Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
(Apologies if you get this twice. I'm having email issues) Doug, The thread on members@ was titled Committer Qualifications. I asked a question about the -1 vote on 9/7/13 and the reply I got was that committer voting does not have vetoes, and the document at [1] also seems to say that. The

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 Regards JB On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. Any objections? On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its translated with The tremendousness. This

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-02 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
I like it! +1 JLouis 2013/10/2 Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net +1 Regards JB On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. Any objections? On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Nechtan sounds cool

Re: Shepherd assignments October 2013

2013-10-02 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Marvin Am 02.10.13 07:29, schrieb Marvin Humphrey: Greets, Please welcome new shepherds Andrei Savu and Raphael Bircher! We look forward to the fresh perspectives you bring. Thanks for the warm welcome! Greetings Raphael

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-02 Thread Mark Struberg
-1 for Merlin. Just too widely used :( There are 10++ pages of trademarks in all fields in trademarkia, many of them in the software area +1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for any software related product so far. LieGrue, strub - Original Message

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating

2013-10-02 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Hi sebb, the GIT hash of the release candidate is c66a4eb5743820c89fcf0446efab60a50965c6de . I will change the build process so it includes this hash in the vote e-mail. Greetings, Sebastian 2013/10/1 sebb seb...@gmail.com On 30 September 2013 11:17, Sebastian Schaffert

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating

2013-10-02 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 sources build fine. -- Olivier On Sep 30, 2013 8:17 PM, Sebastian Schaffert sschaff...@apache.org wrote: Dear all, After several months of work since the last incubating release (3.0.0-incubating) in April, we are now ready to release version 3.1.0-incubating. We fixed all the remaining

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator (revised proposal)

2013-10-02 Thread Dave
Thanks for all the votes, folks! I think our 72 hour voting period is almost over and I'll call and end to voting later today. One small note about minor changes to the proposal: - I changed Shaozhuang Liu affiliation because he will be contributing as an independent - I removed the Interested

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator (revised proposal)

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the votes, folks! I think our 72 hour voting period is almost over and I'll call and end to voting later today. Looking forward to the arrival of a promising new podling. :) One small note about minor changes to

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Doug Cutting
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: The thread on members@ was titled Committer Qualifications. I asked a question about the -1 vote on 9/7/13 and the reply I got was that committer voting does not have vetoes, and the document at [1] also seems to say that. I

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Doug, Sorry to be so picky, but my ultimate goal here is to save time for my project and all future graduating projects by avoiding as much thrashing on this kind of issue as possible. To me, agreeing on the norm is not the same as policy, especially policy that does not allow for exceptions.

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Doug Cutting
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: To me, agreeing on the norm is not the same as policy, especially policy that does not allow for exceptions. I agree. Establishing whether there is a norm is a useful first step. That's what I'm trying to take. Thus far I've

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/13 10:09 AM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: To me, agreeing on the norm is not the same as policy, especially policy that does not allow for exceptions. I agree. Establishing whether there is a norm is a

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Doug Cutting
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I'm not sure I understand the difference between consensus and unanimous consensus. Your thoughts? The difference seems to be the quorum requirement of 3 +1 votes in the case of consensus but not in unanimous consensus. They

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Alex Harui wrote: On 10/2/13 10:09 AM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: To me, agreeing on the norm is not the same as policy, especially policy that does not allow for exceptions. I

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 10/2/13 11:11 AM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Alex Harui wrote: On 10/2/13 10:09 AM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: In my tour of the internet since my last post and your reply, it does appear that most Apache-related information

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: It isn't out of date. It is just plain wrong. It does not reflect any of our projects, but rather presents an incomplete summary based on someone's personal experience. It is difficult to do better than that without

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I would like to propose a rewrite of [1] by borrowing heavily from [2] but making sure to emphasize that projects are allowed to have different rules for all of them (or is the code-commit veto required for all projects). Any

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I would like to propose a rewrite of [1] by borrowing heavily from [2] but making sure to emphasize that projects are allowed to have different

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread sebb
On 2 October 2013 21:34, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I would like to propose a rewrite of [1] by borrowing heavily from [2] but

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: That's a really interesting perspective: governance rules as code, that can be unit tested. Heh I like that. And how does one test that code is working correctly? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyc 30 years and going strong! Thanks,

[ANNOUNCE] Christian Müller joins the IPMC

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Apache Member and Apache Camel PMC Chair Christian Müller has joined the Incubator PMC. Welcome! Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Welcome to the Incubator, Storm community!

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
(cross-posted to dev@storm.incubator and general@incubator) Greetings, Storm community! For those of you who are new to the Incubator or to the Apache Software Foundation, here's a short list to help you get oriented: * See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhatToExpect for a practical

[VOTE] Retire the Tashi podling

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greets, As discussed previously on general@incubator[1], the Tashi community has voted to retire from the Incubator. Following the retirement guide[2], it is now time for an IPMC vote ratifying their decision. [ ] +1 Retire the Tashi podling [ ] +0 Neither here nor there [ ] -1 Do not retire

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator (revised proposal)

2013-10-02 Thread Lewis John Mcgibbney
Hi All, +1 On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM, general-digest-h...@incubator.apache.orgwrote: On 09/30/2013 09:27 PM, Dave wrote: I would like to call for a new vote on Usergrid, a multi-tenant Backend-as-a-Service stack for web mobile applications based on RESTful APIs, as an Apache

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Christian Müller joins the IPMC

2013-10-02 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
Congrats Christian. Jean Louis Le 3 oct. 2013 01:20, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com a écrit : Apache Member and Apache Camel PMC Chair Christian Müller has joined the Incubator PMC. Welcome! Marvin Humphrey - To