Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

Hi - I think that the model is a good measure and the development of it was an excellent example of the group dynamic in using a wiki. It is a list of best practices. If a podling goes through the process then we ought to treat it as a fair effort. I think that it would be worth applying a

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Hi - Comdev recently updated QU30 to make sure that security issues are handled on a secure and private basis. The PPMC needs to change the answer to QU30 as JIRA is not a secure process. Regards, Dave > On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:00 AM, Von Gosling wrote: > > Hi, > > Of

Re: [VOTE] Daffodil into the Apache Incubator

Sorry, I've been distracted. +1. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2017, at 12:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Steve Lawrence > wrote: >> ...I would like >> to start a VOTE to

Re: [DRAFT] Incubator PMC Board Report - August 2017

016-12-18 > > Signed-off-by: > > [ ](batchee) Jean-Baptiste Onofré > Comments: > [X](batchee) Olivier Lamy > Comments: > [X](batchee) Mark Struberg > Comments: I think we should graduate indeed. > It seems we had some confusion with the LDAP w

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

. Ament wrote: >> > You can also count me in as a mentor. >> > >> > John >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:14 PM Steve Lawrence >> > <stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Understood. Thanks for

Re: [VOTE] Apache Pulsar 1.19.0-incubating Release Candidate 0

Hello IPMC - I voted on the podling vote thread with an IPMC (binding) +1. At least one other mentor is reviewing the release as well. If you have a chance please take a look. Regards, Dave > On Aug 3, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Matteo Merli wrote: > > This is the first release

Re: Removing Fluo from podling reporting schedule

Hi - I am not sure how to modify the podling report reminders. I think you will need to wait for John. The Board accepted your resolution. You are a TLP and the Incubator no longer needs your report. Regards, Dave > On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Christopher wrote: > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

h.D. >>Principal Research Scientist, Adjunct Assistant Professor of Computer >> Science >>Deputy Director of the Scientific Software & Applications Division >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications, University of Illinois >> at Urbana-Champ

Re: [DISCUSS] Podlings & Gitbox Usage

Hi - Pulsar has been using this and I am +1. I do have some community related observations that are worth mentioning. (1) Pulsar is directing all of GitHub activity in both the code repository and the git wiki to the dev list. This content does serve as both the main view to see what is going

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

Hi Kenton, Is there any reason that you and others from the NCSA are not Initial Committers? That would make this proposal stronger. Regarding Apache Tika - it relies on other projects including Apache POI and Apache PDFBox. They are pragmatic about what is used. If Daffodil works to expand

Re: Question about Status Updates for Podlings in Whimsy

Hi John, > On Jul 18, 2017, at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> I am looking at https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/pulsar

Question about Status Updates for Podlings in Whimsy

Hi John, I am looking at https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/pulsar and I wanted to make updates to reflect the podling's status. How would I make changes to the Resources and Licensing sections? Specifically Pulsar is using Github for Issues and Wiki. Also the Software grant was filed with

Re: [VOTE] Recommend Apache Fluo graduation as TLP to Board

+1 (binding) > On Jul 10, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Christopher wrote: > > Hello IPMC, > > The recent DISCUSS thread on the topic of Fluo's graduation has been open > for at least 72 hours, and I believe all questions have been answered and > issues addressed at this point. > >

Re: [VOTE] Retire HORN

+1. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2017, at 5:53 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > All, > > After a few discussions on list, its been agreed to retire the HORN > podling. > > - The podling recently voted to retire [1] > - Back in April I asked for their status, where a

Re: [DISCUSS] Gradute Streams as TLP

. There was no email thread on the topic, so using the definition > that decisions must be made on the list, this wasn’t a group decision, it was > an action by me. > > Sorry for the confusion. > > Steve > On July 5, 2017 at 2:45:50 PM, Dave Fisher (dave2w...@comcast.net > &l

Re: [DISCUSS] Gradute Streams as TLP

Hi Steve, Where was that decision made? I don’t see that recently in Pony Mail archives. I don’t see anything wrong with decision I just don’t see any record of it. Please let us know when it was made and how it was recorded. Regards, Dave > On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:33 PM, sblackmon

Re: [DISCUSS] Fluo graduation as TLP

Hi - Top posting. These are all excellent reasons to remain separate. Best Regards, Dave > On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:52 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hi Josh

Re: [DISCUSS] Fluo graduation as TLP

Hi Josh, I have some questions: > On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Josh Elser wrote: > > As a mentor, I consciously avoided an explicit "+1" until we got some IPMC > discussion. Let me expand: > > The current members of Fluo are great, get the Apache Way, and are >

Re: Edit Access to the Wiki

rly bracketed, so it wouldn't have worked. I can fix that one if you > want, or just ignore it. > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:13 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hi - >> >> I lost track of my prior MoinMoin Wiki account and created a new

Edit Access to the Wiki

Hi - I lost track of my prior MoinMoin Wiki account and created a new one. Please grant DavidFisher access to Edit the Incubator Wiki. (My old one seems to be named "c-67-180-51-144” in the logs.) Thanks and Regards, Dave signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: [DRAFT] What the new Status Pages potentially look like

Hi John - These are excellent questions. I see each of these as being tuples of various kinds. For example :sga: could have multiple grants each of which has a date and a file name to refer to in the foundation records. The path to the source repository is missing completely. Some of these

Re: Looking for a Champion and mentor

Hi Arun, Your project is quite small at the moment and only you have committed. I agree with you that this code looks more like a Commons subproject. You should reach out to the Commons developer ML - d...@commons.apache.org This is still a good place to ask as others may know of other places

Re: [VOTE] Merge DistributedLog as the subproject of Apache BookKeeper

Hi - I am adding the Pulsar Dev list so that podling can be certainly aware. (I know that there are BookKeeper dev involved in Pulsar. Please drop general@ off for any further discussions from the Pulsar side. Regards, Dave > On Jun 8, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Sijie Guo wrote: >

Re: Thanks for the Talks on YouTube

Make it so! Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2017, at 5:23 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > > A prior talk from Jukka sits at the top of the incubator's landing page > [1]. Not to shamelessly self promote, but would it make sense to include > newer talks? > > [1]:

Re: [VOTE] Pulsar into the Apache Incubator

+1 (binding) Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 10:39 PM, Bryan Call wrote: > > Hi All, > > As the champion for Pulsar, I would like to start a VOTE to bring the > project in as Apache incubator podling. > > The ASF voting rules are described: > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

Hi All - That's 2 mentors. Is there a third? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > > To be clear, yes, I would. > >> On May 5, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

Hi - Anyone else interested in mentoring? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi - > > I had a discussion with Joe and another gentleman involved in Pulsar. > > They asked how long i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

that will not be wholly dependent on Yahoo. End result - I am willing to sign up as a Mentor for Pulsar. Regards, Dave > On Apr 28, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi John, > > I am trying to decide if I personally wish to mentor Pulsar

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

s. > > John > >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:17 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Hi - >> >> I am in California and could do a webex this Monday. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

Hi - I am in California and could do a webex this Monday. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2017, at 1:41 AM, Jochen Theodorou wrote: > > > >> On 26.04.2017 23:19, Joe Francis wrote: >> >> Dear Apache Incubator Community, >> >> >> We would like to submit

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pulsar - proposal for Apache Incubation

Hi, Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2017, at 7:29 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > > Joe, > > Its customary to bring in the entire body of the proposal in the discussion > thread. > > Its good to see that someone stepped up to be Champion. You still need > mentors. Was

Re: View archive on podling private@ list

You must be on the PPMC(podling), a Mentor, or an Apache Member for private ML access. Mentors should be helping podlings with these tasks. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2017, at 7:02 PM, sospartan wrote: > > Yes, that the RESULT I need. Thank you. >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Metron podling Graduation

+1 (binding) > On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Josh Elser wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > Casey Stella wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I propose that we graduate Apache Metron (incubating) from the incubator. >> The full text of the proposal is below, with requisite modifications >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

know that some of these people are > contributing to Metron in their spare time as independent open source > contributions. > > > Best, > > Casey > >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> S

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

n source projects. > I see no concerns with Metron graduating. Sure, but the question is not about whether or not HortonWorks understands the Apache Way. It is what happens to Metron if HortonWorks is no longer interested in the project? Given the experience with OpenOffice I think we

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

This is a list of 24 of which 12 are Hortonworks. Can we assume that the other 12 of which 6 are PPMC are unaffiliated? What percentage of the commits are coming from Hortonworks affiliated contributors? Thanks, Dave > On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Casey Stella wrote: > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Metron podling Graduation

This is not a VOTE thread. There is a misstatement to clear up. What part of the maturity model is ongoing? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 23, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > +1 (binding) > >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Casey Stella

Re: Creating a podli...@incubator.apache.org mailing list

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > +1 for a podlings@ alias. > > But what could you possibly want with a podlings-private@ ? We are > expected to keep private to a minimum, typically involving individuals or > security issues, and I fail to see how

Re: Ease of release process and exit criteria

I know of a podling like that where the release manager gave me push back until I told him I could not vote +1 without build instructions I could at least follow on my own local. That was some years ago. The podling graduated. The instructions were not updated. The RM left. Now there is a

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

The qt discussion was a community process during incubation. It was not known in advance. This process Marvin describes would not have caught the issue. The community wanted to find a way more slowly and focus on code efforts. When asked to help slow the discussion someone heated it up instead.

Re: DRAFT report December 2015 -- please review

Inline Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Marvin Humphrey >> wrote: >> >> >> Corinthia >> >> Corinthia is a toolkit/application for converting

Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...)

I see the essence of what it means to be a committer. Being trusted to both do the correct action and be willing to listen objectively to criticism. In an CTR project it is clear to me that the point where a project grants Committership should be the point where the PMC wants to treat an

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

ng in the Attic. These aren't Apache >> projects until graduation, so don't really belong. I can see releases >> strengthening the argument for archival. >> >> Henri should be able to clarify. >> >> Cheers, >> -g >>> On Sep 5, 2015 3:35

Re: [NOTICE] corinthia PPMC+committer -= dortef, franz, gbg, ianc, jani, louis, pmkelly

Hi Marvin, Very true. I am sorry that we did not come to the IPMC sooner. Perhaps after my second attempt to cool things. Maybe a mentor should use frustration to determine when ask for help. Maybe it should not be private@. What if there was a mentor@ private ML explicitly for this help?

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The Attic is for Apache projects. Podlings are simply retired/removed. >> On Sep 4, 2015 9:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> &g

Re: ODF Toolkit may need help

Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:12 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > Hi Rob, >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:56 AM Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I'd like to

Re: apache binary distributions

private list. Alternatively, take them privately to the trademarks@ a.o list and also get clarification on what qualifies as trademark abuse. Please. This is not the place for such allegations. -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday

Re: apache binary distributions

? PPS: I assume we are talking about something other than how third parties use and attribute ALv2 licensed code one way or another. I'm not certain how trademark enters there. There is related discussion on legal-discuss, however. -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher

Re: apache binary distributions

Again mixed. Let's substitute a real case. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2015, at 6:21 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: (Please note mixed private/public lists) On 8/25/15 5:17 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: So there is - to my mind - the obvious stuff: 1. The package

Re: apache binary distributions

from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Our trademark is abused by LibreOffice. Change this to misused in Linux distributions. How do we find a policy where can get Linux distributions near compliance. Since LO rebased and declared a new

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

We need to report that NPanday is being retired. On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote: On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final resolution summary. Nevermind, got thrown off

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

+1 (binding) On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is the only viable path at this point:

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Perhaps there are one or two good ideas in the proposals, but change does not need to be as jarring. I hope that the Incubator can make the best of those

Re: [Proposal] TinkerPop: A Graph Computing Framework [RE-SUBMISSION]

On Jan 9, 2015, at 11:18 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: On 10 Jan 2015, at 6:18 am, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: This still only has 3 committers. How is the project going to function with such a small group? I don't see that there has been a realistic answer to this

Re: proposal: mentor re-boot

On Jan 9, 2015, at 1:35 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: ...I think the IPMC is doing almost all of the above better. Everything except for Failed. I think that now we are blaming the mentor. Let's get over it. Not every

Re: proposal: mentor re-boot

Hi - We could better spend our energy looking at podlings with Mentor problems and deciding which of three possible states fits the podling. - Failed - no community is trully involved and there is nothing an active mentor could do. Let's just admit it and retire the podling. - Needs Help - a

Re: Podlings should be in charge of their mentors (was: Incubator report sign-off)

Hi Jan, On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:18 PM, jan i wrote: On 5 January 2015 at 20:06, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:26 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On Monday, January 5, 2015, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Rolling shepherds?

of it. I would say the following shepherds did not provide due diligence during this month's report: - Andrei Savu * - Dave Fisher - Matthew Franklin - Raphael Bircher The following shepherds either did not provide, or did provide but saw no issues to comment on within their podlings

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache DeviceMap from the incubator

Decloaking and voting +1. This project is similar in size to Etch. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: I've checked logs, looked at mail archives and followed the discussion. The community is indeed small, but it is

Re: Mentors heartbeat

Hi - I've been too busy to do more than lurk occasionally. Consequently I am not mentoring and not shepherding lately. I do want to add something to this debate. PMCs write their board reports to the board in whatever way they want. The Incubator is about teaching PPMCs how to become PMCs. We

Re: [VOTE] Retire the S4 podling

+1, binding. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: Hi all, Per recent discussions on general@[1] and s4-dev@ [2], I went ahead and called for a VOTE on the S4 dev@

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Olingo from the Incubator

of the Apache Olingo Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Olingo Project: * Florian Mueller f...@apache.org * Dave Fisher

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

On Mar 12, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi - Small nonblocking issues with this release candidate: (1) The source should not include the KEYS file. OK. Hopefully you saw that we also have the file

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

Hi - Small nonblocking issues with this release candidate: (1) The source should not include the KEYS file. (2) I have trouble with the build so I could not judge the build. A maven 3 build would be nice and it is beiung discussed by the podling. (3) I ran manual rat scans using Apache RAT

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

Hello - If someone from the IPMC would look at this release candidate it would be appreciated. (Sorry, but I have not found time myself.) Thanks, Dave On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Rob Weir wrote: We've had a vote within the PPMC which passed:

Re: Shepherding February 2014

Sorry my limited Apache time was taken yesterday by catching up cadence issues. I checked DataFu and it is getting started in fine shape. The mentors are doing a fine job. I checked Hadoop Development Tools and there is some concern. Development is either stalled since November when

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Olingo 1.1.0 incubating (RC03)

Your wayward mentor agrees. Sorry I have lacked time to review this release. Regards, Dave On Feb 10, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Klevenz, Stephan wrote: Thanks :-) Discussion about graduation will start soon... Stephan On 10.02.14 10:36, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: Also, why

Re: Hoya Proposal

On Jan 13, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: On 9 January 2014 21:55, Enis Söztutar enis@gmail.com wrote: Proposal looks good. Let me know if you need any additional help in mentors. Enis +1 -I'd really like input from the HBase and Accumulo teams as they are the first

[CELIX] Re: January 2014 Incubator report timeline

. To me it is the ability to get three proper +1 VOTEs on releases. Anyway - go CELIX! Let's see if 2014 is a magical year. Regards, Dave On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Dec 25, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: January 2014 Incubator report timeline: http

Re: January 2014 Incubator report timeline

On Dec 25, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: January 2014 Incubator report timeline: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2014 FYI - Helix has graduated so I have removed it from the report. Regards, Dave Wed January 01 -- Podling reports due by end of day Sun

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

I guess Marvin can't count to the fourth Dave. I also voted +1. Between Ant's and Chip's votes. On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: [ ] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment. [ ] -1

Re: [VOTE] Enable Release Checklist Experiment

[X] +1 Yes, apply the patch enabling the experiment. I kinda feel it doesn't need the Policy change and at this point it should be the 2014 ... but hey - still a positive vote. Regards, Dave On Dec 13, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Greetings, As the next step in our ongoing

Re: Release Verification Checklist

On Dec 12, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Marvin, On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: I also went another round on the Manifest template and the Release Procedure section of the guide (not yet committed):

Re: Release Verification Checklist

On Dec 6, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/votes/$PODLING/$RC

Re: Release vote thresholds

On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I am only comfortable allowing singular IPMC votes from members of the ASF. I think the IPMC owes this much to the other members of the Foundation. I've now

Re: Release Verification Checklist

On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, sebb wrote: ... But it is much harder to update an SVN document compared with replying to an e-mail. Someone running the VOTE would

Re: Release Verification Checklist

There is a small negative to this process. How do non-committers VOTE on releases? This doesn't make me negative, but we ought to have an explanation. On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Which

Re: Release Verification Checklist

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:17 AM, sebb wrote: On 2 December 2013 13:52, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: ...In response to Bertrand's proposal at http://s.apache.org/awz, I've created a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Experiment: VXQuery PPMC Release Voting

Hi, Apologies for returning to this after one week, but I have been on vacation. I am not against this experiment in general, especially after Bertrand's later clarification. I am against the experiment in VXQuery's case because Till has already been made an IPMC member under the prior

Re: Release vote thresholds

On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I am not sure that this is a step in the correct direction. Dave, I'm sure you

Re: Release Verification Checklist

Marvin, I applaud your efforts here. If we are going to take PPMC release votes as binding then we should be sure that these are up to standards. Even if we don't this is still very valuable. One note I have is I don't think we should be teaching that some of release steps are optional when

Re: Release Verification Checklist

On Dec 1, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: One note I have is I don't think we should be teaching that some of release steps are optional when they are required. Don't get me wrong -- I would actually prefer

Re: Release vote thresholds

and Dave Fisher. The remaining question is whether we can arrive at an agreement in terms of how many IPMC votes it takes to get a release approved. Ant, you proposed a minimum of one IPMC vote for each release: http://s.apache.org/CHS How about simply changing the rules

[DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Knox-0.3.1-incubating RC3

How many +1 IPMC Binding Votes did you have from your Mentors? Putting this information clearly in the thread is very helpful. Regards, Dave On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:09 AM, larry mccay wrote: Hello All, This is a call for a vote on Apache Knox Gateway 0.3.1 incubating. A vote was held on

Re: [PROPOSAL] Experiment: VXQuery PPMC Release Voting

So we vote to make Till an IPMC member and then we have a proposal to allow VXQuery to have a non-Apache Member cast the only IPMC binding VOTE on a release. Sorry, but that is one step too many. Here is my proposal - see if invoking the old experiment (making a pdling PPMC member into an IPMC

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

Hi Alex, I like where you are going with this, but I think that rather than invent a new role within the ASF we might actually be on the track to how we make the IPMC more like a normal PMC. What you are calling IP Auditors is really one example of Incubator Committer - there are two kinds of

Re: Populating the initial PPMC

Dislike. For small projects, PPMC == Committers is a great starting point. For huge projects like OpenOffice something like this would have been chaos unleashed. If it were 3 or 4 then I would not have volunteered to be a Mentor for Apache Flex. To me the answer should remain somewhere

Re: Shepherding November 2013

Hi - Apologies for not getting around to it. I've been on the road and work continues to be a grind. Aurora is starting out and Open Climate Workbench looks fine - graduation soon? That was my initial look at the start, and then oops time's up. Regards, Dave On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM,

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

I don't think this is prudent, having only one binding vote is too low a check. We at the ASF have a responsibility to the public. I want to be certain that no one steam rolls the process. Just the fact that there are edge cases means we need to be careful. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 7 November 2013 11:20, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The Incubator has a fundamental structural

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Till Westmann wrote: Hi Dave, On Oct 11, 2013, at 6:08 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:03 AM, ant elder wrote: Vinayak, the release does not need to be redone yet. If it really looks like this will hold up getting

Re: Project reboot proposals - any guidance?

Hi Nick, I did a somewhat cursory review of the 10 years of emails in the XML Beans archives and have some definite ideas about governance. I don't think that they are for discussion yet - it will be up to the podling community. Regards, Dave On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Nick Burch wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

HI Ant, On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:03 AM, ant elder wrote: Dave/Vinayak, My understanding is that the ODC-BY license only needs to be run by ASF legal if there is a concern about it, I've read the license when voting on this and AFAICT its fine (and the package is not being modified so it could

Re: [VOTE] Apache Sirona as an incubated project

+1 (binding) On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: Hi, Since discussion about the Sirona seems done, I'd like to call a vote for Sirona to become an incubated project. The proposal is pasted below, and also available at: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal Let's

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

Hi - I checked the source release and the signatures check out. Before I can VOTE I have questions. (1) What is the following file? A apache-vxquery-0.2-incubating/vxquery-core/src/test/resources/documents/dblp.xml.gz Am I correct that this shows up in your LICENSE as:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

You have two IPMC votes. You need one more IPMC vote to pass. On Oct 8, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Vinayak Borkar wrote: Dear general@, A few weeks ago, there were concerns raised about the VXQuery project's ability to make releases. We now have an RC that has been voted for by the PPMC and is

Re: Too many late reports

On Oct 6, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Dave Fisher DeviceMap Dave Fisher Spark Although there are no reports yet. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank

Re: Shepherd assignments October 2013

://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2013 Raphael Bircher Olingo Alan Cabrera Celix Alan Cabrera VXQuery Dave Fisher DeviceMap Dave Fisher Spark Although there are no reports yet. These projects both look healthy with active development. DeviceMap looks like

Process for Granting Jenkins Access

A Mentoring question. Some of the committers in a podling want to access Jenkins. The instructions are here: http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins#How_do_I_get_an_account I take it that for a podling any of the mentors should take the role of the PMC Chair and do this action. Please let me

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

On Sep 24, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: ...So fill the bus with anybody who volunteers? That does not sound meritocratic It's been like that for a while in the Incubator, people who sign up as

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