eri...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Ok. I'll bite. The point of a vote is to learn what everyone thinks. So far we have learned: 1 - the team that is trying to contribute code and do a release thinks it is ready. 2 - Cloudera does not think the

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Jean-Daniel Cryans
Non-biding -1. I did download it and checked it out, but when I look at the documentation I see it says Hadoop 0.20 documentation in the tab on top. From what I can tell this isn't the branch 0.20 so I think it's an error and from a user point of view this looks more like something I would call

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Milind Bhandarkar
My (non-binding) vote for 0.20.203.0-rc1 is +1. I downloaded, compiled, ran tests, ran my bigrams example, all ran perfectly. (I did a single node test without security on.) The voting criteria I used are: 1. Is this a working release? : Yes 2. Does it take the codebase forward? : Yes 3. Does

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Andrew Purtell
Speculation either on the motives of those objecting to a release or of those making contributions or proposing a release does not advance progress. The accusations and counter-accusations seen on this thread are regrettable and I feel less and less confident in the future of Apache Hadoop as

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Dhruba Borthakur
+1. I downloaded the bits, compiled and ran unit tests. Also, looked at the source code to some extent. Looks good. -dhruba On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Eli Collins wrote: The point is that these discussion should be

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On May 4, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Jean-Daniel Cryans wrote: Non-biding -1. I did download it and checked it out, but when I look at the documentation I see it says Hadoop 0.20 documentation in the tab on top. From what I can tell this isn't the branch 0.20 so I think it's an error and from a

[DISCUSSION] development process of Hadoop

2011-05-04 Thread Eric Yang
If we reflect back and see how the development community end up in its current state for Hadoop. There are development rapidly happening and tested in all kind of organizations. However, Hadoop committers are only committing code that are interested by the sponsored companies. People are

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Holsman
just as a Tally we have 6+1's (andy.. is yours binding?? if so 7) and 3 -1's. so according to the votes so far we are releasing.. but according to our bylaws.. we need to wait 7 days for everyone to chime in. --I On May 5, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: On May 4, 2011, at 6:24 PM,

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Jeff Hammerbacher
-1. As Roy says, whatever gets released will define the new norm by which policies are assumed, and I certainly don't want this project to change its norms to accommodate bad practices. In particular, Eli presented three very reasonable technical objections to this release. To summarize: 1)

Re: [VOTE] Release candidate 0.20.203.0-rc1

2011-05-04 Thread Eric Sammer
(non-binding) -1 for similar reasons to what Jeff and others have laid out, and certainly if we're going to change the development process as a side effect of a release vote. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Jeff Hammerbacher ham...@cloudera.comwrote: -1. As Roy says, whatever gets released