Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Hi...   The idea sounds good in general more specifically that should be clear and documented on the incubator site for future

Re: Change in Due Dates for Board reports

2011-11-17 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Sam... On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Mohammad Nour

Re: incubator is a single group

2011-11-17 Thread David Crossley
sebb wrote: David Crossley wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It is the case that Initial Committers are eligible to serve on the PPMC, though not all choose to do so. Also, it is apparently a recommendation that invited committers be invited to the PPMC, but it doesn't seem to be a

[VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Marcel Offermans
In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers (12 in total now) from diverse organizations and did a release in May this year to demonstrate we follow the

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 Regards JB On 11/17/2011 11:42 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers (12 in total now) from diverse organizations

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Great news, succes with this! +1 2011/11/17 Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net +1 Regards JB On 11/17/2011 11:42 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. Since joining the

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-17 Thread Nick Burch
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Sam Ruby wrote: Meanwhile, I will personally focus on JSPWiki. If others wish to join me, here is a a current list of projects that have been incubating more than a year: I've been meaning to try to help out with JSPWiki for a while, but I've not yet had the time. If

Re: Suitable Names Search [WAS Re: Trademark Kill Searches...]

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: snip Unless

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread sebb
On 17 November 2011 10:42, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote: In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers (12 in total now) from

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
I'm not sure what this has to do with the graduation vote. The release as such has been accepted by the incubator pmc and there only need to be one release. The source for each artifact is there, it is just per artifact in the -source.jar. There might be different set-up then a lot of other

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Guillaume Nodet
As much as I don't like this layout, this is not the first projet to use it, and I don't really see how / why the IPMC should decide the svn layout for the project. You won't be the one to manage it daily afaik, so that's not up to you to decide imho. Sling and Felix already use such a layout

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread sebb
On 17 November 2011 12:29, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what this has to do with the graduation vote. The release as such has been accepted by the incubator pmc and there only need to be one release. The source for each artifact is there, it is just per artifact in the

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread sebb
On 17 November 2011 12:51, Guillaume Nodet gno...@gmail.com wrote: As much as I don't like this layout, this is not the first projet to use it, and I don't really see how / why the IPMC should decide the svn layout for the project.   You won't be the one to manage it daily afaik, so that's not

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
Again, we had this discussion before namely, when the actual release vote happened. I'm still confused why we have to go through this again. You should be able to build all of the components by using the -source.jar's that are provided. They contain what is necessary i.e., the full source.

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Benson Margulies
+1 (binding) On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: Again, we had this discussion before namely, when the actual release vote happened. I'm still confused why we have to go through this again. You should be able to build all of the components by using the

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:34 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2011 12:51, Guillaume Nodet gno...@gmail.com wrote: As much as I don't like this layout, this is not the first projet to use it, and I don't really see how / why the IPMC should decide the svn layout for the project.  

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread ant elder
To try that I just went to the ACE downloads page which has a bunch of jars and source jars to download, i downloaded the source of the first one, org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-sources.jar, and looking inside there is the source to some Java classes but no build scripts or

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
$ mkdir org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator $ cd org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator/ $ wget http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-source.jar $ jar -xf org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-sources.jar $ wget

Re: Suitable Names Search [WAS Re: Trademark Kill Searches...]

2011-11-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
+1 to the JIRA project and the notifications coming here. Thanks for driving this one! - Shane On 2011-11-17 6:55 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Robert Burrell

svn tags for releases? (was: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator)

2011-11-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: $ mkdir org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator $ cd org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator/ $ wget http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-source.jar $

Re: svn tags for releases? (was: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator)

2011-11-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: ...I agree with others that having an svn tag for that release would be much more convenient... oops sorry, wrong list - moving this thread to ace-...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 14:30, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2011 12:29, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what this has to do with the graduation vote. The release as such has been accepted by the incubator pmc and there only need to be one release. The

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Guillaume Nodet gno...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 14:30, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 November 2011 12:29, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what this has to do with the graduation vote. The release as such has been

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread sebb
On 17 November 2011 14:07, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: $ mkdir org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator $ cd org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator/ $ wget http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/org.apache.ace.client.automation-0.8.0-incubator-source.jar

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
Again, I'm not against doing things differently for future release (and the reason this release looks like it does is because that is configured like this in the apache-parent iirc). However, I'm still confused what all of this has to do with the graduation proposal vote and why this has to be on

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Karl, we can simply need to revert the changes just before the 0.8.0-incubator release. When upgrading the ACE build to use Maven, firstly, we used the tags scm with Maven sub-modules. So I'm quite sure that reverting just before the 0.8.0-incubator, I can prepare that for the next ACE

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
JB, please, lets move this to the ace-dev list. regards, Karl On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Hi Karl, we can simply need to revert the changes just before the 0.8.0-incubator release. When upgrading the ACE build to use Maven, firstly, we

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Sorry my mistake. Regards JB On 11/17/2011 04:27 PM, Karl Pauls wrote: JB, please, lets move this to the ace-dev list. regards, Karl On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofréj...@nanthrax.net wrote: Hi Karl, we can simply need to revert the changes just before the

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Big +1 Carsten 2011/11/17 Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl: In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers (12 in total now) from diverse

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
2011/11/17 Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com: Again, I'm not against doing things differently for future release (and the reason this release looks like it does is because that is configured like this in the apache-parent iirc). However, I'm still confused what all of this has to do with the

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I'm not against doing things differently for future release (and the reason this release looks like it does is because that is configured like this in the apache-parent iirc). However, I'm still confused what all of

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I'm not against doing things differently for future release (and the reason this release looks like it does is because that is configured like

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I'm not against doing things differently for future release (and the reason

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Karl Pauls
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, ant elder antel...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I'm

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Jun Rao
Sebb, Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are other Apache projects that release a single distribution with both source code and jars. For example, http://mirror.metrocast.net/apache//zookeeper/zookeeper-3.3.3/ . So, is source distribution strictly required?

Re: Suitable Names Search [WAS Re: Trademark Kill Searches...]

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: +1 to the JIRA project and the notifications coming here.  Thanks for driving this one! I've done some customisation on PODLINGNAMESEARCH[1] (Hopefully Noel will forgive me for assigning him as project lead without

[jira] [Created] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1) Establish whether Apache Rat is a suitable name

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (Created) (JIRA)
Establish whether Apache Rat is a suitable name - Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type:

[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1) Establish whether Apache Rat is a suitable name

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (Updated) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1: -- Evidence Of Open Source Adoption: ul liSearched for

[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1) Establish whether Apache Rat is a suitable name

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (Updated) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1: -- Evidence Of Open Source Adoption: Searched for Rat

[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1) Establish whether Apache Rat is a suitable name

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (Updated) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1: -- Evidence Of Open Source Adoption: Searched for Rat

[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1) Establish whether Apache Rat is a suitable name

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (Updated) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1: -- Evidence Of Open Source Adoption: Searched for Rat

[jira] [Commented] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1) Establish whether Apache Rat is a suitable name

2011-11-17 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13152195#comment-13152195 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1: ---

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Marcel Offermans
Hello Ant, On Nov 17, 2011, at 16:56 PM, ant elder wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I'm not against

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread sebb
On 17 November 2011 16:30, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Sebb, Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are other Apache projects that release a single distribution with both source code and jars. For example,

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 (binding) congrats! Cheers, Chris On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers (12 in total

[VOTE] Release Accumulo 1.3.5-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Billie J Rinaldi
Please vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Accumulo (incubating) version 1.3.5. This will be the first incubator release for Accumulo. This candidate has received 4 binding +1 votes (1 IPMC, 3 PPMC) and 1 non-binding +1 vote, with no -1 votes. We need 2 additional IPMC votes

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Kevan Miller
On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:10 PM, sebb wrote: On 17 November 2011 16:30, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote: Sebb, Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are other Apache projects that release a single distribution with both source code and jars. For example,

Re: [VOTE CLOSED] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator

2011-11-17 Thread David Crossley
Welcome. I have done the first steps as explained here [1] adding to the ReportingSchedule and a default entry to podlings.xml The latter still needs the project description and list of mentors. This is just to get things started, and also enables Clutch to help guide your project. No rush. [1]

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread David Crossley
sebb wrote: Jun Rao wrote: Sebb, Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are other Apache projects that release a single distribution with both source code and jars. For example, http://mirror.metrocast.net/apache//zookeeper/zookeeper-3.3.3/ . So, is I

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Kevan Miller
I took a look at the svn source and the binary artifact and have some additional comments. 1) Your svn contains a number of jar files. I don't believe that the LICENSE/NOTICE file properly reflects the license/notice requirements of these jar files. 2) Why are these jars being stored in your

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Chris Douglas
Thanks Sebb and Kevan. This is helpful. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Your svn contains a number of jar files. I don't believe that the LICENSE/NOTICE file properly reflects the license/notice requirements of these jar files. 2) Why are these

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread sebb
On 18 November 2011 02:17, Chris Douglas cdoug...@apache.org wrote: Thanks Sebb and Kevan. This is helpful. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Your svn contains a number of jar files. I don't believe that the LICENSE/NOTICE file properly reflects

Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2011-11-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: We are, however, recognizing that we've had growth issues of our own.  As David Crossley pointed out, he made mistakes last month related to the

Re: Latest copyright sign-off status [Was: Podlings needing copyright sign-off]

2011-11-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: snip 2009-02-09  kato I'm

Re: Latest copyright sign-off status [Was: Podlings needing copyright sign-off]

2011-11-17 Thread Henri Yandell
You should define 'very small' for Joao and work with legal-discuss and the Incubator PMC to decide if the item can be signed off or not. [me=bean counter who points to a field not being signed off :) ] Hen On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Jörn Kottmann kottm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, can